[size=14pt]Muhammad Would Never Approve of violation[/size]

The Truth:

It is against Islam to violation Muslim women, but Muhammad actually encouraged the violation of others captured in battle. This hadith provides the context for the Qur’anic verse (4:24):

The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain.  They met their enemy and fought with them.  They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers.  So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn't Muhammad, but "Allah the Exalted" who told the men to violation the women in front of their husbands - which is all the more reason not to think of Islam as being the same as other religion.

Note also that the husbands of these unfortunate victims were obviously alive after battle.  This is important because it flatly contradicts those apologists who like to argue that the women Muhammad enslaved were widowed and thus unable to fend for themselves.  (Even if the apologists were right, what sort of a moral code is it that forces a widow to choose between being violated and starving?)

There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear opportunity to disavow Desecrating women - yet he instead offers advice on how to proceed.  In one case, his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant.  Muhammad was asked about Reproduction interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about Reproduction interruptus?"  The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)
As indicated, the prophet of Islam did not mind his men Desecrating the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.

As one might imagine, Muhammad's obvious approval of Desecrating women captured in battle and his own personal participation as recorded in many places is of intense inconvenience to the Muslim apologists of our time.  For this reason, some of them attempt to explain away these many episodes and Qur'anic references to sex with captives by pretending that these are cases in which women have fled bad marriages and sought refuge with the Muslims.  Some apologists even refer to them as "wives," even though the Qur'an makes a clear distinction between "those whom thy right hand possesses" and true wives (see Sura 33:50).

Beyond the desperation of the 21st century apologist however, there is absolutely nothing in the historical text that supports this rosy revision of Muslim history.  The women of the Banu Mustaliq were sold into slavery following their violation:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have intimate intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male intimate organ before emission of Fluid to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter" (Sahih Muslim 3371)

In fact, female slaves were traded like any other simple commodity by Muhammad and his bad of devoted followers:

"Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu'l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons." (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham/Hisham 693)
Is it Islamic to sell one's wife for horses?  Clearly these were not wives!

More importantly, by definition a "captured" woman is not one who is fleeing her husband.  She is fleeing her captor (ie. the Muslim slave raider).  This hadith describes a typical raid, in which the women and children are captured as they are attempting to flee the attacking Muslims:

“…and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought.  Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children [escaping in the distance].  I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain.  When they saw the arrow, they stopped.  So I brought them, driving them along” (Sahin Muslim 4345)

The Muslim narrator (who happens to be Muhammad's adopted son) sees the women trying to escape (following the massacre of their men) and cuts off their route by shooting an arrow into their path.  These aren't women trying to seek refuge with the Muslims.  They are trying to avoid capture by the Muslims.

The same hadith goes on to recount that Muhammad personally demanded one of the captured women for his own use:

I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize.  So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: “Give me that girl.” (Sahih Muslim 4345)

The prophet of Islam and his companions used war to collect women for personal intimate use and for trading.  Unless she was arbitrarily declared as someone's wife, the woman became a sex slave.  In no case was her fate tied to anything that she had personally done, nor was she given a choice about her future.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-violation.htm

A photo in attached.

the many lies and false interpretations and lewd bible imaginations,can be refuted with one verse which the christian missionaries refuse always to quote completely:

Holy Quran 4:24
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise".

[size=18pt]Ra.pe In The Bible[/size]

Ra.pe is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable.  Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of ra.pe.  How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows ra.pe escapes me.  Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.

So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty ra.pes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about.  Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife".  Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages.  This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives. 



1) Murder, ra.pe, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead  (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children.  "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin."  Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.


The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives.  But there were not enough women for all of them.  The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel.  So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead?  There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever.  But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."


Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem.  They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards.  When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife!  And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding.  Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'"  So the men of Benjamin did as they were told.  They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance.  Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them.  So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.


Obviously these women were repeatedly violated.  These sick bastards killed and violated an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and violation some more.  How can anyone see this as anything but evil?



2) Murder, ra.pe and pillage of the Midianites    (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men.  All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle.  They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword.  Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder.  They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived.  After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.


Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp.  But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle.  "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded.  "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor.  They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people.  Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man.  Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.



Clearly Bible Moses and bible God approves of violation of virgins.



3) More Murder Ra.pe and Pillage   (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.



What kind of God approves of murder, violation, and slavery?



4) Laws of Ra.pe   (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of Desecrating a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.



What kind of lunatic would make a violation victim marry her attacker?  Answer: God.



5) Death to the Ra.pe Victim   (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the ra.pe victim.  He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".



6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Ra.pe, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house.  I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor.  He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.  You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

    Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord."  Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die.  But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."  [The child dies seven days later.]


This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible.  God himself brings the completely innocent violation victims to the despoiler.  What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil?  And then he kills a child!  This is sick, really sick!



7)  Ra.pe of Female Captives   (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.  But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb.  After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.  However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."


    Once again God approves of forcible violation.



8 )  Ra.pe and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.   (Judges 5:30 NAB)



9) Se.x Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.   (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



10) Bible God Assists Ra.pe and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst.  And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.   (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

good jobs brothers and sisters. reveal more about the evils of the bible and quraan. you are doing good.

PAGAN 9JA:

good jobs brothers and sisters. reveal more about the evils of the bible and quraan. you are doing good.

there is no evil in the Quran and Islam.

dont let the evil bible followers deceive you with their marketing techniques.they are deceptive.very!!!

as for you,repent!!!

LagosShia:

there is no evil in the Quran and Islam.

dont let the evil bible followers deceive you with their marketing techniques.they are deceptive.very!!!

as for you,repent!!!

but she just proved it.

LagosShia:

there is no evil in the Quran and Islam.

dont let the evil bible followers deceive you with their marketing techniques.they are deceptive.very!!!

as for you,repent!!!

I guess u should blame the Islamic book, i am not the authors! U are defending the undefendable.

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about Reproduction interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)

Its about Muhammed and his followers!

"We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have intimate intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male intimate organ before emission of Fluid to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter" (Sahih Muslim 3371)

Again, Muhammed and his followers, U ve nothing of such to Qoute about Jesus and his disciples have u?
The both are far of different intensions as seen.

PAGAN 9JA:


but she just proved it.

she twisted and distorted "it".

didn't you see she could not even quote a complete verse (4:24)?

as for that girl,i'm done with her.anytime she misbehaves,i will treat her as she deserves.

LagosShia:

she twisted and distorted "it".

didn't you see she could not even quote a complete verse (4:24)?

as for that girl,i'm done with her.anytime she misbehaves,i will treat her as she deserves.

Good , you are defeated for good I hope.

frosbel:

Good , you are defeated for good I hope.

you people have gone mad today in opening threads insulting islam and the Prophet (s).

but Alhamdulillah,each time,the tide turns against you and christiianity and the thread are eternal evidence of how fraudulent christianity and how deceptive christians are.

LagosShia:

she twisted and distorted "it".

didn't you see she could not even quote a complete verse (4:24)?

as for that girl,i'm done with her.anytime she misbehaves,i will treat her as she deserves.

Oh @lagosShia, wht did i twist? U re reading from ur book and call it twist? Dont tell me u re dinying islamic teaching.
Muhammed did authorised R.aping the slave women by his friends/compagnions.
U must know that, those that got converted by force into Islam, when they were in Islam, they valide the reason for rejecting it initially. Muhammed's death, brought out secrets. We must continue to read reliable History book.
Thanks to hadith anyway.

Lol @as for that girl,i'm done with her.anytime she misbehaves,i will treat her as she deserves.

Jazakallahu khair lagoshia

AbuHanifa:

Lol @as for that girl,i'm done with her.anytime she misbehaves,i will treat her as she deserves.

Jazakallahu khair lagoshia

thank you brother.MashaAllah!!!

AbuHanifa:

Lol @as for that girl,i'm done with her.anytime she misbehaves,i will treat her as she deserves.

Jazakallahu khair lagoshia

It sounds funny really, He only done with me as a result of pretends to accept defeat. He can't do that openly as i know him to be.

The false prophets will be exposed period, Satan will lose souls in Jesus name amen.

plappville:

The false prophets will be exposed period, Satan will lose souls in Jesus name amen.

are you talking to yourself?

that is not good.it is sign of desperation.

LagosShia:

are you talking to yourself?

that is not good.it is sign of desperation.

@LagosShia, answering me has proved that i was truelly talking to you hahahahaha. So who is the despirate one?

[b]Our Lord Jesus Christ warned: “Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ [from the Greek word christos meaning Anointed]; and shall deceive many, For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matt. 24:4,5,24). “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things” (Luke 21:36). “And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.” (Mark 13:37).

The apostle John warned: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (I John 4:1). How do we “try the spirits”? By the scriptures (Isa. 8:20; Matt. 22:29). The Holy Bible is “the sword of the Spirit”, “and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God” is our measuring stick (Eph. 6:17; II Tim. 4:1-4; Heb. 4:12). “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (II Tim. 3:16). Regardless of who the messengers are, whether they be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers or “an angel from heaven”, the Holy Bible is the only ruler by which we should measure their words and deeds. And as we judge all things by the pure word of God in the Holy Bible, which are the Lord's preserved words, the scriptures that “shall not pass away” (Psa. 12:6,7; Prov. 30:5,6 Matt. 24:35), we will know the truth just as Jesus promised:

“If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31,32).

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