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Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 6:49pm On Nov 23, 2023
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you

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Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by immortalcrown(m): 6:50pm On Nov 23, 2023
First of all, define religion.

Kepukepu:
According to Oxford Dictionary: noun. /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Idioms. [uncountable] the belief in the existence of a god or gods, and the activities that are connected with the worship of them, or in the teachings of a spiritual leader. Do you have a different definition?
The definition is correct but your post is totally wrong. What you should simply say is that the majority of Africans abuse religion. Religion requires deep thinking. To prove to you that you are wrong, doesn't religion exist in the Western world and other continents? Religion exists in those places but the madness that happen in Africa in the name of religion does not happen in those other countries.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kobojunkie: 6:57pm On Nov 23, 2023
Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them. This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs. This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you
What you said there, depending on the meaning you apply to the term religion ,may turn out to be nothing but bullsheet! undecided

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Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Iamanoited: 7:26pm On Nov 23, 2023
RELIGION IS THINKING, REASONING, FEELING, COMMUNING , PHILOSOPHY , OMNISCIENT, LOGIC, LAW AND EVERYTHING.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LikeAking: 7:53pm On Nov 23, 2023
Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you


Correct!
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LikeAking: 7:53pm On Nov 23, 2023
Iamanoited:
RELIGION IS THINKING, REASONING, FEELING, COMMUNING , PHILOSOPHY , OMNISCIENT, LOGIC, LAW AND EVERYTHING.

According to Robert Mugabe. 1953
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 8:45pm On Nov 23, 2023
immortalcrown:
First of all, define religion.
According to Oxford Dictionary: noun. /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Idioms. [uncountable] the belief in the existence of a god or gods, and the activities that are connected with the worship of them, or in the teachings of a spiritual leader.

Do you have a different definition?
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 8:45pm On Nov 23, 2023
Iamanoited:
RELIGION IS THINKING, REASONING, FEELING, COMMUNING , PHILOSOPHY , OMNISCIENT, LOGIC, LAW AND EVERYTHING.
What is the logic behind conception without fertilization in humans?
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 8:49am On Nov 24, 2023
Kepukepu:


This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us.



I disagree with this statement. Religion attracts all sorts including brilliant minds. What is appealing about religion has nothing to do with what level of mental acuity you possess/exercise.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 1:09pm On Nov 24, 2023
LordReed:


I disagree with this statement. Religion attracts all sorts including brilliant minds. What is appealing about religion has nothing to do with what level of mental acuity you possess/exercise.
On the average, religious people are more intuitive and less critical thinkers than irreligious people. There's a difference being brilliant and being a critical thinker. Religion with evidence hinders critical thinking and attracts the less thinkers (on thr average)
There are literally several Pew research on this.

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Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 1:21pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kepukepu:
On the average, religious people are more intuitive and less critical thinkers than irreligious people. There's a difference being brilliant and being a critical thinker. Religion with evidence hinders critical thinking and attracts the less thinkers (on thr average)
There are literally several Pew research on this.

Good so we agree that it is not the level of mental acuity that is deficient amongst the religious.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 2:31pm On Nov 24, 2023
LordReed:


Good so we agree that it is not the level of mental acuity that is deficient amongst the religious.
yes but ability to use their level of mental acuity.
They don't use it too often
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:14pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kepukepu:
What is the logic behind conception without fertilization in humans?

The same as making a car to run on electricity or water instead of fuel. That is the power of a Creator.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:16pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you


Rubbish! Christianity always had Law and Logic in it.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:32pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kepukepu:
According to Oxford Dictionary: noun. /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Idioms. [uncountable] the belief in the existence of a god or gods, and the activities that are connected with the worship of them, or in the teachings of a spiritual leader.

Do you have a different definition?

Yes.

"religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 11:34pm On Nov 24, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Rubbish! Christianity always had Law and Logic in it.

Really? What is the logic in "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others?

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Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:35pm On Nov 24, 2023
LikeAking:


Correct!


What else would Satan like you say before?
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:38pm On Nov 24, 2023
LordReed:


Really? What is the logic in "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others?

Simply, its a clean thing we use for wiping a dirty thing
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 12:04am On Nov 25, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Simply, its a clean thing we use for wiping a dirty thing

Ahhh, great so let's wipe some dirt by killing newborn babies.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:07am On Nov 25, 2023
LordReed:


Ahhh, great so let's wipe some dirt by killing newborn babies.

Clearly, illogical and you are proving how illogical atheists are. Not to talk of the fallacy of unreasonable over extension.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 12:20am On Nov 25, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Clearly, illogical and you are proving how illogical atheists are. Not to talk of the fallacy of unreasonable over extension.


Then you are also illogical, it's that simple. LoLz.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:27am On Nov 25, 2023
LordReed:


Then you are also illogical, it's that simple. LoLz.

Tu quqoe does not work. If I was illogical you would have pointed it out immediately but because you couldn't you resorted to the fallacy of unreasonable over extension and stretching. E no work.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:14am On Nov 25, 2023
Kepukepu:

Religion does not like critical thinking.

This is a LIE!

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Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 5:35am On Nov 25, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Tu quqoe does not work. If I was illogical you would have pointed it out immediately but because you couldn't you resorted to the fallacy of unreasonable over extension and stretching. E no work.

First off there no such fallacy. Second I did point out your illogicality by holding up a mirror to you and you immediately recognised the image. LoLz.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:55am On Nov 25, 2023
LordReed:


First off there no such fallacy. Second I did point out your illogicality by holding up a mirror to you and you immediately recognised the image. LoLz.

First. there are. They are called Reductio ad absurdum" and "fallacy of extended analogy".

Secondly, these fallacies made your response illogical.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 8:59am On Nov 25, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


First. there are. They are called Reductio ad absurdum" and "fallacy of extended analogy".

Secondly, these fallacies made your response illogical.


They don't apply. My statement was exactly the same as the question I posed to you, kill an innocent for the guilty and you recognised the illogicality of such nonsense when you saw your own reflection. LoLz.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 9:50am On Nov 25, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


The same as making a car to run on electricity or water instead of fuel. That is the power of a Creator.
lol grin
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by paxonel(m): 10:00am On Nov 25, 2023
Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you

are the religious tenets afraid of being questioned?

Because, me i believe.
And critical thinking and logic have helped convinced me to believe.
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Kepukepu: 10:35am On Nov 25, 2023
paxonel:
are the religious tenets afraid of being questioned?

Because, me i believe.
And critical thinking and logic have helped convinced me to believe.
Religion is based upon dogma - therefore one is encouraged to have faith in the unexaminable.

“Faith”, by definition, is the acceptance of a concept in the face of conflicting evidence or no evidence at all.”

Does that sound like “critical thinking” to you?
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by Dtruthspeaker: 10:41am On Nov 25, 2023
LordReed:


They don't apply. My statement was exactly the same as the question I posed to you, kill an innocent for the guilty and you recognised the illogicality of such nonsense when you saw your own reflection. LoLz.

An absurd and unreasosonable extension of an analogy is illogical and fallacious. So, No e no work. No Road!
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by LordReed(m): 11:01am On Nov 25, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


An absurd and unreasosonable extension of an analogy is illogical and fallacious. So, No e no work. No Road!

LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Whether You Are Religious Or Not, We All Can Agree On This. by triplechoice(m): 11:16am On Nov 25, 2023
Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us.
Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you


In these parts, poverty and poor education are the main reason religion "always attract the least thinkers ". Boko Haram understands this very well ,hence they say "no to western education "

In countries where things work, with citizens having easy access to good quality education ,people living there are only interested in practicing a religion because of what they hope to benefit from it and not necessarily because they cannot think critically or are "least thinkers " .The president of the United States of America ,the most powerful country in the world, is a religious person, a Christian .

Does he lack the capacity to think critically ?

Religious beliefs are founded on two major things ,the personal experiences of the believer while practicing the religion ,and what is contain in religious text.

You are focused on the latter, which they don't really hold on strongly to, and hence don't have the correct perspective on things .

There will always come a time in man's life when things go south and all the things one knows no longer work to deal with the situation ,logic and rational thinking fails and one is left confused ,with depression starting to set in.

It's at this point some persons are forced to embrace a religion to bring calm to their minds and not because they lack the capacity to think critically .

So before you start to judge anyone as "least intelligent " because they practice a religion try to understand what exactly it's that has caused them to do what they are doing .

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