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Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by mrpataki(m): 7:07pm On Nov 07, 2007

@ folem,
What is the economic input of this scheme to the National economy?

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by IykeD1(m): 7:37pm On Nov 07, 2007

I told you guys before that this rule of law with no common sense"
will bring trouble oooo !!!!!

So you guys are telling me that if I "make the mistake" of moving back
and wanting to represent my people in Delta State, the NYSC stunt will
be pulled on me? OKAY, make una keep the position !!!!

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by Iman3(m): 8:19pm On Nov 07, 2007

While I don't see the point of the NYSC program,however,as long it exists,anybody putting himself forward for such a high profile position must comply with the neccessary requirements.If you have a "dodgy" NYSC background,then you shouldn't be running for Speaker

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by McKren(m): 8:30pm On Nov 07, 2007

Why should our system haunt 40yr olds and over with a mistake they made probably 20years ago.

Why should an idea passed into a decree without proper referendum by a group of generals terminate people's ambition to serve their fatherland in modern and democratic Nigeria

that law is outdated (I served and thought Mathematics for full 1 year but I also think it is outdated and should not be compulsory)

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by dafman(m): 8:34pm On Nov 07, 2007

This is uncalled for, instead of facing the business of making laws people are bringing up trivialities like NYSC certificate. Is it not the same NYSC that said they didn't have enough money to take in all the graduates for service this year? graduates from universities were even pleading with the government to consider their situation, is that what you call serving your country? You have to beg your country before it allows you to serve it?

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by buluti(m): 8:54pm On Nov 07, 2007

Why cant my country begin to think and act like serious people. This is clearly the sign of the bring him down by all means, lets look for something wrong like someone in this forum once said, it will be hard to find a totally spot less Nigerian. I really dont know what to say. Its very sad, the guys CV is impressive and based on that it would be nice to have an educated person in that position, so we can begin to compare.

The fact that he has worked in Nigeria is the issue, he has indeed broken the law (thats if the allegation is true), if that is enough to impeach him, huh

? Thats the question for the accusers.

Its time the whole NYSC thing is re-accessed vis a vis the intentions at the time it was created. The scheme has since lost its usefulness, truth be told its a total WASTE OF TIME . During my NYSC i asked one of the officials why only graduates serve and she came up with if you dont go to school you cant teach, i asked her if teaching was the motive for NYSC and that i wasnt teaching or serving in a government parastatal so whats she talking about.

I explained that in my opinion the civil service was made up of mainly primary school leavers so why cant the scheme be all inclusive. She just kept blabbing. I told her that in some other nations if you get to a certain age say 18 or 21 you are enlisted in the military for 1 year where you get full military training the aim is that in terms of war, you can easily enlist your citizens, that ours has lost its purpose, with the whole private partnership because in actual terms you are not serving the nation, you are just cheap labour to one private firm.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by mrpataki(m): 8:59pm On Nov 07, 2007

Now that there is a speaker who had no NYSC certificate, maybe he will start working on how to abolish the nonsense called NYSC!

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by babasin(op): 9:33pm On Nov 07, 2007

NYSC law is very clear!

We cant have a law breaker now making law!

great things must be done with great attention to law and consistency

I am more certain than not that the guy did NYSC. I can confirm that he participated in the NYSC orientation camp with my brother in Abuja in Feb 1998,

so we cant even trust his CV: 'Going by his CV, Bankole was 26 years old when he started working in 1995 at Freight Agencies, Lagos.'

So he did NYSC 3years after he started working??

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by buluti(m): 9:52pm On Nov 07, 2007

babasin:
NYSC law is very clear!

We can't have a law breaker now making law!

great things must be done with great attention to law and consistency

so we can't even trust his CV: 'Going by his CV, Bankole was 26 years old when he started working in 1995 at Freight Agencies, Lagos.'

So he did NYSC 3years after he started working??

No you need to put the issues in proper perspective.

I agree on the arguement of consistency but is it that he served 3 years later or he didnt serve at all?? What is the issue huh

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by presido1: 10:29pm On Nov 07, 2007

The question is not if NYSC is beneficial to you or to the economy of Nigeria and the law was not made today or because of the dude. If the law is there then he must save or remain safe employed.
Even if he studied outside nigeria he must come back to save as far as he has the intention to work in Nigeria. In the circumstance that he is more than 30yrs b4 he graduated he must get the exemption certificate from NYSC office otherwise he cannot hold a public office in Nigeria as the law stipulates.

McKren:
Why should our system haunt 40yr olds and over with a mistake they made probably 20years ago.

Why should an idea passed into a decree without proper referendum by a group of generals terminate people's ambition to serve their fatherland in modern and democratic Nigeria

that law is outdated (I served and thought Mathematics for full 1 year but I also think it is outdated and should not be compulsory)

It is outdate as you said but since it has not be revised its their for everybody to obay. You better go to nigeria and campaign for the referendum as a law breaker cannot be our law maker if at all the accusation is true.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by Imani(f): 10:45pm On Nov 07, 2007

While the NYSC was a nice idea at the start, it is however, a flawed project.

Do people really gain much by "serving" apart from those that meet future partners etc?

To make it even more ridiculous, NYSC only applies to citizens that are have gone into further education. What is the sense in that? If it is supposed to be a "national" service, then criteria must be set that allows everyone to partake and not just a selected portion of the population.

Why should the speaker of the house not carry out his duties, because of an NYSC programme that has lost a lot of support from students. Maybe next time national "advisers" will think more deeply before just making certain programmes mandatory.

However, I do agree that the leaders should set the right example at all times. What is the point of publicly supporting the NYSC programme and then appointing someone who hasn't completed his NYSC. A classic case of hypocrisy which has paralysed our country for many decades. Our leaders talk about good healthcare system and then travel abroad for treatments both minor and major. The chancellors talk a lot about education, then send their kids abroad to educate them mostly on public money. I wonder when we will actually wake up from our slumber and actually begin to take matters into our own hands.

The government should be decisive, the NYSC should either be maintained or scrapped. We need a decision one way or the other. Indecision is no decision!!

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by Afam(m): 11:06pm On Nov 07, 2007

A law breaker cannot be a law maker.

If you dodged the NYSC then he should be thrown out. We must begin to insist on credibility, integrity, discipline, rule of law and professionalism in all we do if we must make meaningful progress.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by presido1: 11:07pm On Nov 07, 2007

In as much as i agree with you that NYSC is not what is used to be but the fact remains that for you to take public office in Nigeria you must present your discharge certificate or exemption certificate(Graduates) as the case may be. Until they amend that part of the law or constitution i am of the opinion that the law be adhered to strickly.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by babasin(op): 11:29pm On Nov 07, 2007

In as much as i agree with you that NYSC is not what is used to be but the fact remains that for you to take public office in Nigeria you must present your discharge certificate or exemption certificate(Graduates) as the case may be. Until they amend that part of the law or constitution i am of the opinion that the law be adhered to strickly

that is it. crystal clear.

It is very simple.

Speaker should produce his certificate, exemption or be thrown out!

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by auwal(m): 1:35am On Nov 08, 2007

New Speaker of the House of Assembly, Honourable Dimeji Bankole (arrowed), with other corps members at the orientation camp in Kubwa, Abuja, when he did his National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) programme in Abuja in 1998.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by IykeD1(m): 2:54am On Nov 08, 2007

Quote of the day: "A law breaker can not be a law maker"

Nigerians are hilarious. I guess there goes the entire House.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by babasin(op): 8:40am On Nov 08, 2007

@auwal,
Good at least we have some picture, which shows he attend NSYC CAMP. so cant claim exemption

Now we need certifcate that he actually completed it!

Many people enter University(they have matric pics) but did not graduate; so we need the NYSC certificate.

what interesting also: he did NYSC 3 years after he started working:

when he did his National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) programme in Abuja in 1998.

Going by his CV, Bankole was 26 years old when he started working in 1995 at Freight Agencies, Lagos.'

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by presido1: 9:48am On Nov 08, 2007

Iyke-D:
Quote of the day: "A law breaker can not be a law maker"
Nigerians are hilarious. I guess there goes the entire House.

Until you prove the above.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by uchetobi(f): 10:30am On Nov 08, 2007

Could he start discharging his duties huh

These law makers have looked for one excuse or the other to not work since they’v resumed, but they collect their salary, we move one step forward from Etteh, now we are being plunged 2 steps backwards because of “nysc”

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by klassyguy(m): 10:40am On Nov 08, 2007

Honestly we do not have politicians and lawmakers in this country. What we have are a bunch of thugs and hypocrites whose missions are to just enrich their pockets with the money they are supposed to use for the upbringing and wellness of the nation, and who fight like kids over trivial issues. instead of them to face better things, they're now digging into one unnecessary issue. if they knew that they want exemption or discharge certificate, why don't they make it a criteria to enter the house in the first place? Shameless people.

O please d scheme has overstayed its useful life, it has become totally senseless, meaningless, a death trap (for corpers traveling to places where they would have had no business going in the first place – ask me iv lost 3 friends), its now a money spinning vehicle for ZI’s. anyways as long as he has an exemption certificate or the real certificate if he served or not is irrelevant, afterall madam speaker dint even have a degree at all

@uchetobi, i wouldn't blame the NYSC scheme on that one, i'll rather blame the government for not reviving and taking care of our roads and other forms of transport, and for making life unbearable for its citizens.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by folem: 10:57am On Nov 08, 2007

Iyke-D:
Quote of the day: "A law breaker can not be a law maker"

Nigerians are hilarious. I guess there goes the entire House.

presido1:
Until you prove the above.

Section 13 of the NYSC Act (amended in 1993) makes it criminal for anyone to dodge the service, under-declare educational qualifications or work in either public or private sector without undergoing national service.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by presido1: 12:17pm On Nov 08, 2007

What is the argument that the scheme has overstayed, its rubbish let him produce the discharge cert and everything will be settled. According to British law, a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants. But most importantly, she can, upon request pee in a Policeman's helmet. This law dates back to who know when but they still obey it as far as it has not been repealed. So its a law in 9ja do service if you wanna take public office. His case cannot be treated differently.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by bioye(m): 7:10pm On Nov 08, 2007

Speaker provides copies of NYSC Discharge Certificate

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by buluti(m): 9:48pm On Nov 08, 2007

Case closed abi. Though not that i expect much to change, but let the power block shift a bit. On the face of it the speaker was not the annointed candidate.

Now the arguement on NYSC should be put in proper perspective. Its situations like this that should cause thinking people to re-accessed the status quo, NYSC has lost its relevance. If the programme cannot be all emcompassing and properly structured it should be scrapped. Why should it be only graduates that serve?

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by dayokanu(m): 7:26am On Nov 09, 2007

Bankole Produces NYSC Certificate

The Speaker of the House of Representatives, Hon. Dimeji Bankole, accused of dodging the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) programme by anonymous opponents yesterday proved Doubting Thomases wrong, making available to newsmen in Abuja his discharge certificate from the national service.
The discharge certificate with the number FCT/FRN/-9799823 and signed by the Director-General of the corps showed that Bankole who is just eight days in office as Speaker undertook and completed the national service at the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Abuja.
The certificate may have put to rest speculations by some unnamed House members that the new Speaker did not complete his NYSC programme.
Bankole had on Wednesday while defending himself against the allegation said he actually served at the Federal Capital Territory, while three of his former colleagues in the programme, including the Oceanic Bank Manager at the National Assembly, confirmed he served with the new Speaker.
The manager and his colleague, a legislative aide at the National Assembly, also produced a group photograph with the Speaker during their endurance trek at the Kubwa NYSC Orientation Camp in Abuja.
Bankole’s dousing of the controversy trailing his national service came as the South-east zone of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) yesterday finally elected Hon. Emeka Ihedioha who represents Aboh Mbaise/Ngor Okpala Federal constituency of Imo State as the Chief Whip of the House.
In the election conducted at the National Assembly, Ihedioha who is a member of the Integrity Group polled 20 votes to defeat the former Whip, Hon. Bethel Amadi, who got 15 votes.
With the election of Ihedioha, the list of new principal officers of the House is now complete.
Amadi is the only former officer under former House Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Etteh’s leadership that was not returned.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=94697

This lays to rest the rumour

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by titus: 1:49pm On Nov 09, 2007

Where are the likes of Babasin and mamajama?

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by Nobody: 2:00pm On Nov 09, 2007

One trend this particular thread has thrown up is that there are many bad people in Nairaland. Shame on all of you calling for the speaker's crucification, Your ilks are the ones that Nigeria don't need now at this point in her life.

Re: New Speaker Dogded Nysc? by panalyst(m): 2:50pm On Nov 09, 2007

I can see whats going on, being a political analyst (panalyst) grin

let me break it down to u,

The speaker is smart, very smart. He had his certificate but he waited when all the rumours were growing. He waited for all the noise to come up. y? because when the rumours came up, if he produced his certificate, he would not have known who was behind it. Now that the rumours turned to shouts and accusations because he kept quiet, he can now see those who were bringing this matter up. Now he has produced it but he knows his enemies in the house, Theywill probably get a silly commiteee, who tell u say military tactics no de work, lol

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