These things you mentioned is not all thats required!.

frankson1:




My comments have been very clear and simple.

Is there any other meaning to Federalism: state policing, states resource control or restructuring that was discussed in the CONFAB that is different from the El Rufai's committee

If they all mean the same thing then there shouldn't be any fuss about it. If it's implemented, it won't matter which report was used as it would lead to the same results.

Even when GMB tried giving autonomy to LGAs and House of Assembly, he was still being criticized by some people.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO CRITICIZE EVERYTHING.

DMerciful:
These things you mentioned is not all thats required!.

Okay.

Iceberg3:
I back tinubu on this.
Remember he's former NADECO.
If this is the only thing Tinubu will do, glory be to God

Co-signed.

Honestey:
GEJ spent billions to come up with National Conference and I believe that would be far more beneficial to Nigerians than this. What happened to that work?

El-Rufai's committee did not operate in a vacuum. Neither did it start its work from Year Zero (apologies Pol Pot).
It actually studied the 2014 Confab report as part of its deliberations.

The El-Rufai committee was saddled with a lofty responsibility to distill the actual intent and definition of true federalism as promised by the APC during their 2015 electioneering campaign and to study the reports of the various National Conferences, especially that of 2014 and thus come up with recommendations on restructuring the country.

While performing this national task, the committee engaged 8,014 people across the country and came up with 24 issues which Nigerians indicated interest on. And, out of the 24 issues, they made 12 important recommendations based on the opinions of Nigerians.

Source: https://www.ripplesnigeria.com/restructuring-12-unforgettable-points-of-the-el-rufai-report-rotting-away-in-apcs-cupboard

frankson1:




Is there any Nigerian politician who's not fighting for his pocket from PDP to APC to LP to NNPP etc ALL of them share one and the same common goal which is to STEAL as much money as they could.

I was buying one bag of rice during pdp years at rate of 8k per bag ,I import 20ft container from Italy with 10,000euros which is 1.7million naira today where can I see 13.6millon to import the same goods today, apc destroyed nigeria know this know peace

Globad:


Constitutionally-backed national dialogue?

How exactly will this be achieved?

How?

A national dialogue that will repeal the existing constitution and be backed by the National Assembly!
You follow the existing constitution in making a new one

Godfullsam:
True federalism is the best way to go..

It will greatly reduce cost of governance

It will remove concentration of power at the center.

It will give people sense of belonging

Watch as some people will come here and call the move tribalism.

Ykc2:
I was buying one bag of rice during pdp years at rate of 8k per bag ,I import 20ft container from Italy with 10,000euros which is 1.7million naira today where can I see 13.6millon to import the same goods today, apc destroyed nigeria know this know peace

The economy didn't become bad suddenly. It was years of neglect.

Since the APC is your problem, go and read all Madam Okonjo Iweala said about the country's economy way back in 2013.

Distracting news.
Bring down fuel price
Pay our teachers.
Secure our farmers.

ijustdey:


https://dailytrust.com/apc-mulls-implementation-of-el-rufai-cttees-report-on-true-federalism/

“It is good for Nigeria, it will work for Nigerians and it will be best for Nigeria because what that would have achieved is that the overhead cost in governance will be substantially removed, a level-playing field both in business and politics will be enhanced and Nigerians in their area of influence will have sense of belonging.”


If u use ur brain and know a thing or two about sweet mouth, u will know whoever said this is just talking for talking sake. Like just to make it look like they mean business.



Which one be nigerians in their area of influence will have a sense of belonging?

What does that even mean sef if taken in any serious context?

frankson1:




The economy didn't become bad suddenly. It was years of neglect.

Since the APC is your problem, go and read all Madam Okonjo Iweala said about the country's economy way back in 2013.

apc destroyed it finally and it will never be good again

Ykc2:
apc destroyed it finally and it will never be good again

Well, I didn't expect to read anything different since this is Nairaland.


Sleep well.

Instead of support

Some people are making mockery out of it

Look if you want to set any captive free from captivity .


It's a big task,

You need to arrest the captors

Before attempt to release the captive

Some will understand,my prayer for this

government is for divine guidance to succeed.

ogaontop:

Different members of the confab committee are not just PDP members and they are more diverse than the El Rufai's committee because it's like a National dialogue drawn from all the geopolitical zones of the country!
The only thing I can agree here is that governments should make such discussions and subsequent implementation a constitutionally backed national dialogue rather than a political party affair!!

There are clear provisions for amending the constitution, the confab is found nowhere in those provisions. As such it has as much legal effect as El Rufai's committee. The constitution reserves changes in its content to duly elected representatives of the Nigerian people and not appointed representatives irrespective of how well meaning those appointments are.

That being said, attention and focus should shift to the NASS where the real work will be done.

Let us hope that all our national representatives will put aside party issues and help to restore our truncated federal structure.

BreconHills:


It isn't claiming to be a known entity neither is it claiming to be superior to the confab report. What it does recognize is that amending the Federal structure is a political matter which is why the report is domiciled with a political party and not with the government.

You sound more stupid with your watery explanation

richiemcgold:
What happened to Jonathan's confab report?



Does the same not applied to this purported El Rufai's report?

No it is not the same the ruling party setup a committee to look at ways to govern the country better , whatever suggestions the committee came up with if sanctioned by the NWC of the party will now be presented to the national assembly to review.

LandMann:


You sound more stupid with your watery explanation

Sorry about that

I back tinubu on this.Remember he's former NADECO.If this is the only thing Tinubu will do, glory be to GodI back tinubu on this.Remember he's former NADECO.If this is the only thing Tinubu will do, glory be to God...

Nonsense.
These people know what's needed but keep beating about the bush and living in denial

How can you impose a myopic report of a single political party on the country instead the confab report agreed to by delegates
from all the geopolitical regions ?A
Any report not formulated by all the regions is a nullity.

The best action is to reactivate the independent constitutions agreed
to by the country's founding fathers - regional system of government but this time with seccession clause.

ogaontop:

A national dialogue that will repeal the existing constitution and be backed by the National Assembly!
You follow the existing constitution in making a new one

It won't be constitutional if the members are not elected

The members can't be elected because there's no constitutional basis to do so

DMerciful:
Which dividends of governance?

An El Rufai committee will be rejected so lets not get it twisted

What's the alternative?

It's easy to criticize

GanagiBitrus:
True Federalism with greater devolution of powers to the States & resources control by states will make every State to look inwards & aim to be self sufficient.

You'll be surprised by the progress made by each State after 10years.

Some we struggle initially but they will all be fine after some years. A lot of governors are useless and they only wait for month end to collect allocation. Those states especially the ones in the north that willn't be able to survive should merge with other states. What is the usefulness of 36 states when some of them are very useless and not productive?

Yes sir , the CONFAB WILL BE WAY BETTER THAN THIS ONE, d Enemy of the TRUTH SAT OVER ! EVERY ETHNC group in Nigeria congregated to work on that report and agenda,it should never be thrown away ,though the the original convener was so so weak and drunk that he couldn't kick start his own brain child software.plenty circumstansia leaders in this nigeria.we are cursed with Evil leadership.

DMerciful:
You left the confab to implement work done by a committee?

Modified: Either the confab or a sovereign national conference. We must renegotiate our existence and decide if we wanna be together and under what terms!

richiemcgold:
What happened to Jonathan's confab report?



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Jonathan himself spent hundred of millions to do a confab only to refuse to implement it.

I have to turn upside down to read this.

richiemcgold:
What happened to Jonathan's confab report?



Does the same not applied to this purported El Rufai's report?


Your argument sounds too flimsy to me. Jonathan's report can also be presented to the national assembly by the presidency. You can't abandon a report put together by participants from all parts of the country for a so-called report put together by El Rufai and his ilks.

Stop arguing blindly , the confab wasn't constitutional as govt selected members rather than allowing each local govt area select who will rep them that already was a loophole and that was one of the reasons even Gej didn't present it as he knew it won't fly , Apc being a smart party made the review a party affair so that was whatever recommendations they came up with can be presented formally as a document from either the president or even the senate president as a Bill, apc have the majority and therefore it will be accepted and now processed formally .
Next time try and do a research on issues and how democratic system of g0vt works.

GanagiBitrus:
True Federalism with greater devolution of powers to the States & resources control by states will make every State to look inwards & aim to be self sufficient.

You'll be surprised by the progress made by each State after 10years.

Indeed. My opinion too 100%.

benardtotti:



Stop arguing blindly , the confab wasn't constitutional as govt selected members rather than allowing each local govt area select who will rep them that already was a loophole and that was one of the reasons even Gej didn't present it as he knew it won't fly , Apc being a smart party made the review a party affair so that was whatever recommendations they came up with can be presented formally as a document from either the president or even the senate president as a Bill, apc have the majority and therefore it will be accepted and now processed formally .
Next time try and do a research on issues and how democratic system of g0vt works.

You're the one arguing blindly; repeating the same wrong argument over and over again. APC is not the only political party in Nigeria. Your party can't impose your so-called report on Nigeria without carrying everybody along.

BTW, a novice like you can't be telling me how democracy works. What do you know

richiemcgold:


You're the one arguing blindly; repeating the same wrong argument over and over again. APC is not the only political party in Nigeria. Your party can't impose your so-called report on Nigeria without carrying everybody along.

BTW, a novice like you can't be telling me how democracy works. What do you know

You just proved how daft you are with this statement 🤣, enjoy your ignorance, don't worry when apc presents any bill at the assembly go there and tell them they didn't carry the minority along , they say " majority carries the vote " but your dumb self thinks otherwise.
Ignorance is indeed bliss .

DMerciful:



You left the confab to implement work done by a committee?

Modified: Either the confab or a sovereign national conference. We must renegotiate our existence and decide if we wanna be together and under what terms!

Even what is universally agreed as a solution petty and ethnocentric people like you must argue about because you see individuals ( GEJ not Tinubu) rather than ideas i.e the implementation of comprehensive restructuring asap regardless of what or whose submission is used to achieve it.

It is as if attachment to clan, ethnicity, religion or sectional affiliation blind you to what is obvious which is that solutions, that stops Nigeria failing, must be brought in ASAP. If APC wish to use the El Rufai committee submissions then so be it.

A progressive person knows that APC are in power and want to be perceived as providers of solutions. Natural they will not want to do PDP any favours.

They will use El Rufai's committee finding to claim glory but that should not bother any progressive Nigerian because they are simply seeking solutions and are not politicians quibbling over political bragging rights. Really tiring sharing a nation with your sort.

benardtotti:


You just proved how daft you are with this statement 🤣, enjoy your ignorance, don't worry when apc presents any bill at the assembly go there and tell them they didn't carry the minority along , they say " majority carries the vote " but your dumb self thinks otherwise.
Ignorance is indeed bliss .

You see your life.
So APC will present a report to the national assembly and they will just pass it like that without any input from the people. Is that how constitution amendments work? Permit me to say it again that you know nothing. Olodo!

richiemcgold:


You see your life.
So APC will present a report to the national assembly and they will just pass it like that without any input from the people. Is that how constitution amendments work? Permit me to say it again that you know nothing. Olodo!

You are indeed daft , last administration apc presented constitution review and it was handled until it was passed to the 36 states assembly to also endorse , that was where it stalled , it did not stall at the national assembly cos apc had a majority vote. Try and study to show yourself approved as the Holy book will say.