Dtruthspeaker:


Whose independence?
Answer: ours.

Hence the independent proof of God is in the fact that no man or thing in this world ever created itself as is seen.

Wrong. Many things come about without orchestration by any sentient being so you failed. Try again.

Templee333:
FALSE IDEA #21
Some people think that if they cut grass and sweep a church environment, GOD will bless them more than HE would if they had perform the same service in their neighbour's resident.

You are speaking from the viewpoint of the Abrahamic gods.
There are several other religions that don't view their gods from the above mentioned lens of eyes.
So when you use the word "god", be very careful. There are several gods in the heads of the religionists of which Allah and yhwh both don't amount to 0.5%

LordReed:


Wrong. Many things come about without orchestration by any sentient being so you failed. Try again.

I did not say orchestration twisty twisty, I said no man or thing in this world ever created itself.

Not even Satan can argue against it. No Road!

Dtruthspeaker:


I did not say orchestration twisty twisty, I said no man or thing in this world ever created itself.

Not even Satan can argue against it. No Road!

I don't have to use the word "created" to describe something that wasn't created.

I have already disproved your nonsense from the root so there is indeed no argument. LoLz.

LordReed:


I don't have to use the word "created" to describe something that wasn't created.

I have already disproved your nonsense from the root so there is indeed no argument. LoLz.

You prove you had nothing to say for orchestration is not the same as creation and clearly you dodged it because it is impossible to argue against it.

Your twisting can never work. No Road

Dtruthspeaker:


You prove you had nothing to say for orchestration is not the same as creation and clearly you dodged it because it is impossible to argue against it.

Your twisting can never work. No Road

LoLz. They are not created so you have no argument.

LordReed:


LoLz. They are not created so you have no argument.

Hahahahaha! Now that your orchestration twisting no work and you no fit talk again, you don kon shift post go "they are not created". See Confusion! hahahahaha. No Road! Loser Hahahahahahaha

Dtruthspeaker:


Hahahahaha! Now that your orchestration twisting no work and you no fit talk again, you don kon shift post go "they are not created". See Confusion! hahahahaha. No Road! Loser Hahahahahahaha

You don't understand English so I don't blame you, lemme spell it out for you. They are not created because their orchestration doesn't require sentient involvement. Which utterly destroys your argument since we can see things come into being without any person making it.

FALSE IDEA #22 GOD loves human more than every other things that exist.

FALSE IDEA 23 GOD wants us to worship him.

Templee333:
FALSE IDEA 23
GOD wants us to worship him.

And these ideas are false because God told you they are false or because you decided for God that they are false or someone else told you they are false?

tctrills:

And these ideas are false because God told you they are false or because you decided for God that they are false or someone else told you they are false?

it's all your choice whether to take what we say or not. You are free to your idea/opinion/belief. We cannot force our experiences on others.

Templee333:
it's all your choice whether to take what we say or not. You are free to your idea/opinion/belief. We cannot force our experiences on others.

Oga, that has never been the issue. We know it's my choice to make but then it's not out of place to ask the source of your information.
Wouldn't you advise your kids to verify the source of any information before accepting it?
I believe if you really know what you are teaching, you should be happy to let others know your source.
Anyway that's just what I think.

@tctrills
I'll like to say that i don't really know what i'm teaching. As for the source of my information, i agree that i don't know,tho, u can help me. Please just answer: who taught u to breath thru ur nostrils? Who informed u to fart thru your anus? Among all the holes in a woman body,y did u choose to be birthed thru the one b/w her tights? Who taught u how to sneeze? Who taught u to close ur eyes when sleeping? How did you learn to make tears come out from ur eyes when crying? Who taught you how to make ur heart beat endlessly? I'm sorry to put all these questions to you, but i feel that if u can give an answer to them, then, u already have an answer to the question asked me.

Templee333:
@tctrills
I'll like to say that i don't really know what i'm teaching. As for the source of my information, i agree that i don't know,tho, u can help me. Please just answer: who taught u to breath thru ur nostrils? Who informed u to fart thru your anus? Among all the holes in a woman body,y did u choose to be birthed thru the one b/w her tights? Who taught u how to sneeze? Who taught u to close ur eyes when sleeping? How did you learn to make tears come out from ur eyes when crying? Who taught you how to make ur heart beat endlessly? I'm sorry to put all these questions to you, but i feel that if u can give an answer to them, then, u already have an answer to the question asked me.

Good let's discuss
I get you are trying to be smart and to equate some of these activities you wrote above to your personal interpretation of who and what God is. But being smart does not make you correct. In fact it's just a deflection.
So to the answer to your question, these activities you mentioned are learnt via human instincts.
For a definition, human instincts are tendencies that humans have innately, without having to learn them. These inclinations guide our behavior in a variety of situations, often without our realizing it.
So you mentioned a few human activities that are learnt by natural instincts but it is totally deceptive to compare these knowledge to your knowledge about who God is and here are some simple reasons why.
1. It would be foolish and unnecessary to create a post about how to shed tears when crying or how to breathe from the nostrils because we all get it. That's why it's called natural or human instincts. The fact that you needed to create a post explaining your understanding of God shows that is was not a knowledge obtained via your instincts.
2. All the activities you mentioned above are universal. Most normal and healthy humans are capable them. On the other hand, your complicated views about God are not universal hence we can't classified as such.
3. Thirdly your ideas are prone to change. You have not always believed in these ideas so what would you say is responsible for all other believe systems that don't align with your present ideas. Again, as your ideas and beliefs continue to change and refine would you also call that natural instincts?

tctrills:


Good let's discuss
I get you are trying to be smart and to equate some of these activities you wrote above to your personal interpretation of who and what God is. But being smart does not make you correct. In fact it's just a deflection.
So to the answer to your question, these activities you mentioned are learnt via human instincts.
For a definition, human instincts are tendencies that humans have innately, without having to learn them. These inclinations guide our behavior in a variety of situations, often without our realizing it.
So you mentioned a few human activities that are learnt by natural instincts but it is totally deceptive to compare these knowledge to your knowledge about who God is and here are some simple reasons why.
1. It would be foolish and unnecessary to create a post about how to shed tears when crying or how to breathe from the nostrils because we all get

thanks. All is well.

FALSE IDEA #24 some people say that GOD can be provoked either by their words or action.

FALSE IDEA #24 Some people say that they can love GOD while still hating their fellow man.

Templee333:
thanks. All is well.

You welcome.
I love the fact that you humbled yourself and admitted that you don't know what you were talking about.
But then it's not late to start learning searching and asking.
It's not late to make an effort to learn. Only then should you write a post about people's false notions about God, only then.
For now, seek the path of a student not a teacher.

FALSE IDEA #25 Some people say that they can invoke GOD to kill their enemy.

FALSE IDEA #26 Some people say that GOD created them to come and make money on earth.

FALSE IDEA #26 Some people go to a "man of GOD" to pray for them.

FALSE IDEA #26 Some people spend their resources building places for the worship of GOD.

FALSE IDEA #27
If nobody sees me during the act, I'm free from punishment because GOD is merciful.

FALSE IDEA #28 We know and worship GOD more than our ancestors.