Andre Uweh:

At the moment, the Obi and Ugbodu people are Igbo.
The progenitor of the Yorubas-Oduduwa came from the middle east, but today Yorubas are not Arabs. Isn't it?.
@Ah Harem.

Nwanne Andre, you are the one talking like this. Of course I am not trying to claim. This Might be the missing connection between the yoruba and igbo.

About Oduduwa migrating from the middle east, That is bullshiiiit. Oduduwa probably came from somewhere propbable a neighbouring kingdom not the middle-east.

mbatuku2:

What do you know about Nri Igbos? I'm sure you are not aware of the westward movement of the proto-Igbo groups during their expansion in the first millenium. Anyway, you are just as clueless as ever. I dont know why a half-wit turns himself into an expert in Igbo affairs.

so Igbos moved westward. Point taken.

Chyz*:

Stop trying to make sense out of nonsense. Your write up is rubbish.

About your jaja oo opobo example, haha! The same goes for yorubas. How do you know you are not all Igbos unless there is documentation handed to you by the hospital? this question is for the once not born in the bush.

Write up is rubbish because someone said yoruba community in delta state ?

What a shame.

Chyz*:

Where did he say he is yoruba? I'm still waiting.

He does not need to say it. Its called an implicit message. But one thing is certain, they are not Igbos and are trying their best to preserve their Olukumi-Owo culture. Olukumi means nothing in Igbo but means my friend in Yoruba. Go figure.

The day a sovereign national conference happen in Nigeria (a honest one), that will be the day people will know the truth.

I'm done.

alj_harem:

Write up is rubbish because someone said yoruba community in delta state ?

What a shame.

That's the thing! Isn't it sad?

alj_harem:

since you know that, don't you think that if you hate a yoruba person, don't you think you are only hating your half brother ?

How would you know his mother is not igbo or father igbo ?

We can extend this to the olden days when cultures were not defined yet

Take a look at Jaja of Opobo, if not for documentation, would you know he was igbo in an ijaw settlement ?

Documentation aside, the people of Opobo has maintained cultural and lineage relationship with the people of Amaigbo for over 120 years now. I learnt that until recently, the people of Amaigbo-Jaja's original home in Orlu division do not intermarry with the people of Opobo because they are same.
Delegates from Opobo are always present whenever an Eze is crowned in Amaigbo.

Andre Uweh:

Documentation aside, the people of Opobo has maintained cultural and lineage relationship with the people of Amaigbo for over 120 years now. I learnt that until recently, the people of Amaigbo-Jaja's original home in Orlu division do not intermarry with the people of Opobo because they are same.
Delegates from Opobo are always present whenever an Eze is crowned in Amaigbo.

Good to know.

jason123:

He does not need to say it. Its called an implicit message. But one thing is certain, they are not Igbos and are trying their best to preserve their Olukumi-Owo culture. Olukumi means nothing in Igbo but means my friend in Yoruba. Go figure.

The day a sovereign national conference happen in Nigeria (a honest one), that will be the day people will know the truth.

I'm done.

You are funny. Win ondo call themselves olukumi? Who told you that that name was not given to them? lol. They are also called oluku mu. Since you now know how to speak Igbo tell me what that means?

They are Igbos,period. They are in Igboland as well. Thank you.

And yes, the Obi never said he is yoruba.

Abagworo:

I was the 1st to post this story. The truth is that the post civil war trauma has persisted and is still being fueled by non-Igbos. Many Yorubas have Igbo roots, Many Esans have Igbo roots, Many Igbos have Benin roots, many Urhobos have Igbo roots, most of the people called Ijaws in Rivers State have Igbo roots and still retain pure Igbo language as their only language.

All these claims I made above have oral and documented history. There is however a pattern when it comes to Igbo, there seems to be a movement to alienate some Igbos from others with a presumed reason of origin. No ethnic group can be pure.

Shango go kill u for dis statement. Olorun Ma je! for where?

Chyz*:

You are funny. Win ondo call themselves olukumi? Who told you that that name was not given to them? lol. They are also called oluku mu. Since you now know how to speak Igbo tell me what that means?

They are Igbos,period. They are in Igboland as well. Thank you.

And yes, the Obi never said he is yoruba.

How are they in Igboland ?

In fact why am I even posting to an angry bigot

If they change the "i" to "a" making it Oba, what are you going to do about it ? Kill the Olukumis ?

Kingship title does not matter, Oba is or less a bini word, Yoruba use mainly Ooni so clam down

lagcity:

Shango go kill u for dis statement. Olorun Ma je! for where?

shango would not kill anyone.

Why can't yorubas have igbo blood ?

Chyz*:

You are funny. Win ondo call themselves olukumi? Who told you that that name was not given to them? lol. They are also called oluku mu. Since you now know how to speak Igbo tell me what that means?

They are Igbos,period. They are in Igboland as well. Thank you.

And yes, the Obi never said he is yoruba.

You are unserious. The Obi said where his people are from. Why are you saying they are Igbo (although the Igbos have greatly influenced their culture ) when they are not? What Igbo land? Are you high? Well, whatever mehn. . . .

Andre Uweh:

At the moment, the Obi and Ugbodu people are Igbo.
The progenitor of the Yorubas-Oduduwa came from the middle east, but today Yorubas are not Arabs. Isn't it?.
@Ah Harem.

stop yarning trash u don't know. Oduduwa came from wherever he came from and met Yorubas in Yorubaland. We have nothing in common with Arabs!

jason123:

You are unserious. The Obi said where his people are from. Why are you saying they are Igbo (although the Igbos have greatly influenced their culture ) when they are not? What Igbo land? Are you high? Well, whatever mehn. . . .

Funny chap. What Igbo land? The igbo land that is in northern Osun state.

lagcity:

stop yarning trash u don't know. Oduduwa came from wherever he came from and met Yorubas in Yorubaland. We have nothing in common with Arabs!

Dude, that is what your people same.HE is from Arab land. So your are no longer Omo(child of) Oduduwa?

Chyz*:

Funny chap. What Igbo land? The igbo land that is in northern Osun state.

If there is an Igbo dialect north of Osun, then tell us. It would be interesting to know about them.

alj_harem:

How are they in Igboland ?

In fact why am I even posting to an angry bigot

If they change the "i" to "a" making it Oba, what are you going to do about it ? Kill the Olukumis ?

Kingship title does not matter, Oba is or less a bini word, Yoruba use mainly Ooni so clam down

Nope. There's only one Ooni in Yorubaland. Others are Obas.

lagcity:

Nope. There's only one Ooni in Yorubaland. Others are Obas.

Ooni sabe of sabe

Ooni Popo of Popo

Ooni ketu of Ketu

etc nko ? I guess Oba is used by both Bini and yorubas then

Chyz*:

Dude, that is what your people same.HE is from Arab land. So your are no longer Omo(child of) Oduduwa?

Yes, we are omo Oduduwa who was not an Arab .

alj_harem:

Ooni sabe of sabe

Ooni Popo of Popo

Ooni ketu of Ketu

etc nko ? I guess Oba is used by both Bini and yorubas then

ah ah. Now I know that you are a Kanuri man. You haven't got Yoruba language down pat. Ooni is not the same thing as Oni, the latter means "owner."

lagcity:

Yes, we are omo Oduduwa who was not an Arab .

How can you be omo oduduwa when he came to meet you? Your people are really funny and confused at times.

mbatuku2:

How can you be omo oduduwa when he came to meet you? Your people are really funny and confused at times.

I don't think Oduduwa came from middle east as some historians would say.

the confusion started from people finding similarity between yoruba and arabic.

mbatuku2:

How can you be omo oduduwa when he came to meet you? Your people are really funny and confused at times.

That is it. Well done.

mbatuku2:

How can you be omo oduduwa when he came to meet you? Your people are really funny and confused at times.

You are an ibo, u can't understand becos u ppl think in literal terms. We can also decide to call ourselves Omo Awolowo or Omo Fela Kuti but that doesn't mean they are the first Yoruba to walk the planet, it has more to do with influence. duhh.

lagcity:

You are an ibo, u can't understand becos u ppl think in literal terms. We can also decide to call ourselves Omo Awolowo or Omo Fela Kuti but that doesn't mean they are the first Yoruba to walk the planet, it has more to do with influence. duhh.

You are so funny.

^^^^
Thank You, Omo Ojukwu

alj_harem:

I don't think Oduduwa came from middle east as some historians would say.

the confusion started from people finding similarity between yoruba and arabic.

It is good to admit that there is confusion in Yoruba history of origin.

Al harem

there is no missing link between yoruba and igbos.

Like i pointed out before, the itsekiri are a well known yoruboid tribe from the same state.

The origins of the lukumis have been explained times without number so there's no need to keep rehashing the story endlessly.

I've heard of yoruba speaking deltans ages ago- i just didnt consider it that big of a deal and neither do the people in question, to the best of my knowledge.

If anything at all,why not keep the topic on the other thread about it which you opened some time ago.

documentation from the hospital is what makes someone yoruba?


anyway, i thought i left a post here for al harem, cant seem to find it or did i not click the post button.

Andre Uweh:

It is good to admit that there is confusion in Yoruba history of origin.

Use your brain. There's no confusion about Yoruba origin; there is "confusion" (if you choose to call it that) about where a certain man named Oduduwa came from. Oduduwa is one person and not entire Yoruba. Hopefully you understand the difference .

did the spambot get chyz post which i was responding to?

and my own post which i was looking for, magically reappeared or is it me.