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Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by SoNature(m): 7:04am On Mar 05 |
adamusuleiman1: What Peter Obi said is the fact. Quality education isn't cheap anywhere in the world. Check how much schools in the UK, USA, Canada and Australia charge in tuition fees and compare that to those of Nigerian schools. Some UK universities charge up to £30k per annum. That's 54 million naira per year. Education isn't meant for poor people. That's why in those countries, their people borrow money to go to school and pay back later when they start working. In Nigeria, it's funny that universities increased their tuition fees to 100k per semester and students are all over the place protesting. We pay peanuts for half-baked education and still wonder why Nigerian graduates are not employable. Keep deceiving yourself. |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by michlins(m): 7:15am On Mar 05 |
Lifestone:honestly I don't know how you people think. Put politics aside and see his statement from the point of economics. Nigerians can not afford such infrastructure. What percentage of the masses go to such vacations you mentioned abroad? Take away the political exposed persons, how many people can afford such vacations? This is a country where 100ml are living below poverty line and many are still joining the number on a daily. The percentage of Nigerians with 500k savings will shock you terribly. You read when the minister of finance talked about it two weeks ago. Build your masses, provide basic infrastructure like road, rails, hospital and most importantly power and access to credit facilities for industries. In twenty years time, these structures will naturally spring up through the private sector and the masses will be able to afford it comfortably. When such is done, government will sit back and tax the hell out of the masses which will make them be able to expand their own investments. This is why high IGR doesn't really move someone like me. Government is not in the business of making profits but to uplift the people. For a country like ours, what government needs to do is lift as much people as possible into wealth before raising taxes. Even developed economies like UK sometimes drop the taxes so to lubricate the economy |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Cassandraloius: 7:31am On Mar 05 |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by talk2hb1(m): 7:54am On Mar 05 |
Rantingpiglets: Success of Tinapa is a joy to all of us. |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 8:00am On Mar 05 |
Lifestone:How many Nigerian tourist are there give me numbers |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 8:02am On Mar 05 |
adamusuleiman1:Education has never been for the poor bever n never will Quality education must cost u something |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 8:04am On Mar 05 |
Phineky:Building rail n malls with loans is the issue |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Golan007: 8:54am On Mar 05 |
SoNature: Basic education is free in UK/USA. 1 Like |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Golan007: 8:55am On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis: Shatap. It is free in UK. 2 Likes |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Noneroone(m): 9:30am On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis:Pls what is the "rubbish" otti wants to build in Abia? Did you say you don't develop by building infrastructure? |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by RepoMan007: 9:43am On Mar 05 |
Instead of building things that can cater for necessities, they prefer flashy things of little value. Nigerians spend 60% of income on food and not one tourism or vacation resort. |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Eecho(m): 10:01am On Mar 05 |
Sannisege:Don’t call a man who is better than your daddy and mummy a fraudd. |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 10:01am On Mar 05 |
Noneroone: Yes sir you don't develop by building infrastructure you develop by improving the average earnings of your people When your people are rich enough, infrastructure would naturally follow as they would pay enough tax to easily build needed infrastructure |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 10:02am On Mar 05 |
Golan007:Lmao education is free in the UK? Who told you that lie Even in Norway, Germany and the rest where it's free your tax is over 50% |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Golan007: 10:36am On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis: Shatap. Education is free up to secondary level in UK. I'm sure you've neither been to Norway nor Germany. |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 11:22am On Mar 05 |
Golan007:And what's the average tax paid in the UK |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Miracle120: 11:44am On Mar 05 |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Noneroone(m): 12:12pm On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis:how exactly do you "improve the average earnings of your people"? |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 12:24pm On Mar 05 |
Noneroone:Providing cheap and easily accessible credit for businesses SMEs to access use to expand and grow As thru grow they employ more and pay more This is what obi has been saying |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by FreeStuffsNG: 1:11pm On Mar 05 |
immortalcrown:Nigeria happened to Lagos Blue and Red train lines . Nigeria happened to Dangote Refinery, Nigeria happened to even the New Arrival/,Departure terminal in Lagos airport, Second Niger Bridge etc. What happened in Tinapa is that Cross Rivers happened to it, South South Happened to it like the Port Harcourt monorail that end in the middle of the air and people now use ladder to access it. That you or your state or geopolitical zone does not finish well everything you start does not mean Nigeria. Look into the mirror and tell yourself the truth, you are not truthful 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Draslo(m): 1:23pm On Mar 05 |
Rantingpiglets:You are a sad, uninformed, little man 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Noneroone(m): 1:31pm On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis:it is very easy to dismiss the 'mob' tag given to you obidients. But every now and then you keep proving people right for calling you that. A mob completely lacking in tact, information, intellect and ideas, and only good at social media ramblings and intimidation cannot produce anything good. Aside bringing Igbos under one umbrella, obidient movement is one of the worst things that ever happened to Igbos. Imagine an adult who apparently attended a higher institution saying that provision of infrastructure does not bring development. Have you not heard of critical infrastructure since you were born? Your silly SME idea is going to run on generator? You see why even the sensible people call you mobs? What leapfrogs a people into achieving there full potential are ideas incubation, hardwork with skills, and critical infrastructure. Provision of infrastructure where there are no idea incubation and hardwork is a waste just like in the case of Akwa Ibom. On the other hand, funding businesses when there is not infrastructure like power, rail and roads, Ports and harbours means nothing because the cost of running business is still high and as such, your global competitiveness will remain low. The biggest hindrance to development in Igboland is infrastructure. You cannot grow your economy if you don't export. You cannot export if your production cost isn't lower than that of your target market. It is the availability of critical infrastructure that reduces production cost. Critical Infrastructure also attracts investors from elsewhere. You guys are ridiculous. Peter Obi your mentor did nothing except quack economics. No investment in power, Rail transport, airport. Even the SMEs were frustrated by taxes and levies. In the twilight of his eight years, he started dashing out one million naira to first class graduates from Anambra. What did he achieve? You think white-washing him will save him from political oblivion which he is already into? A governor with vision plans to create an enabling environment for an industrial hub and you call it "rubbish" Do you think you are not an enemy of progress? Obidients indeed! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Beverlyjean(f): 1:36pm On Mar 05 |
Rantingpiglets: Part of the reason why they are unity beggars 1 Like |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 1:36pm On Mar 05 |
Noneroone:Firstly I have ran a factory for 6 years, and I have never been connected to nepa.. It runs on diesel... There is little or no advantage of using national grid over your own generator Problem with you guys us you don't think, you don't read, you don't research You don't create and industrial hub by building trains with borrowed money... How many free trade zones do we have in Nigeria... Why are they empty? Aba it's what it is today not because of government but because of a group called People's club of Nigeria who decides to invest in the people by training and settling them Yes I know it's completely over your head to comprehend I get not everyone is smart enough Infrastructure is good sure but borrowing money to build infrastructure is suicide you would never recover from the poverty trap ... That's exactly how Africa got this poor |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Golan007: 1:45pm On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis: You are a blockhead 2 Likes |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Noneroone(m): 2:13pm On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis:You can borrow to invest in infrastructure if you are sure it would yield returns. The key word is critical infrastructure. It means the most needed infrastructure like power supply. This is why I say development cannot be separated from ideas. Sam Mbakwe is an example. Most developed nations are big borrowers. Africa is not poor because of debt rather because of lack of ideas and corruption. Peter didn't borrow because he was prudent but because he lacked ideas. you are totally a confused fellow. Do more learning that airing your opinions because they are ridiculous. Power supply and critical infrastructure are no longer important because Peter Obi your mentor failed woefully there. You are using your failed none-existent factory as example. No serious manufacturing activity can be powered profitably by generating set, never! Even the agbados are better than you guys. Tribalism is there goal but you guys have no aspirations except Twitter ramblings. Go and read about the belt and roads initiative from China and how they plan through it to overtake US economy by investing in infrastructure. This is why China is the west's biggest nightmare economically. Go and sleep. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 2:45pm On Mar 05 |
Noneroone: Africans want to do what developed nations are doing... Instead of doing what they did when they where in our stage of development You don't need national grid electricity to industrialize at all go and look at what caused each of the industrial revolution those are what you need Machines, gas, and internet that's all with gas any serious company can produce electricity cheaper than national grid ... I have proven this in my factory over and over I have debated here on naira land... Yet people who don't own a business think you need power you don't If the infrastructure is needed and their is a market for it the private sector can come in and build |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by sunboy(m): 3:06pm On Mar 05 |
adamusuleiman1: We know Obi is a chameleon and a pretender… and this is why his indomie followers who saw him as a messiah are not worth arguing with. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Noneroone(m): 3:28pm On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis:go and learn and stop disgracing you self further. "Infrastructure is not needed" "if infrastructure is needed private sector will build all" all coming from you. Private sector will build public infrastructure but government will collect taxes from the public. Then use it for what? Most things needing power supply has a different price list when done with generating set. Be it making hair for women, barbing for men, fashion designing, name them. Talk more of heavy manufacturing which cannot even operate at all. How can you compete with such difficult condition? Transport infrastructure is the basis of regional economic integration and harnessing of comparative advantage. Go and study Rwanda and it's growth. Study Dubai and study the Egypt's Suez canal economic zone. Infrastructure is like a grease to the wheel of economic development. In a world where investors lurk around. All you need is to birth an idea, convince investors about its viability based on availability of infrastructure, with time you get a global brand. That's how Twitter was born. Not your senseless SME. This is why Peter Obi is hated by all his predecessors including Ngige, Soludo and the very Obiano that succeed him. He is a lousy thinker with a few vociferous but incredibly senseless followers. Their losing streak in politics best explains this. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 3:58pm On Mar 05 |
Noneroone:Infrastructure doesn't cause development Infrastructure comes as a symptom of development Another thing is you don't grow by allowing foreign investors in to your country You grow by supporting local industries to become multinationals I get this things are difficult for u to get Akwa ibom have one of the best infrastructures in Nigeria yet is depends on Abia with one of the worse infrastructure in the old eastern Region... This is enough to prove my point |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by Noneroone(m): 5:32pm On Mar 05 |
mrvitalis:Since Akwa Ibom has infrastructure, it can be said to be showing symptoms of development? I advise you to cool down because your brain is overheating. Another thing is you don't grow by allowing foreign investors in to your countrycan you tell me one country that grew without foreign investment? You seem to enjoy making reckless academic statements you can't defend. Jewish investment made US a global powerhouse after the second world war. US investment reinvented Japan after same war. China opened up it's economy to welcome transformation, while Jewish diaspora made Israel. Whether a US based Abia native built a factory in Aba or a white American built same factory, they are all classed as " foreign investment". Foreign investment matters too but local investors must take the lead to competitively keep foreigners in check and conserve national values. The job of government is to Keep the enabling environment for all to thrive by providing critical infrastructure. If the economy thrives, financial institutions will be better positioned to provide loan facilities for start ups. Government should not provide loans for business. Government is not a business venture. You grow by supporting local industries to become multinationalsyou support local industries by making it very easy for them to produce and facilitate export. You do this by building seaport, power plants, Rail networks and tax relief as encouragement. When they export and interact with the global peers, they learn more ideas. With time they grow beyond national boundary and become a multinationals. You don't hand them 💰 money without creating a conductive environment. That is a global principle known to all except for some radicalized Obidient mob. Nigeria has all the oil in the world but without the critical infrastructure called refinery. The cost of producing refined oil went high. That is why fuel isn't affordable to Nigerians and crude oil isn't profitable for export. This is what absence of infrastructure can cause. A vibrant rail system means that product from the north will reach target markets in the south within hours and vice versa. This is what keeps an economy running. I get this things are difficult for u to getswallow your pride and get some education. If there is a little more of people with your line of thought in the East, then, there is a very serious problem. Akwa ibom have one of the best infrastructures in Nigeria yet is depends on Abia with one of the worse infrastructure in the old eastern Region... This is enough to prove my pointEmpty brain feeding me back with the same Akwa Ibom example I gave him. Akwa Ibom failed because there is no incubation of ideas, skills and hardwork like I said before. Even if you dash them 100 million each they'll waste it on carnival. A man without vision sees money as luxury while a man with ideas will see Same money as capital. They lack human capital and infrastructure there can't help them. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Inside The $350 Million Abandoned TINAPA RESORT! What Has Changed In 2024 by mrvitalis(m): 7:07pm On Mar 05 |
Noneroone:Bros ok when u govern your state borrow n invest in fine infrastructure Leave me alone |
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