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Everything he does we suspect. If you know your borders, how would they come to collect it by force? Is GEJ giving them the constitutional right to claim anywhere they want.

This is just funny.

phreakabit:
Ijaw Man : True indigene of the South south
Itsekiri man : yoruba man who got lost while fishing and decided to attach himself to the South south.

Itsekiris are not Yorubas, a sincere Yorubaman will tell you the real truth, that Itsekiris are not Yorubas, They are forcing themselves to be Yoruba for protection because of Ijaws.
Itsekiris are different tiny tribe that were living among Yorubas and assimilated themselves with them, but were later Chased out by Yorubas, but out of kindness Ijaws accepted them in their Land, see today they are trying to turn Ijaw (Warri)and Okpe land to theirs, Olu of Itsekiri is now Olu of Warri.

Some of you guys have been so blinded by hate, its almost impossible to have any meaningful discussion on this forum.

Phreakabit:

You are ignorant. Ilajes are in Delta state, is that not SS? Its like saying Anioma is not SS
Secondly, the SS is multicultural, no group can lay claim on it. This is why I laugh when ignoramuses bring up that ND republic crap!

Ejine:
Your first point is baseless. The Ijaws,benins and Ibibio had an argument about this. (http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnews/71492/1/toru-ibe-state-creation-monarch-warns-against-cedi.html). You also used the "eastern" card, talking about Ijaw and Ibibios. If you do not know something, simply say I do not know instead of coming off unwise without knowledge. I got news for you: (http://www.gamji.com/article8000/NEWS8832.htm) and (http://itsekiriforumabuja.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=1)

Benin,   Ibibio,  Ilaje  and  Itsekiri  (and others)  in the Niger Delta lived together for so long that, to us this new irredentism (i.e. expansionist agenda) is not only raw and strange but divisive. And we repeat, Ijaw cannot premise their existence in the Niger Delta on the denial of the existence of other neighbors. While they can request for the creation of state(s) in whatever name, we oppose inclusion of our lands.

Secondly, you shout Igbo territories border SS? I guess Yorubas territories don't. Please, take a look at your map before using that baseless point on me. Also, ancestral Ibibios and Efiks are in Abia. I guess ancestral Binis, Itsekiris and even Ijaws are not in Ondo or Ekiti. We have to explain every thing on this forum?

I guess Antony Enahoro was never the deputy in the western region. The leader of NADECO, who was it? Was it not Enahoro? Please keep quiet!


Bashr:
To you, everyone is guilty except if they are connected with your "eastern" CRAP! What propaganda?? That a nation's maritime as big as Nigeria's maritime is about to be sold off to someone?

Htajz:
I know you are Igbos so shut up! I never expected you to be objective. If you were not land locked, I know you wouldn't have typed that crap you called a post.

Onlytruth:
If you do not like the idea of Southern Nigeria, then, you are just one person in the mist of millions. Your opinion does not make much of a difference, to be candid with you . I have my reasons for Southern Nigeria. I know why Biafra or Odua might not be good for the SS. I guess you have not had a deep thought about it because if you had, you'll not say what you said. . As an Eze Ndigbo, wisdom is expected of you instead of partisanship.

Sam Ikenna:
It start off, I'll say Thank you! Really, I am not interested in all this daily Igbo-Yoruba BS on this site. My point is far greater that the petty fights on this forum. Continue on this path and you'll enjoy your stay here. Stay blessed!

Chyz:

Only you fully understand what's going on. After all, you were here when it all started. Thanks for tell them the truth.





@All

If true, think about the ethical implications of this. What stops our next president from selling off our airspace or whatever to his closest friend?? Thats all I'll say for now. . . . .

Wily2wily:
Itsekiris are not Yorubas, a sincere Yorubaman will tell you the real truth, that Itsekiris are not Yorubas, They are forcing themselves to be Yoruba for protection because of Ijaws.
Itsekiris are different tiny tribe that were living among Yorubas and assimilated themselves with them, but were later Chased out by Yorubas, but out of kindness Ijaws accepted them in their Land, see today they are trying to turn Ijaw (Warri)and Okpe land to theirs, Olu of Itsekiri is now Olu of Warri.

Another mumu comes out to chat crap! SMH! You better go an marry before you start playing with cats.

Nothing person no go hear for nairaland. Ijaws are now claiming warri. Tell me which Ijaw person you know in Warri that can trace his ancestry three generations back. I can trace my ancestry in warri to 5 generations to the beginning of the 17th century. The Ijaws came to my village less than 50 yrs ago and was given a parcel of land to do their mangrove tree cutting business and 50 years later they started claiming the land. When their foolish claims cannot be sustained in a court of law they started using intimidation tactics and threats. The reason Ijaws easily resort to violence in land matters instead of using judicial means is that none of their ridiculous claims can be sustained in a law court even if the judge was ijaw. ALL land disputes over land ownership in warri had been won by the Itsekiris. it is the same problem all other neighbouring tribes have with the Ijaws, give then 1 square KM of land and they would attempt to take a million after just 50 years. They now claim all itsekiri land, Bini land and even Yoruba land because the people were kind enough to allow them do business in their domain. They now even claim parts of Epe, Langbasa and Maijidun in Ikorodu.

Please show me any historical records that shows Ijaws are indigenous to Warri. All their so called monarchs are very recent creations.

@Wili2Wily
You are a big fool, if you want to show your hate for Itsekiri, why not look for other means.No body can collect Warri from Itsekiri. Itsekiris are capable of defending their territory.Jonathan will not be so foolish to give maritime security to Ijaws alone. That will be =insecurity. If the Itsekiri youths decide to blow all the oil facilities in their community, can the Ijaws protect them? Itsekiri got about 40% of the pipeline security jobs.From the Itsekiri slot Urhobos got some. I think the people who should complain are Ilajes but I think some of them benefited from Itsekiri slot.May be the president is given more power to the Ijaws in the security. Nobody can undermine Itsekiris in the Niger Delta

The argument I'm getting is that all militant groups should be catered for; Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Ikwere etc. Its a fair argument.

In more civilised climes, an amnesty package would have included absorbtion into the military, but in Nigeria we prefer to keep the ex-militants peppersouping in Abuja, so long as the oil keeps flowing. It is peace, but a dangerous peace. Let us observe that the reasons for their insurrection have not yet been met and assuaged.
It is best to complete the amnesty by offering real military posts to the militants who have already displayed mastery of amphibious and assymetric warfare.

Well Jason I hope you see how annoying it is when people who know nothing about an issue. Stick their mouth where it doesn't belong. The point is, learn to shut the hell up in Issues that doesn't concern your people ok.

They added that “this is a fight for the survival of our people. We want you to help inform and alert the entire world that we know the plans of Goodluck Jonathan and the Izon nation. Help us alert the Olu of Warri, the Oni of Ife, Akinrutan Olugbo of Ugbo-Ilaje, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, the Afenifere, Olu Falae, Pa J. O. S. Ayomike, Pa. Arije in Ondo, all Itsekiri Leaders of Thought, Chief Rita Lori-Ogbebor and others that we are peace lovers but that Jonathan should not think we are silly

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nigeria is messed up i must confess. lets blv GEJ is wrong not bcus he gave it to an ijawman but bcuz he gave it to a civilian simple.
this shouting of ijaw domination is nonsense to me.
why should they call the yorubas for help instead of fighting their course in the law court.
do we need to descend into parties and gangups. what if the ijaws go and get igbos or efik/ibibio?

is this how we will live in southern Nigeria? in-case of SS separate nation, the oodua nation must interfere in their affairs.  since everything with Yoruba blood
is all about gang-up and when u do the same they shout from the mountain top.

9jaVoice
What are you taking about? A very aggressive neighbour who has made a previous attempt to deny you the right to live in your ancestral land is being rumoured to be given the task of providing security for you, and you say they should not shout out to whoever can help. You might as well be saying the UN should hand over Israel's security to Iran and expect Israel not to shout out.

the main issue is that Dokubo has stated that he is a sworn enemy of the Itsekiris and he was the main sponsor of the conflict that killed thousands of Itsekiris and displaced tens of thousands others.

kpogede77:
@Wili2Wily
You are a big fool, if you want to show your hate for Itsekiri, why not look for other means.

Kpogede77
i don't hate Itsekiri tribe, what i am against is their Expansionist agenda,. Itsekiris were driven out from their ancestral home by Yorubas, but because of Kindness of the Ijaws and Okpe people, they welcomed Itsekiris. Today go and see if not Gods help they succeeded in driving Okpe people out, tell me Why!!, is that behaviour good?
Because of Awolowos hatred of Ijaws people as the premier of Western region, over night that dangerous man Awo renamed Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri, Warri is Ijaw land not Itsekiri land.
Warri is Ijaw language not Itsekiri Language

Wily2wily:
Kpogede77
i don't hate Itsekiri tribe, what i am against is their Expansionist agenda,. Itsekiris were driven out from their ancestral home by Yorubas, but because of Kindness of the Ijaws and Okpe people, they welcomed Itsekiris. Today go and see if not Gods help they succeeded in driving Okpe people out, tell me Why!!, is that behaviour good?
Because of Awolowos hatred of Ijaws people as the premier of Western region, over night that dangerous man Awo renamed Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri, Warri is Ijaw land not Itsekiri land.
Warri is Ijaw language not Itsekiri Language

funny igboic person

Wily wily
Can you please provide us with a book, a link or even a google search confirming this your fairy tale. Itsekiris were driven by the yorubas indeed, so when did this driving take place. Then show how Warri has now become an Ijaw word and what is its meaning?

paragonpro:
Wily wily
Can you please provide us with a book, a link or even a google search confirming this your fairy tale. Itsekiris were driven by the yorubas indeed, so when did this driving take place. Then show how Warri has now become an Ijaw word and what is its meaning?

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that is igbotic lies from an igbotic ideeiot for you

You notice how no igbo NLer came to disclaim it. They love her to bits

Itsekiri which was called  isheri

warri which was called Iwere

Olu of warri

etc yet it is the yorubas fault

9ja voice:
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nigeria is messed up i must confess. lets blv GEJ is wrong not bcus he gave it to an ijawman but bcuz he gave it to a civilian simple.
this shouting of ijaw domination is nonsense to me.
why should they call the yorubas for help instead of fighting their course in the law court.
do we need to descend into parties and gangups. what if the ijaws go and get igbos or efik/ibibio?

is this how we will live in southern Nigeria? in-case of SS separate nation, the oodua nation must interfere in their affairs.  since everything with Yoruba blood
is all about gang-up and when u do the same they shout from the mountain top.

Please follow history before you type. This did not just start today.

What is that highly retarded thing you wrote up there. Call Igbo? so FUC.KING what Please, don't annoy me today! I have tried to respect Igbos on this forum and I will still do because of some characters like Chyz and co. Efik and Ibibios are also complaining.

1. we are aware that a few weeks ago, the ijaw ethnic nationality, our neighbor in the Niger Delta, submitted to you for the creation of Toru-ebe sate. We are sad to note that the propose state out rightly includes our homeland territories, and for this reason, we make this petition , strongly opposing the proposal, and stating our reasons. Also we attach our document tittled: Recreation of the Benin-Ibibio-Ilaje-Itsekiri Ethinc Nationalities to the Demand by Ijaw… for… Toru-Ebe state dated 18th November, 2009 which we forwarded to the conference of Ethnic Nationalities of the Niger Delta (CENND), stating our opposition and reasons to Ijaw Ntional Congress (INC).

Ibibio Homeland covers the area in the extream south Estern corner of Nigeria bounded by Ijaw on the west; north-east by Imo state, north by Ekoi and on the east by cameroons and has coastline on the Atlantic stretching over 130km. Aseries of court of their boundaries. Ibibio, numbering about 4 million, are the third largest group after Yoruba and Ibo in southern Nigeria. Ijaw on their coast represent less than 3% of Akwa-Ibom.

Conclusion

Benin,   Ibibio,  Ilaje  and  Itsekiri  (and others)  in the Niger Delta lived together for so long that, to us this new irredentism (i.e. expansionist agenda) is not only raw and strange but divisive. And we repeat, Ijaw cannot premise their existence in the Niger Delta on the denial of the existence of other neighbors. While they can request for the creation of state(s) in whatever name, we oppose inclusion of our lands.


              Signed for and on behalf of the Benin-Ibibio-Ilaje & Itsekiri Ethnic Nationalities.
http://itsekiriforumabuja.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=1

jason123:
Please follow history before you type. This did not just start today.

What is that highly slow thing you wrote up there. Call Igbo? so FUC.KING what Please, don't annoy me today! I have tried to respect Igbos on this forum and I will still do because of some characters like Chyz and co. Efik and Ibibios are also complaining.

you know this people don't mind their business they are thinking delta state is Biafra. stu,pid animals

Wily2wily:
Kpogede77
i don't hate Itsekiri tribe, what i am against is their Expansionist agenda,. Itsekiris were driven out from their ancestral home by Yorubas, but because of Kindness of the Ijaws and Okpe people, they welcomed Itsekiris. Today go and see if not Gods help they succeeded in driving Okpe people out, tell me Why!!, is that behaviour good?
Because of Awolowos hatred of Ijaws people as the premier of Western region, over night that dangerous man Awo renamed Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri, Warri is Ijaw land not Itsekiri land.
Warri is Ijaw language not Itsekiri Language

You are a bastard! An slowpoke with no redemption in sight! I have told you, your mates have husbands, boyfriends etc. You are here insulting people and groups. Awolowo and Ojukwu are long dead and are smiling in their graves. You are here having headache!

Btw, what is the meaning of Warri in Ijaw? I dey wait!!!

jason123:
You are a bastard! An slowpoke with not redemption in sight! I have told you, your mates have husbands, boyfriends etc. You are here insulting people and groups. Awolowo and Ojukwu are long dead and are smiling in their graves. You are here having headache!

Btw, what is the meaning of Warri in Ijaw? I dey wait!!! Bloody barren woman!

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@POST

For an undiscerning bystander such as me, I would like to know who has the contract for Sahara rim security of the Nigerian border? I hope it was not awarded to Boko Haram sponsors.

Maybe the next northerner should make Boko haram in control of the army. Then the whole country would see what is wrong with it.

Rumor/propaganda or not, it is in everyone's best interest that steps be taken to prevent Jonathan from ever doing anything like that, especially since it is looking as if he wants to do so unilaterally.

I dont see anything the ijaws has done wrong maybe its goodluck who is at fault, tho i dont know much about them but i liked their courage of blowing up pipelines for what nig govt did to the region atleast they now brought atttention to the region.

Itsekili ppl did a bad job by calling on yorubas to the rescue, to me its sound tribal and we all know what it can led to, which arent gonna benefit anybody as always.

personally i would love southern Nigeria and I believe Niger delta are the ppl to make it real.

^^^
Bros, how come you missed out Ilajes? Aren't Ilajes water loving Yorubas? It was probably them that called on the Yorubas.

Jonathan is not Ijaw,he is Ogbia.Most people dont know this.Ogbias are not Ijaw!

alj harem:
Maybe the next northerner should make Boko haram in control of the army. Then the whole country would see what is wrong with it.

You know I like this idea.

Jason, tell me exactly why you are now crying foul? did we not warn you when you were stuffing ballot boxes for GEJ?
if not for the DNA that links me and other Itshekiris, i would have advised Tinubu and other Yoruba leaders to lrt you be on [size=40pt]OYO[/size]