A very welcome development. For those saying the state government will abuse it, is the Federal Government not presently abusing it? At least it will reveal true federalism and also brings security closer to the people. Plus, the madness about one tribe being in charge of the whole police system as the IG will also reduce. It will also gender better working conditions for the officers. No arbitrary transfer from one state to the other, and they will be within their terrains of familiarity. There are cons, albeit we cannot eat our cake and still have it. Nigeria is grossly underpoliced, no thanks to the centralisation of the police system.

end of central IG control

Paraman:
If not for northern politicians that were always against state police, maybe we could have had one by now

Paraman:
If not for stuff northern politicians that were always against state police, maybe we could have had one by now

those real goons in the north a lot of shit goes down in the north that’s why they don’t want you coming close they mine all minerals alot of bunkering work is being done in the north with the foreigners coming through Sahara desert they don’t want you coming close

faceland:


You make it sound like all it takes to conquer Nigeria is state police... If it was that easy, ISIS would have taken over Nigeria to sell oil like they did in Syria.

Someone pointed out (here on Niaraland a week ago) that most terrorist are now bandits trying to make money. They are not looking for a fight, they are looking for victims. They don't want to go to heaven, they want to enjoy their ransom here on
earth.

Even 18 years old local boys, if given weapons would eliminate any foooqin invaders/terrorist for fun/adventure.

Amend the constitution to get true and fiscal federalism which includes State Police.
If true and fiscal federalism are not brought to operate in Nigeria but unitary government system still in place, while State Police comes to be, it's like using oil proceeds to finance Jihadists hiding under state police of the 12 Sharia states to take over all of Nigeria.

JoeEeL:
I don't like Tinubu o. In fact, I don't like One-Nigeria as a construct.

I like the tribes and the indigenes respectively, but the composition of all these to form one giant country created by an european terrorist is just a worry to me.

That said, if Tinubu can fully pursue state police and find ways to influence the Senate, that's a step in the right direction. That's the beginning of devolution of power.

This new CP of a guy named Lagbaja is a Yoruba man. If there is unrest in the South East, a Yoruba man will now go there and bring in forces and you know na, some South East indigenes may be killed or arrested. Before u know it, it may look like victimisation. If Nigerian police forces were very professional, maybe it would have even been better. All these make me cringe.

Just like if a white police officer roughhandles a black man. As blacks, we have this feeling that we are being victimised even though the white police officer may truly be professional. But in this nigeria, our case is even better than blacks and whites of countries like U.S.A etc. because we are indigenous by nature. We have our ancestral lands.

So let everyone face their own lane. Let Ijaw police officer police ijaw community. Let Berom do the same. Same goes for Igede, Urhobo, Ejagham, TIV, Baruba, Bini, Igbo, hausa, beri, Kamuku, Zabarma, Bussawa, and of course, the gallant Yoruba nation.

When you write laws, it is great that you are able to articulate the good intention behind state police and the hopes legislation should bring to life. However, you should also imagine the possible wrongs and dangers agents can bring. For one, state police will likely be abused by governors who are unchecked by their respective houses of assembly. But this risk is outweighed by the security crisis. Another is the that state police may become catalyst for trial conflicts. Will Benue state police victimize the Funlani communities in that state? Will Kano state police victimize Christians?

Finally, the issue of funding has to be addressed. If the state police will not be adequately funded, why bother?

Just post the current policemen to their state of origin and classify the mobile police as federal police in charge of the FCT and any other state with low numbers of police officers till they can recruit to fill the gap.

Just maintain their current command and control structure with the IGP and DIGs in Abuja.

They shouldn't try it please. Governors will become too powerful. They will use it against political foes.

Penguin2:
As much as this idea sounds great due to insecurity, it will just make governors mini tyrants.

I hope they put enough checks mechanism in the law that would set it up to mitigate abuse.

APC governors will just be using state police to rig elections.

In fact, I suspect the reason they are pushing for State Police is to have enough touts that would help execute 2027 elections seeing that nobody in his right senses would vote for them except their brainless supporters.

what of PDP gorvenors abi that one no worry u and how come u ain't worried president ll use federal police to.. what solution do u have

malali:
Clueless senators, ready to rubber stamp the president or a prominent elite.

They are not even aware they represent their constituencies, they have not discussed state police with the people who elected them.

Tinubu mentioned state police yesterday, the whole senate woke up today, and they are ready to "approve" it.

Presidential, legislative and the judiciary should be holding each other accountable, to provide checks and balances.

But in Nigeria, none of that exists.... Possible problems would be:

1-Potential for political interference and corruption.
2-Inadequate funding leading to poor resources and training.
3-Fragmentation of law enforcement, causing coordination issues.
4-Risk of abuse of power without strong oversight.
5-Exacerbation of ethnic and regional tensions.


Start slowly 80% federal police and 20% state police,Gradually over 6 years pullback till we have 10% Federal and 90% state, But there should always be federal oversight, Nigeria is too polarized to have every state having their own police.

If this government should turn to state police overnight, They are removing the subsidy on state security.

We are still in the turmoil of removed dollar and fuel subsidy. Anyone suggesting state police now is being delusional.

. The insecurity in nigeria has gone beyond this your analysis. It’s with immediate efffect that this state policing should take . Is federal police not used for all this reason you stated up there already . Even If you are a rich man in nigeria you can use the current nigeria Police to do anythiNg . The last election the governor of even state used the commissioner and the police in that state to their advantage. The state police will do more . And for the funding, the security votes governor collect in billions will be judiciously used now other than them using it for their personal gain. Nothing that you scared off that has no already been in the system before . But this will go far , at least the indigenes protecting thier territory, no more fulani this and that , no more Igbo do this and Yoruba do that .

Penguin2:
As much as this idea sounds great due to insecurity, it will just make governors mini tyrants.

I hope they put enough checks mechanism in the law that would set it up to mitigate abuse.

APC governors will just be using state police to rig elections.

In fact, I suspect the reason they are pushing for State Police is to have enough touts that would help execute 2027 elections seeing that nobody in his right senses would vote for them except their brainless supporters.

it is not everything you must criticized. You people always refer to developed and saner society, these places have even county police not to talk of state police. Security is local, therefore the locals can police their community better than a total stranger who might not know even the terrain of where he is policing. Whether State police or not, politicians do have their foot soldiers who they use in perpetuating their electoral fraud if they want to. You don't have to throw the baby and the bath water away, simply because of such frivolous excuses.

Penguin2:
As much as this idea sounds great due to insecurity, it will just make governors mini tyrants.

I hope they put enough checks mechanism in the law that would set it up to mitigate abuse.

APC governors will just be using state police to rig elections.

In fact, I suspect the reason they are pushing for State Police is to have enough touts that would help execute 2027 elections seeing that nobody in his right senses would vote for them except their brainless supporters.

Enough of all these fears of state governors using their state police to have their way,..
They are almost totally using judiciary and the federal police as well as other security agencies anyway.
Insecurity is bringing this nation down to its knees, with state police communities can constitutionally have their say and way (to a large extent) when it comes to securing their territories. But right now, imagine aliens coming into communities with sophisticated weapons and all the communities do is to run away or perish while waiting on federal security agencies that may not turn up or arrive late. Enough of the fears that governors will abuse the opportunity. They will do, but the gains right now outweigh those fears. After all the governors can only constitutionally enjoy maximum 8years, that is all things being equal. Even if they install their stooges to takeover from them, the stooge having gained control may or may not continue to be loyal to the godfather.
We need security to be restored ASAP. Else we'll drown.

In an extremely corrupt entity like Nigeria, state police is the beginning of the downward slide of Nigeria into oblivion

Kay17:


When you write laws, it is great that you are able to articulate the good intention behind state police and the hopes legislation should bring to life. However, you should also imagine the possible wrongs and dangers agents can bring. For one, state police will likely be abused by governors who are unchecked by their respective houses of assembly. But this risk is outweighed by the security crisis. Another is the that state police may become catalyst for trial conflicts. Will Benue state police victimize the Funlani communities in that state? Will Kano state police victimize Christians?

Finally, the issue of funding has to be addressed. If the state police will not be adequately funded, why bother?

are you guys not in this country , this things are being done already even with the federal police . So it’s better to shed that power from the federal police and give it to state level because with state police their will not be conflict of interest. The purpose is for security strengthening which will make the indigenous people of that state to be more involved. U can’t expect a fulani man to treat a Yoruba man well . But if it’s fulani and fulani, they know how to deal with demselfs. Nothing must stop it oo. Your fears of governors using them is something that is been practiced daily tru the current fed police , so your point on that is not valid , or why do you think they transfer commissioners of police all the time when ever people feel the alignment between governor of the said state and the police commissioner. Bro this is nigeria. The greater good outweighs the sentiments so let them bring it oo.

EponObi:


Idiot. I'll feed your you and your family.

Trolling Epon Obi is what I do for fun. Don't play.

eru amoda onikure even seyi tilumbu will give you crumbs to feed your wretched family, ashiere!!!

Remove dollar monopoly on our imports, Nigeria should firm trade organizations with nations that we have trade relationship with, so we pay in naira and receive their local currencies. Reduce cost of governance, reduce allowances of political office holders, appointees etc. State police is critical, give more power to states to create more laws to secure their states.

Gjrich:

https://saharareporters.com/2024/02/17/senate-says-its-ready-amend-nigerian-constitution-okay-state-police

State police is just a monster waiting to feed on whatever is left of the dead country called Nigeria. Regional police should be the way to go, that way the police architecture will have proper funding and less vulnerability to be hijacked by one Demi god called Governor. The regional police should also have federal oversight, something like the FBI to check the excesses in the abuse of power.

Ohraykon:
eru amoda onikure even seyi tilumbu will give you crumbs to feed your wretched family, ashiere!!!

Oponu. Anyone that doesn't agree with their fake messiah is paid. Olopolo kukuru bi epon Obi.

malali:
Clueless senators, ready to rubber stamp the president or a prominent elite.

They are not even aware they represent their constituencies, they have not discussed state police with the people who elected them.

Tinubu mentioned state police yesterday, the whole senate woke up today, and they are ready to "approve" it.

Presidential, legislative and the judiciary should be holding each other accountable, to provide checks and balances.

But in Nigeria, none of that exists.... Possible problems would be:

1-Potential for political interference and corruption.
2-Inadequate funding leading to poor resources and training.
3-Fragmentation of law enforcement, causing coordination issues.
4-Risk of abuse of power without strong oversight.
5-Exacerbation of ethnic and regional tensions.


Start slowly 80% federal police and 20% state police,Gradually over 6 years pullback till we have 10% Federal and 90% state, But there should always be federal oversight, Nigeria is too polarized to have every state having their own police.

If this government should turn to state police overnight, They are removing the subsidy on state security.

We are still in the turmoil of removed dollar and fuel subsidy. Anyone suggesting state police now is being delusional.

I strongly agree with you. 👍

princepeter566:
Nigeria that will soon explode.

The explosion will start from your house.

Nigerians are you sure this state police won't become another tools by state governors turning to Mobutu and Mugabe of their state

I remember everytime we rushed seeking solution to a problem we always ended up creating more problems than solution..

Sleekfingers:




The explosion will start from your house.

Then it will consume your and your family and your entire generation

princepeter566:

Then it will consume your and your family and your entire generation

😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Another Desmond Elliott pikin spotted....

We're too lazy to think, that's why we are like this.

Instead of coming up with a good framework of how to prevent abuse of state policing or even copy and paste from countries practicing it.

We're still wasting time and dieing like fowls.

Same reason fools can just wake up and ban motorcycles just because of accident or theft, instead of proper regulations and enforcement.

Don't worry, bandits will do the abuse since you don't want it done by governors.

For your information, local governments have their own police in serious climes.
Continue lazying about.

Below is response from Ai to my question, what are the levels of policing in USA? :

In the United States, there are three main levels of policing: federal, state, and local. The federal level includes agencies like the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). State agencies include the highway patrol, state police, and state bureaus of investigation. Local policing includes city police departments, county sheriff's offices, and school resource officers. All levels of policing work together to enforce the law and keep people safe. Do you want to know more about any of these levels of policing?

I'm not exactly sold on the state police. In states where there's a lot of scrutiny and are somewhat liberal, the media and civil societies groups would checkmate excesses.

But what happens to states with historically autocratic governors where their word is law and opposition hunted to death? State police would be used as a ruse to hound dissenting voices.

Except there's a mechanism which lets the central powers checkmate state police. Imagine what a Yahaya Bello would have done with state police... Just imagine.

DissTroy:
I'm not exactly sold on the state police. In states where there's a lot of scrutiny and are somewhat liberal, the media and civil societies groups would checkmate excesses.

But what happens to states with historically autocratic governors where their word is law and opposition hunted to death? State police would be used as a ruse to hound dissenting voices.

Except there's a mechanism which let's the central powers checkmate state police. Imagine what a Yahaya Bello would have done with state police... Just imagine.

Exactly, some Power drunk Governors will abuse the right/privilege.
Remember the likes of Sylva, Bello, etc.

Gjrich:

https://saharareporters.com/2024/02/17/senate-says-its-ready-amend-nigerian-constitution-okay-state-police

Any amendment that is not on, for, to restructure is useless.

cjudy:
They should also amend how the INEC chairman is being appointed. Let it be by election because the INEC chairman always Favour’s his principle

It's not about INEC Chairman is being selected it about the politics being play by politicians. If you understand the politics you have your way otherwise you thrown out. Nigeria politics it isn't a politics of hatred or sympathy it's a politics of give and take.

They should also be ready to amend the constitution to SCRAP the National Assembly and this criminal presidential system.

Tinubu is not the originator of state police. This was one of the recommendations of the 2014 confab.

All western democracy we said we copied practice upto county police how much more of state police

malali:
Clueless senators, ready to rubber stamp the president or a prominent elite.

They are not even aware they represent their constituencies, they have not discussed state police with the people who elected them.

Tinubu mentioned state police yesterday, the whole senate woke up today, and they are ready to "approve" it.

Presidential, legislative and the judiciary should be holding each other accountable, to provide checks and balances.

But in Nigeria, none of that exists.... Possible problems would be:

1-Potential for political interference and corruption.
2-Inadequate funding leading to poor resources and training.
3-Fragmentation of law enforcement, causing coordination issues.
4-Risk of abuse of power without strong oversight.
5-Exacerbation of ethnic and regional tensions.


Start slowly 80% federal police and 20% state police,Gradually over 6 years pullback till we have 10% Federal and 90% state, But there should always be federal oversight, Nigeria is too polarized to have every state having their own police.

If this government should turn to state police overnight, They are removing the subsidy on state security.

We are still in the turmoil of removed dollar and fuel subsidy. Anyone suggesting state police now is being delusional.

Fear of accidents cannot stop of from traveling. At this point, state police is an existential need. Heck, in Canada, we have even as low as an equivalent of local government police

Penguin2:
As much as this idea sounds great due to insecurity, it will just make governors mini tyrants.

I hope they put enough checks mechanism in the law that would set it up to mitigate abuse.

APC governors will just be using state police to rig elections.

In fact, I suspect the reason they are pushing for State Police is to have enough touts that would help execute 2027 elections seeing that nobody in his right senses would vote for them except their brainless supporters.

Kay17:


When you write laws, it is great that you are able to articulate the good intention behind state police and the hopes legislation should bring to life. However, you should also imagine the possible wrongs and dangers agents can bring. For one, state police will likely be abused by governors who are unchecked by their respective houses of assembly. But this risk is outweighed by the security crisis. Another is the that state police may become catalyst for trial conflicts. Will Benue state police victimize the Funlani communities in that state? Will Kano state police victimize Christians?

Finally, the issue of funding has to be addressed. If the state police will not be adequately funded, why bother?

In Yoruba land, Amotekun is a model already. We do not record as much abuse by the governors. The governors already have their thugs they use for bad intentions anyways, and no one does anything about it, even the FG... so why should we budge?

Besides the level of invasion by fulani herdsmen and ongoing jihad, combined with the infiltration of the nigerian army by so-called boko haram repentants from operation safe corridor, is enough to give the support a try.

Indigenous peoples also relax a lot. Just like slaves. They should also learn to mount hot pressure on these so-called governors and their royal fathers if they try to step out of the line.