How can some1 be more tempted in the house of God than on the streets??it beats my imagination how girls wear skimpy things to church to confuse and tempt their brothers in the lord, mayb churches should introduce dress codes, hmmmm!!

Thou shall not look after a lady in skimpy skirt for doing so you will burn in hell

temptation is not external its internal. as much as its importsnt to dress modetstrly to Gods glory but. its not about temptation. a man lusting after a lady in skimpy dress will still lust after a woman in wrapper.

Jam 1:14
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
� KJVStrongs

Genesis 3:6
"When the woman saw that
the fruit of the tree was good for food
and pleasing to the eye, and also
desirable for gaining wisdom, she took
some and ate it. She also gave some to
her husband, who was with her, and he
ate it"
It is interesting and infact instructive to note this important point ". . . when the woman SAW THAT THE FRUIT. . . WAS GOOD FOR FOOD AND PLEASING TO THE EYES AMD ALSO DESIRABLE FOR GAINING WISDOM (then). . . SHE TOOK SOME AND ATE IT"
Firstly she looked and then saw, secondly her mind corroborated and complimented what her eyes saw then finally, her mobile faculties couldn't resist she then made an effort to get the fruit and eat. Note nobody forced her, nobody got it for her.
The church is not excluded from temptations afterall if there is any place satan will sytematically and strategically not forget to supply morethan enough temptations is to church but what many don't understand is that TEMPTATION IS RELATIVE, SUBJECT ONLY TO RESPONSE AND RESPONSE IS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION OF THE MIND. . . QUESTION; WHAT IS THE STATE OF YOUR MIND?
In the church people are trained and thought to be moderate in their dressing but when some don't then what do you do at this point the state of your mind is brought to bear.
People who complain of falling into temptations with the flimzy and irresponsible excuse of o that lady dressed in such and such manner have a problem with their minds being corrupted(check it many of them are issues little wonder why they notice it because they are thinking o outside the church l was tempted now even inside the church again so he feels frustrated) afterall that is external aren't we suppose to live from the inside out

Joagbaje:

temptation is not external its internal. as much as its importsnt to dress modetstrly to Gods glory but. its not about temptation. a man lusting after a lady in skimpy dress will still lust after a woman in wrapper.

Jam 1:14
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
� KJVStrongs

Temptation certainly IS external. Consider the verses below:

Mat 4:1 - Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
1 Thes 3:5 - For this reason,  I [Paul] sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter might have tempted you and our efforts might have been useless.

The devil also uses people to tempt and distract others and girls wearing revealing in church is an example of this.

Churches must begin to create more awareness of the distraction and temptation certain modes of attire cause amoungst the congregation and advise girls that God will not judge them lightly if they continue allowing themselves to act as the devil's tool.

Very matured and sensible replies i must say, @ Joagbaje no matter the logic you come up with,temptation can be both internal and external,a brother in church in deep worship will surely be distracted when his eyes accidentaly settles on a sister with mini top and all her boobs pooping out,same with a pastor who is on the alter ministering and sees a sister with mini skirt and all her laps showing,we are humans not gods, @Grey beard,thank you very much,our pastors and bishops must not keep silent on this issue or else God will hold them responsible,when moses saw his people drifting towards idolatory he threw the tablet on the golden calf to register his displeasure but today that can not be said of most of our pastors,they rather not preach against immorality

@grey Bead: The devil also uses people to tempt and distract others and girls wearing revealing in church is an example of this.

God will bless you for this truth.

@thread, If the socalled Pastors truelly seek souls for Christ they will boldly preach the truth to the congregations.
Their fear is to loose members. Whats the use having uncountable pretending members in a church?  After all, Christ called his true followers in ( (Luke 12:32) "LITTLE FLOCK"

The dressing code must starts from the Top. Does the Pastor his wife appear decent? I believe they should show good example first. If they do, then they can openly without fear or favour rebuke this kind of fellows with intention to put fire in the house of God. Despirate girls are dangerous in the Church they should be wiped out with confronts.

You don't have to look.
Cut of your eyes.
The girls have EVERY right to wear what they want to wear.
If you are a psycho, you are a psycho. . .it does not matter what a woman wears.
Period.

Even babies in diapers will turn you on. A state of the mind.
How do you get tempted by 'skimpy' clothes without even knowing the females involved?
It is your blokos that is getting tempted not your mind. Tame the animal in you.

@Grey Beard

Grey Beard:

Temptation certainly IS external. Consider the verses below:

Mat 4:1 - Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.
1 Thes 3:5 - For this reason,  I [Paul] sent to find out about your faith. I was afraid that in some way the tempter might have tempted you and our efforts might have been useless.

The temptation of Christ was inside as well. It is at the thought realm. The devil didn't carry Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple. Remember he stayed in the wilderness for 40 days

Mark 1:13
13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Question :How did he get to the temple ? Answer = in his mind. The devil was suggesting thoughts into his mind.

James 1:14
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Hebrews 4:15
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

The devil also uses people to tempt and distract others and girls wearing revealing in church is an example of this

James 1:14
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Churches must begin to create more awareness of the distraction and temptation certain modes of attire cause amoungst the congregation and advise girls that God will not judge them lightly if they continue allowing themselves to act as the devil's tool.

The church will teach propper dressing and modesty, but the church cannot turn people back from church because of theor attire. It's Indiscipline that is the issue with  some men. Temptation is not what someone wears. You will meet skimpy dress in school, in the bus , in the supermarket.

The skimper needs renewal of mind. Bros also needs renewal of mind and not blaming his carnal thought on someone else.

What should a doctor do handling a woman sensitive part ? Discipline. That's what bros need.

Not suprised at joagbaje's contribution here as most cec girls(his customers) are known to dress like pros.titutes during their charade which they label church service. They actually encourage their girls to dress this wat as it also attracts guys looking for cheap girls to attend their church. At the end of the day it's all business keep your customer's happy by indulging them and not offending them this would lead to increased customer base which translates to more tithes, offerings, seed sowing, partnership e.t.c

Stop lying against CEC . If there any church that dresses corporately it's CEC. You see the videos don't you? . It's  mostly suits and tie that seems to be almost official attire .

Pastor Kun:

They actually encourage their girls to dress this wat as it also attracts guys looking for cheap girls to attend their church. At the end of the day it's all business keep your customer's happy by indulging them and not offending them this would lead to increased customer base which translates to more tithes, offerings, seed sowing, partnership e.t.c

See your dirty mind. God will raise a gospel minister under you one day. You will be humbled.

If there any church that dresses corporately it's CEC. You see the videos don't you? . It's  mostly suits and tie that seems to be almost official attire .

Sir the only Church that fits in the bolded is Deeper Life Ministry. Though there are others in this Category, but very few.
We are not talking about Pastors suits and tie here, but the Ladies. Most of these ladies actually do this to attract single brothers of course, but they ignore the fact that, there are likewise married brothers in the Church.
When u face some of them with the truth, their responds is, i beg leave me oo, i never marry oo. Or how i go take sell na! They believe it work for them so they will keep this system hence the Church is silent about it. The truth is that, This act is intentional period.

Sometimes its intentional, sometimes its bad dress sense.

I'm not sure what people stand to gain by dressing half n.aked to church. If perchance you seduce someone, do you think you wont still rue it later?

Unless you be witch sent to scatter the place sha.

Joagbaje:

@Grey Beard

The temptation of Christ was inside as well. It is at the thought realm. The devil didn't carry Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple. Remember he stayed in the wilderness for 40 days

So you agree that it tempatation is not just internal like you said in your earlier post. Good.

Joagbaje:
Mark 1:13
13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Question :How did he get to the temple ? Answer = in his mind. The devil was suggesting thoughts into his mind.

Temple? What Temple?? Are we talking about the same thing here

Joagbaje:

The church will teach propper dressing and modesty, but the church cannot turn people back from church because of theor attire. It's Indiscipline that is the issue with  some men. Temptation is not what someone wears. You will meet skimpy dress in school, in the bus , in the supermarket.

The skimper needs renewal of mind. Bros also needs renewal of mind and not blaming his carnal thought on someone else.

What should a doctor do handling a woman sensitive part ? Discipline. That's what bros need.

In your earlier post you sanctimoniously laid the blame for tempatation on the person being tempted but now you are admitting that it works both ways.
And it does. Yes both are to blame. But does your church teach proper dressing and modesty? I think not.

Also, you'll agree that if Jesus Christ can be tempted then all men from the ordinary to the most spritually can also be tempted. Jesus set an example by not giving in to the temptation that the devil presented. But in churches there are man of different levels of spiritual growth and obviously some will give in to temptation easier than others. You may go out to work and see many lustful temptations but that is the last thing that anyone should expect to encounter in the church from other church goers - especially when the church should be amoungst other things an athmosphere for spiritual growth.

I'm not suggesting churches start turning people away who dress inappropriately but if pastors laid half as much emphasis on this problem as they do on selling their wares then I guarantee it would disappear overnight.

yes, the church can teach proper dressing and modesty since many people these days dont know what those are.


we had such workshops back in nigeria [in women's groups and the like] but maybe not anymore.

Pastor Kun:

Not suprised at joagbaje's contribution here as most cec girls(his customers) are known to dress like pros.titutes during their charade which they label church service. They actually encourage their girls to dress this wat as it also attracts guys looking for cheap girls to attend their church. At the end of the day it's all business keep your customer's happy by indulging them and not offending them this would lead to increased customer base which translates to more tithes, offerings, seed sowing, partnership e.t.c

GBAM GBAAAM!

JoAgbaje on the defensive,

Job 1:6" Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and satan came also among them.
The agents of darkness are in the church, they are after the church to pull it down, they have been commissioned to carry out certain assignments, to pull down a true child of God, and also MOG. They will not wait for you to destroy them, they will appear in the church to cause trouble. It is only an ignorant christian that will joke with them.
As a church what we need to do is to control this seductive dressing, and expose them, this way they will caution themselves whenever they are coming to church.
Of course, we cannot stop them from coming to the church, we cannot also allow our weak brethren especially the youths to be corrupted with unholy dressing, what we need to do and already MFM is doing it, they will allow them to come to the church, if they are in the front of the church, to fire arrow of lust against the preacher, the ushers will kindly caution them to move to the back, if they insist, there are task force groups in the church to deal with them. You know, they can be very stubborn. Mfm will allow them to come, after some time they will advise them to change their skimpy dresses, they will give them better dresses that cover their unclothedness. This way, they will think twice before coming to the church in such a horrible manner.
It is a difficult topic, why? The church will be accused of lack of love, but the church is wiser than them. That is why people speak against the church about things they know nothing about. They criticized MOG as if they are kids. God will help us.
God bless you. God2man.

Pastor Kun:

Not suprised at joagbaje's contribution here as most cec girls(his customers) are known to dress like pros.titutes during their charade which they label church service. They actually encourage their girls to dress this wat as it also attracts guys looking for cheap girls to attend their church. At the end of the day it's all business keep your customer's happy by indulging them and not offending them this would lead to increased customer base which translates to more tithes, offerings, seed sowing, partnership e.t.c

What you say is absolutely true!
I've seen that kind of "capture" faithful and "save souls"
Well, I guess anything goes in order to comply with the law of the Lord ,
But the worst part is that I have seen a pastor (woman) , who preaches a very short skirt, sits down and ,  well ,  you may already  imagine that image as she speaks of the sin of the flesh ,
Absolute contradiction.