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(John 1:14)

We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.

Christ never said that He was the Word

With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria. He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.

It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed the term from him.the Word

Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, this means God becoming flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says 6 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]


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eninn:
(John 1:14)

We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.

Christ never said that He was the Word

With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria. He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.

It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed the term from him.the Word

Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, this means God becoming flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says 6 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]


https://www.facebook.com/100059866625821/videos/383696820988511




Q & A ~ John 1:1~ In The Beginning Was The Word And The Word Was With God Dr.Zakir Naik #zakirnaik




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyM9QTEHI


what is john 1 1




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7QQj8SWYg

This is rather foolish😅 because the Lord preceding that said "I am that I am" or "I will become what I will become"— this is regards form!

The statement you allude to is regards precept!

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*****(The crucifixion of Christ is pure fantasy) %%%% (A)

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In the Holy Qur’an, God denied the crucifixion of Christ:

Surah an-Nisa'
157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.

158. But Allah raised him up to Himself. Allah is Mighty and Wise.

Islam says: (Jesus, peace be upon him, was neither killed nor crucified)

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The most common belief among Christians is that Jesus was crucified and died.

But the question is:

Who said that Jesus was crucified and died, and that this actually happened?

In fact, when we look at the verses

that Christians use to prove this belief, we find that 95% of these verses are from Paul's letters.

The verses used to prove this belief are very few from the Gospels,

which raises a question mark about their source.

And whether Jesus really said that he would die on the cross?

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Let us examine together and examine this compelling evidence

of the contradiction between their beliefs and the Bible:

1 - At the moment of the Roman soldiers' approaching crucifixion,

Christ withdrew to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane and prayed to God the Father.

He called upon Him and begged Him to save him from this ordeal.

From this, we can see that crucifixion

was not the true purpose of Christ's presence on earth.

Otherwise, He would have surrendered to crucifixion without resistance or seeking God's help.

(Luke 22:42):

(“Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me.”"

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2 - None of Christ's followers were present at Christ's crucifixion,

except for a few women.

In fact, some accounts in the Gospels cast doubt on their presence there.

This doubt comes from Christian scholars themselves,

based on the testimony of witnesses. So what does it tell us?

They can't even agree on what Jesus was wearing, drinking, doing, or saying at the time of the crucifixion.

Matthew 27:28 tells us:

The Roman soldiers dressed Jesus in a scarlet robe.

(They stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him..)

John 19:2 says:

(and dressed Him in a purple robe.)


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Matthew 27:34 says:

(The Romans gave Jesus sour wine mixed with gall.)

Mark 15:23 says: (It was mixed with myrrh.)

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Mark 15:25 tells us: (Jesus was crucified before the third hour.)

But John 19:14-15 says:

It was about the sixth hour.

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Luke 23:46 says that Jesus' last words were "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit."

But John 19:30 says they were "It is finished!"

Now, wait a minute.

Jesus's righteous followers would have clung to his every word in his final days.

On the other hand, Mark 14:50 tells us that all the disciples left Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.


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Look with me at what God says about you in the Holy Qur'an:

(((82. You will find the most hostile towards the believers to be the Jews and those who associate. And you will find the nearest in affection towards the believers to be those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and pastors, and they are not arrogant.

83. And when they hear what was revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears, because of the truth they recognize. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses.”."

O Allah, guide Your lost servants. O Allah, Amen.






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? Timothy 1 * 6:16
16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
because God was not seen by anyone

Romans 1:23
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.




: Romans 1:25

25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


All texts confirm the impossibility of the incarnation, because it is a lie and a fabrication against God and a shame for people


By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
◄ John 5:30 ►

The text is clear, Christ cannot do anything on his own, why?? Because he is waiting for an order from the father who sent him

Jesus said “but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God;” John 8:40

The above verse is important to understand, Jesus is referring to himself as only a man, and stating God is separate from him.

“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:” Acts 2:22

eninn:
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? Timothy 1 * 6:16
16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
because God was not seen by anyone

Romans 1:23
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.




: Romans 1:25

25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


All texts confirm the impossibility of the incarnation, because it is a lie and a fabrication against God and a shame for people


By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
◄ John 5:30 ►

The text is clear, Christ cannot do anything on his own, why?? Because he is waiting for an order from the father who sent him

Jesus said “but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God;” John 8:40

The above verse is important to understand, Jesus is referring to himself as only a man, and stating God is separate from him.

“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:” Acts 2:22

What do you aim to prove, by stating verses out of context 🤨?Well, you indeed have your work cut out for you because Jesus' crucifixion is historically factual. If there's anything that we can believe to have happened—Historically— his crucifixion is paramount on such a list!

Your Quran just offered a diabolical misrepresentation🤔, something your prophet was really good at! It doesn't back up its claims with substance 🤨!

It's just a fairy tale written down 👀

eninn:
➜ (John 1:14) We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all. Christ never said that He was the Word
With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria. He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.
It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed the term from him.the Word

Quick corrections... The Hellenistic period in Greek history spans from the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BC to the rise of the Roman Empire, traditionally ending with the Battle of Actium in 31 BC. Philo Judaeus of Alexandria was a Jew, like John, the author of the Gospel you quote, and both men lived during the first century after the Romans had taken over the land from the Greeks. (As far as we all know, the Apostles of Jesus Christ of Israel all likely died before the year 70 AD, the year Jerusalem was destroyed, with Judaeh eventually ceasing around 134 AD.) They were, both of them, exposed to Greek culture and philosophy— the Greeks ruled over Judah & Egypt for almost 200 years — and eventually Roman rule.

It is also important to note that much of Philo Judaeus of Alexandria's philosophical works covered the first five books of the Bible, the Pentateuch. According to The Complete Works Of Philo Complete And Unabridged , all of Philo's writings were of the contents of the Israelite Bible, and his use of the term the Logos(Logic/reason/Wisdom) was about the the Truth/Reason/Wisdom of God of Israel.

Now, to my question, did Philo Judaeus of Alexandria suggest to you that John, who lived around the same time that he did, had no right to use the term he wrote of? (Philos of Alexandri was of course not the first the use the term the Logos in his works since the Greek term was widely used in Greek philosophical discourse.) Please, explain to us exactly why John's use of the term— the Logos— is considered, by you, a violation of Philo Judaeus's work(or whatever it is you intend to prove by this).

You can even call it the words of Tinubu, anything your sect permit just call it but Christ is the word of God made flesh!

eninn:
(John 1:14)

We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.

Christ never said that He was the Word

With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria. He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.

It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed the term from him.the Word

Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, this means God becoming flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says 6 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]


https://www.facebook.com/100059866625821/videos/383696820988511




Q & A ~ John 1:1~ In The Beginning Was The Word And The Word Was With God Dr.Zakir Naik #zakirnaik




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyM9QTEHI


what is john 1 1




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7QQj8SWYg

Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) was the last prophet sent by Allah.

To understand why he was the last messenger, we need to first understand what exactly was the purpose behind sending any prophets by Allah.

1) The prophets, Jesus, Moses, Noah, Muhammad and the other prophets of Allah (peace be upon them all) were all sent with a single mission. The Mission was to remind the people of the reality of afterlife, to tell them about Allah, enjoin them to do good and teach them the religion of Allah.

2) Allah says, that a prophet was sent to every tribe/people and 5 books were revealed upon the prophets. However the books as we know were either fabricated or lost later on after the prophets. (eg: the Bible has no single version)

Now the point to note is that uptill now Allah says that each prophet was send to his or her own people.

3) Allah says, that Prophet Muhammad was sent as a messenger to the whole of mankind and jinnkind. Allah communicated the Quran through him to us.

NOW COMES THE ANSWER...

Prophet Muhammad taught the people everything about Islam all its fundamentals, rights, rites, salaah, etiquettes and other frameworks. Allah through Prophet Muhammad, revealed the Quran as the guidance for all men and Jinn.

PLUS, Allah himself has vouched that the Quran will be preserved till the end of time (judgement day)

NOW THE EXPLANATION:

Earlier all the prophets except Prophet Muhammad were sent mainly to their own people (Moses to people of Israel, etc). PLUS the instructions/books given to them were after their death either fabricated or lost.

Prophet Muhammad on the other hand was NOT sent to a particular community or nation or a group of people but to humanity at large. Secondly, the message revealed to him in the form of the Quran will be preserved till the end of time as promised by Allah.

Thus, the final reminder and everlasting message has been sent by Allah and Thus, there arise no need for further Prophets or instruction (books) to appear, since we have the final frameworks and instruction with Prophet Muhammad and the Quran.

The message of Islam has spread far and wide across all globe, some people revert to it some avert from it, nonetheless they have heard about it and are aware of Allah as the supreme deity. Whether they choose to accept it or not is their choice and is between them and Allah.

Thus to CONCLUDE, since all the conditions for sending the prophets have been fulfilled and the Quran will last till the end of time (judgement day).

Speaking from common sense of the above explanation there arises no need for sending anymore Prophets, they will have no mission left even if they are sent to earth.

The only thing left now is for us to take heed of the message of the QURAN.


Prophet Muhammad (p) was the Last & Final Messenger of Allah who was Sent for the Whole of Humanity


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Misconception or Misinterpretation!

Whatever is found written in the Bible is here to stay forever except we are debating about Misinterpretation of the written words but when you say Misconception then it shouldn't be what we found WRITTEN rather how people misinterpret it.
For instance if i as a Christian should see to the Quran i will say it's totally not an inspired book.
WHY?
Because it's only one man who got all the so called "inspiration" among people who never knew God's laws before therefore on what ground could he have been sent to declare a message totally strange to a nation who knew nothing about the laws of the God he wanted to declare His message?

So misconception totally differs from the word misinterpretation just as you can't say you are on the side of a King whose words has been written down by his secretary yet you stand to contradict the written words of that King claiming it doesn't make sense to you. But if it's the interpreter that you are trying to correct then you are still on point because the interpreter whose connection with the author could be probed may commit a blunder. Please let us respect whatever is written in the holy books as sacred writings and look forward to its practical applications.
Whoever feels like correcting whatever is found written in any of the books will surely be biased towards the other but if we allow subscribers (believers) from both sides to explain their beliefs and prove how beneficial are things found in them then we can all see clearly where the falsehood hides not reasoning from one end simply because that's what we were taught to believe.

eninn:
Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) was the last prophet sent by Allah.

To understand why he was the last messenger, we need to first understand what exactly was the purpose behind sending any prophets by Allah.

1) The prophets, Jesus, Moses, Noah, Muhammad and the other prophets of Allah (peace be upon them all) were all sent with a single mission. The Mission was to remind the people of the reality of afterlife, to tell them about Allah, enjoin them to do good and teach them the religion of Allah.

2) Allah says, that a prophet was sent to every tribe/people and 5 books were revealed upon the prophets. However the books as we know were either fabricated or lost later on after the prophets. (eg: the Bible has no single version)

Now the point to note is that uptill now Allah says that each prophet was send to his or her own people.

3) Allah says, that Prophet Muhammad was sent as a messenger to the whole of mankind and jinnkind. Allah communicated the Quran through him to us.

NOW COMES THE ANSWER...

Prophet Muhammad taught the people everything about Islam all its fundamentals, rights, rites, salaah, etiquettes and other frameworks. Allah through Prophet Muhammad, revealed the Quran as the guidance for all men and Jinn.

PLUS, Allah himself has vouched that the Quran will be preserved till the end of time (judgement day)

NOW THE EXPLANATION:

Earlier all the prophets except Prophet Muhammad were sent mainly to their own people (Moses to people of Israel, etc). PLUS the instructions/books given to them were after their death either fabricated or lost.

Prophet Muhammad on the other hand was NOT sent to a particular community or nation or a group of people but to humanity at large. Secondly, the message revealed to him in the form of the Quran will be preserved till the end of time as promised by Allah.

Thus, the final reminder and everlasting message has been sent by Allah and Thus, there arise no need for further Prophets or instruction (books) to appear, since we have the final frameworks and instruction with Prophet Muhammad and the Quran.

The message of Islam has spread far and wide across all globe, some people revert to it some avert from it, nonetheless they have heard about it and are aware of Allah as the supreme deity. Whether they choose to accept it or not is their choice and is between them and Allah.

Thus to CONCLUDE, since all the conditions for sending the prophets have been fulfilled and the Quran will last till the end of time (judgement day).

Speaking from common sense of the above explanation there arises no need for sending anymore Prophets, they will have no mission left even if they are sent to earth.

The only thing left now is for us to take heed of the message of the QURAN.


Prophet Muhammad (p) was the Last & Final Messenger of Allah who was Sent for the Whole of Humanity


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6mddu6kvdE



سواح أمريكيين: أب وابنته مندهشان من الإسلام




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqQX1_iE2Bo&t=326s





ملحد يسئل، لماذا انت مسلم؟ حوار ممتع ♤ محمد علي وملحد ♤ ركن المتحدثين Speaker's corner




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIyjSfyEIbA

Please show me from the Quran where it says Muhammad is the last prophet?



Please remember what I asked one unambiguous unequivocal statement from the Quran that Muhammad is the last prophet?

Please don't panic
I await your reply

eninn:
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*****(The crucifixion of Christ is pure fantasy) %%%% (A)

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In the Holy Qur’an, God denied the crucifixion of Christ:

Surah an-Nisa'
157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.

158. But Allah raised him up to Himself. Allah is Mighty and Wise.

Islam says: (Jesus, peace be upon him, was neither killed nor crucified)

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The most common belief among Christians is that Jesus was crucified and died.

But the question is:

Who said that Jesus was crucified and died, and that this actually happened?

In fact, when we look at the verses

that Christians use to prove this belief, we find that 95% of these verses are from Paul's letters.

The verses used to prove this belief are very few from the Gospels,

which raises a question mark about their source.

And whether Jesus really said that he would die on the cross?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Let us examine together and examine this compelling evidence

of the contradiction between their beliefs and the Bible:

1 - At the moment of the Roman soldiers' approaching crucifixion,

Christ withdrew to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane and prayed to God the Father.

He called upon Him and begged Him to save him from this ordeal.

From this, we can see that crucifixion

was not the true purpose of Christ's presence on earth.

Otherwise, He would have surrendered to crucifixion without resistance or seeking God's help.

(Luke 22:42):

(“Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me.”"

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2 - None of Christ's followers were present at Christ's crucifixion,

except for a few women.

In fact, some accounts in the Gospels cast doubt on their presence there.

This doubt comes from Christian scholars themselves,

based on the testimony of witnesses. So what does it tell us?

They can't even agree on what Jesus was wearing, drinking, doing, or saying at the time of the crucifixion.

Matthew 27:28 tells us:

The Roman soldiers dressed Jesus in a scarlet robe.

(They stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him..)

John 19:2 says:

(and dressed Him in a purple robe.)


------------

Matthew 27:34 says:

(The Romans gave Jesus sour wine mixed with gall.)

Mark 15:23 says: (It was mixed with myrrh.)

----

Mark 15:25 tells us: (Jesus was crucified before the third hour.)

But John 19:14-15 says:

It was about the sixth hour.

-------------

Luke 23:46 says that Jesus' last words were "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit."

But John 19:30 says they were "It is finished!"

Now, wait a minute.

Jesus's righteous followers would have clung to his every word in his final days.

On the other hand, Mark 14:50 tells us that all the disciples left Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.


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Look with me at what God says about you in the Holy Qur'an:

(((82. You will find the most hostile towards the believers to be the Jews and those who associate. And you will find the nearest in affection towards the believers to be those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and pastors, and they are not arrogant.

83. And when they hear what was revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears, because of the truth they recognize. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses.”."

O Allah, guide Your lost servants. O Allah, Amen.






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Good points from zaik naik

Now if jesus did not die in Jerusalem.....the roman didn't know, the scribes and pharisees didn't know, the people didn't know... then after 600yeaes + in the desert of arabia , Qutham said he didn't die


Please please who died?
Use the Quran to tell us who died? Because someone died that night if it is not yasua al massih who DIED?


PLEASE CAREFUL THE NEXT ONE WILL HIT YOU WELLA

eninn:
(John 1:14)

We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.

Christ never said that He was the Word

With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria. He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.

It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed the term from him.the Word

Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, this means God becoming flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says 6 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]


https://www.facebook.com/100059866625821/videos/383696820988511




Q & A ~ John 1:1~ In The Beginning Was The Word And The Word Was With God Dr.Zakir Naik #zakirnaik




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyM9QTEHI


what is john 1 1




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7QQj8SWYg

In the beginning was the word
And the word was with God
And the word was God

Beautiful words never written....so this words are corrupted......I agree ...so the bible is corrupted....


Please can yoy show me one equivocal unambiguous statement from Allah that the bible is corrupted?



Let me give you a hint ...it will create Islamic dilemma and Allah as a lie


Don't panic
You started this

@eninn let me ask you Islamic question

Does Allah have a colour?
Does Allah have another Allah that He WORSHIPPED



Quran 2:138 (Surah Al-Baqarah)
​Arabic: صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ ۖ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً ۖ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدُونَ
Allah is a dye colour , and we are His worshipper


Don't panic

BlackfireX:
@eninn let me ask you Islamic question
Does Allah have a colour?
Does Allah have another Allah that He WORSHIPPED
Quran 2:138 (Surah Al-Baqarah)
​Arabic: صِبْغَةَ اللَّهِ ۖ وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ مِنَ اللَّهِ صِبْغَةً ۖ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ عَابِدُونَ
Allah is a dye colour , and we are His worshipper. Don't panic

Different translations

MaxInDHouse:
Different translations

Happy Easter

Please I don't understand?

You mean they have 3 more transactions to cover up Allah's blunder or the writers blunder


The arabuc word is dye...coloring.....colour

Is this not corruption
Is this not lies
Is this not cover up
Is this not mental



Or what do you think?

Some of the writings are proverbial so if care is not taken different readers will translate it differently but the truth remains that Islam has failed woefully!😟

BlackfireX:
Happy Easter
Please I don't understand?
You mean they have 3 more transactions to cover up Allah's blunder or the writers blunder
The arabuc word is dye...coloring.....colour
Is this not corruption
Is this not lies
Is this not cover up
Is this not mental
Or what do you think?

MaxInDHouse:
Some of the writings are proverbial so if care is not taken different readers will translate it differently but the truth remains that Islam has failed woefully!😟

My brother please understand thisal Quran kareem is the direct word of Allah not man not angel..... this is a fact

Another thing is that it is clear and detailed guidance...... this is a fact.

Now let's bring those 2 touted parroted Islamic truth into Quran 2 vs 138.... then you see a problem and more problems and lies of centuries


The arabic word used. ....sibghata.....that means dye, colour, tint,

Another araabic word lahu abidun.....we are worshippers of Him

What?

If you use the above 2 facts above.

It means Allaah has a colour
It means Allah worship another Allah

Infact the haadith and tasfir complicated it more


It shows that the Quran is not what it says it was
I have 30 something verses like that ...


Muslims please read it for yourselves with the Dogma you were told and see for yourself

I pray RUH AL QUDUS open your eyes to see truth that YASUA AL MASSIH is the TRUTH to the glory of AL RAB

BlackfireX:
My brother please understand thisal Quran kareem is the direct word of Allah not man not angel..... this is a fact

Who is Allah?

The calendar year of Islam begins not with the birthday of our prophet (peace be upon him) not from the time that the revelation came to him (Bethat) nor from the time of his ascension to heaven, but with the migration (Hijra) from an undesirable environment into a desirable place to fulfill Allah's command. It was migration from a plot that was set by the leaders of the Quraysh who were plotting to kill prophet Muhammad, and to destroy the truth that today is being conveyed to mankind everywhere against tyranny and injustice. Their purpose was to destroy the foundation of the Islamic state, the Sunnah of the tradition of the prophet, and to prevent the revelation being delivered by Allah's messenger to mankind.


The Islamic calendar is reckoned from the time of migration (Hijra) of Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from Mecca to Madina. The Prophet's decision to migrate from Mecca came after several years of inhuman treatment of the faithful by the powerful tribes who were united despite all their feuds to stop the spread of Islam.

Prophet Mohammad's decision to leave Mecca coincided with the infidel's plan to assassinate him. In 622 AD, the Quresh tribesmen held a meeting and decided that a band of young men, one from each tribe, should assassinate Prophet Mohammad collectively so that their responsibility for the murder could not be placed on any particular tribe.

On the eventful night, the Prophet asked his cousin Ali Ben Abutalib to take his place in bed to make the Meccans think that he was asleep. The Prophet himself slipped out unobserved alongwith his loyal follower Abu Bakr (who was chosen as the first C aliph after the death of the prophet). They secretly made their way to a cave named Thawr, not far from Mecca and lay in hiding there for a day or two until Abu Bakr's son reported that the search for him had been given up. Then the two set out from Madina on camel back. They reached Quba, on the edge of the Madina oasis, on 12th Rabiul Awwal. With Mohammad's arrival in Quba a new phase of his career and glory of Islam started.

This migration has a special significance in the history of Islam. It ended the Meccan period of humiliation and torture and began the era of success. His own people to whom he preached Islam for 13 years neglected the Prophet of Islam. But he was cordially received in Madina as an honored chief.

In Madina his power enhanced day by day. Here he was not only the religious leader but took the role of a politician and statesman too. Prophet Mohammad expired ten years after his migration to Madina but only in one decade he changed the course of human history.

In view of this special significance of the Prophet's migration the consultative body advised the Second Islamic Caliph, Omar ben Khattab, to start the Islamic year from the date of migration of the Prophet from Mecca to Madina.

According to early Moslem scholars, Abu Musa Al Shari drew attention of Omar to an improperly dated debenture or IOU which was payable in the month of Shaban but it was not clear which Shaban was actually meant, the present one or the coming one. Omar called the dignitaries for consultation who made several suggestions to begin the Islamic calendar.

Ali (who later became the fourth caliph) suggested the Hijra as the beginning of the Islamic year with Moharram as its first month. Consequently, Caliph Omar in 21 A.H. or 641 A.D introduced the Islamic calendar in its present form.

QURANIC GUIDANCE

The guidance about the Islamic calendar is taken from the following verses from the Holy Quran: (In the name of GOD most gracious and most merciful)

"Lo the number of the months with God is twelve months." IX:36.

"They ask thee, of new moons. Say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage." II:189.

"He it is who appointed the sun a splendor and the moon a light, and measured for her stages, that ye might know the number of the years, and the reckoning." X:5

The Islamic Calendar of 12 Lunar Months is determined by observation of the new moon with no effort by intercalation (addition) or other means to synchronize the Lunar year with the Solar year.

Life Of The Final Messenger - Muhammad pbuh (Seerah) - 12 Hijrah (Migration) - Mufti Ismail Menk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j33p--TzvuI


Amir Ibn Fuhayra (ra): The Guide on the Hijrah | The Firsts | Dr. Omar Suleiman


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJFwXbwFYCQ

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(John 1:14)

We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.

I would not have answered this, if you discussed that at some Muslim forum, for it is up to you how you wish to believe within your religion, but since you do this in the public christian forum, and the stated ideas are due to some lack (perhaps, quite innocent) of knowledge, I'll have to comment for those who are truly interested in the matter in itself, you may read it also, if you are truly interested more in the truth, than in what is your own, though I am not sure that this can make your spiritual life then easier. So, read it if you wish, but do it only at your own risk, because it is not necessarily so that you have enough powers in this wold to build that tower.

In the Sacred Scripture of the Gospel, the Word does not only mean the Word alone, but means the Divine Truth, which was the Lord, and how God Himself came into the world, so to regard those ideas from the letter alone, and still more from the writinghs of other learned men, it is to draw the fallacious conclusions, and is to judge from without, from the flesh and blood, but not from within, from the Lord Himself.

From the Doctrine of the Lord:

"1. UNIVERSAL HOLY SCRIPTURE TREATS OF THE LORD: THE LORD IS THE WORD.
We read in John:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not (John 1:1-5).
The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the Only-begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth (John 1:14).
The light is come into the world and men loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil (John 3:19).
While ye have the light, believe in the light, that ye may be sons of light. I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth in Me should not abide in the darkness (John 12:36, 46).
From these passages it is evident that the Lord is God from eternity, and that this God is the selfsame Lord who was born in the world; for it is said that the Word was with God, and God was the Word, and also that without Him was not anything made that was made; and it is added that the Word was made flesh, and they beheld Him.

2. That the Word which is here specifically meant is the same as that which was manifested through Moses and the Prophets, and through the Evangelists, may clearly appear from this consideration, that this Word is Divine Truth itself, from which is derived all wisdom with angels, and all spiritual intelligence with men. For angels have in the heavens the very same Word that men have in the world; save only that in the world with men it is natural, whereas in the heavens it is spiritual. Moreover, since the Word is Divine Truth, it is also the Divine proceeding; and this is not only from the Lord, but it is also the Lord Himself. As this Word is the Lord Himself, therefore all things in general and in particular of the Word are written concerning Him alone: from Isaiah even to Malachi there is not anything which is not about the Lord, or, in the opposite sense, against the Lord.

[2] That this is the case, has not hitherto been seen by anyone; but yet everyone may see it, provided he is made aware of it, thinks of it whilst he reads, and further knows that in the Word there is not only a natural sense but also a spiritual sense; and that in this spiritual sense, by the names of persons and of places is signified something of the Lord, and consequently something of heaven and of the Church from Him, or something of an opposite sense. Now, as all things in general and in particular of the Word concern the Lord, and as the Word, because it is Divine Truth, is the Lord, it clearly appears why it is said, "and the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory"; and also why it is said, "While ye have the light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light ... I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness." The light is the Divine Truth, and consequently the Word. Therefore everyone, even at the present day, who, whilst reading the Word, approaches the Lord alone, and prays to Him, is enlightened therein." (
It is but little understood in the church why the Lord is called the Word. It is because "the Word" signifies Divine truth or Divine wisdom, and the Lord is Divine truth itself or Divine wisdom itself. And this is why He is called the Light, of which also it is said that it came into the world. As the Divine wisdom and the Divine love make a one,* and in the Lord had been a one from eternity, it is said, "In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." "Life" is Divine love; and "light" is Divine wisdom. It is this one that is meant by, "In the beginning the Word was with God, and God was the Word." "With God," is in God; for wisdom is in love, and love in wisdom. So in another place in John:
And now, O Father, glorify Thou Me with Thine own Self, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was (John 17:5). "With Thine own Self," is in Thyself, and therefore it is said, "and God was the Word;" and elsewhere, that the Lord is in the Father, and the Father in Him; and that He and the Father are one. As therefore the Word is the Divine wisdom of the Divine love, it follows that it is Jehovah Himself, thus the Lord by whom all things were made that are made; for all things have been created from Divine love by means of Divine wisdom.

* That is, a complex whole which constitutes a unity. [TRANSLATOR.]"

Another quotation:

" 85. (2) Jehovah God descended as Divine Truth, which is the Word, although He did not separate from it the Divine Good. There are two things that constitute the essence of God, the Divine love and the Divine wisdom, or what is the same, Divine good and Divine truth. That these two are the essence of God has been shown above (n. 36-48). Moreover these two are what are meant in the Word by the name "Jehovah God," "Jehovah" meaning the Divine love or Divine good, and "God" the Divine wisdom or Divine truth; and for this reason these two names are distinguished in the Word in various ways; sometimes the name "Jehovah" alone is used, and sometimes the name "God" alone-the name "Jehovah" when the Divine good is treated of, and the name "God" when the Divine truth is treated of; and the name "Jehovah God" when both are treated of. That Jehovah God descended as the Divine truth, which is the Word, is shown in John as follows:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among, us (John 1:1, 3, 14).
By "the Word" here the Divine truth is meant; because the Word, which is in the church, is Divine truth itself, for it was dictated by Jehovah Himself; and what is dictated by Jehovah is nothing but Divine truth, and can be nothing else. [2] But inasmuch as the Divine truth passed down through the heavens even to the world, it became adapted to angels in heaven and also to men in the world. For this reason there is in the Word a spiritual sense in which the Divine truth is seen in clear light, and a natural sense in which it is seen obscurely. Thus it is the Divine truth in our Word that is here meant in John. This is made still clearer by the fact that the Lord came into the world to fulfill all things of the Word; and this is why it is so often said that this or that was done to Him "that the Scripture might be fulfilled." Nor is anything but the Divine truth meant by "the Messiah" or "the Christ," or "the Son of man," or "the Holy Spirit the Comforter," which the Lord sent after His departure. In the chapter on the Sacred Scripture it will be shown that in His transfiguration before the three disciples on the mount (Matt. 17; Mark 9; Luke 9), and also before John in the Apocalypse (1:12-16), the Lord represented Himself as that Word.

[3] That the Lord in the world was the Divine truth is evident from His own words:
I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life (John 14:6);
also from these words:
We know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding that we may know the True; and we are in the True, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life (1 John 5:20);
and still further by His being called "the Light," as in the following passages:
There was the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world (John 1:4, 9).
Jesus said, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, that darkness overtake you not. While ye have the light believe in the light, that ye may be sons of light (John 12:35, 36, 46).
I am the light of the world (John 9:5).
Simeon said, For mine eyes have seen Thy salvation, a light for revelation to the Gentiles (Luke 2:30-32).
And this is the judgment, that light is come into the world; he that doeth the truth cometh to the light (John 3:19, 21);
besides other places. "Light" means the Divine truth."

(from the True Christian Religion, by Em. Swedenborg)