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Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 2:07am On Dec 30, 2011
The Bible never explicitly mentions self-service or states whether or not self-service is a sin. The Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to self-service is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10. Some interpret this passage as saying that “spilling your seed” on the ground is a sin. However, that is not precisely what the passage is saying. God condemned Onan not for “spilling his seed” but because Onan refused to fulfill his duty to provide an heir for his brother. The passage is not about self-service, but rather about fulfilling a family duty. A second passage sometimes used as evidence for self-service’s being a sin is Matthew 5:27-30. Jesus speaks against having lustful thoughts and then says, “If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away.” While there are parallels between this passage and self-service, it is unlikely that self-service was what Jesus was alluding to.

While the Bible nowhere explicitly states that self-service is a sin, there is no question as to whether the actions that lead to self-service are sinful. self-service is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, intimate stimulation, and/or pornographic images. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and Indecency are forsaken and overcome, self-service will become a non-issue. Many people struggle with guilty feelings concerning self-service, when in reality, the things that led to the act are far more worthy of repentance.

There are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue of self-service. Ephesians 5:3 declares, “Among you there must not be even a hint of intimate immorality, or of any kind of impurity.” It is hard to see how self-servicing can pass that particular test. The Bible teaches us, “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). If you cannot give God glory for something, you should not do it. If a person is not fully convinced that an activity is pleasing to God, then it is a sin: “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” (Romans 14:23). Further, we need to remember that our bodies have been redeemed and belong to God. “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, the conclusion that self-service is a sin is biblical. Clearly, self-service is not glorifying to God; it does not avoid the appearance of immorality, nor does it pass the test of God’s having ownership over our bodies.

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Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by vb0mb(m): 7:19am On Dec 30, 2011
frosbel:

The Bible never explicitly mentions self-service or states whether or not self-service is a sin.

Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 8:39am On Dec 30, 2011
What of semen test? Is it a sin. I mean the process of getting the semen from the man

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Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by toluxa1(m): 10:27pm On Jan 10, 2013
Joagbaje:
What of semen test? Is it a sin. I mean the process of getting the semen from the man
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Andybaby: 9:46am On Jan 11, 2013
B.I.G S.I.N
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by AtheistD(m): 10:23am On Jan 11, 2013
What about IVF? Or In Vitro Fertilisation?
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 10:24am On Jan 11, 2013
Joagbaje:
What of semen test? Is it a sin. I mean the process of getting the semen from the man

Semen test ?

sorry expatiate !
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by plappville(f): 3:49pm On Jan 11, 2013
I wonder why should God creat a women at the first place if one should have to service his/herself.. shocked

Genesis 2:22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

He is plainly telling us that, You ought not to do it by youself !

Genesis 2:18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

What else do we need to understand from this passages?

Genesis 2:20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.
If Adam could do it by Himself, God wouldn't borther Giving Him a healper that can perfectly do it for Him.. ! This is valid for every other thing in a mans Life.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by AtheistD(m): 4:45pm On Jan 11, 2013
plappville: I wonder why should God creat a women at the first place if one should have to service his/herself.. shocked

Genesis 2:22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

He is plainly telling us that, You ought not to do it by youself !

Genesis 2:18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

What else do we need to understand from this passages?

Genesis 2:20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.
If Adam could do it by Himself, God wouldn't borther Giving Him a healper that can perfectly do it for Him.. ! This is valid for every other thing in a mans Life.

What about prisoners doing life? No nookie and hence they might need to self sevice or become homo shocked
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jan 11, 2013
Atheist:-D:


What about prisoners doing life? No nookie and hence they might need to self sevice or become homo shocked

part of their punishment is to be deprived, especially for life in the case of murder cheesy
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 5:02pm On Jan 11, 2013
Joagbaje:
What of semen test? Is it a sin. I mean the process of getting the semen from the man
you can get your se.men out through other ways. When you sleep with your wife, you can withdraw and collect the semen. You dont necessarily have to mas.turbate
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 5:07pm On Jan 11, 2013
Joagbaje:
What of semen test? Is it a sin. I mean the process of getting the semen from the man

Good question!
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by greatgenius: 5:10pm On Jan 11, 2013
Why and how should anyone pleasing and pleasuring themselves be an act of sin?... Sex is never a sin..
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 5:25pm On Jan 11, 2013
greatgenius: Why and how should anyone pleasing and pleasuring themselves be an act of sin?... Sex is never a sin..

Sex in what context !
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by AtheistD(m): 5:26pm On Jan 11, 2013
frosbel:

part of their punishment is to be deprived, especially for life in the case of murder cheesy

That is extreme!!!! shocked
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 5:30pm On Jan 11, 2013
@frosbel, what i understand you are saying (correct me if i'm wrong) is; since mastur.bation is a result of a thought, it is that thought that is wrong and not mastur.bation in itself.

Well, if thats what you are saying, then murder in itself is not a sin since it is the result of a thought. But if the murder were only a thought, no one would have lost his life and no one would become a widow or bereaved which will open up ways for some social problems. I agree that the thoughts are what should concern us the most but it is a bad thing to think and worse if our evil thoghts are acted upon.

Masturbatio.n is basically gratification which in itself is selfishness. What ever we do with our body has to be to the glory of God for we are dead to ourselves and we now live for christ.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jan 11, 2013
gst101:
Masturbatio.n is basically gratification which in itself is selfishness. What ever we do with our body has to be to the glory of God for we are dead to ourselves and we now live for christ.

Indeed !
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 5:36pm On Jan 11, 2013
jesus said if you look at a woman lustfully and desire to have her, you are guilty of sin. You can never masturbat.e without having the thought of someone else in your head.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by AtheistD(m): 5:38pm On Jan 11, 2013
gst101: jesus said if you look at a woman lustfully and desire to have her, you are guilty of sin. You can never masturbat.e without having the thought of someone else in your head.

So this applies to ppl getting BONERS while looking at cute ladies in the mall shocked

Wow. No one is without sin.


....amended
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 5:50pm On Jan 11, 2013
frosbel:

Semen test ?

sorry expatiate !

Fluid test is sperrm Test . Mastubation is done to collect sample of a man"s sperrm . That how they get to know if a man has low sperrm count etc.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 5:57pm On Jan 11, 2013
since this mastur.bation thing became an issue among nigerian christians early last year, i got a new insight into the mind of nigerian christians. Nigerian christians believe only that which their mentor preaches and nothing more. It doesnt matter if what the man says is right or wrong. As far as it is coming from him, it must be the truth and we must have been mistaken all these years.

Before Oyakhilome said what he said in that video, most, if not all christ embassy members will tell you that mastur.bation is a sin against God. And they will also use so many verses other people use to prove it is a sin. But after they watched the video, suddenly the now think differently.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 6:05pm On Jan 11, 2013
Joagbaje:

Fluid test is sperrm Test . Mastubation is done to collect sample of a man"s sperrm . That how they get to know if a man has low sperrm count etc.
like i said, you dont have to masturbate to get your seme.n. You can withdraw from your wife and collect it.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jan 11, 2013
gst101: like i said, you dont have to masturbate to get your seme.n. You can withdraw from your wife and collect it.

grin
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by greatgenius: 6:28pm On Jan 11, 2013
frosbel:

Sex in what context !
human
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 7:01am On Jan 12, 2013
gst101: like i said, you dont have to masturbate to get your seme.n. You can withdraw from your wife and collect it.

The question is, if a man mastubates to donate sperrm or a man mastubates for semenn test. Had he sinned?
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 7:04am On Jan 12, 2013
gst101: since this mastur.bation thing became an issue among nigerian christians early last year, i got a new insight into the mind of nigerian christians. Nigerian christians believe only that which their mentor preaches and nothing more. It doesnt matter if what the man says is right or wrong. As far as it is coming from him, it must be the truth and we must have been mistaken all these years.

Before Oyakhilome said what he said in that video, most, if not all christ embassy members will tell you that mastur.bation is a sin against God. And they will also use so many verses other people use to prove it is a sin. But after they watched the video, suddenly the now think differently.

Dont get sentimental. This thread was opened 2 years ago. Oyskholomes comment was only last year. I've said the same thing ever since. Mastubation is a bad habit like any other bad habits. I can even be demonic in some cases . I have cast devils out of one people to free them from mastubation. But it's dangerous to call something a sin ,if God hadn't said so. We can't make our own law. Not labeling it a sin against God doesn't mean you encourage it.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 7:26am On Jan 12, 2013
gst101: jesus said if you look at a woman lustfully and desire to have her, you are guilty of sin. You can never masturbat.e without having the thought of someone else in your head.

you don't have to have imagination to mastubate. Besides That portion of the bible is talking about lusting after another man's wife. . Remember he was dealing with adultery. The issue there is about coveting another mans property.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by AtheistD(m): 8:06am On Jan 12, 2013
What about if you are married, you are away from your wife for a month. You decide to self-service using your wife as a thought.

Since it is your wife it can hardly ne called cheating or impure grin

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Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 10:24am On Jan 12, 2013
Joagbaje:

Dont get sentimental. This thread was opened 2 years ago. Oyskholomes comment was only last year. I've said the same thing ever since. Mastubation is a bad habit like any other bad habits. I can even be demonic in some cases . I have cast devils out of one people to free them from mastubation. But it's dangerous to call something a in ,if God hadn't said so. We can't make our own law. Not labeling it a sin against God doesn't mean you encourage it.
may be not you but some of your brothers
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by gst101: 10:36am On Jan 12, 2013
Joagbaje:

you don't have to have imagination to mastubate. Besides That portion of the bible is talking about lusting after another man's wife. . Remember he was dealing with adultery. The issue there is about coveting another mans property.
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 11:51am On Jan 12, 2013
gst101: jesus said if you look at a woman lustfully and desire to have her, you are guilty of sin. You can never masturbat.e without having the thought of someone else in your head.

Hmm this is what i have on my mind, is it lustful if i imaging the nake.dness of my wife, desire her intensely, am i still guilty of sin? smiley Now that word "WOMAN" is it any woman that is not your wife or it includes your wife also? smiley
Re: Self-service - Is It A Sin According To The Bible? by Nobody: 11:54am On Jan 12, 2013
gst101: like i said, you dont have to masturbate to get your seme.n. You can withdraw from your wife and collect it.
grin grin grin grin grin grin hahahah funny as i imagine it shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

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