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Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:21am On Feb 21
There is a trending video of Apostle Suleman condemning Apostle Paul's teachings.

He started by narrating the story of a dear friend of his who used to unveil the teachings of Apostle Paul is such a manner that will compel you to want to hear more. But after a programme the young man had, he went home, slept and never woke up. He said he died just the same age his father died.

So, Apostle Suleman said he was worried why a man that carry that kind of message will just die like that. So, he began to pray and he said that the Lord Jesus appeared to him and said that what the man was preaching was Paul's revelation and not his revelation.

In addition, he added that Jesus said that was why Apostle Peter attacked Paul's writing that they were in errors. I may not be transcribing it exactly how he said it but this is the message I got from the video. You can check it on YouTube.

Now, my submission is that, it wasn't Jesus who spoke to Apostle Suleman. Something is definitely wrong somewhere. Jesus will never say anything contrary to his word. Not every vision is from God. So, we have to be careful about how we receive messages from teachers and preachers we follow. Read the Bible for yourself.

I will back up my submission in the next post.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Chukwuka319(m): 7:28am On Feb 21
I have always known that the Woman addicted Suleiman who specialises in celebrity Kpekus is never a true man of God.
An undiluted fake always giving false prophecies right from the beginning of time.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 7:30am On Feb 21
Saul or is it Paul, the murderer of Ebionites that suddenly had a vision of Jesus he never met. cheesy
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:34am On Feb 21
Apostle Paul in his letter to the church of Galatians wrote;

Galatians 1:11-12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

He said that his teachings are personal revelation from Jesus. And Apostle Suleman said Jesus said his friend who died was teaching Paul's revelation and not his revelation. This contradicts the scripture unless Apostle Suleman is saying that Paul lied.

And if Apostle lied that his messages are from Jesus when actually they are his messages, them the New Testament letters of Apostle Paul is not the word of God to his church.

This is a grave error from Apostle Suleman. And those who his spiritual fathers should please call him to order before he sets confusion in the church to unstable souls.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 7:37am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:
Apostle Paul in his letter to the church of Galatians wrote;

Galatians 1:11-12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

What gospel was preached to him and by who?
Acts 9:6
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:42am On Feb 21
In addition, he said Apostle Peter condemned Paul's writings that they are in error. This is not true. Let's read what Peter said About Apostle Paul;

2nd Peter 3:14-16
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also ACCORDING TO THE WISDOM given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter said in verse 15 that Paul's letters were in accordance to the wisdom God gave to him. How can Peter make this assertion and at the same time condemn Paul's writings.

What Peter said in verse 16 is that Paul's writings are difficult to understand. He never said that they are untrue. Rather, he said they are not just something you read on the surface. They contain great truths which some people have misinterpreted to their own destruction.

So, I really don't understand were Apostle Suleman is coming from.

He should be called to order before he misleads countless thousands who believe in him and cause confusion in the body of Christ.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:45am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:

What gospel was preached to him and by who?
Acts 9:6
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

I don't get your question. Jesus ordained Apostle Paul into the Ministry and gave him the message to preach.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 7:45am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also ACCORDING TO THE WISDOM given unto him hath written unto you;

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Notice how none of Jesus disciples called Saul or is it Paul, an apostle?
Even when they wanted to chose a substitute for Judas, Saul or is it Paul was never considered.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 7:45am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


I don't get your question. Jesus ordained Apostle Paul into the Ministry and gave him the message to preach.

According to what saul or is it Paul told you.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:53am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:


According to what saul or is it Paul told you.

The book of Acts was not written by Apostle Paul. It was written by Dr Luke. What is your problem?
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Amotolongbo(f): 7:53am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:
There is a trending video of Apostle Suleman condemning Apostle Paul's teachings.

He started by narrating the story of a dear friend of his who used to unveil the teachings of Apostle Paul is such a manner that will compel you to want to hear more. But after a programme the young man had, he went home, slept and never woke up. He said he died just the same age his father died.

So, Apostle Suleman said he was worried why a man that carry that kind of message will just die like that. So, he began to pray and he said that the Lord Jesus appeared to him and said that what the man was preaching was Paul's revelation and not his revelation.

In addition, he added that Jesus said that was why Apostle Peter attacked Paul's writing that they were in errors. I may not be transcribing it exactly how he said it but this is the message I got from the video. You can check it on YouTube.

Now, my submission is that, it wasn't Jesus who spoke to Apostle Suleman. Something is definitely wrong somewhere. Jesus will never say anything contrary to his word. Not every vision is from God. So, we have to be careful about how we receive messages from teachers and preachers we follow. Read the Bible for yourself.

I will back up my submission in the next post.
Alfa Sule might be fake, but he is saying something reasonable.

Paul’s writing were just compilation by the early catholics to rule and suppress humanity to the leadership of Popes.

Peter and other disciples that dined and wined with Jesus and had almost all the views of Christ when he was alive, they had very negligible contribution to the churches growth, but Paul that didn’t see Jesus did.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:55am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:

Notice how none of Jesus disciples called Saul or is it Paul, an apostle?
Even when they wanted to chose a substitute for Judas, Saul or is it Paul was never considered.

Apostle Paul wasn't a disciple of Jesus when Jesus was on earth. So, he couldn't have been considered as a choice.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 7:55am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


The book of Acts was not written by Apostle Paul. It was written by Dr Luke. What is your problem?
And Acts said.
Acts 9:6
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Who preached to gospel to him, and when?
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 7:56am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


Apostle Paul wasn't a disciple of Jesus when Jesus was on earth. So, he couldn't have been considered as a choice.
So why is he then an apostle?
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 7:59am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:

So why is he then an apostle?

Jesus chose him.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 8:02am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:

And Acts said.
Acts 9:6
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Who preached to gospel to him, and when?

The Lord himself directed him where to go and hear the gospel. And he went to Ananias who laid hands on him and got him filled with the Holy Spirit.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 8:03am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


Jesus chose him.
Like he chose the 70 apostles right in Luke 10:1?!
What about the Marys, are they also apostles?
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 8:05am On Feb 21
So the gospel was preached and taught to Saul by Men?
Ken4Christ:


The Lord himself directed him where to go and hear the gospel. And he went to Ananias who laid hands on him and got him filled with the Holy Spirit.
Yet in Paul letters he went to Damascus without telling anyone.
He went to Damascus blind abi?!

How come peter who taught saul the gospel were arguing?
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 9:28am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:
So the gospel was preached and taught to Saul by Men?
Yet in Paul letters he went to Damascus without telling anyone.
He went to Damascus blind abi?!

How come peter who taught saul the gospel were arguing?



Peter didn't argue with Paul. You don't teach anyone the gospel. But you can teach the revelation of God concerning the church and God's purpose and plans. The gospel is simple. It's about the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. It's the good news that Jesus died for the world and the free gift of salvation is available for all.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 9:30am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:

Like he chose the 70 apostles right in Luke 10:1?!
What about the Marys, are they also apostles?

He chose him to be an Apostle to the Gentiles.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 9:31am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


Peter didn't argue with Paul. You don't teach anyone the gospel. But you can teach the revelation of God concerning the church and God's purpose and plans. The gospel is simple. It's about the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. It's the good news that Jesus died for the world and the free gift of salvation is available for all.
Saul the murderer of Ebonites was taught the Gospel by Men he was murdering.
And peter and saul argued over the doctrines saul was teaching.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 9:33am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


He chose him to be an Apostle to the Gentiles.
Your Jesus will have to create more seats then.
Matthew 19:28
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 9:38am On Feb 21
Maynthemayn:

Your Jesus will have to create more seats then.
Matthew 19:28

Apostle Paul is the twelfth, not the one chosen to replace Judah.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 9:39am On Feb 21
The 70 that Jesus chose and the Marys are also apostles na, over 100 seats will be added.
According to you, you only need to be chosen to be an apostle.

Ken4Christ:


Apostle Paul is the twelfth, not the one chosen to replace Judah.
No, when the other disciples wanted to chose who to replace Judas then did not consider saul, their former murderer.
And also Jesus was making that statement to the 12 disciples that were his witnesses, Matthew 19;28.
Saul never met Jesus.

No where did the other disciples refer to Saul as an apostle.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Babinski: 10:54am On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:


He chose him to be an Apostle to the Gentiles.

You do not need to engage with him for any purposes of enlightenment. Check is posts on this forum over the years and it is clear he is not a Christian. He is probably some self acclaimed philosopher seeking to sow discord. If he can be making statement like Paul not being selected as one of the disciples, you can clearly see the depth of his understanding of the scriptures.

That being said, I do not expect any serious Christian to take the self styled Apostle Suleiman serious as a Christian Minister after all the issues with women of easy virtue. By their fruits we shall know them. Forget about the English speaking and talk talk on stages and television.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 10:58am On Feb 21
Babinski:


You do not need to engage with him for any purposes of enlightenment. Check is posts on this forum over the years and it is clear he is not a Christian. He is probably some self acclaimed philosopher seeking to sow discord. If he can be making statement like Paul not being selected as one of the disciples, you can clearly see the depth of his understanding of the scriptures.

Nobody is talking about disciples here, even the Pharisees and scribes were disciples.
Use both understanding and comprehension before jumping to a Convo next time.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 11:50am On Feb 21
Babinski:


You do not need to engage with him for any purposes of enlightenment. Check is posts on this forum over the years and it is clear he is not a Christian. He is probably some self acclaimed philosopher seeking to sow discord. If he can be making statement like Paul not being selected as one of the disciples, you can clearly see the depth of his understanding of the scriptures.

That being said, I do not expect any serious Christian to take the self styled Apostle Suleiman serious as a Cheistian Minister after all the issues with women of easy virtue. By their fruits we shall know them. Forget about the English speaking and talk talk on stages and television.

Thanks. I got you.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Dtruthspeaker: 12:00pm On Feb 21
Babinski:


You do not need to engage with him for any purposes of enlightenment. Check is posts on this forum over the years and it is clear he is not a Christian. He is probably some self acclaimed philosopher seeking to sow discord. If he can be making statement like Paul not being selected as one of the disciples, you can clearly see the depth of his understanding of the scriptures. .

it is obvious he is mad
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Maynthemayn: 12:25pm On Feb 21
The mad people are those that base their life on books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by JobZoneNews(m): 12:40pm On Feb 21
Ken4Christ:
There is a trending video of Apostle Suleman condemning Apostle Paul's teachings.

He started by narrating the story of a dear friend of his who used to unveil the teachings of Apostle Paul is such a manner that will compel you to want to hear more. But after a programme the young man had, he went home, slept and never woke up. He said he died just the same age his father died.

So, Apostle Suleman said he was worried why a man that carry that kind of message will just die like that. So, he began to pray and he said that the Lord Jesus appeared to him and said that what the man was preaching was Paul's revelation and not his revelation.

In addition, he added that Jesus said that was why Apostle Peter attacked Paul's writing that they were in errors. I may not be transcribing it exactly how he said it but this is the message I got from the video. You can check it on YouTube.

Now, my submission is that, it wasn't Jesus who spoke to Apostle Suleman. Something is definitely wrong somewhere. Jesus will never say anything contrary to his word. Not every vision is from God. So, we have to be careful about how we receive messages from teachers and preachers we follow. Read the Bible for yourself.

I will back up my submission in the next post.


Very interesting. I ll investigate further to see. Thank you for pointing attention to this. But I ll still check this out because the Apostle is a highly reverered preacher.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by oranget(m): 3:36pm On Feb 21
Amotolongbo:
Alfa Sule might be fake, but he is saying something reasonable.

Paul’s writing were just compilation by the early catholics to rule and suppress humanity to the leadership of Popes.

Peter and other disciples that dined and wined with Jesus and had almost all the views of Christ when he was alive, they had very negligible contribution to the churches growth, but Paul that didn’t see Jesus did.

Peter said some of Paul's writings are "hard to understand" therefore some ignorant people twist it to their own destruction. Where did "Alfa Sule" now see where Peter was condemning Paul's writings, or is his Bible different from ours? Some pastors say anything they like because they know their congregation don't read the bible, so they wouldn't know if the pastor is saying what is right or not.
Re: Apostle Suleman Didn't Hear From Jesus by Ken4Christ: 4:15pm On Feb 21
JobZoneNews:



Very interesting. I ll investigate further to see. Thank you for pointing attention to this. But I ll still check this out because the Apostle is a highly reverered preacher.

Sure. I know. But we have a responsibility to save the church from such grave error. I listened to him very carefully.

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