paxonel:

Conviction is personal.
If you are not the person that is convinced you can't track it
You can't pin it down
You can only assume.
And your assumption can never be right about the person because the human mind is dynamic in thinking.

And moreover, you can't tell a 6 years old child to explain what he believe.
With what words can he possibly use to do the explanation?

He has believe, that is the most important thing

If you can't convince others over what Jesus said then you're not competent enough to be a disciple of Christ! Act 17:3
Politicians often hire motivational speakers to convince people to vote for them such a speaker will be prepared to explain to the details everything you need to know or ask about the candidate he's speaking for.
For your information that's exactly the same thing a Christian should be able to do when it comes to preaching about Jesus of Nazareth!

Yes, I'm still waiting, where is the scripture Veecruz, lers see who is the Lier? ;

As for that one called Michael 547 that i ignored,I just dey laff am
You better follow and see how this Veezruz fellow knows nothing about the bible.

You people think religion is a straight line gragh?
Una go confuse

paxonel:
do you have any scriptural reference in support of this?

Romans 2:14 KJV: For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law,

And you already know that by nature, when you have been forgiven once, you put yourself in serious risk and jeopardy when you do the very things for which you have been forgiven as like the wicked servant.

paxonel:
Yes, I'm still waiting, where is the scripture Veecruz, lers see who is the Lier? ;

As for that one called Michael 547 that i ignored,I just dey laff am
You better follow and see how this Veezruz fellow knows nothing about the bible.

You people think religion is a straight line gragh?
Una go confuse

Truth is clear, precise and stable it is,.lies and
Liars and lies who need confusion which is why it is said

Truth exists; lies are invented. Georges Braque

Veecruz:


Romans 2:14 KJV: For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law,

This scripture you quoted is not saying that a Christian can exhaust and used up this grace through Christ.
It is simply saying that when the gentiles who do not have the law but keep the law by nature

And you already know that by nature, when you have been forgiven once, you put yourself in serious risk and jeopardy when you do the very things for which you have been forgiven as like the wicked servant.

all these things you are saying is according to the law.

What i have been saying all these while has nothing to do with the law.
I have been saying that we are saved through Grace which is in Christ Jesus, is that too difficult to understand?

So why are you now bringing the law into it?

paxonel:
This scripture you quoted is not saying that a Christian can exhaust and used up this grace through Christ....

all these things you are saying is according to the law.

What i have been saying all these while has nothing to do with the law.

The quote shows that Nature shows The Law and every thing in this world is all UNDER LAW!

Grace is Law in motion exactly how punishment for sin is Law in motion

Everything is under Law

MaxInDHouse:

If you can't convince others over what Jesus said then you're not competent enough to be a disciple of Christ! Act 17:3
Politicians often hire motivational speakers to convince people to vote for them such a speaker will be prepared to explain to the details everything you need to know or ask about the candidate he's speaking for.
For your information that's exactly the same thing a Christian should be able to do when it comes to preaching about Jesus of Nazareth!

unfortunately, not all Christians are motivational speakers

Veecruz:


The quote shows that Nature shows The Law and every thing in this world is all UNDER LAW!

Is Christ under the law?
Or let's put it this way is Grace under the law?

Michael547 or michael Smith, come and see this one o

paxonel:
Is Christ under the law?

Told you before, The Law is the servant of its Maker.and therefore only works only on those who are less than it and under it.

And that is why The Law of sinking in water did not hold Christ nor The Law of gravity when He ascended to heaven nor The Law of death when He entered it and came out by Himself, wothout anyone praying for Him as Elijah and Elisha did to others.

So, Christ is above The Law because He is The LawMaker, which you see no other person was able to these things because, everyonelse in the world is under The Law!

And i have already shown you that Grace is the Application of Law. Grace is Law in Motion!

Veecruz:


Told you before, The Law is the servant of its Maker.and therefore only works only on those who are less than it and under it.

you see now, you don carry yourself by yourself and with your hands go put for tight Conner with your lies and confusion

And that is why The Law of sinking in water did not hold Christ nor The Law of gravity when He ascended to heaven nor The Law of death when He entered it and came out by Himself, wothout anyone praying for Him as Elijah and Elisha did to others.
So, Christ is above The Law because He is The LawMaker, which you see no other person was able to these things because, everyonelse in the world is under The Law!

So, your final answer is, Christ is not under law?
Good!

And i have already shown you that Grace is the Application of Law. Grace is Law in Motion!

How come that the Grace Jesus pronounced to the thief that he will be with him in paradise was not given to the thief but rather, he was killed by the law since you say Grace is law in motion ?

Luke 23:43

paxonel:
you see now, you don carry yourself by yourself and with your hands go put for tight Conner with your lies and confusion
So, your final answer is, Christ is not under law?
Good!
How come that the Grace Jesus pronounced to the thief that he will be with him in paradise was not given to the thief but rather, he was killed by the law since you say Grace is law in motion ?
Luke 23:43

Of course you do not see The Law was also there and was operating in that case.

The thief did many Lawful things on that cross as his last act and did not die in sin as you think. Rather he died doing good and even died doing good not to a man or a prophet were his reward is from the prophet but he did it to God!

The thief gave justice where Jesus got injustice. He gave light while Jesus was plunged into darkness He condemned the evil while honouring and respecting the good which he openly declared that Jesus did.

Therefore the thief did The Law in that he did to another, that which should be done to him.

Thus, he did the good, and a good that was even done and given to The Lord Hinself, and not just to any Obi, Tinubu or Atiku, but The Lord Himself, therefore as The Law hath Said, good must be done to him, according to The Law!

Law Beginning, Law Ending!

So nothing for you, and you shall have no rest nor peace no matter how much you invoke self deceit, for there is no rest for Liars nor is there any place for a Lie to stand. For The Law Always Rules and Rules Absolutely!

Veecruz:


Of course you do not see The Law was also there and was operating in that case.

The thief did many Lawful things on that cross as his last act and did not die in sin as you think. Rather he died doing good and even died doing good not to a man or a prophet were his reward is from the prophet but he did it to God!

The thief gave justice where Jesus got injustice. He gave light while Jesus was plunged into darkness He condemned the evil while honouring and respecting the good which he openly declared that Jesus did.

Therefore the thief did The Law in that he did to another, that which should be done to him.

Thus, he did the good, and a good that was even done and given to The Lord Hinself, and not just to any Obi, Tinubu or Atiku, but The Lord Himself, therefore as The Law hath Said, good must be done to him, according to The Law!

Law Beginning, Law Ending!

So nothing for you, and you shall have no rest nor peace no matter how much you invoke self deceit, for there is no rest for Liars nor is there any place for a Lie to stand. For The Law Always Rules and Rules Absolutely!

Ok, I'm done with you

paxonel:

Ok, I'm done with you

Of course, i was done with you even before now.especially as no one can counter.

paxonel:

unfortunately, not all Christians are motivational speakers

That's true because we all have different gifts but when asked to speak about our beliefs all Christians have what it takes to explain themselves {Luke 12:12} even though we have different gifts! 1Corinthians 12:4; Ephesians 4:11

Yes