lastkingsman:


Have you heard about universal basic income proposal? The reason while it's being proposed is that robotics + AI will eventually replace repetitive jobs/tasks which is where majority of jobs lies.

Huge population will become a disadvantage in near future. Productivity will have a new definition.

ednut1:
But they have the worst birth rate. Only immigration can save them .

Gerrard59:


Immigration does not increase birth rate, it only increases the population. Japan is East Asia's second most populous country after China, and considering China is an anomaly at over a billion, one can say Japan is the most populous East Asian nation. Also, Japan has the highest birth rate in East Asia, higher than China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and every other Confucian society in the region as far as Singapore and even amongst Chinese Malaysians. South Korea has the lowest birth rate across the developed world, even after spending over $200BN in almost twenty years to alleviate the problem. Taiwan has spent $3BN to solve the same issue, yet both countries have lower birth rates than Japan. It is common to see families with at least two children here, but rare in China and South Korea. Marriage rates have plummeted across the rich world.

Furthermore on immigration not leading to higher birth rates. Germany opened to Turks more than thirty years ago, yet the same Germany has low birth rates today. Sweden, France and the United Kingdom too. The United States, the world's most immigrant-friendly country, also suffers from low birth rates.

The solution?

Live with it. This is because, ACROSS the rich world, birth rates are dwindling. The richer a society is, the lower the birth rate. It's a given. In Nigeria, the south has a lower birth rate than the north. Literally, because the south is way more prosperous than the north. Even amongst Muslims in the south, they've fewer children than their Northern counterparts. Prosperity leads to fewer children.

lastkingsman:


Have you heard about universal basic income proposal? The reason while it's being proposed is that robotics + AI will eventually replace repetitive jobs/tasks which is where majority of jobs lies.

Huge population will become a disadvantage in near future. Productivity will have a new definition.

Gerrard59:


Immigration does not increase birth rate, it only increases the population. Japan is East Asia's second most populous country after China, and considering China is an anomaly at over a billion, one can say Japan is the most populous East Asian nation. Also, Japan has the highest birth rate in East Asia, higher than China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and every other Confucian society in the region as far as Singapore and even amongst Chinese Malaysians. South Korea has the lowest birth rate across the developed world, even after spending over $200BN in almost twenty years to alleviate the problem. Taiwan has spent $3BN to solve the same issue, yet both countries have lower birth rates than Japan. It is common to see families with at least two children here, but rare in China and South Korea. Marriage rates have plummeted across the rich world.

Furthermore on immigration not leading to higher birth rates. Germany opened to Turks more than thirty years ago, yet the same Germany has low birth rates today. Sweden, France and the United Kingdom too. The United States, the world's most immigrant-friendly country, also suffers from low birth rates.

The solution?

Live with it. This is because, ACROSS the rich world, birth rates are dwindling. The richer a society is, the lower the birth rate. It's a given. In Nigeria, the south has a lower birth rate than the north. Literally, because the south is way more prosperous than the north. Even amongst Muslims in the south, they've fewer children than their Northern counterparts. Prosperity leads to fewer children.

CHRISTFUCKER:



What's your source that jap are the second populous country??

Gerrard59:


Immigration does not increase birth rate, it only increases the population. Japan is East Asia's second most populous country after China, and considering China is an anomaly at over a billion, one can say Japan is the most populous East Asian nation. Also, Japan has the highest birth rate in East Asia, higher than China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and every other Confucian society in the region as far as Singapore and even amongst Chinese Malaysians. South Korea has the lowest birth rate across the developed world, even after spending over $200BN in almost twenty years to alleviate the problem. Taiwan has spent $3BN to solve the same issue, yet both countries have lower birth rates than Japan. It is common to see families with at least two children here, but rare in China and South Korea. Marriage rates have plummeted across the rich world.

ednut1:
live with it So how will they country get taxes and pensions to pay the aged and retired. Immigration is not to increase birth rate na. But a quick fix to get the economy running . If businesses cant get successors most times they close down

Gerrard59:

CHRISTFUCKER:



Source

Link to an article perhaps

I disagree that japs are the second populous country, after China it's Russia fosho

GODPUNISHALABI:
u can't stop any nigerian from living anywhere ,igbos bought lagos it wasn't given to them,what yorubas should be protesting for is for the disbandment of nigeria ,if not una never see anything yet in the next 50 years you will beg and prostrate for igbo votes to rule lagos,una think say na by demolition?

DaddyJapan:


1.34 births per woman (2020), according to credible sources bah?

It's okay. When the come becomes the come, DaddyJP knows Japan will have no choice but to embrace its immigrant population.



Source: https://frontline.thehindu.com/news/japan-can-anything-be-done-to-stop-population-decline/article67157506.ece

Acidosis:

One of my major concerns about migration. These folks can wake up anytime and decide to "ronu" calmly or aggressively. Living in an hostile environment won't ever make sense.

Gerrard59:


My argument against that belief is that it is better to reside with racists in a prosperous land than live with tribalists in a poor area. Humans are tribal, but better being amongst wealthier ones.

flokii:
This is the kind of rally we should be holding in Yorubaland over unchecked influx of Igbos into South West..
The population burden no be here yet the ingrates go about insulting Yorubas and calling our women dirty.. hopeless beings living at the mercy of Yorubas yet making mouth.

GODPUNISHALABI:
u can't stop any nigerian from living anywhere ,igbos bought lagos it wasn't given to them,what yorubas should be protesting for is for the disbandment of nigeria ,if not una never see anything yet in the next 50 years you will beg and prostrate for igbo votes to rule lagos,una think say na by demolition?

nairalanda1:


Immigration does not necessarily solve low population issues

Immigrants may assimilate, y'know, and start having one child like them natives...

See the USA....that's why they have to take in fresh immigrants every year.

Hungary leads the way when it comes to pouring money into pro-natalist policies. The government spends around 5 percent of its national GDP trying to prop up the birth rate.

First there are tax breaks: women who have four or more children have a lifetime exemption from paying tax. Then there are upfront loans of $36,000, which get written off for couples that have at least three children. First-time homebuyers with kids have financial help (€35,000). And there are even government-owned fertility clinics.

Orbán isn’t the only right-winger in the Visegrád group interested in encouraging procreation.

In 2016, Poland launched its 500 plus program. Parents receive around €120 per month for every child after their first. According to the European Commission, almost 4 million children up to the age of 18 — or 55 percent of all Polish children — were covered by the program by 2017.

Gerrard59:


For poor countries, not wealthier ones. Robots don't pay taxes, nor do they consume goods and services. Although, it is rampant in Japan, but few places have robots taking care of the elderly or would accept such model.

lastkingsman:


Robots don't pay taxes doesn't mean "robotics tax" won't be introduced in the future. Lol

Just listen to Elon musk on these subject to deepen your understanding

Elon Musk, who has 9 children, has called demographic decline "a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming."

flokii:
This is the kind of rally we should be holding in Yorubaland over unchecked influx of Igbos into South West..
The population burden no be here yet the ingrates go about insulting Yorubas and calling our women dirty.. hopeless beings living at the mercy of Yorubas yet making mouth.