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Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Gbawe: 9:49am On May 09, 2012 |
http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/45986-%E2%80%98why-doctors-were-fired%E2%80%99.html ‘Why doctors were fired’ |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Demdem(m): 10:12am On May 09, 2012 |
Just need to be clear on these issues. They werent attended to in the report. 1) Did the LASG (not FG ooo) have an agreement with these docs as claimed by the docs? 2) Are the docs fighting for what is not in this agreement or part of what is stated in the agreement? 3) If true there was an agreement with LASG, how far has the govt implemented it? I just need answers to these questions. Someone help me out here. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Nobody: 10:23am On May 09, 2012 |
Agreement everytime as if they are better than other professions in Nigeria.To me,health service should be considered as essential services just like the police and military where unionism is prohibited.The essence of strike is to provide avenue to bargain for better welfare from government and the warring factions should be able to reach a compromise. The state government cannot continue to allow the death of innocent souls who happen to bear the consequence of the strike while the doctors just insist on getting their own selfish demands implemented.It's insane ! |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by naijaking1: 10:33am On May 09, 2012 |
All hail King Fashola, I thought its time to lead a demonstration, this time against your own people. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ektbear: 10:43am On May 09, 2012 |
@aletheia: It appears that Lagos State has won this battle against the doctors They've already replaced half of their fired staff. No doubt they'll be able to fill in the remaining vacancies over time. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ektbear: 10:48am On May 09, 2012 |
I've never understood why in a country like Nigeria where unemployment is so high, labor has ever felt like it has the upper hand. And as much as doctors may want to think otherwise, they are labor like everyone else. Replaceable. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Nobody: 10:53am On May 09, 2012 |
Revoke fire....LOL, when almost all the doctors in private hospitals have been praying for an opportunity to work in civil service. One of my friends in a top Lagos private hospital, one of the best in naija just sent in his application. Yorubas would say, ti te ni kan oba baje, ti elo mi ko ni da. They even insulted the honourables of LAHA, atleast they should respect the office they hold. We have seen how they have been insulting Nairalanders all over the forum, insulting the same masses they should try to win to their side. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Kay17: 10:56am On May 09, 2012 |
~Bluetooth:that would be tyranny! Police should allowed under stringent rules to strike for better pay and conditions. Its no wonder its in this state. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Rhino5dm: 11:08am On May 09, 2012 |
Don't mind the fools! Soo many are going to be jobless princey83: Revoke fire....LOL, when almost all the doctors in private hospitals have been praying for an opportunity to work in civil service. One of my friends in a top Lagos private hospital, one of the best in naija just sent in his application. Yorubas would say, ti te ni kan oba baje, ti elo mi ko ni da. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by aletheia(m): 4:16pm On May 09, 2012 |
ekt_bear:^ Very soon, you will discover the limits of propaganda. You are too quick to believe these politicians. Meanwhile, confusion and lull took over at the General Hospital, Badagry, on Tuesday following the sacking of the 788 striking doctors by the Lagos State government. So ekt_bear, can the commissioner tell you where the "newly employed" doctors are? By Friday, after the completion of the ongoing professional exams at LUTH; you will see a severe escalation of the strike as ALL hospitals both Federal and State owned in Lagos become paralysed by NMA. A lot of you keep talking about the Hippocratic oath and fail to pay attention to these lines therein: MY COLLEAGUES will be my sisters and brothers. As I 've previously said, it will be interesting to see how you guys spin this when Fashola climbs down. Meanwhile the hypocrisy is nauseating and stinks to high heavens: if a non-ACN governor "sacks" over 700 doctors we know what you guys would have said. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Demdem(m): 4:21pm On May 09, 2012 |
Demdem: Just need to be clear on these issues. They werent attended to in the report. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by youngmonie: 4:47pm On May 09, 2012 |
Would keeep saying it....THATHCER STYLE IS THE BEST...........all these Unions have toooooooooo much power in this country and the government would do nothing about it because time and time again we have seen leaders of unions used as political tools. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Nobody: 6:00pm On May 09, 2012 |
ekt_bear:those sacked i beleive wit their experience, abroad here the come. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Gbawe: 6:22pm On May 09, 2012 |
My honest opinion is that this is hard to call. I absolutely agree that employers should always do their best to provide the best terms possible for their employees. I think employees must agitate for the best employment terms possible. Employees , however, cannot hold employers to ransom forever. If employees and employers cannot be reconciled then a parting of ways is inevitable. It is either that the Doctors can resign and seek what they are agitating for elsewhere or their employer (the State Government in this case) can sack them. What cannot hold is for employees to demand that they must compulsorily and rigidly be employed under their own terms in the modern labour market where , ultimately, everyone is replaceable if employer and employee cannot see eye to eye. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ektbear: 6:23pm On May 09, 2012 |
If it were that easy, then they'd have left already. After all, it isn't like a doctor in Nigeria will make money comparable to what doctors makes abroad. However, getting a visa isn't easy. Neither is passing licensing exams... You basically need some wealthy relative already abroad who will sponsor, house and feed you while you study for your exams. An exam that not everyone passes on their first try. Long story short, Lagos shouldn't concern themselves much with that...whether these doctors go abroad or not is not their concern (though it is a loss for Nigeria as a whole.) Lagos's only concern should be to replace those sacked. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Nobody: 7:15pm On May 09, 2012 |
If any professional i.e docs,nurses,pharm,engr,teacher,plumber,electrician,social worker e.t.c wants to move abroad, its their prerogative. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by phantom(m): 10:21pm On May 09, 2012 |
this fashola man is just power drunk but very soon the drink go clear for im eye....siddon,look,laugh na im i dey... |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ektbear: 10:49pm On May 09, 2012 |
Is it true that they were still being paid while they were striking, by the way? I read this somewhere, but I find it hard to believe that this really happened. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by onomeasike: 1:44am On May 10, 2012 |
The killer doctors currently sacked should be prosecuted and jailed for crimes committed against humanity ,particularly,lives of patients lost due to their unprofessional appetite for real and imaginary allowances. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by EkoIle1: 2:38am On May 10, 2012 |
ekt_bear: Is it true that they were still being paid while they were striking, by the way? No they are not. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Rhino5dm: 2:54am On May 10, 2012 |
why do people always like to down play the atrocities of these doctors? I had this medical condition and I decided to see a consultant at UPTH(university of portharcourt teaching hospital) in PH, they told to me to come in six days time, because the consultant is occupied with previous appointments. After deciding to go back home, a nurse came out from no where to advice me on how to get the service of the consultant in shortest time i.e at his private clinic. I gave her nod in acceptance of her terms and she handed me a complimentary card bearing the address and contacts of the consultant said to be occupied, I put a call through and book appointment within seconds, I drove down to his clinic, a rented 2 bedroom flat with a very poor physical condition, paid registration fee in form buying an out patient card @ 2500 naira. In short I spent a total of 25 000 naira before leaving that clinic, for a service that shouldn't cost me more than 5 000 naira at UPTH. They are now using public offices to divert patients under false pretence to their clinics, while competing for the latest SUV in town and yet some foolish doctors are here yapping thrash and claiming nonsense. Majority of doctors in nigeria are fraud and very heartless creatures. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ektbear: 2:55am On May 10, 2012 |
Eko Ile: Ah, thanks. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ektbear: 2:55am On May 10, 2012 |
phantom: this fashola man is just power drunk but very soon the drink go clear for im eye....siddon,look,laugh na im i dey... Power drunk You usually are a fairly rational man. What would you do in the same situation, then? |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by aletheia(m): 4:17pm On May 10, 2012 |
ekt_bear: A rational man would not sack nearly the entire workforce of doctors in his state. An irrational misguided and ill-advised one would. Remember this quote: A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. So where are the newly employed doctors? At least one would expect to see some of them in LASUTH if not in any other of the state-run hospitals. As doctors’ strike in Lagos State continues, MAUREEN AZUH captures the state of activities at the Lagos University Teaching Hospital, Ikeja Lagosians are not deceived by LASG's propaganda, but some of you on the internet forums like NL are taken in. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ngak: 8:57am On May 12, 2012 |
Propaganda in action. I thought lagos state had 1100 doctors......fired 788.........has employed 372 where are the 784 on ground working from, (he sacked doctors.......I went to randle to see for my self to find out that 2 doctors were coverind the entire hospital Think what you may, but lagos state needs to be honest with us about the situation on ground as we are the ones going to the hospitals 1 Like |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Nobody: 11:30pm On May 12, 2012 |
@ all against fashiola, Is few newly employed doctors not better than none, or would u rather the strikin doctors stay outta office why people die every other day? |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by ishmael(m): 8:18am On May 13, 2012 |
ASUU should learn from this. No group of people are above being sacked and replaced with others. If they do anyhow they will see anyhow. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by doofanc: 9:14am On May 13, 2012 |
For their patented insolence, sexual incontinence, refusal to subject themselves to the authority of anyone not a doctor(even if he's their employer!) , inordinate pride, and the general but unfounded belief that they're God's greatest gift to mankind, Nigerian doctors, surely must take the crown as the most reviled, most detested in the world. How can one even begin to defend the fiendishly callous act of abandoning critically ill patient just to partake in a strike? The action of Fashiola must be commended which, it is hoped, will be replicted in other states where doctors may be tempted to tow the line of their frustrated Lagos counterparts. |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Mynd44: 9:47am On May 13, 2012 |
The doctors dared the government and their bluff was called. Now is the time for them to come back to settle this. The doctors will do well to think along this line least they find themselves jobless and homeless |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by phantom(m): 11:06am On May 13, 2012 |
Mynd_44: The doctors dared the government and their bluff was called. Now is the time for them to come back to settle this. The doctors will do well to think along this line least they find themselves jobless and homeless...its lagosians that will suffer...not the doctors...make no mistake about it! |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by Rhino5dm: 11:15am On May 13, 2012 |
Are you not tired of peddling thesame lies over and over? For your info, the replacement process is very fast and many doctors are now attending to patients. The wicked must be put to shame. DoctorHaram!! phantom: |
Re: Lagos: ‘why Doctors Were Fired’. by phantom(m): 11:30am On May 13, 2012 |
ekt_bear:you are fairly rational too....what would you do?these doctors are complaining that an agreement signed since 2009 has not been implemented and you see nothing wrong with it the lagos state government is telling lagosians that anytime doctors strike its because they want more money.THATS A BIG FAT LIE....this current strike is due to the fact that the lagos state govt has not honoured its 2009 agreement.Pure and simple.lets leave sentiments aside. WAS THERE AN AGREEMENT?YES HAS IT BEEN HONOURED?NO the truth is that there are provisions in the medical salary scale the lagos state govt is not willing to look into.rivers state govt was held to ransom by its doctors not too long ago.amaechi came out and agreed to pay 70% of conmess (house officer earns 180+) and brand new cars for all.brand new cars at 6-7million * 600 doctors= 3.6bn which is far less than what he would have to pay in the long run if he decided to pay %100. Now no state doctor in rivers will open his mouth and scream strike till amaechi leaves....That is wisdom! |
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