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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by sterlingD(m): 4:37pm On Mar 15
ppogba:


It's not the CBN that releases the results. It is the banks that releases them ONLY after approval by the CBN.

The results are due already as they are close to the mandatory 90 days permissible after the YE.

We are almost in the middle of march and this is when the FUGAZ normally release their own.

CBN is just re-emphasizing.

The banks sit on the financial year end result and forward to CBN for scrutiny before It is being released.Let me give a live example right now UBA has sat on their results and forwarded it to CBN since last month so also ACCESS and others.
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Fearurcreeator: 4:43pm On Mar 15
BarrElChapo:


You sound smart writing rubbish 😂
Lolzzzz.... You don't like what he said cus it's like he is defending the government... Oloriburuk** ni yin se

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by ppogba: 4:44pm On Mar 15
sterlingD:


The banks sit on the financial year end result and forward to CBN for scrutiny before It is being released.Let me give a live example right now UBA has sat on their results and forwarded it to CBN since last month so also ACCESS and others.

What do you mean by sit on?

Do you know how long it takes the CBN to do it's review before approval?

The UBA and Access you gave as examples, do you know how long it takes for them to gather the items needed for the YE results together?

YE results of MFBs sef no be moi moi mich less the big banks Oga. Take that for free. And you are not talking to a novice by the way.

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by PHAYOL81: 4:49pm On Mar 15
I'm in full support of this policy.

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Fearurcreeator: 5:07pm On Mar 15
benuejosh:
say your own that you know Adamu.
He no get he for don talk am... Yeye people

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Fearurcreeator: 5:07pm On Mar 15
ppogba:


This is the type of topic that show the level of ignorance on this platform.
Aswear
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by sterlingD(m): 5:15pm On Mar 15
ppogba:


What do you mean by sit on?

Do you know how long it takes the CBN to do it's review before approval?

The UBA and Access you gave as examples, do you know how long it takes for them to gather the items needed for the YE results together?

YE results of MFBs sef no be moi moi mich less the big banks Oga. Take that for free. And you are not talking to a novice by the way.

The companies release quarterly financial statements which is standard practice so it is not that difficult to collate full year end result by year end.

Note some of the companies are under the supervision of regulatory bodies who granted and gave them licence to operate

For example the commercial banks given licence by CBN and insurance companies by the insurance regularly body so they don't just release any how result that affect investors (both local and foreign) confidence.

There is a thread on Nigeria stock exchange on nairaland in which comments and contributions on the dynamics of stock trading and behaviours of stocks of companies on the stock market are discussed https://www.nairaland.com/1131485/nigerian-stock-exchange-market-pick/7659#128943818

View the image below example for UBA, Zenith,Access and Gtb for year end 2023

For more information visit and follow the site all newsletter for companies listed on the Nigeria stock exchange..
https://ngxgroup.com/exchange/data/corporate-disclosures/

Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by egojeny1(f): 5:19pm On Mar 15
sterlingD:


I am suspecting that CBN is about to release the submitted Audited Financial Statements 2023 results for all the bank and so they are re-emphasizing it.
Exactly. Might start rolling in by month end. Me I can't wait for my dividends o, UBA precisely
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Alaigbo(m): 5:25pm On Mar 15
You will wait till eternity for that. Now imagine while you wait to see tribalistic agbado die instead they are flourishing while tribalistic obidient mother's are selling your first sons to eat across the globe, just few days ago obidient father deat one of his son to death because of leftover. Many obidient will perish like infested wretched cursed pigs from the pits of hell before a single agbado will die.


Paulruth:
Make all the tribalistic Agbados die. I can't wait 😀🤣

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Alaigbo(m): 5:33pm On Mar 15
While you sound foolish knowing that you are an exceedingly foolish soul with no knowledge or intelligence about the discuss.

BarrElChapo:


You sound smart writing rubbish 😂

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by fawaz050(m): 6:13pm On Mar 15
Validated:
Is CBN confused?

CBN should also tell us if such revaluation can be reported as profits (extraordinary gains).

Would CBN be prevailing on FIRS to exempt those profits from Companies Income Tax?

Would CBN have asked the banks to create a revaluation loss account if the reverse was the case or would they have been asked to write-off such losses?.




Your last question is what CBN is trying to resolve. It's saying

1. Reclassify your foreign exchange gains during the year as part of other reserves.

2. In a year where you make loss on foreign exchange movements (rare for banks), reclassify it back to P or L to write down or [if possible] write off the foreign exchange loss.

This scenario is more like the revaluation method under IAS 16.

It's a good in my opinion. It will partially discourage banks from excessively hoarding USD to drive up rates, thereby resulting in exorbitant gains for them.

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by allthingsgood: 6:26pm On Mar 15
Validated:
Is CBN confused?

CBN should also tell us if such revaluation can be reported as profits (extraordinary gains).

Would CBN be prevailing on FIRS to exempt those profits from Companies Income Tax?

Would CBN have asked the banks to create a revaluation loss account if the reverse was the case or would they have been asked to write-off such losses?


Is it till the whole country crumbles to pieces that you people will be happy
Must banks always look for every loophole to cash out, at the expense of the economy?

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by BetterKola: 7:23pm On Mar 15
fawaz050:


Your last question is what CBN is trying to resolve. It's saying

1. Reclassify your foreign exchange gains during the year as part of other reserves.

2. In a year where you make loss on foreign exchange movements (rare for banks), reclassify it back to P or L to write down or [if possible] write off the foreign exchange loss.

This scenario is more like the revaluation method under IAS 16.

It's a good in my opinion. It will partially discourage banks from excessively hoarding USD to drive up rates, thereby resulting in exorbitant gains for them.

Exactly.... CBN is definitely using methodology of revaluation gain or loss in this circular.

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by nedekid: 7:36pm On Mar 15
benuejosh:
Very good.

I think our monetary body is getting it right gradually. Allow the FX market to be stable. What gains have you made in Naira, let the Naira pick up by creating the demand for it.

Banks post huge financial gains yet low economic activity to help boost our local economy. The gains comes majorly from FX gains. Since you made the gains from FX, allow it to be there and don't touch it let us see what the Naira side is for you. Let the FX market stay untouched and if you can't use the naira to pay then push for activities that will yield more naira for you. Give loans to customer in Naira to carry out businesses and bring profit for you and themselves. Let that demand for Naira be there.
Hmm, so you get small sense, abi person write am for you?
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by teejoyz: 9:47pm On Mar 15
I don't know what IFRS that banks are using but according to the standard, revaluation gain can only be recognized in the comprehensive income which will form part of equity. So it can never be used as dividend.
U can only recognize revaluation loss in the income statement.
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by 79733139(m): 10:25pm On Mar 15
Hopefully this move would strengthen the Naira. It doesn't matter who you support, the free-fall of the Naira is affecting everyone.

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Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by 2mch(m): 10:31pm On Mar 15
teejoyz:
I don't know what IFRS that banks are using but according to the standard, revaluation gain can only be recognized in the comprehensive income which will form part of equity. So it can never be used as dividend.
U can only recognize revaluation loss in the income statement.
It’s not Revaluation gain but Realized Gain which is part of Revenue on the income statement. It is classified under Other Income, olodo rabata.
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by ifechukwu736: 10:55pm On Mar 15
say your own that you know Adamu.say your own that you know Adamu....
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by okposm: 12:05am On Mar 16
Validated:
Is CBN confused?

CBN should also tell us if such revaluation can be reported as profits (extraordinary gains).

Would CBN be prevailing on FIRS to exempt those profits from Companies Income Tax?

Would CBN have asked the banks to create a revaluation loss account if the reverse was the case or would they have been asked to write-off such losses?

not all revaluation gains are taxed. only the realised ones are taxed. the unrealised ones will be used in computing deferred tax. Again since fx is not their main source of income, they have every write to stop them from paying dividends from income not sustainable and can be catatrosphic in future
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Paulruth: 7:12am On Mar 16
Alaigbo:
You will wait till eternity for that. Now imagine while you wait to see tribalistic agbado die instead they are flourishing while tribalistic obidient mother's are selling your first sons to eat across the globe, just few days ago obidient father deat one of his son to death because of leftover. Many obidient will perish like infested wretched cursed pigs from the pits of hell before a single agbado will die. MUMU in capital 😂🤣. Everyone is Obidient to you idiots. I supported Atiku in the last election but as usual you agbado slaves can't even dare to mention your Master's names 😀


Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by Paulruth: 7:12am On Mar 16
Alaigbo:
You will wait till eternity for that. Now imagine while you wait to see tribalistic agbado die instead they are flourishing while tribalistic obidient mother's are selling your first sons to eat across the globe, just few days ago obidient father deat one of his son to death because of leftover. Many obidient will perish like infested wretched cursed pigs from the pits of hell before a single agbado will die.


MUMU in capital 😂🤣. Everyone is Obidient to you idiots. I supported Atiku in the last election but as usual you agbado slaves can't even dare to mention your Master's names 😀
Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by sterlingD(m): 10:07am On Mar 16
ppogba:


What do you mean by sit on?

Do you know how long it takes the CBN to do it's review before approval?

The UBA and Access you gave as examples, do you know how long it takes for them to gather the items needed for the YE results together?

YE results of MFBs sef no be moi moi mich less the big banks Oga. Take that for free. And you are not talking to a novice by the way.

sterlingD:

FCMB and Fidelity year end 2023 gotten from
https://ngxgroup.com/exchange/data/corporate-disclosures/

Re: CBN Insists Banks Can’t Pay Dividends From FX Revaluation Gains by 729aleeza: 2:18pm On Mar 16
AlrightAlright...

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