popizaino:



Starting from the 5-0 loss to real madrid in 2014 I think philip lahm as already cleared the airhen he stated that players ditched the managers game plan.


The 3-0 loss at the nou camp match had pep Guardiola's not true with his on usual style.He approached the game the way other managers faced him back in barca.you could see that from the incessant long ball from xabi alonzo to lewandoski and other attackers all the time instead of the normal intelligent one or two shot passes in the midfield. So that style was uncharacteristic of pep Guardiola's style. He corrected it in the second leg and had barcelona begging for mercy.


The 1-0 at atletico madrid will only have me blaming pep guardiola for always relying too much on second leg.The return leg was just one of those unlucky nights in ucl.


Also the 3-1 loss to monaco 2 seasons ago should have them flogging all the attacker with fan belts for missing begging chances .

The bolded is a lie. He himself said that he messed up by overcomplicating his tactics, thereby leaving his players utterly confused on their roles in the game.

Unlimited22:

The bolded is a lie. He himself said that he messed up by overcomplicating his tactics, thereby leaving his players utterly confused on their roles in the game.

You dey mind the guy, Guardiola specifically said he was to blame...3 semi finals at Bayern, 3 Ls....he never smell semis at City but the guy is rightly dominating the English League and i don't think he necessarily has the best players in the league. He's finding it hard to get to a UCL final without Messi and Barca, let's wait and see sha

popizaino:



Starting from the 5-0 loss to real madrid in 2014 I think philip lahm as already cleared the airhen he stated that players ditched the managers game plan.


The 3-0 loss at the nou camp match had pep Guardiola's not true with his on usual style.He approached the game the way other managers faced him back in barca.you could see that from the incessant long ball from xabi alonzo to lewandoski and other attackers all the time instead of the normal intelligent one or two shot passes in the midfield. So that style was uncharacteristic of pep Guardiola's style. He corrected it in the second leg and had barcelona begging for mercy.


The 1-0 at atletico madrid will only have me blaming pep guardiola for always relying too much on second leg.The return leg was just one of those unlucky nights in ucl.


Also the 3-1 loss to monaco 2 seasons ago should have them flogging all the attacker with fan belts for missing begging chances .

All these are stories for the gods.

Heywhizzy:
Lol.. during Sane's World Cup snub, many were justifying his omission stating he's overrated.. many of them still insist Sterling and G. Jesus are overhyped, they tagged Bernardo as overrated seeing his performances for Portugal during the World Cup and before.. They don't still rate Stones at all, Mendy is unintelligent, Walker is all pace and power.. after all these, they conclude by saying Guardiola only plays with big names.. They only rate Silva, Aguero and De bruyne (safe for some few hazard addicts).. Yet he only coaches World class players

are you not still part of the people that tell us that hazard is a mediocre and that chelsea has no world class player. but, you will still tell us, when it is convenient for you that chelsea is a big club

popizaino:




I think happens to you when you watch hazard atleast to say

When I watch hazard in the CL I don't see him score much. Or is he scoring when you watch him

eph12:

When you watch VVD in that Liverpool team, do you distrust your eyes so much? Against City, nobody had more interceptions than VVD from both sides.

When I watch this liverpool, I see improvement in many areas from trent to Robertson to gomez to vvd to allison

Only you and your friends see just vvd

raumdeuter:


When I watch this liverpool, I see improvement in many areas from trent to Robertson to gomez to vvd to allison

Only you and your friends see just vvd

What do you see when you watch VVD?

eph12:

What do you see when you watch VVD?

I see a good defender helping his team just the way his teammates in defence are doing unlike you who see him as the only player doing anything in defence while the others are just there doing nothing

raumdeuter:


I see a good defender helping his team just the way his teammates in defence are doing unlike you who see him as the only player doing anything in defence while the others are just there doing nothing

Just the same way I saw Boateng a good defender help his team, just the way his teammates did unlike you who saw him as the only player doing anything in defence while the others are just there doing nothing. Some even did better than him. For example Hummels had more interceptions and lesser clearances.

eph12:
And Boateng teammates were not helping out or even doing more than him at that final?

As seen in the world cup final, Boateng was the main man in defence covering the mistakes of sloths like Hummels

raumdeuter:


As seen in the world cup final, Boateng was the main man in defence covering the mistakes of sloths like Hummels

Big lie. Hummels had 4 interceptions while Boateng had just 1.

eph12:

Big lie. Hummels had 4 interceptions while Boateng had just 1.

While Boateng was making goal saving interceptions and clearances that made most analyst tag him the best player of the world cup final

eph12:

Just the same way I saw Boateng a good defender help his team, just the way his teammates did unlike you who saw him as the only player doing anything in defence while the others are just there doing nothing. Some even did better than him. For example Hummels had more interceptions and lesser clearances.

On the day of the world cup final while watching these below are what posters on this forum had to say. Examples of posters who trusted their own eyes

chic2pimp:
Anyone that calls the names Boateng and Luiz in the same sentence ever again will have me to answer to.

Dhelake:
Boateng And Neuer Deserves Two Medals Each

This is too cagey!

Boateng is just out of this world, MOTM performance from the ninja!

Go Die Maanschaft, we can do it!

chic2pimp:
MOTM......BOATENG AND BOSSTIAN!

Katsumoto:
Boateng is no passenger and he certainly was one of the best players at the WC.

raumdeuter:


While Boateng was making goal saving interceptions and clearances that made most analyst tag him the best player of the world cup final

So what kind of interceptions did Hummels make? Boateng had 7 tackles in that match. That was 7 times in just one match he wasn't in where he was supposed to be or he couldn't read the ball properly. That's shocking

Erm is clearance no more budee again?

Hummels was even seriously injured but had more interceptions than Boateng.

Legend

Before, defenders are only meant to make clearance, now it's "goal-saving" clearance.

VVD is playing just as well as other Liverpool defenders but Boateng was the only defender at the final.

whoscored is right sometimes, when they don't support your claims; use your eyes

Afolabi6046:
Before, defenders are only meant to make clearance, now it's "goal-saving" clearance.

VVD is playing just as well as other Liverpool defenders but Boateng was the only defender at the final.

whoscored is right sometimes, when they don't support your claims; use your eyes

Shey you're seeing the abracadabra?

Actually he liked the clearance stat on whoscored to budeeing and claimed it was haram for a defender to make clearances. When we showed him Boateng own he changed it to goal line clearances. Now it seems Boateng made 8 goal line clearances in that match

eph12:

So what kind of interceptions did Hummels make? Boateng had 7 tackles in that match. That was 7 times in just one match he wasn't in where he was supposed to be or he couldn't read the ball properly. That's shocking

Erm is clearance no more budee again?

None of Hummels interception was goal saving like Boatengs, that was why during that match no one on this forum using their eyes commended Hummels as much as they did for Boateng.

That was why Rio Ferdinand and many analysts did not even mention Hummels name but Boateng

Afolabi6046:
Before, defenders are only meant to make clearance, now it's "goal-saving" clearance.

VVD is playing just as well as other Liverpool defenders but Boateng was the only defender at the final.

whoscored is right sometimes, when they don't support your claims; use your eyes

In that world cup final people who had eyes and used it on this forum as well as other forums were hailing the exceptional performance by Boatank in the final

eph12:

Shey you're seeing the abracadabra?

Actually he liked the clearance stat on whoscored to budeeing and claimed it was haram for a defender to make clearances. When we showed him Boateng own he changed it to goal line clearances. Now it seems Boateng made 8 goal line clearances in that match

When you have a defensive partner as horrid as Hummels on the world cup night who was getting outrun all night, Boateng had to do 2 players job vs the best attackers in the game and still kept a clean sheet in the bigest game of the sport

eph12:
Erm is clearance no more budee again?

Like Laporte said you can clear or budee when there is an emergency like a goal line clearance but to be clearing the ball senselessly everytime when you can play out of the back

raumdeuter:


When you have a defensive partner as horrid as Hummels on the world cup night who was getting outrun all night, Boateng had to do 2 players job vs the best attackers in the game and still kept a clean sheet in the bigest game of the sport

That's not what whoscored said.
The facts are simple here. Hummels 4 interceptions, Boateng 3.

raumdeuter:


Like Laporte said you can clear or budee when there is an emergency like a goal line clearance but to be clearing the ball senselessly everytime when you can play out of the back

VVD with 5 clearances, he was clearing the ball senselessly but Boateng with 8 clearances, he was doing goal line clearance

raumdeuter:


In that world cup final people who had eyes and used it on this forum as well as other forums were hailing the exceptional performance by Boatank in the final

Hummels was not doing anything lo
https://d30fl32nd2baj9.cloudfront.net/media/2014/07/14/20.-germany-s-mats-hummels-deflects-argentina-s-lionel-messi-s-shot-at-goal-during-their-world-cup-final.-reuters.jpg1

eph12:

That's not what whoscored said.
The facts are simple here. Hummels 4 interceptions, Boateng 3.

We had people watching and posting on this forum as well as on different studios worldwide, All mentioned Boateng. Check this forum football section that day how many people mentioned Hummels for any great action on the night

Thats the advantage of watching and trusting ones eyes

eph12:

VVD with 5 clearances, he was clearing the ball senselessly but Boateng with 8 clearances, he was doing goal line clearance

Were these goal line clearances, was it an emergency situation that requires urgent clearance? or just a play where a pass will do but he still chose to bude senselessly?

eph12:

Hummels was not doing anything lo
https://d30fl32nd2baj9.cloudfront.net/media/2014/07/14/20.-germany-s-mats-hummels-deflects-argentina-s-lionel-messi-s-shot-at-goal-during-their-world-cup-final.-reuters.jpg1

The image you have there was actually where Boateng saved Hummels asss

Hummels was caught unawares and sloppy allowing Messi to gain on him and the ball was going into the net until the main man BoaTANK came to save Hummels from the disgrace

raumdeuter:


Were this goal line clearances, was it an emergency situation that requires urgent clearance? or just a play where a pass will do but he still chose to bude?

How many goal line clearances did Boateng make?

raumdeuter:


The image you have there was actually where Boateng saved Hummels asss

Hummels was caught unawares and sloppy allowing Messi to gain on him and the ball was going into the net until the main man BoaTANK came to save Hummels from the disgrace

That image showed Hummels deflected the ball if not there wouldn't have been anything for Boateng to clear

eph12:

That image showed Hummels deflected the ball if not there wouldn't have been anything for Boateng to clear

It shows Hummels should not have been beaten easily in the first place

Mats Hummels (Defender) - 6

Found himself under pressure early on and struggled (and who wouldn't?) against the pace of Messi. but ran out of steam towards the end.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Hummels lacked mobility - outside the box he was left a few times.

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9
The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."

eph12:

That image showed Hummels deflected the ball if not there wouldn't have been anything for Boateng to clear

This is another Hummels gaffe that almost cost the world cup

eph12:

How many goal line clearances did Boateng make?

Lets see what people who are not fighting with their eyes said about the final on the day of the game

Jerome Boateng's pace at the back was crucial for Germans

JEROME BOATENG - 8... STAR MAN

Did well. Saw the danger early and put his body on the line. Only one with real pace in the German back line. Suited central role.


Now what they said about Hummels

MATS HUMMELS - 6

Outpaced by Messi time and time again. Had a good tournament but struggled against the runners from deep

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2690762/GERMANY-1-0-ARGENTINA-PLAYER-RATINGS-Jerome-Boateng-leads-example-secure-2014-World-Cup.html