malachi 1 vs 3, the curse on the edomites (esau) (aka the white man) is that he will inherit the unproductive waste lands of the world (which he did and which is why he needed to conquer africa and the rest of the world for the fertile land ) and that his inheritance (the unproductive land) will be run awash with jackals (called dogs today but called jackals in the past). so basically the white man and dogs co-existed for thousands of years in the caves and mountains of  europe. then a mutual bond developed between him and the jackals that has lasted to this very day. thats why the edomites (white man) love their dogs

malachi 1 vs 3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the jackals of the wilderness.

Buzugee . . . all these your topics . . . I'm still trying to figure you out lol. Where do you come up with these theories?

JeSoul:

Buzugee . . . all these your topics . . . I'm still trying to figure you out lol. Where do you come up with these theories?

they are not theories Hun. they are facts . nothing to figure out about me really. am just a black man tryna stay afloat in a cold harsh world. that all.

buzugee:

they are not theories Hun. they are facts . nothing to figure out about me really. am just a black man tryna stay afloat in a cold harsh world. that all.

You mean you're just a "black Isrealite man tryna stay afloat in a cold harsh world" .

Your intepretation on religious, especially biblical matters is very interesting. Do you hold that blacks are a superior or special race?

JeSoul:

You mean you're just a "black Isrealite man tryna stay afloat in a cold harsh world" .

Your intepretation on religious, especially biblical matters is very interesting. Do you hold that blacks are a superior or special race?

Abeg, just dey comment for me, nice one,

@buzugee

you doing quite well spreading racism through religion. keep it up

JeSoul:

You mean you're just a "black Isrealite man tryna stay afloat in a cold harsh world" .

  Your intepretation on religious, especially biblical matters is very interesting. Do you hold that blacks are a superior or special race?

i would love to take credit for it but they are not exactly my interpretations. they are cold hard facts. are shemetic blacks a special people unto God ? of course we are. although we messed up big time and are now paying dearly for it. deuteronomy 7 vs 6. For you are a holy people unto the LORD your God: the LORD your God has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

hence why we are paying dearly for letting down God. we are supposed to be the spiritual light to all the heathen nations. all the heathen nations were supposed to get their salvation through us. and all the prophets and the messiah was supposed to and came through our lineage. but we reverted to worshipping idols (some fools in nigeria, haiti and brazil still do it to this very day. human sacrifices, sango, obatala, oya etc etc. things havent changed with us ).

diluminati:

@buzugee

you doing quite well spreading racism through religion. keep it up

this aint about me fool  the lord hates some people and he loves some people. malachi 1 vs 3, romans 9 vs 13 . see your church dont teach you all these things. they are too busy teaching you malachi 3 vs 10 to bother telling you who God really is

Buzugee bro,
Watch out for the White apologists. They'll stone you in a heartbeat. You can say anything about how the black people are cursed, and you'll get a lot of them nodding their heads "that is so true!" Why not try that? lol.

isale_gan2:

Buzugee bro,
Watch out for the White apologists. They'll stone you in a heartbeat. You can say anything about how the black people are cursed, and you'll get a lot of them nodding their heads "that is so true!" Why not try that? lol.

HAHAHA you are so right. i shall revert to bashing black people self hate is ubiquitous amongst our people how are ya ? were you been hiding at ? politricks section ?

buzugee:

HAHAHA you are so right. i shall revert to bashing black people self hate is ubiquitous amongst our people how are ya ? were you been hiding at ? politricks section ?

I'm everywhere and no where.   

Actually, I think my posts are more spread out now.  Good to see ya. 

isale_gan2:

I'm everywhere and no where.   

Actually, I think my posts are more spread out now.  Good to see ya. 

Good to see you too. i mostly hang in this section now myself.

buzugee:

i would love to take credit for it but they are not exactly my interpretations. they are cold hard facts. are shemetic blacks a special people unto God ? of course we are. although we messed up big time and are now paying dearly for it. deuteronomy 7 vs 6. For you are a holy people unto the LORD your God: the LORD your God has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

hence why we are paying dearly for letting down God. we are supposed to be the spiritual light to all the heathen nations. all the heathen nations were supposed to get their salvation through us. and all the prophets and the messiah was supposed to and came through our lineage. but we reverted to worshipping idols (some fools in nigeria, haiti and brazil still do it to this very day. human sacrifices, sango, obatala, oya etc etc. things havent changed with us ).

Well, interesting take like I said. I personally do not subscribe to the thought of "special" or "chosen" races. God chooses to work through certain peoples & circumstances but that in and of itself does not esteem the people/circumstance above another. So when you say:

buzugee:

this aint about me fool   the lord hates some people and he loves some people. malachi 1 vs 3, romans 9 vs 13 . see your church dont teach you all these things. they are too busy teaching you malachi 3 vs 10 to bother telling you who God really is

. . . solely on the basis of their race? I could not disagree more. But hey, you're still giving us some good reading material .

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musKeeto:

Abeg, just dey comment for me, nice one,

Lol. I go try. My brother how bodi now?  

JeSoul:

Well, interesting take like I said. I personally do not subscribe to the thought of "special" or "chosen" races. God chooses to work through certain peoples & circumstances but that in and of itself does not esteem the people/circumstance above another. So when you say: . . . solely on the basis of their race? I could not disagree more. But hey, you're still giving us some good reading material .

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Lol. I go try. My brother how bodi now?  

the bible is a living book. the bible is definitely written by men inspired by God. God puts his spirit into select pious men and the spirit takes over their being and they write the bible manuscript. i can show you over 10 instances of specific events from the murder of ghaddafi, the capture of mubarak, how the continents got their names, why the white man is ruling the world, why black people are catching hell, how russia and china will bring about the collapse of america, dr martin luther kings speech etc etc. i can show you all these things in the bible. this is a living book. if you believe the bible is a living book and the words of God, then you cant pick and choose what you agree with and what you dont agree with. thats called cherry picking and that means you are not fully enmeshed with the lords word. you are still rebelling against the lord. you dont fully agree with his ways. this is what you are indiscreetly saying. lets pick out your points
1. you do not subscribe to some people being the chosen race ? deuteronomy 7 vs 6' For you are a holy people unto the LORD your God: the LORD your God has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth' . so basically you are calling God a liar 

2. you say the lord does not favor people based on race ? malachi 1 vs 3, romans 9 vs 13. the lord is specifically saying he loves the descendants of jacob (israelites) and he is not so fond of the descendants of esau. thats racism right ? is the lord racist ? does he have a reason to hate a whole race of people ? well lets see-slavery of his children, lynchings, colonialism, unfair trade, starting wars for resources, starting religion and using his image as the image for the whole world to worship (white jesus), genocide of aborigines, native americans, and other indigineous people, capitalism, using people of color as experiment lab rats, using black babies as alligator baits, forcibly sterilizing black women on welfare, abortions,  world population control by deadly vaccines and AIDS etc etc. you still wonder why God says he hates esau ? you think he is racist ? or you think he has seen the future and the atrocities esau will commit on his earth

see while the lord allows esau to do all these evil things to you because you have turned away from him (job 9 vs 24, revelation 6 vs 4), he still is reserving the ultimate punishment for esau obadiah 1 vs 18, revelation 13 vs 10. or you think esau will get away with all his atrocities ? no. see he is using the satan in esau to unleash terror on his people because they still are hard headed and dont want to return to him. this is why you have europeans plundering and Desecrating africa. all these things you see happening in africa are physical manifestations of the spiritual world and not because the white man is smarter than you. the lord has uplifted him above you because you were slacking. the lord uplifted him so he will compile the biblical manuscripts into the bible. this way everyone can have a chance at salvation and you dont have to wait on nations to be the spiritual guide of the other nations. now with the bible, every man has a chance at his own salvation. this was why the white man was uplifted. to take on the job that jacob (israelites) ( black man) wasnt doing cuz he was too busy worshipping golden calfs and obatala. so for doing that job diligently the lord has promised esau that he will have his period of reign on earth called the reign of the gentiles. and seeing as esau is wicked as hell (job 9 vs 24) we are all mourning proverbs 29 vs 2. but when the reign of the gentiles finishes, the world will be handed back to jacob to rule the world righteously. just watch. 2nd esdras chapter 6 vs 9. or 2 esdras 6 vs 9 'For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth'.

buzugee:

the bible is a living book. the bible is definitely written by men inspired by God. God puts his spirit into select pious men and the spirit takes over their being and they write the bible manuscript. i can show you over 10 instances of specific events from the murder of ghaddafi, the capture of mubarak, how the continents got their names, why the white man is ruling the world, why black people are catching hell, how russia and china will bring about the collapse of america, dr martin luther kings speech etc etc. i can show you all these things in the bible. this is a living book. if you believe the bible is a living book and the words of God, then you cant pick and choose what you agree with and what you dont agree with. thats called cherry picking and that means you are not fully enmeshed with the lords word. you are still rebelling against the lord. you dont fully agree with his ways. this is what you are indiscreetly saying. lets pick out your points

The bible can - and has - been intepreted in so many ways to bend & fit so many ideaologies. The KKK have used it. The slave traders used it. The Crusaders used it amongst many many others. Yours is just one of a gadzillion intepretations - no be today .

And on the contrary, I would argue you're the one cherry picking . . . Do you read the New Testament? I find it hard you'd conclude as you have on these matters if you did.

1. you do not subscribe to some people being the chosen race ? deuteronomy 7 vs 6' For you are a holy people unto the LORD your God: the LORD your God has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth' . so basically you are calling God a liar

2. you say the lord does not favor people based on race ? malachi 1 vs 3, romans 9 vs 13. the lord is specifically saying he loves the descendants of jacob (israelites) and he is not so fond of the descendants of esau. thats racism right ? is the lord racist ? does he have a reason to hate a whole race of people ? well lets see-slavery of his children, lynchings, colonialism, unfair trade, starting wars for resources, starting religion and using his image as the image for the whole world to worship (white jesus), genocide of aborigines, native americans, and other indigineous people, capitalism, using people of color as experiment lab rats, using black babies as alligator baits, forcibly sterilizing black women on welfare, abortions, world population control by deadly vaccines and AIDS etc etc. you still wonder why God says he hates esau ? you think he is racist ? or you think he has seen the future and the atrocities esau will commit on his earth

Before I respond to the above, lemme ask again, and not that I cannot counter your points using the OT as well but do you read the New Testament? and consider it part of the bible? thanks.

JeSoul:

The bible can - and has - been intepreted in so many ways to bend & fit so many ideaologies. The KKK have used it. The slave traders used it. The Crusaders used it amongst many many others. Yours is just one of a gadzillion intepretations - no be today .

And on the contrary, I would argue you're the one cherry picking . . . Do you read the New Testament? I find it hard you'd conclude as you have on these matters if you did.
Before I respond to the above, lemme ask again, and not that I cannot counter your points using the OT as well but do you read the New Testament? and consider it part of the bible? thanks.

the kkk used it for what ? to enslave and lynch people (thou shall not kill) and to covet another mans property (thou shall not steal) and to covet another mans wife (raping slave women who were married) etc etc. you really are making an argument based on how the kkk and the crusaders used and interpreted the bible ?

i read the new testament as well as the old testament as well as the apocrypha. i read them all. they are all part of the bible. Jesus did not come to eradicate what is in the old testament. jesus came to eradicate the sacrificial laws. everything in the old testament stands.

buzugee:

the kkk used it for what ? to enslave and lynch people (thou shall not kill) and to covet another mans property (thou shall not steal) and to covet another mans wife (Desecrating slave women who were married) etc etc. you really are making an argument based on how the kkk and the crusaders used and interpreted the bible ?

  You're making my point for me. Practitioners of diverse ideaologies - both noble and ignoble - have and continue to use the bible as their justification. My point is anybody can make the bible say what they want it to say. Which is why as you said it is important to take the entire book in context and which is why I'm suprised you say you read the New Testament, these portions expand greatly on the subject of ¹what & ²who God's "chosen people" are . . .

Romans 9
God’s Selection of Israel

   1 With Christ as my witness, I speak with utter truthfulness. My conscience and the Holy Spirit confirm it. 2 My heart is filled with bitter sorrow and unending grief 3 for my people, my Jewish brothers and sisters. I would be willing to be forever cursed—cut off from Christ!—if that would save them. 4 They are the people of Israel, chosen to be God’s adopted children. God revealed his glory to them. He made covenants with them and gave them his law. He gave them the privilege of worshiping him and receiving his wonderful promises. 5 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

   6 Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God’s people! 7 Being descendants of Abraham doesn’t make them truly Abraham’s children. For the Scriptures say, “Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted,” though Abraham had other children, too. 8 This means that Abraham’s physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham’s children.
See the very direct language here about the error in assuming a particular race or a people as 'children of God'? Where/what you were born physically is irrelevant - Lets continue . . .

Acts 3
And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, 'Through your offspring [size=12pt]all peoples on earth will be blessed.' All peoples on the earth will be blessed . . . ALL. God's promise is for all - the Israelites were merely the heralds of the promise - it is not exclusive to them.

Gal 3:14
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. . . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
You see that? If you believe in Christ you are an "Israelite" and true heir of the kingdom.
 
Galatians 3:8
The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you."

How can you read all these scriptures and still conclude that God can be so petty as to simply hate a man, woman or child - simply because of where they were born? that is a truly unfortunate conclusion to arrive at.

JeSoul:

  You're making my point for me. Practitioners of diverse ideaologies - both noble and ignoble - have and continue to use the bible as their justification. My point is anybody can make the bible say what they want it to say. Which is why as you said it is important to take the entire book in context and which is why I'm suprised you say you read the New Testament, these portions expand greatly on the subject of ¹what & ²who God's "chosen people" are . . .

Romans 9
God’s Selection of Israel

   1 With Christ as my witness, I speak with utter truthfulness. My conscience and the Holy Spirit confirm it. 2 My heart is filled with bitter sorrow and unending grief 3 for my people, my Jewish brothers and sisters. I would be willing to be forever cursed—cut off from Christ!—if that would save them. 4 They are the people of Israel, chosen to be God’s adopted children. God revealed his glory to them. He made covenants with them and gave them his law. He gave them the privilege of worshiping him and receiving his wonderful promises. 5 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

   6 Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God’s people! 7 Being descendants of Abraham doesn’t make them truly Abraham’s children. For the Scriptures say, “Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted,” though Abraham had other children, too. 8 This means that Abraham’s physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham’s children.
See the very direct language here about the error in assuming a particular race or a people as 'children of God'? Where/what you were born physically is irrelevant - Lets continue . . . 

Acts 3
And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, 'Through your offspring [size=12pt]all peoples on earth will be blessed.' All peoples on the earth will be blessed . . . ALL. God's promise is for all - the Israelites were merely the heralds of the promise - it is not exclusive to them.

Gal 3:14
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. . . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
You see that? If you believe in Christ you are an "Israelite" and true heir of the kingdom.
 
Galatians 3:8
The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you."

How can you read all these scriptures and still conclude that God can be so petty as to simply hate a man, woman or child - simply because of where they were born? that is a truly unfortunate conclusion to arrive at.

i think we may have had our wires crossed somewhere. we are saying the exact same thing. i am sure you have not heard me mention that just because you are a lineage israelite that automatically you will be saved.  scripture says that on that day two thirds of lineage israelites will not make it. they shall be cut off. so let me re-iterate, nowhere have i ascribed automatic salvation to any lineage israelite. my point all along was to identify the lineage israelites but not to ascribe to them automatic salvation. there are two types of israelites. lineage israelites and spiritual israelites (adopted). spiritual israelites are members of the heathen nation who have faith in christ and obey his laws.

having said all that, God has hatred for nations of people as a whole because everybody within a nation bears almost the same xteristics. e.g everyone knows how prideful white people are ? the pride of edom. obadiah 1 vs 3. so as a whole, the lord likes some nations and hates some nations (romans 9 vs 13, obadiah 1 vs 18, malachi 1 vs 3). does not mean individual people from that nation can not be adopted as spiritual israelites but when he returns, he is going to destroy certain nations as a whole, while the spiritual israelites amongst them will be moved to safety. this is all am saying.

finally, i think you have not researched the role of the lineage israelites which is why you came to the conclusion you came to. the role of the lineage israelites is to bring salvation to all the heathen nations. meaning salvation is meant for anyone who recieves it. so i wonder why you assumed that i said only lineage israelites are promised salvation.

also another point you brought out about the children of abraham. well you do know that ishmaelites (arabs), ammonites (japs), moabites (chinese), edomites (whites) are all descendants of abraham. so what this your point means is that out of all these descendants, only the israelites are the children of God. the children of the promise are israelites

'This means that Abraham’s physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham’s children.'

Mr poster, have you read the [b]ISIS [/b]papers?

lepasharon:

Mr poster, have you read the [b]ISIS [/b]papers?

whats that ?

Its a book that condemns white ppl just like ur doing now

lepasharon:

Its a book that condemns white ppl just like ur doing now

nope i havent. i am not condemning white people. i am simply quoting the bible. got nothing against white people. my best friend is white

buzugee:

i think we may have had our wires crossed somewhere. we are saying the exact same thing. i am sure you have not heard me mention that just because you are a lineage israelite that automatically you will be saved. scripture says that on that day two thirds of lineage israelites will not make it. they shall be cut off. so let me re-iterate, nowhere have i ascribed automatic salvation to any lineage israelite. my point all along was to identify the lineage israelites but not to ascribe to them automatic salvation. there are two types of israelites. lineage israelites and spiritual israelites (adopted). spiritual israelites are members of the heathen nation who have faith in christ and obey his laws.

Lol. Wires crossed indeed. Thanks for clarifying that, and sorry I misunderstood you. I'm still a bit confused though but lets continue . . .

having said all that, God has hatred for nations of people as a whole because everybody within a nation bears almost the same xteristics. e.g everyone knows how prideful white people are ? the pride of edom. obadiah 1 vs 3. so as a whole, the lord likes some nations and hates some nations (romans 9 vs 13, obadiah 1 vs 18, malachi 1 vs 3). does not mean individual people from that nation can not be adopted as spiritual israelites but when he returns, he is going to destroy certain nations as a whole, while the spiritual israelites amongst them will be moved to safety. this is all am saying.

Hmm . . . pride is a universal characteristic my dear brother - I don't think any one nation has an overabundance of it. It started with Adam and has infected the entire human race. Every nation - including Israel - has shown given the power & opportunity will exhibit the same penchant for evil and greed.

But to clarify things even further and rather than I erroneously assuming anything else into evidence . . . can you please mention which nations in particular today are on God's black list? and which ones are not? and why? and what happens to the people in the nations on the 'white list' who do not accept God? Thank you in advance sir .

JeSoul:

Lol. Wires crossed indeed. Thanks for clarifying that, and sorry I misunderstood you. I'm still a bit confused though but lets continue . . .
Hmm . . . pride is a universal characteristic my dear brother - I don't think any one nation has an overabundance of it. It started with Adam and has infected the entire human race. Every nation - including Israel - has shown given the power & opportunity will exhibit the same penchant for evil and greed.

  But to clarify things even further and rather than I erroneously assuming anything else into evidence . . . can you please mention which nations in particular today are on God's black list? and which ones are not? and why? and what happens to the people in the nations on the 'white list' who do not accept God? Thank you in advance sir  .

individual pride may be universal but national pride ? white people. thats why they feel they can come into any country and change the leaders to whom they want. thats because they are the only race that believes everyone else is beneath them. thats why they read the bible and decided that no way are they letting the world know that the real jews and jesus were black (lamentations 4 vs 8, lamentations 5 vs 10, jeremiah 14 vs 2 job 30 vs 30 ). no sirrrrrrr we have to have the whole world worship our race. lets quickly change the image of jesus to white (even if we have to paint the image of a murderer called cesare borgia and pass him off as christ), never mind the fact that the bible described him as black with wooly hair. newer revised bibles are trying to change his image (text) too which is why you need the kJV 1611. (job 9 vs 24) this is why they name continents after themseves (psalms 49 vs 11) america after amerigo vespucci. africa after leo scipio africanus. the pride of edom has no comparison obadiah 1 vs 3.

nations on the hit list ? white people obadiah 1 vs 18
                                                            ethiopians (ancient babylonians) zephaniah 2 vs 12
                                                             ishmaelites (psalms 83) they are in cahoots with the edomites in stealing palestine from black people 70 AD
                                                              SOMALIANS (who are the ancient egyptians)
                                                               romans (well they are edomites lol. massacre of israelites in 70AD and chasing them out of the middle east into africa )
so basically anyone who put israel in slavery (revelation 13 vs 10).

if you are in a nation not on the black list, you still have to work out your own salvation. so just cuz your nation is not blacklisted does not mean you will make it automatically. you have to be in christ and have faith. the only difference is that the nations on the black list will be destroyed by fire. they will be raised to the ground. eliminated. destroyed. and the people who are in the nations that put israel in captivity (if they are not spiritual israelites) will be destroyed and killed in the fire and then they will be re-incarnated in the 3rd or fourth generation into slavery in heaven on earth. all the people from those nations will be the slaves of those who are in heaven (heaven is on earth not in the skies) (it will be done on earth as it is in heaven ) this is the scripture for their slavery in heaven (isaiah 14 vs 2 ). remember how it says, the lord is not mocked, what you reap is what you sow ? galatians 6 vs 7 ? well all those who had israel in slavery will fulfil that prophesy in heaven (isaiah 14 vs 2) (revelations 13 vs 10)

There's lots of truth to this thread. We are the chosen ones of YHWH. Read the old testament, that's our story. After Israel was annohilated by Romans, our ancestors fled to West Africa. But YHWH judgement is coming on those who have harmed is chosen people. And will deliver our enemies to our hand. SHALOM

This thread is based on wishful thinking and made up fables by black racists !!

Real Jews :

D_Psalmist:

There's lots of truth to this thread. We are the chosen ones of YHWH. Read the old testament, that's our story. After Israel was annohilated by Romans, our ancestors fled to West Africa. But YHWH judgement is coming on those who have harmed is chosen people. And will deliver our enemies to our hand. SHALOM

FINALLY. A voice of reason amidst a thicket of thorns like frosbel  frosbel has a secret crush on arab men. Shalom Brother

frosbel:

Real Jews

^
What makes them real? They could be false Jews for all we know.