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Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by fio(m): 9:02pm On May 05, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: I MEAN 85 PERCENT OF DEATH IN NIGERIA. Thank God someone in this thread mentioned agriculture as a way of providing jobs and improving the economy of ekiti, but how would run agriculture without providing good roads.....but don't also forget that someone in this thread also opposed industries in ekiti, so tell me how u will create employment. Don't also forget that good roads are one of the factors that attract investors(both local and foreign), electricity which is also a factor. You know each state, nation has her own development tactics or strategies, why not let us cross our fingers with hope that something good comes out..I BELIEVE IN NIGERIA. 1 Like |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Nobody: 9:07pm On May 05, 2012 |
well I can say he is enthusiastic about that project,in reality we need an airfield, not a full time international airport, I guess he will be told and if they don't tell him, well we will have to wait to see how he sources the funds or better still,he could borrow in the name of the state to execute the project and then watch his political opponents move in with the killer move of no 2nd term.Time will tell, but you need to know it is not easy being governor of this state,people criticize before they analyze, and you know people love to curse over the smallest issues. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kobojunkie: 9:08pm On May 05, 2012 |
f i o: So far Ekiti has not had any problems delivering agricultural goods to the market, so I don't think you can argue that the state has terribly bad roads that have hindered it's development. And I am sure you have also read someone mention that the previous governor also invested in road constructing the very same state as well. So I don't think terrible bad roads is what ails that state at this point in it's development. If good roads contributed as much, as you presume, to attraction of investors, then do you not think that states up north, many of them with some of the best road conditions in the country as a whole (since the last 20 years at least) would be seriously developed at this point?? Most of these states have roads that are rarely used given that the vast majority of the population cannot even afford cars of their own. How long are you going to cross your fingers while the same old tactics continue being applied with the same old results at the end of the day, rinse-and-repeat? For pete's sake, road construction projects are not worth considering achievements especially in a country where every administration seems only to focus on that and not much else, while the local economy continues to decay. I believe in Nigeria too but I don't believe in beating at the same old rock that has failed time and time again, expecting magic to make things work at the end of the day. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Ekiti1: 9:08pm On May 05, 2012 |
Methinks Fayemi needs to be more focused on electricity. Ask any resident of Ado - Ekiti and you will discover that electricity is topmost on their wish list. No matter what everyone believes, some of those achievements he is touting are actually propaganda. 1 Like |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by fio(m): 9:11pm On May 05, 2012 |
chino24: See yoroobas with their clueless and clownish leaders. Please show us completed projectd tribalists! They are @ it again, tell me one thing ur own governor has done...when someone is doin something good be happy, no future for tribalists. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Nobody: 9:21pm On May 05, 2012 |
PapaBrowne: Well, as long as we continue to depend 100% on Federal allocaton for everything, then we should be contented with being unproductive and poor. I was miffed by your reference to geography as a barrier to industrialization in Ekiti. Do you really believe that? |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kilode1: 9:30pm On May 05, 2012 |
ekt_bear: Kilode, if you believe that there was nothing we disagreed about, then with no offense intended, you need to reread what was written. I read it, I guess both of your clarifications made your arguments seem the same to me. Maybe I did not read well, that was just how I saw it. Anyway, that's not too important. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kilode1: 9:38pm On May 05, 2012 |
Is there really any State Governor in Nigeria that has fixed or can fix the Electricity problem in their state? I'm not aware of one. I'll like to be educated though. Nigeria has a centralized Electrical infrastructure, from policy to pricing, everything is controlled from Abuja. Except something changed while I was sleeping yesterday sha. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Nobody: 9:43pm On May 05, 2012 |
Kilode?!: More reason why all Nigerians must work together to dismantle the Abuja behemoth. It is stifling and a serious clog in the wheel of development of Nigeria. Let those who are serious about generating their own power do so and use it as they wish. Decentralize into viable political and economic units, period. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by manny4life(m): 10:01pm On May 05, 2012 |
When you have the constitutional powers given to the FG to control just about "EVERYTHING" Nigeria cannot move forward. Abuja powers needs to be reduced to a minimum; states should exercise authority from power and energy to transportation, education and healthcare. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by PapaBrowne(m): 10:02pm On May 05, 2012 |
Well, as long as we continue to depend 100% on Federal allocaton for everything, then we should be contented with being unproductive and poor. I was miffed by your reference to geography as a barrier to industrialization in Ekiti. Do you really believe that?Look at the map below. That is China with all its major cities. They are all clustered around the coast. Coastal areas tend to favor investments more than the hinterland. 80% of the world's top cities are coastal. Mention all the major cities in U.S, you'll find that geography is a major determining factor in industrailization. Industries becomes more expensive as they move further than down the coast. Industrialization means more than just manufacturing. You would need to have a very reliable logistic base to have effective industrialization. For Instance, You can't build an effective Free Trade zone in the hinterland. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by fio(m): 10:06pm On May 05, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: u're right, but such development is not something we can ignore. ekiti road is a problem, only those living there can testify. Simply bcoz someone has done it and failed doen't make is own case inevitable too, U made mention of the North, u see, mentality, vission, future expectations differs a lot among our leaders(expecially north and south), our concern should be where he will go from there before we start critisizing. @ LEAST HE IS DOING SOMETHING, WHAT IF HE LOOTS INSTEAD? |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Gbawe: 10:12pm On May 05, 2012 |
I think this is a fluid demonstration of how diasporan Nigerians egotistically ruin threads with diversionary and , frankly, unhelpful talk. If you people don't live in Nigeria, don't you visit enough to know why, very obviously, some can get very excited at the thought of vastly improved motorable roads? Do you guys appreciate what is on ground currently , as first hand users, to be able to put issues in perspective? You guys should get over yourselves and stop talking about caviar to a man who cannot even afford bread. We should be looking at this issue purely from the perspective of how planned works will improve transport in Ekiti State vis-a-vis an agenda of overall development. All I see here is just pompous pontifications from folks far removed from the hell of Nigeria to the extent they don't appreciate what substantial development of road infrastructure can do for most Nigerian State. The only contribution I have found useful and pertinent here are those that confirm that work is indeed going on. I would also welcome the input of Ekiti folks on the ground who know what the planned work will portend for the amelioration of the transport woes in the State. What is written below ,allied with the reality some of us know first hand, means that grounded folk and end users will have no time for pompously over-intellectualising simple issues. http://nationalmirroronline.net/news/18305.html ‘Only 15 % Nigerian roads are motorable’ http://www.frscinsight.com/?p=9963 The deplorable state of roads |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kobojunkie: 10:13pm On May 05, 2012 |
f i o: Your claim that mentality, vision and the rest differ between North and South, is not so evident. Again, the fact is the decay in Nigeria spreads across all regions, so I beg to differ. Our concern should be that the limited resources we have today should not again be wasted on projects that at the end of the day yield NOTHING, something we have become used to at this point. Criticize him/poke at his work/examine every step of the work that is being done . . . that is what you ought to do as a citizen in this democracy, as by doing so, you help ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated and the futures of your children, and their children will not continue to be flushed down the toilet. If at the end of the day, it is business as usual, guess whose fault it really would be? Not his, but yours, that is how democracy is designed to work. At the end, the people only get what the people ask for and deserve. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Nobody: 10:14pm On May 05, 2012 |
PapaBrowne: China is a really big country, Nigeria slightly larger than the state of Texas, Ekiti about 150 Kilometres from the nearest port in Lagos. If I place a Nigerian map alongside the chinese map you provided (Being on the same scale) Lagos and Ado-Ekiti will seem side by side, think about it. If I go by your logic, the places refered to as US industrial heartland should never have existed. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by PapaBrowne(m): 10:20pm On May 05, 2012 |
^^^^ You are right sha. I only just tried to prove the correlation between geography and industrialization. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by PapaBrowne(m): 10:27pm On May 05, 2012 |
Gbawe: I think this is a fluid demonstration of how diasporan Nigerians egotistically ruin threads with diversionary and , frankly, unhelpful talk. If you people don't live in Nigeria, don't you visit enough to know why, very obviously, some can get very excited at the thought of vastly improved motorable roads? Do you guys appreciate what is on ground currently , as first hand users, to be able to put issues in perspective? You guys should get over yourselves and stop talking about caviar to a man who cannot even afford bread.Go away!! You brought out a thread screaming "huge construction site" and you didn't put up a single picture. I told you "we" would not read it. So "we" didn't read it. Sowee, "we" have taken over the thread and "we" are discussing more important issues that cut across party lines. ACN this, ACN that! What we want is development whether it is from ACN or the republican party, we want development. So go away with your partisanship! |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Gbawe: 10:34pm On May 05, 2012 |
PapaBrowne: Abeg, you should get lost. You are an example of the vacuous diasporan I am talking of. Why should I supply you with any pictures because I started a thread and supplied an article? This is on the official website of Ekiti State and any gracious person would at least have the maturity to avoid treating this issue with levity especially when they are as ignorant as you are. Get it into your thick skull that your input, and those of other mischief makers, means absolutely nothing to me. Same as Edicolove's hateful rant about Fashola not carrying out a "single" drainage work was laughable since I will be the one enjoying rather superb drainage in my Surulere area of Lagos. It would be good if folks like you just mind your own business if all you are going to be doing is asking folks for pictures regarding issues that are not your concern. You brought the ACN into this because of your deep bias that leads you to prejudicially attempt discrediting others and lampooning what could be genuine administrative effort worthy of commendation. I am just happy Ekiti folks may gain vastly improved transport infrastructure because I know first hand, as a driver and passenger, how hellish road transport is in many Nigerian States . Or do you wan't to take over from 'amebo' Beaf who is always in SW affairs? No SW person owes you any pictures . Believe what you want while they enjoy the built infrastructure discussed. That is good enough for me. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Nobody: 11:07pm On May 05, 2012 |
ekt_bear: @shymmex: You lure investors by presenting them with profitable opportunities. Where are these private investors going to come from? I understand where you're coming from - but can Ekiti state afford the cost of generating electricity? Bear in mind most foreign investors are not really interested in investing in Nigeria - apart from Lagos, Abuja, and SS (oil sector). Hence why I used Okorocha travelling to irrelevant countries (countries seeking foreign investors themselves) as an example, of how desperation for private investors can lead to wasteful spending (travel expenses) of tax payers money on irrelevant trips - to countries struggling for investors themselves. Ekiti state needs to harness its potentials - which is obviously agriculture, and tourism for now - pending when the central distribution of electricity would be decentralized. More viable states like Lagos, Ogun, and Ondo - with resources to generate electricity can supply Ekiti state in future, from their excesses. That's just my two cents. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by rhymz(m): 11:37pm On May 05, 2012 |
Seriously, on this one, I unbeliavably have to agree with Kobo JUNKIe; building good roads has done very little to stimulate the economic activities in states that have taken that as a policy solution. I have been to states like zamfara, zaria and presently am in Sokoto, one thing I find common in all these states is the network of good roads scattered all over their towns, most of them are rarely used and experience minimal vehicula activities. Yet there is almost no serious economic activities witnessed in any of these states. Instead a place like Aba for instance with its huge infrastructural lack and directionless leadership continues to have huge economic activities and GDP. May be it has to do with the active involvment and participation of its indigens to the economy of the state. Seriously, while it is very important that government does its own bit by building the required infastructures, the people in Ekiti will have to show faith too in the potentials of their state, they have to show the investors outside that the state can be economically viable if there is a geniune resolution. There should be a reverse in the way every local investor sets up in Lagos thereby killing any potential of neigbouring states in the region. The position of Lagos and its large population size should be taken advantage of by neigbouring states in the region and not the reverse where Lagos is sucking every opportunities from them. Ogun state for instance has been very disappointing in this regard giving the fact that it is very close to the Lagos market plus it has one of the largest wealthy Yoruba and Nigerian business men and women yet they would rather take their investment to Lagos than invest in Ogun state. Contrary to that, many of the big time traders you see in places like ladipo, Balogun... Et al have strong branches in their home places like Onitsha, Aba, Porthacourt, Asaba, warri and co. If you go to Nnwei and Aba in particular, most of the industries you see there are owned by the indigens. That is how to stimulate the growth of a state, these economic activites are what will actually draw other investors, outside professionals and the needed market to patronize the investment opportunities of the state and buy any goods produced in the state. These are very practicable examples that do not need all those big talk of unrealistic industrilization scales that we all know are not in the reach of any of these states for now. 1 Like |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Katsumoto: 11:52pm On May 05, 2012 |
rhymz: Seriously, on this one, I unbeliavably have to agree with Kobo JUNKIe; building good roads has done very little to stimulate the economic activities in states that have taken that as a policy solution. I have been to states like zamfara, zaria and presently am in Sokoto, one thing I find common in all these states is the network of good roads scattered all over their towns, most of them are rarely used and experience minimal vehicula activities. Yet there is almost no serious economic activities witnessed in any of these states. Instead a place like Aba for instance with its huge infrastructural lack and directionless leadership continues to have huge economic activities and GDP. I don't believe that anyone is saying that road building will necessarily lead to increased business activities. The point is that you a good road to aid business activities. The government should do its part in developing infrastructure and then stimulate business activities through other means. The presence of goods roads is necessary for business but it is not a stimulant on its own. For instance, two men both buy trucks to start 2 moving businesses. Mr A assumes that by having a truck, business will come to him and Mr B goes out to drum for business. At the end of the first year, Mr A only has 5k miles on his truck and $500 profit while Mr B has 75k on his truck and $7500 profit. You do make a good point about indigenes being part of the development of state. You will find that Ogun state businessmen will probably have more business activities in Lagos than Lagos indigenes. Just like Dangote has more investments in Lagos than Kano. The governors in Nigeria are not doing enough but thats because most of them have no business being leaders. 1 Like |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by rhymz(m): 4:14am On May 06, 2012 |
Katsumoto:I agree with you as well but I just feel development in this 21st century should go beyond building and repairing roads. In fact, instead of just building roads, government can tie infrastructural development to their strategic importance to a particular sector where the state has comparative advantage. Giving the fact that the state is highly dependent on the pittance from Abuja, it can not afford to be embarking on projects that, yes are good but realy are not economically expedient. Like Kobo said, if transporting materials, goods and services have not been shown to be a major problem in the state then Ekiti state government giving their very lean pocket do not have any business "converting the state to a huge construction site". They should be more focused on projects that will have the needed effect on stimulating economic activities and attracting investors to the state. There is too much politics these days in the claims of road construction by state government that it gives the wrong impression that constructing roads is the biggest challenge to improving the economy and attracting investors. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kilode1: 4:43am On May 06, 2012 |
rhymz: , if transporting materials, goods and services have not been shown to be a major problem in the state then Ekiti state government giving their very lean pocket do not have any business "converting the state to a huge construction site But transportation is a huge problem in the state though, I've been there, i've seen it. Just like we have in many States in the South ( i've not travelled extensively in the North) Farm-to-town roads are terrible. Roads linking various towns are also in pretty bad shape. In fairness to him, Fayose reconstructed some city roads and a few inter-city ones, but they were not well maintained and they were poorly constructed. Having said that, I've not seen these roads Fayemi is constructing, so I'll hold judgement until he's done. He needs to get really busy though. There's a lot to do. Slightly off-topic: I Agree with the points being made about comparative advantage, it is key, but like Aigbofa and others alluded to, we will first need to deal with the "Elephant in the room" which is the structure of our pseudo-federal system. Until states and local govts get the power and authority to do many of the things presently cornered by Abuja, we will continue in this cycle of madness. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kobojunkie: 5:14am On May 06, 2012 |
Ekiti villages definitely do not have terrible roads. I myself have been to some of the villages to purchase farm goods,for wholesale, from some of the markets/farmers out there, during Oni's years, and the roads were not terrible at all. If you want example of terrible roads, try the road to some of the villages in Abia State. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by emiye(m): 5:52am On May 06, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: Ekiti villages definitely do not have terrible roads. I myself have been to some of the villages to purchase farm goods,for wholesale, from some of the markets/farmers out there, during Oni's years, and the roads were not terrible at all.Fallacy of Hasty generalisation |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Nobody: 6:00am On May 06, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: Ekiti villages definitely do not have terrible roads. I myself have been to some of the villages to purchase farm goods,for wholesale, from some of the markets/farmers out there, during Oni's years, and the roads were not terrible at all. What do you mean Ekiti roads are not terrible? Is it Ado to Ifaki to Otun down to kwara that is good? Is it Ado-Ikere-Akure road that is good? Is it Ado-Efon-Ijebu Ijesa road that is good? Is it Ado to Afao road that is motorable? Is it Ado to Ijesa Isu down to Ikole that is an express way? or you want to mention Ijero axis as a paragon of what a good road should be? The only good road in Ekiti is Ifaki to Ikole. It's funny how people on this thread say road construction is not an achievement in present day Nigeria where 85% of our roads are nothing to write home about. If it is not, then what's an achievement? You want him to be pouring money on intangibles like free education, free health, free this and that? What sound economic policy can you formulate without good infrastructure on ground like roads, etc? Can we say because power supply can not be claimed as an achievement in Boston, any government that fix Nigerian epileptic power supply should not claim it as an achievement? Some of us still have modicum of regard for Fayose, despite his unstable political character, because his government largely focused on road construction and rehabilitation. Ekiti is a rural state with great agric-business potential and you can not open up the state for business unless you have good transportation system chief among is motorable roads. Fayemi is moving in the right direction! 1 Like |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kilode1: 6:08am On May 06, 2012 |
I've not had the opportunity to drive on Abia local roads. So maybe what I consider terrible is an expressway compared to those, who knows. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kobojunkie: 6:44am On May 06, 2012 |
I wish there was a way to get images of these roads so those who are not aware can see for themselves. That a road is not cover in black shining tar in the sun DOES NOT then imply said road is not pliable. The Ado to Afao road for instance, I doubt the claim that the road is not pliable. So I went through the pain of finding a google map that could give us a seemingly good picture of said roads to Afao. Please go right ahead and tell us where the TERRIBLE points on the road is please? maybe we can narrow this down to the exact stretch that we need to focus on. P.S. Many of the roads mentioned there are Federal Roads, not roads leading to villages. The Governor here is using limited state funds to dualize even a federal road, among other things. If the roads in Ekiti were in such a terrible state, as some would like us to believe, why then is the Government choosing to spend so much on dualizing Federal road, and neglecting these TERRIBLE local roads? Ekiti State Governor Kayode Fayemi yesterday said the government would dualise the Ado-Akure road up to its boundary in Ikere-Ekiti. The road belongs to the Federal Government.http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/44582-ekiti-pays-n275m-compensation-to-property-owners.html Recent political developments in Ekiti State, and the inability of the Federal Government to reimburse the state the funds earlier expended on the construction of some federal roads are some of the factors delaying the reconstruction of the deplorable Ado-Otun-Kwara State Road.http://archive.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200609080465571 I am telling you, there were places in Abia( we tried to visit some of the village markets back some time ago) that are cut off from the rest of the state. I remember a couple of years back, erosion essentially destroyed the main road out of some of the villages and for months, nothing was done. That is terrible, driving over untarred, but still pliable road is not terrible(It is done even here in rural America).Terrible road is what you find mostly on the Highways(mostly Federal roads) with holes that could swallow up cars even or reduce the lifespan of any engine that attempts it. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by fio(m): 6:57am On May 06, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: let me correct u, road projects are not waste of money, provision of infrastructures are neccessary but, because they can't provide yield don't mean u shuldn't do them(infrastructures don't provide yield, they provide happiness). Before u can do something that brings yield or employment u, must take care and eliminate little problems first. LIKE I SAID LET'S SEE WHERE HE WILL GO FROM HERE, DON'T LET US ASSUME ANYONE'S FALIURE, THIS IS ANOTHER PERSON. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by werepeLeri: 7:04am On May 06, 2012 |
Anyone who stays far away from Ekiti and comes online to talk ras should just come home and just take a ride from Ado Ekiti to Ikere Ekiti and turn back, then come here to give us his or her assessment of the government in Ekiti State. Someone ill informed even mentioned the governor said he will dualise Ado Akure road - a road that is already dualised since Fayose but now in a very bad state - and these officials ride on these roads almost on a daily basis. Bull crap. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by Kobojunkie: 7:06am On May 06, 2012 |
f i o: I think you should correct yourself first before you jump to correct others. You have been at this for a while now. Learn to read please. I don't see anyone saying road projects are a WASTE . . I am certain I have not made that statement anywhere to this point. Infrastructure is not simply about road projects. Go to Katsina State for instance, there are fairly good roads in that state that seem to run on forever, yet if you sat down by one of those roads one day, you can count less than 100 cars in 24 hours using said road. And you know what else, those roads have been there for years but the local economy has not grown in all that time. In Ekiti, the last administration equally spent billions of Ekiti money on the roads. The current administration seems more focused on federal road projects than the local roads in Ekiti that directly affect more of the Ekiti people on a regular basis. You ought to constantly query your government to ensure that your money is not being thrown down the toilet. I have said this before. The State does not have unlimited funds and it does not have what Lagos has that it should the try to compare itself to Lagos and other wealthier states. It is a state that should, if anything, look inwards to use what it has to build itself. I don't know what the idea behind using the funds to build Federal roads is but I say it is very risky and I wonder if the risk is worth it. Please like I said, I am not a fold-your-arms-and-wait kind of Nigeria, so please stop preaching that nonsense at me already. |
Re: Fayemi: Turning Ekiti Into A Huge Construction Site. by fio(m): 7:28am On May 06, 2012 |
rhymz: If u're the governor where will u start from?? We are talking about rural community u're talking about 21st century. Tell me how to stimulate economic activities without providing basic needs in a rural community, what can stimulate economic activities apart from infrastructures and security |
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