Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,837 members, 7,817,477 topics. Date: Saturday, 04 May 2024 at 12:55 PM

Jesus Was Created From Mithra - Religion - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Jesus Was Created From Mithra (1806 Views)

The Prophet (Beirut, Lebanon, 1983 Revisited) / How The Universe Was Created And Who Created It, Disproving Atheism / Science Has Proved That A Woman Was Created From A Man (2) (3) (4)

(1) (Reply) (Go Down)

Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 12:19pm On Jul 13, 2012
Gospel authors exposed as imposters
There is something else involved in this scenario and it is recorded in the Catholic Encyclopedia . An appreciation of the clerical mindset arises when the Church itself admits that it does not know who wrote its Gospels and Epistles, confessing that all 27 New Testament writings began life anonymously:
"It thus appears that the present titles of the Gospels are not traceable to the evangelists themselves ... they [the New Testament collection] are supplied with titles which, however ancient, do not go back to the respective authors of those writings."
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vi, pp. 655-6)
The Church maintains that "the titles of our Gospels were not intended to indicate authorship", adding that "the headings ... were affixed to them" (Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. i, p. 117, vol. vi, pp. 655, 656). Therefore they are notGospels written "according to Matthew, Mark, Luke or John", as publicly stated. The full force of this confession reveals that there are no genuine apostolic Gospels, and that the Church's shadowy writings today embody the very ground and pillar of Christian foundations and faith.
The consequences are fatal to the pretence of Divine origin of the entire New Testament and expose Christian texts as having no special authority. For centuries, fabricated Gospels bore Church certification of authenticity now confessed to be false, and this provides evidence that Christian writings are wholly fallacious.
After years of dedicated New Testament research, Dr Tischendorf expressed dismay at the differences between the oldest and newest Gospels, and had trouble understanding...
"...how scribes could allow themselves to bring in here and there changes which were not simply verbal ones, but such as materially affected the very meaning and, what is worse still, did not shrink from cutting out a passage or inserting one."
(Alterations to the Sinai Bible, Dr Constantin von Tischendorf, 1863, available in the British Library, London)
After years of validating the fabricated nature of the New Testament, a disillusionedDr Tischendorf confessed that modern-day editions have "been altered in many places" and are "not to be accepted as true" ( When Were Our Gospels Written? , DrConstantin von Tischendorf, 1865, British Library, London).
Just what is Christianity?
The important question then to ask is this: if the New Testament is not historical, what is it?
Dr Tischendorf provided part of the answer when he said in his 15,000 pages of critical notes on the Sinai Bible that,
"it seems that the personage of Jesus Christ was made narrator for many religions".
This explains how narratives from the ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, appearverbatim in the Gospels today (e.g., Matt. 1:25, 2:11, 8:1-4, 9:1-8, 9:18-26), and why passages from the Phenomena of the Greek statesman Aratus of Sicyon (271-213 BC) are in the New Testament.
Extracts from the Hymn to Zeus , written by Greek philosopher Cleanthes (c. 331-232 BC), are also found in the Gospels, as are 207 words from the Thais of Menander (c. 343-291), one of the "seven wise men" of Greece. Quotes from the semi-legendary Greek poet Epimenides (7th or 6th century BC) are applied to the lips of Jesus Christ , and seven passages from the curious Ode of Jupiter (c. 150 BC; author unknown) are reprinted in the New Testament.
Tischendorf 's conclusion also supports Professor Bordeaux 's Vatican findings that reveal the allegory of Jesus Christ derived from the fable of Mithra , the divine son ofGod (Ahura Mazda) and messiah of the first kings of the Persian Empire around 400 BC. His birth in a grotto was attended by magi who followed a star from the East. They brought "gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh" (as in Matt. 2:11) and the newborn baby was adored by shepherds. He came into the world wearing the Mithraic cap, which popes imitated in various designs until well into the 15th century.
Mithra , one of a trinity, stood on a rock, the emblem of the foundation of his religion, and was anointed with honey. After a last supper with Helios and 11 other companions, Mithra was crucified on a cross, bound in linen, placed in a rock tomb and rose on the third day or around 25 March (the full moon at the spring equinox, a time now called Easter after the Babylonian goddess Ishtar ). The fiery destructionof the universe was a major doctrine of Mithraism - a time in which Mithra promisedto return in person to Earth and save deserving souls. Devotees of Mithra partook ina sacred communion banquet of bread and wine, a ceremony that paralleled the Christian Eucharist and preceded it by more than four centuries.
Christianity is an adaptation of,
*.
Mithraism welded with the Druidic principles of the Culdees
*.
some Egyptian elements (the pre-Christian Book of Revelation was originally called The Mysteries of Osiris and Isis)
*.
Greek philosophy
*.
various aspects of Hinduism
Why there are no records of Jesus Christ
It is not possible to find in any legitimate religious or historical writings compiled between the beginning of the first century and well into the fourth century any reference to Jesus Christ and the spectacular events that the Church says accompanied his life.
This confirmation comes from Frederic Farrar (1831-1903) of Trinity College, Cambridge:
"It is amazing that history has not embalmed for us even one certain or definite saying or circumstance in the life of the Saviour of mankind ... there is no statementin all history that says anyone saw Jesus or talked with him. Nothing in history is more astonishing than the silence of contemporary writers about events relayed in the four Gospels."
(The Life of Christ, Frederic W. Farrar, Cassell, London, 1874)
This situation arises from a conflict between history and New Testament narratives. Dr Tischendorf made this comment:
"We must frankly admit that we have no source of information with respect to the life of Jesus Christ other than ecclesiastic writings assembled during the fourth century."
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by buzugee(m): 12:21pm On Jul 13, 2012
mithra ko milk ni
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Kay17: 12:30pm On Jul 13, 2012
^^ that's all you have to say about a firm criticism on the foundations of your religion?!
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 12:36pm On Jul 13, 2012
buzugee: mithra ko milk ni
whenever you make your assertions,i always follow the process of painstakingly reading and even researching so i dont argue blindly.i suggest you do same
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_40.htm
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by buzugee(m): 12:36pm On Jul 13, 2012
Kay 17: ^^ that's all you have to say about a firm criticism on the foundations of your religion?!
yes. wink
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by plaetton: 12:36pm On Jul 13, 2012
Wow.
That is why christianity, the old religion of Europe, is not part of the academic curriculum of any civilised nation.
And poor silly Africans are waiting for this imaginary character to come back from non-existsence and whisk them off to an imaginary heaven.
Pity.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 12:41pm On Jul 13, 2012
"Both Mithras and Christ were described variously as 'the Way,' 'the Truth,' 'the Light,' 'the Life,' 'the Word,' 'the Son of God,' 'the Good Shepherd.' The Christian litany to Jesus could easily be an allegorical litany to the sun-god. Mithras is often represented as carrying a lamb on his shoulders, just as Jesus is. Midnight services were foundin both religions. The virgin mother...was easily merged with the virgin mother Mary. Petra, the sacred rock of Mithraism, became Peter, the foundation of the Christian Church."
Gerald Berry, Religions of the World
"Mithra or Mitra is...worshipped as Itu ( Mitra-Mitu-Itu ) in every house of the Hindus in India. Itu (derivative of Mitu or Mitra) is considered as the Vegetation-deity. This Mithra or Mitra (Sun-God) is believed to be a Mediator between God and man, between the Sky and the Earth. It is said that Mithra or [the] Sun took birth in the Cave on December 25th. It is also the belief of the Christian world that Mithra or the Sun-God was born of [a] Virgin. He travelled far and wide. He has twelve satellites, which are taken as the Sun's disciples.... [The Sun's] great festivals are observed in the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox — Christmas and Easter. His symbol is the Lamb...."
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 12:45pm On Jul 13, 2012
ographical and environmental factors.
Mithra and Christ
Over the centuries—in fact, from the earliest Christian times—Mithraism has been compared to Christianity, revealing numerous similarities between the two faiths' doctrines and traditions, including as concerns stories of their respective godmen. In developing this analysis, it should be kept in mind that elements from Roman, Armenian and Persian Mithraism are utilized, not as a whole ideology but as separate items that may have affected the creation of Christianity, whether directly through the mechanism of Mithraism or through another Pagan source within the Roman Empire and beyond. The evidence points to these motifs and elements being adopted into Christianity not as a whole from one source but singularly from many sources, including Mithraism.
"The evidence points to these motifs and elements being adopted into Christianity ..."
Thus, the following list represents not a solidified mythos or narrative of one particular Mithra or form of the god as developed inone particular culture and era but, rather, a combination of them all for ease of reference as to any possible influences upon Christianity under the name of Mitra/Mithra/Mithras.
Mithra has the following in common with the Jesus character:
*.
Mithra was born on December 25th of the virgin Anahita.
*.
The babe was wrapped in swaddling clothes, placed in a manger and attended by shepherds.
*.
He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
*.
He had 12 companions or "disciples."
*.
He performed miracles.
*.
As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
*.
He ascended to heaven.
*.
Mithra was viewed as the Good Shepherd, the "Way, the Truth and the Light," the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah.
*.
Mithra is omniscient, as he "hears all, sees all, knows all: none can deceive him."
*.
He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
*.
His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
*.
His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper."
*.
Mithra "sets his marks on the foreheads of his soldiers."
*.
Mithraism emphasized baptism.
December 25th Birthday
The similarities between Mithraism and Christianity have included their chapels, the term "father" for priest, celibacy and, it is notoriously claimed, the December 25 th birthdate. Over the centuries, apologists contending that Mithraism copied Christianity nevertheless have asserted that the December 25 th birthdate was taken from Mithraism. As Sir Arthur Weigall says:
December 25 th was really the date, not of the birth of Jesus, but of the sun-god Mithra. Horus, son of Isis, however, was in very early times identified with Ra, the Egyptian sun-god, and hence with Mithra...
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 12:48pm On Jul 13, 2012
i am sure the "lord's soldiers" would soon arrive to accuse me of blasphemy and probably condemn me to hell
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by plaetton: 12:57pm On Jul 13, 2012
How many Nigerians read and study histroy beyond 1914 amalgamation or Othoman dan Fodio's jihad?
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Nobody: 1:15pm On Jul 13, 2012
plaetton: How many Nigerians read and study histroy beyond 1914 amalgamation or Othoman dan Fodio's jihad?

The Nok people of central Nigeria produced the earliest terracotta sculptures found in the country.[7] In the northern part of the country, Kano and Katsina have a recorded history dating back to around 999 AD. Hausa kingdoms and the Kanem-Bornu Empire prospered as trade posts between North and West Africa.
Also in the North, at the beginning of the 19th century under Usman dan Fodio, the Fulani led the centralized Fulani Empire, which continued until 1903 when the Fulani population and land were divided into various European colonies. Between 1750 and 1900, one to two-thirds of the population of the Fulani jihad states consisted of slaves.[8]
The Yoruba kingdoms of Ife and Oyo in southwestern Nigeria became prominent in the 12th[9][10] and 14th[11] century respectively. Yoruba mythology states that Ile-Ife is the source of the human race and that it pre-dates any other civilization. The oldest signs of human settlement dates back to the 9th century.[9] Ifẹ produced terracotta and bronze figures, and Ọyọ once extended from western Nigeria to Togo. The Kingdom of Benin is located in southwestern Nigeria. Benin's power lasted between the 15th and 19th century. Their dominance reached as far as the city of Eko (an Edo name later changed to Lagos by the Portuguese) and further.[12]
The Kingdom of Nri of the Igbo people started in the 10th century and continued until it lost its sovereignty to the British in 1911. It is the oldest kingdom in Nigeria.[13][14] Nri was ruled by the Eze Nri, and the city of Nri is considered to be the foundation of Igbo culture. Nri and Aguleri, where the Igbo creation myth originates, are in the territory of the Umeuri clan; they trace their lineages back to the patriarchal king-figure Eri.[15] The oldest pieces of bronzes made out of the lost-wax process in West Africa were from Igbo Ukwu, a city under Nri influence.[13]
The people traded overland with traders from North Africa for centuries. In the 16th century, Spanish and Portuguese explorers were the first Europeans to begin trade in Nigeria, in the port they named Lagos and in Calabar. The Europeans traded goods with the peoples of the coast. Soon they also negotiated for a portion of the existing African slave trade. Traditionally, peoples captured in war were made slaves by the conquerors. Usually they were taken back to the conquerors' territory, put to work and sometimes acculturated and eventually absorbed into the other culture. When the Europeans entered the trade, they transported slaves mostly to the Americas to work as laborers. Particularly in what became the United States, slavery became a permanent racial caste to which people of African descent were confined. The demands of the slave trade produced a greater market in slaves than had existed before. Nigerian ethnic groups were transported to the Americas and the Caribbean as part of the African diaspora of slavery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jul 13, 2012
The Aro Confederacy, whose powers extended across Eastern Nigeria and beyond was challenged in the last decades of the 19th century by increasing British penetration of the hinterland. The Aro people and their allies resisted the penetration which threatened their culture, influence, and sovereignty.

Reasons advanced by the United Kingdom included:

"To abolish slave trade which is secretly carried on throughout the entire territories belonging to, and dominated by the Aros. To abolish the fetish of the Aros known as Longjuju, which they by superstition and fraud causes many evils among the tribes generally, and to all the outlying tribes of the entire protectorate, who continually appeal to it. Finally, to establish throughout the territories a labour market to take the place of slavery." (quote by Sir Ralph Moore, the high Commissioner of Nigerian Coast Protectorate).[1]
http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/karticles/longjuju.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Aro_War
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jul 13, 2012
Resistance was strong in western Igboland where a series of wars were waged against the British. The Ekumeku, who were well organized and whose leaders were joined in secrecy oaths, effectively utilized guerrilla tactics to attack the British. Their forces, which were drawn from thousands of Igbo youth from all parts of igboland, created many problems for the British, but the British used forceful tactics and heavy armaments (destroying homes, farms, and roads) to prevail. The Ekumeku, however, became a great source of Igbo nationalism.
The Ekumeku Movement is unique in Igbo history for two reasons. First, the length of time the movement endured, comprising Military campaigns over a period of thirty one years. Secondly it is the outstanding example in Igbo Civilization of an attempt to unite previously disunited states to resist the invader. You have seen that one crucial reason for Igbo defeat was the great discrepancy of scale between the average Igbo community and the colonial invader. The British decided on a preemptive strike, and in December, 1902 sent a powerful expedition which systematically destroyed a number of towns and imprisoned their leaders. This, it was assumed, was the end of the Ekumeku.."the Ekumeku and other secret societies have been completely broken".

http://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/c1800s/yr80/fnigeria1883.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekumeku_War
In 1904, the Ekumeku rose again. This time the changed their tactics, mistakenly, it would seem in retrospect, abandoning the united guerilla warfare of 1898 for the individual defense of each town. The last act of the Eureka drama began in late 1909. The occasion was a succession dispute in Ogwashi-Uku. One of the claimants, Nzekwe, the son of the last Obi, feared that the British would deprive him of his throne, and decided to fight for his inheritance.

On November 2, 1909, the British sent an expedition to Ogwashi-Uku to kill everyone in Ogwashi-Uku but they failed in the expedition. The British perceived, in the whole Asaba hinterland, a sympathy with the Ekumeku, and a disposition to throw off government authority. In 1911, there was a final round-up of Ekumeku leaders in various towns that was followed, once more, by imprisonments.
The acting lieutenant-governor of the southern provinces sent an agitated telegram to Lagos: "Whole country is above area...is the state of rebellion." Reinforcements arrived from Lokoja, and the British proceeded to a confrontation at Akegbe. We quote both the contemporary British accounts of the battle at Nkwo market.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:28pm On Jul 13, 2012
Delafruita:

whenever you make your assertions,i always follow the process of painstakingly reading and even researching so i dont argue blindly.i suggest you do same
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_40.htm

You've been sold a lie. Painstakingly read and research for the truth, it shall set you free. Below is a suggested link telling you why Mary will be crying today when she sees what crime has been done in her name.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0040/0040_01.asp

Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by plaetton: 1:44pm On Jul 13, 2012
@Martian.

Very interesting. Our academic curriculums needs an overhaul that places emphasis on history.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 3:22pm On Jul 13, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

You've been sold a lie. Painstakingly read and research for the truth, it shall set you free. Below is a suggested link telling you why Mary will be crying today when she sees what crime has been done in her name.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0040/0040_01.asp
still dont understand the correlation between the link and the thread.how does this connect to mithra?you probably missed the point that if jesus was indeed an adaptation of mithra,then mary as well never existed but was an adaptation of ahinma,mithra's mother
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:41pm On Jul 13, 2012
Delafruita:

still dont understand the correlation between the link and the thread.how does this connect to mithra?you probably missed the point that if jesus was indeed an adaptation of mithra,then mary as well never existed but was an adaptation of ahinma,mithra's mother

The correlation is that the devil's tactics have not changed for the past 6,000 years, as he has continued to deceive those who doubt, deny and reject the truth. He replaces the truth with a lie and you lot swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 3:46pm On Jul 13, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

The correlation is that the devil's tactics have not changed for the past 6,000 years, as he has continued to deceive those who doubt, deny and reject the truth. He replaces the truth with a lie and you lot swallow it hook, line and sinker.
do yourself a favour,ask google to tell you about mithra.go through as many links as possible with an unbiased mind then return to this thread for a proper discussion
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:11pm On Jul 13, 2012
Delafruita:
do yourself a favour,ask google to tell you about mithra.go through as many links as possible with an unbiased mind then return to this thread for a proper discussion

My findings shows that the religion of Mithra was a counterfeit of early Christianity as the pictures above portray.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 6:47pm On Jul 13, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

My findings shows that the religion of Mithra was a counterfeit of early Christianity as the pictures above portray.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries
why was i so sure you were going to be scared to find out the "real damaging stuff"?google "mithra".just the word.read about.....scratch that.lemme do the hard work for you,all you need to do is read it
http://www.truthbeknown.com/mithra.htm
http://jdstone.org/cr/files/mithraschristianity.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/Mithraism.html
http://www.edwardjayne.com/christology/mithra.html
http://www.comereason.org/cmp_rlgn/cmp070.asp
read these links with an unbiased mind.do your own research and attempt to disprove it as best as you can
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jul 13, 2012
Kay 17: ^^ that's all you have to say about a firm criticism on the foundations of your religion?!

its not dear Lord. there are threads here debunking this nonsense decisively. Apparently you havent investigated this fraudulent claim, you're just supportive because it tallies with your own mindset.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jul 13, 2012
plaetton: Wow.
That is why christianity, the old religion of Europe, is not part of the academic curriculum of any civilised nation.
And poor silly Africans are waiting for this imaginary character to come back from non-existsence and whisk them off to an imaginary heaven.
Pity.

ignorant. please read here https://www.nairaland.com/342153/welcome-shakerz-most-incisive-muslim/1#4811470

and here - https://www.nairaland.com/343660/jesus-mithraism-facts#4812058

Dealt with 3 yrs ago.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by MrAnony1(m): 8:23pm On Jul 13, 2012
davidylan:

ignorant. please read here https://www.nairaland.com/342153/welcome-shakerz-most-incisive-muslim/1#4811470

and here - https://www.nairaland.com/343660/jesus-mithraism-facts#4812058

Dealt with 3 yrs ago.

Wow thanks David, just read the threads. There is really nothing new in Nairaland under the sun.

It is even funnier how those who claim to not believe are so quick to throw in their support for a religion they don't believe attempting to discredit another religion they equally don't believe.
It seems to me that they hate one myth so much that they will be happy to see another myth discredit it.

Lol, Kay 17 even called it "firm criticism". I laugh in Efik.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Ptolomeus(m): 10:21pm On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:

Wow thanks David, just read the threads. There is really nothing new in Nairaland under the sun.

It is even funnier how those who claim to not believe are so quick to throw in their support for a religion they don't believe attempting to discredit another religion they equally don't believe.
It seems to me that they hate one myth so much that they will be happy to see another myth discredit it.

Lol, Kay 17 even called it "firm criticism". I laugh in Efik.
Yes, I think we're talking about a myth.
I have a slight discrepancy with the posing.
In my opinion, the MYTH (as you say) of Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church was founded with the Emperor Constantine, 250 years after the death of that Jew.
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Delafruita(m): 10:34pm On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:

Wow thanks David, just read the threads. There is really nothing new in Nairaland under the sun.

It is even funnier how those who claim to not believe are so quick to throw in their support for a religion they don't believe attempting to discredit another religion they equally don't believe.
It seems to me that they hate one myth so much that they will be happy to see another myth discredit it.

Lol, Kay 17 even called it "firm criticism". I laugh in Efik.
i also read the threads and there was mainly a lot of mumbo jumbo.before starting a thread,i ensure i do my due diligence on the topic.
on thhis thread,there's no attempt to promote any religion at the exxpense of another.islam is just as much a myth as christianity.only difference is historical proof of muhammad exists
Re: Jesus Was Created From Mithra by Nobody: 10:43pm On Jul 13, 2012
Delafruita:
i also read the threads and there was mainly a lot of mumbo jumbo.before starting a thread,i ensure i do my due diligence on the topic.
on thhis thread,there's no attempt to promote any religion at the exxpense of another.islam is just as much a myth as christianity.only difference is historical proof of muhammad exists

pls show us this mumbo jumbo

(1) (Reply)

A Question (or 2) For The Atheists / Traditional Religious Buildings Of Africa / Imagine There's No Heaven

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 75
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.