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All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 10:51pm On Dec 22, 2011
Dear Fellow Dealers and Nairalanders,
  I want to share my experience in pre-ordering a SUV for a Client Today as no knowledge is lost and i believe at the end of my story we will all learn 1 or 2 things pre-ordering a Car from USA.
 
I have been buying Cars from USA both on Auction and directly from dealers in USA and after every deal I always have something to learn. I set out looking for 06 Honda Pilot V6 and 4WD {picture below} for a Client who have never met. I came across one that fits my client budget and exactly the Color he desire. I in conjunction with my agent in USA finalized the deal and ready for Purchase of the lover bird below.

Dealer requested for a deposit claiming the SUV might be sold anytime soon but as our Policy, any Car/SUV above $5000 will be inspected before Purchase. I did Vin-Check which checks out,1 Owner and SUV qualify for buyback protection. My agent drove almost 5hrs to Inspect the SUV in another state and what was discovered with the performance of the engine was nothing to write home about.

Lesson 1: We should not only rely on Vehicle Carfax as we always ignore something boldly written on every Carfax which says "Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck". If a Car was involved in an Accident and nothing is reported to relevant Authorities {DMVA and the likes} nothing will show on the Carfax and for Clients that believe so much in low mileage Cars, i reserve my comments.

Lesson 2: Do not make any Commitment for any Car prior to inspection as you may find something you didn't bargain for and you might forfeit your commitment.

Lesson 3: Always have someone on ground in USA to do inspection before making any purchase as not all WHITES are white.  grin

Here is a copy of the Carfax and pics of the lady bird below.

Should you have also learn something from my little experience, pls let us share. Thank you for your time.
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 10:56pm On Dec 22, 2011
Detailed History


Owner 1
Purchased: 2006
Type: Personal
Where: North Carolina
Est. miles/year: 26,971/yr
Est. length owned: 8/31/06 - 9/27/11
(5 years)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
08/31/2006 920 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC Odometer reading reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
09/18/2006 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC
Title #779679062613144 Registration issued or renewed
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
Passed safety inspection
04/30/2007 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC
Title #779679062613144 Registration issued or renewed
Loan or lien reported
06/04/2007 23,286 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Charlotte, NC Passed emissions inspection
03/25/2008 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC
Title #779679062613144 Registration issued or renewed
Passed safety inspection
04/24/2008 48,060 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Charlotte, NC Passed emissions inspection
03/11/2009 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC
Title #779679062613144 Registration issued or renewed
Passed safety inspection
04/22/2009 76,601 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Charlotte, NC Passed emissions inspection
03/09/2010 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC
Title #779679062613144 Registration issued or renewed
Passed safety inspection
03/03/2011 122,397 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Charlotte, NC Passed emissions inspection
03/04/2011 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Charlotte, NC
Title #779679062613144 Registration issued or renewed
Loan or lien reported
08/17/2011 134,816 Crown Honda Charlotte
Charlotte, NC
704-887-5800
crownauto.com Maintenance inspection completed
Battery/charging system checked
09/24/2011 137,624 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Charlotte, NC Passed emissions inspection
09/27/2011 Dealer Inventory
Online Listing
Charlotte, NC Vehicle offered for sale
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 11:02pm On Dec 22, 2011
Interior Pics

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 11:06pm On Dec 22, 2011
More Interior Pics and Pristine Engine grin grin

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by JUSTME2SY: 12:15am On Dec 23, 2011
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Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 4:21am On Dec 23, 2011
All that glitters is not Gold

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by Fhemmmy: 4:34am On Dec 23, 2011
calculusx:

"Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck". If a Car was involved in an Accident and nothing is reported to relevant Authorities {DMVA and the likes} nothing will show on the Carfax and for Clients that believe so much in low mileage Cars, i reserve my comments.

Lesson 3: Always have someone on ground in USA to do inspection before making any purchase as not all WHITES are white.  grin


Well said . . .Thanks for sharing
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 4:40am On Dec 23, 2011
Fhemmmy:

Well said . . .Thanks for sharing

Thanks boss. As the year is going to an end, may we never be indebted. Amen
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 10:02am On Dec 23, 2011
CarFax doesn't show Pictures

Pictures doesn't show performance

Whoever is going pre-order way,ensure Car is Physically Inspected before Purchase, though it may attracts few $$$ but will save you thousands of $$$ buying lemon
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 4:54pm On Dec 23, 2011
Every dissapointment is always a blessing.

Got a better 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L on Auction Today

Accident free

4WD

Leather Seat

Roof mount DVD

In-dash Navigation Screen

2 Wireless headphones

7 Seater

Thank GOD for this deal. Client is the happiest person on earth Today.

Pics to follow later Tonight
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 4:56pm On Dec 23, 2011
4wd

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by Fhemmmy: 4:58pm On Dec 23, 2011
calculusx:

Thanks boss. As the year is going to an end, may we never be indebted. Amen

Lots and lots of Amen . . . and you too, Chief
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by Fhemmmy: 4:59pm On Dec 23, 2011
calculusx:

CarFax doesn't show Pictures

Pictures doesn't show performance

Whoever is going pre-order way,ensure Car is Physically Inspected before Purchase, though it may attracts few $$$ but will save you thousands of $$$ buying lemon


When the price sounds too good to be True, always something to think about.
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 11:14pm On Dec 23, 2011
Fhemmmy:

When the price sounds too good to be True, always something to think about.

Yes you just hit the nail on the head.[color=#006600][/color]
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 11:18pm On Dec 23, 2011
History Report POWERED BY

2006 Honda Pilot EX-L
Report Run Date: 2011-12-22 18:53:22.502 EST
Report Summary

•Class: CUV - Mid Range
•Engine: 3.5L V6 MPI
•Country of Assembly: United States
•Vehicle Age: 5 year(s)
•Calculated Owners: 1
•VIN: 5FNYF18716B029395
•Year: 2006
•Make: Honda
•Model: Pilot EX-L
•Style/Body: SUV 4D
This vehicle's AutoCheck Score




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AccidentCheck
Reported accidents: 0
Title and ProblemCheck
Your vehicle checks out!
OdometerCheck
Your vehicle checks out! Last Reported Odometer Reading: 134,390

Vehicle Use and EventCheck
Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported

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AccidentCheck
Not all accidents / issues are reported to AutoCheck.

Your Vehicle Checks Out! There have been no accidents reported to AutoCheck for this 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L (5FNYF18716B029395). AutoCheck receives its accident data from government sources and independent agencies, and based on the information available to us, we have found that no accidents have been reported on this vehicle.




Title and ProblemCheck
Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L (5FNYF18716B029395) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems, and disqualifies the vehicle for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. Check the Vehicle Use and EventCheck for reported accidents that can affect vehicle safety and value.

0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title or probable total loss record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame/unibody damage record
No recycling facility record



OdometerCheck
Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L (5FNYF18716B029395) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.
0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
3 08/24/2006
114,894 10/11/2010
131,589 08/31/2011
132,259 09/27/2011
134,390 12/19/2011



Vehicle Use and EventCheck
Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional vehicle uses or events reported to AutoCheck for this 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L (5FNYF18716B029395). This includes reported vehicle uses such as rental or lease, and events such as whether the vehicle has been reported to have had a loan/lien or a duplicate title issued. Other events show if the vehicle has a reported accident and how many calculated accidents or if it has been reported stolen or repossessed. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase.
0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked:
No fleet, rental and/or lease use record
No taxi use record
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record

1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through accident data sources
No corrected title record
No duplicate title record
Emission/safety inspection record(s)
No loan/lien record
No fire damage incident record
No repossessed record
No theft record
No storm area registration/title record


Full History
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date 2011-12-22 18:53:22.502 EST
Vehicle: 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L (5FNYF18716B029395)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
08/17/2006 WATERFORD, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/24/2006 WATERFORD, VA 3 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
08/25/2006 WATERFORD, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/26/2008 LEESBURG, VA Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
09/29/2008 WATERFORD, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/02/2009 WATERFORD, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/11/2010 LEESBURG, VA 114,894 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
10/15/2010 WATERFORD, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/31/2011 LEESBURG, VA 131,589 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
09/27/2011 WATERFORD, VA 132,259 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
12/19/2011 EASTERN REGION 134,390 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 11:27pm On Dec 23, 2011
Roof Mount DVD[color=#000099][/color]

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 8:18am On Dec 24, 2011
Thank God for another day.

Isn't this lovely>
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Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by ochina1(m): 11:45pm On Dec 24, 2011
Sir calculux, really splendid thread boss, Insightfull muchos!!!
Pls shoot me a mail, so we can chat a bit, av got an order 4a client, Maybe we could work sumthin out sir. Ochina1@gmail.com.
Feliz Navida NL
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 11:49pm On Dec 24, 2011
ochina1:

Sir calculux, really splendid thread boss,  Insightfull muchos!!!
Pls shoot me a mail, so we can chat a bit, av got an order 4a client,  Maybe we could work sumthin out sir. Ochina1@gmail.com.
Feliz Navida NL

Thanks bro, your mail is acknowledged. Pls check your mail.
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 8:04am On Dec 25, 2011
To ALL my Customers and to all Nairalanders at large, I'm Wishing your a Happy X-mas

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 8:27am On Dec 26, 2011
Front View

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 12:02pm On Dec 27, 2011
Driver's seat

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by viperman: 2:16pm On Dec 27, 2011
A freind of mine ordered a CLEAN TITLE car this year online, and when the car arrived nigeria, the gearbox was dead and the head lamps where just taped onto their frames. We laughed so hard at him to his face for trying to be smart without consulting us who are in the business.
As you rightly wrote, not all whites are white grin
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 3:35pm On Dec 27, 2011
viperman:

A freind of mine ordered a CLEAN TITLE car this year online, and when the car arrived nigeria, the gearbox was dead and the head lamps where just taped onto their frames. We laughed so hard at him to his face for trying to be smart without consulting us who are in the business.
As you rightly wrote, not all whites are white grin

grin grin grin I'm laughing at him too. I hope he has learnt his lesson by now.
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 6:41am On Dec 28, 2011
;d

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 7:07pm On Dec 29, 2011
Tyre

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 6:51am On Dec 31, 2011
;d

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2012
2 Wireless Headphones

Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by JUSTME2SY: 11:01pm On Jan 01, 2012
What will be your best pre-order of a clean one like the above 2005 model but of 2004.It should be EX-L
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 10:52am On Feb 14, 2012
Origin: Baltimore, MD
Dest: Lagos, Nigeria
Vessel Name: Grande Gabon
Voyage #: GGA0112

Ref # 123-?
Sail date: February 7
Arrival date: February 28 Approx
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by luvtoyota(m): 8:42pm On Feb 14, 2012
THAT IS 21DAYS ON THE SEA

I THOUGHT IT TAKES 15DAYS TO LAND TINCAN ?
calculusx:

[color=#006600][b]Origin: Baltimore, MD
Dest: Lagos, Nigeria
Vessel Name: Grande Gabon
Voyage #: GGA0112

Ref # 123-?
Sail date: February 7
Arrival date: February 28 Approx

[/

THAT'S 21 days ON THE HIGH SEA

I THOUGHT IT TAKES 15DAYS TO LAND TINCAN ?

KINDLY EXPLAIN
Re: All That Glitters Isn't Gold: Pre-order by calculusx(m): 12:06am On Feb 15, 2012
luvtoyota:

THAT IS 21DAYS ON THE SEA

I THOUGHT IT TAKES 15DAYS TO LAND TINCAN ? [/

[color=#006600][b]THAT'S 21 days ON THE HIGH SEA

I THOUGHT IT TAKES 15DAYS TO LAND TINCAN ?

KINDLY EXPLAIN


Sir, who ever tells you it takes 15days for Vessel form USA to get to Tin-can is doing so for marketing purpose. We have seen a situation where a dealer said it takes 5weeks for Cars to arrive Tin-can all the way from USA, all these are not true BUT on rear occasion it takes 19 days, not 15days.

e.g

Item # 3 on this link https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=836694.msg10192646#msg10192646 and the silver cr-v on this link https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=863821.msg10184709#msg10184709 both sailed on 01/24/2012 and the Vessel arrived this Morning 02/14/2012 which was approximately 20days contrary to expected February 11 ETA provided by the Shipping Company. It will also take additional 2-4 days before the Car can be out of the port provided there is no congestion at the port. Truth have to be told Sir. Good Morning

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