logicboy: Here is evidence that the bible lies or worse, bears false witness;


Psalm 14:1
King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.


So, the bible is telling me that all atheists are corrupt and have done abominable works? Is that not a lie?

Is Bill Gates, who is agnostic but doesnt believe in the Christian God a corrupt someone that doesnt do good? Bill Gates does a lot of charity and research in Africa.


Are people that set up atheist charities to help poor people evil and corrupt?


Are 64% of Japan, an atheistic nation any more corrupt than Nigeria (48% christian) ?


Is the bible not lying and bigoted towards atheists?

Clem45:

YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR IGNORANCE IS 1ST DEGREE.MAY THE LORD ENLIGHTEN THE EYES OF YOUR UNDERSTANDING!

logicboy:

Clem45:

YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR IGNORANCE IS 1ST DEGREE.MAY THE LORD ENLIGHTEN THE EYES OF YOUR UNDERSTANDING!

logicboy:

harakiri:


CLASSIC!!!

logicboy: Here is evidence that the bible lies or worse, bears false witness;



Are 64% of Japan, an atheistic nation any more corrupt than Nigeria (48% christian) ?

PAGAN 9JA:


80-96% of Japanese adhere to Traditional Japanese Shinto religion or Buddhism, but usually both together. Buddhism is Pagan but with a slight atheistic touch.

Clem45:

YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR IGNORANCE IS 1ST DEGREE.MAY THE LORD ENLIGHTEN THE EYES OF YOUR UNDERSTANDING!

logicboy: Here is evidence that the bible lies or worse, bears false witness;


Psalm 14:1
King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.


So, the bible is telling me that all atheists are corrupt and have done abominable works? Is that not a lie?

Is Bill Gates, who is agnostic but doesnt believe in the Christian God a corrupt someone that doesnt do good? Bill Gates does a lot of charity and research in Africa.


Are people that set up atheist charities to help poor people evil and corrupt?


Are 64% of Japan, an atheistic nation any more corrupt than Nigeria (48% christian) ?


Is the bible not lying and bigoted towards atheists?

italo:

Before we can determine if the Bible lied, you must first tell us: what is "GOOD" and "BAD" and who defined or defines it.

logicboy:
1) the individual (You dont need god or the ten commandments to know killing is bad)

logicboy: 2) the family (wife, husband,, brothers, inlaws all interact and learn from another)

logicboy: 3) the society (culture, education, environment)

logicboy:
4) the law (law putforward by kings or govt)

logicboy: The bible lied, no use beating around the bush

italo:

Not all "individuals" think killing is bad. So what if I felt that it were right for me to kill you because you are a nuisance, would that be okay? What about someone like Hitler who felt justified in killing the Jews in their millions? Was that okay?



There are families that kill and teach their Children to kill their rivals in business, relationships etc, for example, The Mafia. Would that make it right, for children of such families to kill?



What about those people from communities where they kill seven people as part of the ritual to bury a king? Is it right then, since they learnt it from "environment", "culture"?



Do we not know many governments like The Gaddafi government that encouraged killing of innocent citizens? The Taliban is also another government that legalized killing of innocent people. Do you think such killing is okay, only because its backed by government "law"?



The Bible didn't lie! You lie!.. And I have proved that in this post. Now do you agree that you are wrong on who you say defines what is good and bad? Meaning you cannot know what is good and bad.

Not all "individuals" think killing is bad. So what if I felt that it were right for me to kill you because you are a nuisance, would that be okay? What about someone like Hitler who felt justified in killing the Jews in their millions? Was that okay?

logicboy:
Were Adam and Eve killing their children before the 10 commandments came? Even Cain knew that what he did was bad and that why he denied it when God asked him.

logicboy:

Yes, many buddhist dont believe in a God.

Martian:

Dude, are you an atheist or just an emotional christian that's mad at his god? First you say the bible lies, then you cite a different section of the same bible to prove your point. Do you now believe that adam and eve are historical people? Do you believe cain spoke to "god"??

PAGAN 9JA:


its not exactly that. their concept of the supernatural is very different. they concentrate more on the forces. it may be noticed that most Buddhists also follow the traditional religion of their ethinc group. Eg. Tibentans - Bon, Chinese- Chinese Trad. & Confuionism, Japanese - Shinto, etc.

Not all "individuals" think killing is bad. So what if I felt that it were right for me to kill you because you are a nuisance, would that be okay? What about someone like Hitler who felt justified in killing the Jews in their millions? Was that okay?

There are families that kill and teach their Children to kill their rivals in business, relationships etc,

for example, The Mafia. Would that make it right, for children of such families to kill?

What about those people from communities where they kill seven people as part of the ritual to bury a king? Is it right then, since they learnt it from "environment", "culture"?

Do we not know many governments like The Gaddafi government that encouraged killing of innocent citizens? The Taliban is also another government that legalized killing of innocent people. Do you think such killing is okay, only because its backed by government "law"?

The Bible didn't lie! You lie!.. And I have proved that in this post. Now do you agree that you are wrong on who you say defines what is good and bad? Meaning you cannot know what is good and bad.

italo:

Not all "individuals" think killing is bad. So what if I felt that it were right for me to kill you because you are a nuisance, would that be okay? What about someone like Hitler who felt justified in killing the Jews in their millions? Was that okay?



There are families that kill and teach their Children to kill their rivals in business, relationships etc, for example, The Mafia. Would that make it right, for children of such families to kill?



What about those people from communities where they kill seven people as part of the ritual to bury a king? Is it right then, since they learnt it from "environment", "culture"?



Do we not know many governments like The Gaddafi government that encouraged killing of innocent citizens? The Taliban is also another government that legalized killing of innocent people. Do you think such killing is okay, only because its backed by government "law"?



The Bible didn't lie! You lie!.. And I have proved that in this post. Now do you agree that you are wrong on who you say defines what is good and bad? Meaning you cannot know what is good and bad.

Martian:

Dude, are you an atheist or just an emotional christian that's mad at his god? First you say the bible lies, then you cite a different section of the same bible to prove your point. Do you now believe that adam and eve are historical people? Do you believe cain spoke to "god"??

Image123: High fool you mean.

logicboy:


How christian of you

logicboy:

I am an atheist. I was assuming that you're a christian and so I used your bible to explain the point so that you could understand.

Image123:
Very atheist of you to be a fool, what do you know?

logicboy:

My God,...

Image123: The fool has said, there is no God. i do not insult you, sorry. i've met enough uneducated folks to know that you must be the fool referred to.