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Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by babyboy3(m): 7:44am On Mar 05, 2012
But should be compared with the likes of Martin Luther, Mathma Gandhi, Theodore Rosevelt, Abraham Lincoln

These guys DIED for what they believed in, they fought to the END!!!,

They didnt runaway,  dont ever put Ojukwu and Martin Luther in the same sentence,
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by funshint(m): 7:46am On Mar 05, 2012
All these ethnic hatred is only on nairaland. I know how dis Okoros run after my car just to cum and buy their cheap spareparts. Mtschewww!!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by deshclones(m): 8:00am On Mar 05, 2012
funshint:

All these ethnic hatred is only on nairaland. I know how dis Okoros run after my car just to precipitate and buy their cheap spareparts. Mtschewww!!

i can imagine the kind of cars you cheap g4y slut drive smh undecided undecided undecided

@topic, its like comparing sleep and death, its not just possible, infact its an insult comparing both, Ikemba should be compared with the likes of Mandela. cool cool , Ngige is more revered in my books than Abiola, grin grin
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by Psalmuell: 8:04am On Mar 05, 2012
D guy dat posted dis thread is a big fool.read wat u posted ,does it make anysense 2 u ?if u get 2 knw who is more popular wat do u get 2 gain?n hw do we knw who is more popular ?am so dissappointed.didnt knw dat slowpoke were also allowed in dis site also.u shud rather ask ur father abt it *fuckin cunt*
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by iconaus: 8:09am On Mar 05, 2012
@c.fours . i am still maintaining my stance as why yorubas hate igbos to bone marrow citing the real spirit of an igbo man as  shown by Prof Nwosu to Abiola and that spirit is what i am preaching for having seen the write-ups in NL . It is way of alerting you guys to real igbo man spirit .Pointless saying that i have shown my true colours . Abiola and Ojukwu are two different people . We in the east voted for Abiola massively and that is another point you have to take home and stop the hate . To my yorubas friends , i ll still remain true friend to them here until i experience what i am reading in NL .
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by gfus: 8:34am On Mar 05, 2012
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by juman(m): 8:36am On Mar 05, 2012
Habahhhhhh.

M.K.O Abiola = Most popular Nigerian ever.

Money|Kudi|Owo. ABIOLA  grin grin

Despite that he was one of those that dragged the country to this stage of being a countryless country.
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by newslive(f): 8:41am On Mar 05, 2012
u should rather compare abiola to rochas

Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by anataala: 8:47am On Mar 05, 2012
hw can u compare and international bussiness man and also elected president that impact the lives of a common man with a rebel that is responsible for the death of over 1 million Nigerian- haba the are not thesame even kudirat as per as i am concern is better than ikemba, we thank God he died as Nigerian against his wish
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by ENEONWO(m): 8:53am On Mar 05, 2012
I wonder what d poster wants. In which area of human endeavour shall we compare them? I dont speak ill of the death. So, we can just do a little OBJECTIVE comparison. One is a living spirit who saved his people from total annihilation by the unjust rulership of Nigeria, the other fought for a post of convinience. One held d nation hostage for almost 3 years and brought international recognition to his people, the other won an election, but was simply cowered and cagged in the prison like a palm-civet cat. One retained the loyalty of ALL his associates to the end, the other lost the trust of many of his associates, including his presidential runinng mate. One died a gallant war-lord, in a prestigious, '5-Star' London hospital, and so died a hero, the other, like a typical glutton died of food poisoning, and so, died a chicken.
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by Digriz(m): 9:10am On Mar 05, 2012
ENEONWO:

I wonder what d poster wants. In which area of human endeavour shall we compare them? I dont speak ill of the death. So, we can just do a little OBJECTIVE comparison. One is a living spirit who saved his people from total annihilation by the unjust rulership of Nigeria, the other fought for a post of convinience. One held d nation hostage for almost 3 years and brought international recognition to his people, the other won an election, but was simply cowered and cagged in the prison like a palm-civet cat. One retained the loyalty of ALL his associates to the end, the other lost the trust of many of his associates, including his presidential runinng mate. One died a gallant war-lord, in a prestigious, '5-Star' London hospital, and so died a hero, the other, like a typical glutton died of food poisoning, and so, died a chicken.
a glutton? Oh my gawd!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by Gbigbon: 9:12am On Mar 05, 2012
There is no basis for comparison.  Both are heroes in their own respects.  One was a soldier who led his people in war against the rest of the country to protest the gruesome killings of his trible. The other was a business man and politician who fought to actualise his political victory after election.  So what is the basis for comparison.  We should as much as possible to discuss topics that will promote our unity and not issues that will continue to tear us apart.
Thank you.
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by igboboy1(m): 9:13am On Mar 05, 2012
anataala:

hw can u compare and[b] international bussiness man[/b] and also elected president that impact the lives of a common man with a rebel that is responsible for the death of over 1 million Nigerian- haba the are not thesame even kudirat as per as i am concern is better than ikemba, we thank God he died as Nigerian against his wish

hahaha Yoruba and their reasoning, is it this thief that is your idol?, No wonder oba of ile ife, akure, ogbomosho and ibadan were all invited and paid 10million naira by abduslami to not mention abio-ara again

sane people have heroes like ojukwu, mandela, luther king etc

Yoruba own na people with questionable characters such as abio-ara (thief #1), tinubu (drug peddler, thief #2), , tufiakwa, what a wierd tiger clawed race
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by ekwynwa: 9:20am On Mar 05, 2012
Abiola is a common criminal, he amounts to nothing that was why the then government treated him like a nuisance.

He was imprisoned, chained, tortured and poisoned to death like a nobody and no Yoruba man did poo.

Rather they were busy shamelessly collecting bribe from their slave masters (Hausa Fulani)

OBJ led govt, never eulogized Abiola for one day all through his 8 years in Aso Presidential villa. This singular act speaks volume about the person of Abiola and his place in the history of Nigeria

This ITT thief is a complete loser he died like a coward, buried like a chicken and is being given chicken treatment till date.

Ofemanus are slaves to Hausa Fulani and their SLAVES they shall perpetually remain
Abiola is a common thug,

nuff said cool

Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by nku5: 9:25am On Mar 05, 2012
Both were reluctant heroes whose different struggles will outlive them and haunt a cabal until it implodes or collapses
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by Reggie2(m): 9:27am On Mar 05, 2012
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Thank god [b]abiola did not left [/b]his people starved and run away like puzzy ojukwu. Ibo people open your Eye  ojukwu biafra is failed.  That's why other tribe treat guys like losers.

^^^^^^^

It is not a crime that some dudes did not go to school but but yoruba is also an official language. This boy will kill pesin with grama!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by igboboy1(m): 9:29am On Mar 05, 2012
ekwy nwa:

Abiola is a common criminal, he amounts to nothing that was why the then government treated him like a nuisance.

He was imprisoned, chained, tortured and poisoned to death like a nobody and no Yoruba man did poo.

Rather they were busy shamelessly collecting bribe from their slave masters (Hausa Fulani)

OBJ led govt, never eulogized Abiola for one day all through his 8 years in Aso Presidential villa. This singular act speaks volume about the person of Abiola and his place in the history of Nigeria

This ITT thief is a complete loser he died like a coward, buried like a chicken and is being given chicken treatment till date.

Ofemanus are slaves to Hausa Fulani and their SLAVES they shall perpetually remain
Abiola is a common thug,

nuff said cool


Nna Dalu, you hit the nail right on the head, these Yoruba people sef,
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by funshint(m): 9:41am On Mar 05, 2012
deshclones:

i can imagine the kind of cars you cheap g4y slut drive smh undecided undecided undecided

@topic, its like comparing sleep and death, its not just possible, infact its an insult comparing both, Ikemba should be compared with the likes of Mandela. cool cool , Ngige is more revered in my books than Abiola, grin grin
guess u're 1 of those okoros' who run after me 2 buy those sparecraps?!!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by Reptane: 9:43am On Mar 05, 2012
Am not an igbo or Yoruba person, It a mismatch to compare Ojukwu and Abiola, Ojukwu fought to defend his people but Abiola is one of those that destroyed this country and his fight against Abacha's govt was for his his own intrest and not for Nigerians.
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by tkb417(m): 9:44am On Mar 05, 2012
funshint:

guess u're 1 of those okoros' who run after me 2 buy those sparecraps?!!
lol
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by toksbee007: 9:49am On Mar 05, 2012
Bunch of idiot.idle mind u don't know what to do with ur time than gossip.no brain.
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by tkb417(m): 9:58am On Mar 05, 2012
@Topic

you wanna know who was popular with Nigerians?  How would you do that? lemme try

Ojukwu was a man of his people (Thats what we were made to believe) loved and hated by his people

Loved when he died but hated when he was alive. .  . He beckoned on the same set of people chanting his name after his death to vote for him but he lost the election.

On sick bed, he was alone in London unattended to but was given a state burial after he died grin grin grin

Abiola was popular cos he dined with almost everybody in power across the six geo political zones (for his personal interests) and paid dearly for it

If popularity is the reason for the thread, then MKO was loved by almost everybody while Ojukwu was loved after his demise (by the people that rejected him when he was alive)

If this isnt about popularity but about selflessness, political will/courage, and the will to impact positively on the lives of the people, Ojukwu is the man. yeah, MKO had his ideas for Nigeria but ill pick Ojukwu ahead of him. Taking up arms to fight a sovereign state to deliver his people from oppression is not a mean feat! (yeah he lost the war and fled but his attempt at salvaging his people far outweighs whatever plans MKO had for Nigeria)

im  yoruba man oh and all i wrote here is the way i feel about both of them. I might be wrong tho
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by humblebee: 10:03am On Mar 05, 2012
make una leave this man make him rest now,  haba! una sure say the body still dey intact so,  this one wey una dont carry am around the world,  bury this man and immortalise him. shikena
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by Jemibee: 10:08am On Mar 05, 2012
This isn't a reasonable post. Why try to compare 2 nigerian heroes? They stood for different causes and as such, both remain relevant in our history. Any answer in the favour of 1 against the other, to me, is biased!!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by drstone1: 10:19am On Mar 05, 2012
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Why Do Igbos Always Go Looking For Trouble?
Written by  Ozodi Osuji Ph.D

 
Why Do Igbos Always Go Looking For Trouble?

There is something in the psychological makeup of Igbos that makes them always go looking for trouble. In the calmest of circumstances they will always do something that would annoy those around them, create conflict and then live in conflict; they seem to enjoy living in conflicts.

As it were, they seem to have death wish and do things that would make those around them to attack them, and or kill them hence gratify their death wish (thanatos).

Consider their relationship with their neighbors. Invariably they would say or do something that even a child knows would irritate those neighbors and do it as if they do not know that such actions irritate people. Consider Obi Nwankanma’s concocted historiography. The man is apparently writing a history of Igbos (as gleaned from the snippets of it that he posts on the Internet). Invariably, he would make claims to the effect that Igbos stimulated what their neighbors did or he would make Igbos have credit for what other Nigerian tribes did. And he would make these self-serving bogus claims as if they are true. He is, of course, lying but presents his lies as if they are substantiated truths! The man writes history as propaganda!

Taking credit for what other tribes did diminish those tribes self-respect; they feel attacked and angry at him and by generalization at all Igbos. Thus, the man’s private behavior has negative public consequences for most Igbos, for other Nigerians who feel insulted by him (in a country where folks indulge in stereotyping behaviors, by all Igbos) attack any Igbo in sight.

And this misguided man is not the only one doing what he does; many Igbos do it. Consider their unreasoning response to Frederick Lugard and his British cohorts.  Britons created what is now called Nigeria in 1914. Igbos who hitherto did not have a nation were for the first time placed under one administrative unit hence given a sense of being one people. But instead of being grateful to Lugard for hastening their sense of oneness some foolish Igbos call Nigeria Lugard’s cage; that is to say that they feel caged in a place they would rather not be in.

They flock to other parts of that Lugard’s cage to seek employment! The Yorubas allowed them to come to Lagos, a Yoruba city. Now many of them live at Lagos. Instead of expressing gratitude to their Yoruba hosts some of them now claim that Lagos is an Igbo city! Imagine that cheek!

Yorubas could feel insulted by squatters claiming ownership of their land and attack and kill a few of them and the rest of them would carry their loads on their sorry heads and march to the East. They would not even have the courage to stand and fight to death. When the going gets tough they always run to their tribal enclave.

These people routinely insult Hausas and Hausas, not being as patient as Yorubas are, often pick up their machetes and start slashing at any Igbo in sight.

These people literally ask other people to attack them and when attacked they turn around and see themselves as victims. Alas, the rest of the world does not come to their rescue!

The white man could care less if Africans murdered other Africans, if in doubt see the Sudan, Somalia and East Congo where Africans, as we speak, are butchering each other and the International community give them all the opportunity they need to get rid of themselves from the face of this earth (and leave the damn continent for animals so that white men come on wild life safaris in it).

If other Nigerians start murdering Igbos no African Union or United Nations would come to their rescue and even if they did they would send African soldiers, who are likely to be Muslims and hence participate in killing Igbos some more!

These people are not aware of the real world they live in and talk as if they are invulnerable supermen when in fact they are the most vulnerable group of Nigerians (other Nigerians hate their arrogance and could easily gang up on them and do away with them).

So why do Igbos do these crazy things when they could have peaceful relationship with their neighbors?  Why do they go looking for trouble (as Fela Kuti said, trouble de sleep” iyanga” de look for am)?

Fela  recognized that pride (iyanga)causes interpersonal troubles; Igbos are” inordinately proud” and out of their pride insult other folks and those folks also being “normally proud” human beings (all human beings feel proud, in degrees; the neurotic, aka narcissistic and or paranoid personality feels inordinately proud)feel degraded and attack them.

Fela was an insightful musician, not trained psychologist. There is a more psychological process at work in these people’s apparent irrational behavior.  They do what they do because of their inordinate sense of inferiority.

Feeling totally inferior and wanting to seem fictionally superior to other persons they make claims that would seem to make them seem superior to other people. Those absurd claims naturally make those they belittle angry, and those attack them.

INFERIORITY FEELING

I am saying that Igbos go looking for trouble because of their sense of inferiority and paranoid level of compensatory superiority (according to Alfred Adler, all human beings feel inferior and compensate with some superiority feeling and quest for power over their world,  but the neurotic over does it).

DEATH WISH (OR FREUD’S THANATOS)

It is as if these people have a death wish and must attack other people so as to generate other people’s counter attacks on them, and when attacked they feel persecuted hence feel alive. The pathological ego feels alive when persecuted!

The paranoid person feels alive when he feels attacked and is defensive; if not feeling attacked and persecuted and defensive he does not feel like he is alive!

The paranoid person has not yet learned that a person can feel even more alive by loving himself and those around him. If you want to truly feel alive do what loves other people and what serves people’s interests.

The alternative to Christian agape love for all people is the paranoid attacks on people that generate counter attack for him and he gets attacked and in defending his self feels falsely alive.

For the longest time I could not quite understand this oddity in many Igbos behavior. Finally, I understood it. They engage in their apparent self-defeating behaviors because of mental disorder. They suffer mass delusion disorder (follies adieu, aka group paranoia).

The deluded person takes his private interpretation of reality as reality. He wants to seem superior and powerful, which he is not; he imagines that he is superior and powerful; believes what is not true as true hence is deluded.

The mentally ill person is not operating in the real world; he is living in his personal world, his fantasy world where he is all powerful and invincible.

The sadist part of it all is that even if you understand the dynamics of what is going on in the deluded person’s head and tell him about it he does not get it and continues doing what he does that gives him certain results and continues to get the same results while expecting different results.

Igbos insult other people, make them angry; they get attacked and or killed. They do not want to be attacked and killed; that is, they want different results but they keep doing what generates the old results and get it. This is the definition of mental disorder: doing the same thing while expecting different results. An alcoholic keeps drinking but does not expect to damage his liver and health; poor soul; as long as he is addicted to his drug of choice he must be slowly damaging his liver, brains and killing himself even though he wishes to be healthy and live.

I know that these people are not going to change for part of mental disorder is not to see what is obvious to the normal person. The normal person, as if instinctively, recognizes that if you insult folks that they would be angry at you and that some of them would attack you, but these bizarre folks keep attacking others (by insulting them) and not expecting them to counter attack them in self-defense.

They do not know what they are doing and one is wasting one’s time trying to get them to recognize the obvious.

I suppose this is my mission: to keep stating the obvious until those who wear blinders finally remove their veil and see it; remove the mask over their eyes and see reality as it is. I will never give up on them after all they are my people, and attacks on them, even if self-brought, are attack on me (when folks begin attacking or killing Igbos they will attack or kill me, too). The sins of fathers are visited on their children’s heads. Therefore, I must keep trying to help them smell the coffee and roses.

A FINAL WORD ON OBI NWANKAMA’S PRETENSIONS

Obi Nwankanma, apparently, is writing history, make belief history of Igbos. He has been talking smack about Nri as core Igbos (obviously a self-serving claim). His idiotic talk is irritating me. One of these days I would unleash my fury at him. I generally allow annoying things to simmer for a while and when I become sufficiently angry I unleash a ferocious attack and will keep attacking and nothing would stop me.  By and by I will take Obi Nwakanma up and attack to destroy his pretensions.

These clowns write 419 histories that make their people the head of Igbos while ignoring the obvious, that the core of Alaigbo is Owerri.  When I have some time I will do rigorous research on Igbo history and then refute their make believe history (I just read Elizabeth Isichie‘s version of Igbo history; she is not pretentious and haughty; she honestly believed what she wrote; she is a scholar, not a propagandist pretending to be a scholar).

For now let me just say that it is irritating to one to see those who are not even fully Igbos to keep talking as if they are real Igbos and worse present themselves as the leaders of Igbos (they were influenced by surrounding non-Igbo folks; the real Igbos are in core Igbo land, in the Igbo heartland, Owerri/Orlu axis. (Owerri must eventually become the capital of one unified Alaigbo state in Nigeria or Alaigbo republic should Nigeria breakup).

The time allotted to foreigners, such as Onicha/Edo folk, rule over Igbos is over.

Most history books are written as songs of praises to the people they are written about hence are hardly objective. That been said, if one is writing a history of one’s entire people one ought to make an honest attempt to be fairly objective rather than write claptrap that sings the praises of one section of the people. Just imagine it: everyone knows that Owerri is the core Igbo but clowns from non-Owerri area pretend to write Igbo history and not give central place to Owerri.

Even the much maligned white colonial folk recognized that Owerri is core Igbo hence made Owerri dialect the central Igbo dialect in their books on Igbo language. But buffoons from non-Owerri area write as if their peripheral areas are central to Igbo history and in their idiocy expect Owerri folks to accept their nonsense.  Why, it is supposed to be Igbo history and every Igbo ought to accept it even if it is a bunch of lies.

When I am free to pay attention to history I will descend on these clowns like a ton of hot coal. Their contrived, 419 scam history of Igbos cannot be allowed to stand



Ozodi Osuji Ph.D

Ozodi Thomas Osuji is from Imo State, Nigeria. He obtained his PhD from UCLA. He taught at a couple of Universities and decided to go back to school and study psychology. Thereafter, he worked in the mental health field and was the Executive Director of two mental health agencies. He subsequently left the mental health environment with the goal of being less influenced by others perspectives, so as to be able to think for himself and synthesize Western, Asian and African perspectives on phenomena. Dr Osuji’s goal is to provide us with a unique perspective, one that is not strictly Western or African but a synthesis of both. Dr Osuji teaches, writes and consults on leadership, management, politics, psychology and religions. Dr Osuji is married and has three children; he lives at Seattle, Washington, USA.

He can be reached at: Ozodi@africainstituteseattle.org ; ozodiosuji@yahoo.ca  (206) 853-4245

Nwanne Ozodi Thomas Osuji, the greatest Ibo man that ever walked this planet!!!!


This is the Whole Truth. I hope every sincere IGbo man can Learn from this Ozodi Thomas Guy. If care is not taken,by the way younger Igbo generation are going, they may repeat the Pride and Arrogance that saw them loose in a shameful way in BIAFRA despite having initial sympathy!  The PROUD and BOASTFUL nature of the IGBO man is Abhorrent and Reprehensible. you find this trait even in the most illiterate and poor amongst them. Talkless when he has a little money, that Complex will become too obvious.  Even in their marriages, should an Ibo Woman be financially privileged more than her husband, she becomes untameable. I have actually counselled a lot in this area. Think of it, if Nigeria actually Breaks up eventually where will ALL the IgBO go??. , [/b]They have no land that can contain them and we all how they fight amongst themselves for the available parches of land that have not suffered Erosion. Would they migrate to Ijaw, Efik or Bini territory or even the Yoruba they are subtly denigrating in their numbers, Can you imagine what social tensions it will create? [b]When whole masses of People begin to compete for finite resources of Land, Jobs, Markets, Businesses, Political Appointments with other people, and IN THEIR TERRITORIES. I dont want to even imagine what will happen, not especially with the prevailing Igbo man's psychology and the negative stories their parents fed into them after the WAR!  We should thank God for a forum like NAiraland which any discerning reader might come to and feel the pulse of how different people really feel on issues., , and be Guided. One of my mentors told me of why the minority tribes hate the Igbo man during the War!,, The Igbo Man's Arrogance! As a non IBO it was difficult for him to Enter UNN in The Early 70's despite being from the East; But UI offered them a place. During the War, the igbo men who were in Majority began to extinguish their few enlightened SOns in hope of A complete TakeOver and domination if Biafra should have succeeded, it was some of these neigbours taht correctly interpreted the intentions of Ojukwu who swung to the nigerian side and showed the nigerian army the secret paths to Igbo land.  BIAFRA is A FAILED IDEA- and it is ignominously represented by the Picture of starving Biafrans and OJUKWU FLEEING AWAY IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT disGUISED as a WOMAN!! What a Shame!!   The  IGBO should not mistake the Solidarity and Support from Southern Minorities for stupidity.  Before, you leap, watch! I think that while the igbo may be Industrious and action oriented, they Lack people Skills and social culture to win others especially wherever you have a sizeable number of them or where they have a little money to throw around- It is ALWAYS their Achilles Heel, hope they guide against this.  PRIDE always goes before a FALL!!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by angeltt(m): 10:21am On Mar 05, 2012
Both of them were both influential in the nigerian society. Abiola stood for peace while Ojukwu stood for fairness, justice, equality and respect for Human Existence.
Ojukwu's burial is of no equal to any so Nigeria is concerened and Africa @ large. The only man whose death can surpass that is Nelson Mandela of South Africa.

they both are part of our History because Nigerian history will be incomplete without the mention of their names.[i][/i][color=#006600][/color] cool
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by angeltt(m): 10:22am On Mar 05, 2012
Both of them were both influential in the nigerian society. Abiola stood for peace while Ojukwu stood for fairness, justice, equality and respect for Human Existence.
Ojukwu's burial is of no equal to any so Nigeria is concerened and Africa @ large. The only man whose death can surpass that is Nelson Mandela of South Africa.

they both are part of our History because Nigerian history will be incomplete without the mention of their names.
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by ijeebest: 10:24am On Mar 05, 2012
tkb417:

@Topic

you wanna know who was popular with Nigerians?  How would you do that? lemme try

Ojukwu was a man of his people (Thats what we were made to believe) loved and hated by his people

Loved when he died but hated when he was alive. .  . He beckoned on the same set of people chanting his name after his death to vote for him but he lost the election.

On sick bed, he was alone in London unattended to but was given a state burial after he died grin grin grin

Abiola was popular cos he dined with almost everybody in power across the six geo political zones (for his personal interests) and paid dearly for it

If popularity is the reason for the thread, then MKO was loved by almost everybody while Ojukwu was loved after his demise (by the people that rejected him when he was alive)

If this isnt about popularity but about selflessness, political will/courage, and the will to impact positively on the lives of the people, Ojukwu is the man. yeah, MKO had his ideas for Nigeria but ill pick Ojukwu ahead of him. Taking up arms to fight a sovereign state to deliver his people from oppression is not a mean feat! (yeah he lost the war and fled but his attempt at salvaging his people far outweighs whatever plans MKO had for Nigeria)

im  yoruba man oh and all i wrote here is the way i feel about both of them. I might be wrong tho


This is just the most brilliant post to this useless thread. My brother, you just summarized this whole argument. May God bless you. @ops, please think well before you start any tribalistic thread
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by drstone1: 10:29am On Mar 05, 2012
This is the Whole Truth. I hope every sincere IGbo man can Learn from this Ozodi Thomas Guy. If care is not taken,by the way younger Igbo generation are going, they may repeat the Pride and Arrogance that saw them loose in a shameful way in BIAFRA despite having initial sympathy!  The PROUD and BOASTFUL nature of the IGBO man is Abhorrent and Reprehensible. you find this trait even in the most illiterate and poor amongst them. Talkless when he has a little money, that Complex will become too obvious.  Even in their marriages, should an Ibo Woman be financially privileged more than her husband, she becomes untameable. I have actually counselled a lot in this area. Think of it, if Nigeria actually Breaks up eventually where will ALL the IgBO go??. , They have no land that can contain them and we all how they fight amongst themselves for the available parches of land that have not suffered Erosion. Would they migrate to Ijaw, Efik or Bini territory or even the Yoruba they are subtly denigrating in their numbers, Can you imagine what social tensions it will create?Huh When whole masses of People begin to compete for finite resources of Land, Jobs, Markets, Businesses, Political Appointments with other people, and IN THEIR TERRITORIES. I dont want to even imagine what will happen, not especially with the prevailing Igbo man's psychology and the negative stories their parents fed into them after the WAR!  We should thank God for a forum like NAiraland [/bwhere any discerning reader might come to and feel the pulse of how different people really feel on issues., ,  and be Guided. One of my mentors told me of why the minority tribes hate the Igbo man during the War!,, [b]The Igbo Man's Arrogance! As a non IBO it was difficult for him to Enter UNN in The Early 70's despite being from the East; But UI offered them a place. During the War, the igbo men who were in Majority amongst their community began to extinguish the few enlightened SOns of the Minority tribes that hosted them in hope of A complete TakeOver and domination were Biafra should have succeeded, it was some of these neighbors that correctly interpreted the intentions of Ojukwu who swung to the Nigerian side and showed the Nigerian army the secret paths to Ndi-Igbo land.  BIAFRA is A FAILED IDEA- and it is ignominiously represented by the Picture of starving Biafrans and OJUKWU FLEEING AWAY IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT disguised as a WOMAN!! What a Shame!!   The  IGBO should not mistake the Solidarity and Support from Southern Minorities for stupidity.  Before, you leap, watch! I think that while the igbo may be Industrious and action oriented, they Lack people Skills and social culture to win others especially wherever you have a sizeable number of them or where they have a little money to throw around- It is ALWAYS their Achilles Heel, hope they guide against this.  PRIDE always goes before a FALL!!
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by ACM10: 10:32am On Mar 05, 2012
dr stone:


This is the Whole Truth. I hope every sincere IGbo man can Learn from this Ozodi Thomas Guy. If care is not taken,by the way younger Igbo generation are going, they may repeat the Pride and Arrogance that saw them loose in a shameful way in BIAFRA despite having initial sympathy!  The PROUD and BOASTFUL nature of the IGBO man is Abhorrent and Reprehensible. you find this trait even in the most illiterate and poor amongst them. Talkless when he has a little money, that Complex will become too obvious.  Even in their marriages, should an Ibo Woman be financially privileged more than her husband, she becomes untameable. I have actually counselled a lot in this area. Think of it, if Nigeria actually Breaks up eventually where will ALL the IgBO go??. , [/b]They have no land that can contain them and we all how they fight amongst themselves for the available parches of land that have not suffered Erosion. Would they migrate to Ijaw, Efik or Bini territory or even the Yoruba they are subtly denigrating in their numbers, Can you imagine what social tensions it will create? [b]When whole masses of People begin to compete for finite resources of Land, Jobs, Markets, Businesses, Political Appointments with other people, and IN THEIR TERRITORIES. I dont want to even imagine what will happen, not especially with the prevailing Igbo man's psychology and the negative stories their parents fed into them after the WAR!  We should thank God for a forum like NAiraland which any discerning reader might come to and feel the pulse of how different people really feel on issues., ,  and be Guided. One of my mentors told me of why the minority tribes hate the Igbo man during the War!,, The Igbo Man's Arrogance! As a non IBO it was difficult for him to Enter UNN in The Early 70's despite being from the East; But UI offered them a place. During the War, the igbo men who were in Majority began to extinguish their few enlightened SOns in hope of A complete TakeOver and domination if Biafra should have succeeded, it was some of these neigbours taht correctly interpreted the intentions of Ojukwu who swung to the nigerian side and showed the nigerian army the secret paths to Igbo land.  BIAFRA is A FAILED IDEA- and it is ignominously represented by the Picture of starving Biafrans and OJUKWU FLEEING AWAY IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT disGUISED as a WOMAN!! What a Shame!!   The  IGBO should not mistake the Solidarity and Support from Southern Minorities for stupidity.  Before, you leap, watch! I think that while the igbo may be Industrious and action oriented, they Lack people Skills and social culture to win others especially wherever you have a sizeable number of them or where they have a little money to throw around- It is ALWAYS their Achilles Heel, hope they guide against this.  PRIDE always goes before a FALL!!


You don't see things the way it it, but the way you are
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by babyboy3(m): 10:36am On Mar 05, 2012
Under the Geneva, and Genocide Conventions Article 22 of The Hague IV ("Laws of War: Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV);

Ikemba Ojukwu is a war criminal and should be charged for war crimes, but hey too late for that,
Re: Ikemba Ojukwu Vs M.K.O Abiola: Who Is More Popular In Nigeria? by OnlyRebel: 10:37am On Mar 05, 2012
NL at it again. How can one compare a criminal and coward named ojukwu whose funeral was of mixed feelings. A forgoten whose dead only brought sympathy. It is the dead that people honour not coward like ojukwu. Abiola is a Yoruba war general (Aare Ona kakanfo). He fought till the end despite living a life adorn with honour, fame and riches. His struggle make a Military dictator (Babangida-the Maradona) unpopular. His struggle rendered Nigeria ungovernable for years. His struggle totered Nigeria to a path of collapse. His struggle cause the death of Nigeria most feared military totalitarian, a general in Army (Late Sanni Abacha). His struggle bring democracy to the shoreline of Nigeria. The only Nigerian that ever won free and fear election. Arguably the best election in Black-Africa. On muslim-muslim ticket with overwhelming turnout from all parts of Nigeria from N,NE,NC,NW,SW,SE,SS. When will Nigeria witness this avalanche in her political history again.

Ojukwu, an oxford graduate and Major in the Nigerian Army that led his people to a war without intelligence. A commander that fled the frontline, abandoning thousands of his men and millions of civilian that believes in his propaganda war to face "mid-night sun". Ojukwu as a failled soldier, equally unachieving politician that can not win his people (Biafra) votes. Never mention ojukwu in the league of Chief Bashorun Moshood Kasimawo Olawale Abiola. The Bashorun whose course change Nigeria course of History forever.

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