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I guess you right on that. Imagine 9inches of garbage telling us that trump is not a racist. What a waste of space on earth.

Mindfulness:
With all due respect, let me correct you, Trump does care about minorities. He uses them successfully to mobilize the basket of deplorables. They need someone to blame their failure on and Trump targets the weakest to cater to their needs just like Hitler did with the Jews.

Yes. He did a great job especially when he came in after we were losing 700.000 jobs a month towards the end of Bush Presidency due to Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He Obama is my hero. A guy who never inheritef a dime from his parents and became someone that will be noted in history as s positive force for humanity.

Mindfulness:
He did a great job, even Trump wants to sell Obama's economic achievements as his.

I laid down trump's bigotry and our rat from the third world went underground. Go back and fight for yout biafra and I hope you get it because it has no bearing on me or my family but please leave America to people who know what it means to live in a Western World. Trump that doesn't care about minorities in America will be giving you your independence.

Another beauty from you angel. You can't compare a metropolitan city of 9 million to a city of 500.000. It's like comparing the crime inLagos to the crime in ogbomosho. It's ludicrous. The republiconns will grab to anything ti denigrate a great man named Obama but they failed because he won twice overwhelmingly and his approval rating is still sky high. Obama is the only president in American history to ever show his birth certificate and we all know why. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but you never hear the Republicans make a deal about that but a brother born in Hawaii is not American to them. This people are despicable bigots.

Mindfulness:
The focus on Chicago has been hugely overblown under the Obama administration. We, overseas, have always known that America has a problem with gang related violence, the focus on Chicago shifted under the Obama administration to the point, that even we in Europe, were thinking that Chicago is worse than Lagos.

Nobody claims that Chicago has not been an issue before Obama but if you must use statistics put them in context. Compare the numbers per capita instead of lose numbers. It is clear that a city with more inhabitants will have a higher violence rate than a village with fewer people. That's the point!

And you have ignored the point I made about the birther movement. You may want to address why a birth certificate became an issue when a black man became the president and never before. If you tell me that it has nothing to do with violence, then you are either lying to us or to yourself or both.

All you need to do is Google crimes in American cities and get back to me. I am never afraid to go anywhere in Chicago land . That's all I will say. I am well protected by my Glock and like I told you once, if I have to go down, ain't gonna go down like a punk.

raumdeuter:
Below is an article from Depaul university way back in 2003 before Obama even got into Politics. By the way, Obama was in politics in 2001 but at State level here representing Hyde Park. I will take the statistics of FBI over Depaul University.



This article is telling us Chicago led the nation in murders as far back as 2001. But the lying liberals want us to believe nothing like that happens in Chicago and it was a made up story by Fox news

You are a mo.ron like trump you worship. Will give you many instances of trump's racism but I know your brain is too shallow to absorb it but I will try anyway. Firstly, he was charged in Queens, NY with his father by HUD for blacklisting blacks out of their rental units. Secondly, the case of Central Park Five came to mind because those guys were about the same age I was then. This were 4 black guys and one latino guy that were arrested for rape and assault of a white female jogger who was found dead. They were prosecuted and jailed for life but lawyers rose up because a lot of things didn't add up. DNA was done and it came out that the 5 young people were innocent of the charges and they were set free and each was given $13 million for unjust imprisonment. Donald the racist ranted and put adverts all over the NY dailies asking for them to be executed even after the real murderer was identified. Up till today, our famous mo, ron never apologize for his bigotry and trying to take the life of five young minorities. Another one, Judge Curiel who was born and raised in Indiana was hearing his case about the Fake and Unaccredited Trumo University, he called the judge Mexican that won't be fair to him and the judge is American of Mexican descendant. He started his campaign by calling Mexicans drug dealers, rapists and gang bangers. Even republican House Speaker called him out of that to say that's textbook racism. Obama wad born in Kenya according to our racist in chief. Obama was forced to produce his long form birth certificate and the useless birther in chief still believe up to date that obama is an illegitimate president. The same bigot who hailed racists and Klans carrying Tiki Torches in Charlottesville as good men but deriding black men kneeling for injustice going on in America as Son of Bitches. I can go further but I will stop here for space. He's an avowed White supremacist and millions of Americans believe so and what you think in your rat hole doesn't count because you don't count when it comes to America.

9inches:
Conclusions like this sidetracks the argument and makes the argument useless to continue with.


It’s hard to continue a conversation with anyone when all they try to do is hurl around epithets instead of addressing the issue at hand.


You can simply tell when someone does not have a valid argument as soon as he starts veering off the point and going rogue with disparaging comments. That withstanding, let's dissect this since it has something to do with an actual event.

1. Nothing proves Trump is a racist. This is a case of giving a dog a bad name in order to hang him. There should be proof or substantiated evidence that he is a racist. He also did not hail any "Nazis marching in Charlottesville as good men". On the contrary, he actually condemned everyone that perpetuated hate and violence in Charlottesvile. This includes both violent groups of antifa and white supremacists.

2. Again, this a false narrative. In Trump's words, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!” You see, nothing says "Black NFL players" here, rather, it was a general statement for ALL players irrespective of color... But I know race baiters like yourself will make it a race issue.


This is nothing other than wishful thinking; it has no basis and is off the point of argument.


Now you see why I say your debate idol abbeybailey cannot make a good argument bereft of ab absurdo; this tells more about yourself as well.

Your post is full of lies. There's nothing that goes on in Chicago crime wise that's unique to Chicago alone. Chicagoland is about 9 million people and you don't expect her to be crime free. No big city in America is crime free. Infact, I can say there's hardly and city in America that's crime free. Don't make it sound like Chicago is unique when it comes to crime. All you need to do is Google crime cities in America and see what the experts on crime (FBI) lists Chicago. The prime problems in Chicago are basically in couple neighborhoods mainly Englewood and Back of The Yards on the South Side of chicago. The Republicans were hyping it up to demean Obama like Obama was the one tormenting trouble in that part of tiwn. I go anywhere in Chicago land and America and I am well equipped to defend myselg plus I am not a kind of brother that put down my fellow brothers to make the whites happy. I am a damn proud and uppity brother who is proud of my color and not looking to be validated by any man. In conclusion, Mindfulness is absolutely right for saying that the Republicans were hyping chicago crime to denigrate Obama. It backfired because Obama brought America out of Bush depression and created almost 20 million jobs and his approval ratings is sky high unlike our favorite mo.ron with 38% according to Faux News.

raumdeuter:
I schooled lived and worked in Chicago before Obama became president and crime rates in South Chicago has always been a big issue. Always discussed in the news even before Obama became president. That is one of the first things people warn you about when you are new to town

A prominent nairalander a young man coming back from school his Masters class in Mechanical Engineering was shot dead in front of his fathers house in this same area. A friend of mine had his car taken at gun point and joyriden around the same area. So when I talk about crime in Chicago I know what I am talking about

I am sure Lucasbalo too cannot visit certain areas of South Chicago without checking over his shoulders frequently

Are you sayng the 102 people shot on July 4 didnt happen or they were made up to make Obama look bad or probably shot by Trump so that he can blame Obama for it

Like I told you once before, go back to your tribal section and fight for your Biafra. I have no ball in that game. When it comes to my beloved America, you and your fellow rat pack barely ekking out a living on your meagre resources don't have a say about how we that are affected should react to a mo.ronic president. Like I said, go sell your earthly possessions and I doubt if it will be up to anything significant. The only place you get your 15 minutes of fame is on nairaland after hustling to buy your N200 data.

9inches:
I wonder how anybody could wager with you and still maintains his sanity. With all your arguments bereft of logic and an evidential deep phobia for facts, your go-to for a rebuttal to oppositing fact-based argument is hurling ad hominems. Until you learn to argue constructively without infusing racial epithets and senseless sentiments, you cannot win any argument even with a first grader.

Waiting for your signature go-to in 3....2.....1.....

When Faux News poll have him at 38%, you know this is a presidency in chaos. He's lawyered up and so is little mafioso Don Jnr and some of his aides waiting for the hammer coming from Director Mueller.

Mindfulness:
I do not care if they regret it, they should be ashamed.

This man played to racist sentiments, insulted women, veterans, disabled, promoted xenophobia, made unrealistic promises, promoted the birther movement and lied, lied, lied. If you voted for him, you should have a check up from the neck up an sue your former teachers for messing with your education.

I think trump being a conman that he's ( Trump University ), he pulled the biggest scam in history and a lot of gullible Americans fell for it. I work with bunch of White guys that voted for him but I can easily guess that 80% of them are regretting it. Buyers remorse at best. I have known of him for 30 years and have no respect for him. A man that cheated his two nephews out of their father's (tramp big brother) inheritance out of greed. He doesn't care about anyone except himself. A worthless pus*sy grabber that lust after his own daughter.

Mindfulness:
Americans have had the reputation of being ignorant around the rest of the Western world. I thought it was a cliche and a prejudice but seeing how many people voted for the moronic reality TV star, this perception has been partly confirmed. You must be extremely dumb to even consider Trump remotely capable of running a country.

Amen to that and more grease to Director Mueller's elbow.

Mindfulness:
Long live Director Mueller!

Yes and you see how quickly the racist pig declare opioids as a National emergency when white people are overdosing and dying of drug abuse. When Reagan was flooding inner cities America with Cocaine to fund his Contra war in El Salvador, they never care about the Blacks and Browns dying but now that the rooster is coming home to roost in suburban America, they want sympathy. Hell no, let them reap what they sow.

Mindfulness:
Now these hugely overblown crime rates are no longer relevant because 'we are all Americans'. But it was relevant when Obama was president.

Gbam. You nailed it as usual.You minding that guy. He supports tramp and if trampy hates Obama with all of Obama's accomplishments in life, imagine what he will think about the house negros kissing his orange behind. Self hating house negroes they all are. I asked him to Google the crime rates of different cities in America and see where Chicago stands and he kept quiet like he did when I took him uo on his wager. They took after their racist lord, all noise and no action.

Mindfulness:
Who are we kidding?

Repubs unjustly put Chicago in the spotlight because that's where Obama comes from, at least that was the assumption before Trump promoted the racist birther movement.

Stop acting so innocent and silly now. It's ridiculous.

It's not only an international nightmare, trampy is an international embarrassment. First time in my life I can seriously say I am not proud of my POTUS. A worthless race baiting human debris with an IQ of a 2nd Grader.

Mindfulness:
It is an international nightmare.

I never doubted that Director Mueller will get to the bottom of Russiagate because he was a very good FBI Director appointed by Bush Jnr and reappointed by Obama. He's a registered Republican and that will hush the mouth of partisan lapdogs except the never do well rat pack on nairaland.

Mindfulness:
It is a developing story and I love it.

Good one my sister. It's midnight here and just coming home after the outing with my wife and I am switching between MSNBC and CNN and I am in heaven seeing that our National nightmare will be over sooner or later.

Mindfulness:
Halleluja!
Beautiful news! I love waking up to beautiful news.

Fox CEO's are huddled together trying to figure out how they can blame Hillary, Bill, Obama, Pelosi, an African American teen, a Mexican immigrant, a hippie, anyone except the people around Trump.

I concur with that except that Gen Flynn or Manafort might snitch thinking they don't want to be a fall guy for a president with 38% approval rating. Time will tell but this is the beginning of the end of our national tragedy.

PDPGuy:
Haha

The way I see the whole situation is this: if the person(s) indicted include his son, there will be enormous pressure on President Trump to resign. Because it will be difficult for him to completely extricate himself from any illegal act perpetrated by Trump Jr, who was a top member of the campaign.

But if Gen Flynn is the one who gets arrested, the backlash may not be that severe cos the White House could claim that the early firing of the General shows that they did not condone his acts.

PDPGuy:
The first charges have been filed by the Mueller Special Prosecution.

I was talking to my brother last night and he was wondering when the Special Prosecutor indictments would be coming out and I told him that going by Watergate that's kinda similar to Russiagate, it's going to take a while. You can tell their is panick in the White House because the Head honcho and his Mafiosi son Don Jnr and his other aides are lawyering up for the eventual hammer coming down. It will be a beautiful day for decent and honorable Americans to see this aberrant and despicable racist go away from our National conscience.

PDPGuy:
The first charges have been filed by the Mueller Special Prosecution.

Good. Paul Manafort and Gen Mike Flynn will definitely be indicted and I am expecting one of them to start singing like a Canary bird not withstanding Trampy telling them codedly that he will pay for their defense.

schwarzkopf:
A jobless dependent that just wager a $1000 bet to one of your conservative gods while he chickened out like the real coward y'all are. I bet you can even afford a decent meal or meet up daily nutritional requirements. You are a dirty, brainless, vainglorious piece of mistake that mother nature is labouring hard to correct. F****k off irritant.

You know the sad part about this wager stuff is that Happney got under his skin and he challenged Happney to a wager of 1Grand. Happeny won't take the bait and he went further and challenged PDPguy to the same wager because he didn't like the disparaging post of PDPguy about Trampy. It was after that he called out Liberals to take him on and being a very proud Liberal, I took him up and told him we can double or triple and see who will back out. We all know the rest of the story. This so called Nazi lovers have one thing in common with the racist pig they worship, they are full of braggadocio. This so called village rats here can hardly eats two decent meals a day and they will hustle for N200 to buy data and come on nairaland and become an expert in anything American without ever stepping out of Nigeria in their life. It's a fetish to them and I doubt if any of the three well known rats here ( Stanech, Obixcel and 9inches of garbage) can even afford to pay for airfare to the country they are fetish about. Bunch of idiooots.

obixcel:
On November 8th 2017, President Trump will be celebrating his election victory anniversary. Guess what?
Liberals plan to scream helplessly to the sky on that day The call for that is gearing up pace especially on social media.

Brainfart, let me tell you some of the things liberalism brought to America. Working Five days and getting weekend off is liberal inventions. Social Security by the legendary FDR and so is Medicare and Medicaid. I doubt if you will know any of that since your best move in life is leaving your village to Abuja and yet you are still suffering with that paltry Naira you earn monthly. A fool that is so fetish about America and yet you can't even get a visa to go there. What a waste of life. You are doomed to perpetual life of misery hence your fetish about a place several thousands miles away from your hell hole.

9inches:
Shut up. How do you pay any tax when you are a jobless dependent. Quit claiming what you are not. I should tell you my contribution so you could believe and renounce liberal, racist and fascist ideology?

You still have 7 more years of rage. Godspeed!

9inches of village garbage. You want to take the side of your brethren who chicken out of the wager and let's see who is jobless here. I bet if you sell your earthly possessions, it won't amount to N1 million. Anonymous warrior from the village of hell.

9inches:
Good luck preaching sympathy to the hardwired liberal abbeybailey m0ron. The libtard does not know DEA is a federal agency under DOJ. He thinks the federal have no business tackling the opioid crisis.

You have to go Google that to add to your worthless post.

9inches:
Good luck preaching sympathy to the hardwired liberal abbeybailey m0ron.

Another Americanna wannabe village rat. Why don't you tell me your contribution to America except the junk you watch on Faux News ?. I and my wife are tax paying citizens in good standing and therefore I am entitled to be enraged about the way my tax money is going to be spent. Meanwhile, your Titanic is sinking and a fooool like you is so fetish about America.

obixcel:
Jesus Christ! My ears tingled and flapped like those of the elephants when I read that first part. You mean somebody can still question the role of the President as regards getting rid of crimes in cities albeit via the law enforcement channels? Is he not the Commander In Chief? I mean, asking what concerns the President with fighting crimes in whatever city? I'm astonished. My man ride on and keep administering to them the drug-facts in different doses, hopefully they will be cured from this liberal sh*t madness, cos there is nothing in the head of those foolish liberals - only Identity Politics.

Village rat, all of a sudden you are an expert in American crime from your shiiiity hellhole.CIC means Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. We don't have our military doing Operation Phython Dance or Crocodile Tears like they do to you people here even though the despotic wannabe racist would love that. We have different municipal police departments in America unlike Nigerian Police Force. It's the job of local police department to deal with their criminal problems not the job of president. Go back to your tribal section and exhibit your ignorance there. I guess your village elders forget to pray for you before you moved to Abuja. No wonder the curse of the village is still with you.

schwarzkopf:
The fools getting concerned about Americans killed, when all indexes proved that young white adult males are the most potent killing machine in the whole land, where was the GOP outrage when kids where murdered in Sandy hook?? The only outrage from the GOP is removing back ground checks on folks buying guns, so as more mentally unstable folks can get gun and go on shooting spree like the hotel dude firing at concert goers.

Keep shining the light of truth to our in house Nazi worshippers.

raumdeuter:
Does it matter if its Detroit, Baltimore, Oakland, New Orleans Atlanta or Chicago? Its human beings, Americans getting killed and its the govt a responsible govts job to worry about it

Do you think the 102 mothers whose kids got shot this July 4 weekend care whether its Fox News or CNN? You really dont give a shiit if Americans are dying in Chicago from crime or dying in Boston from opiods. All you care about is CNN foxnews Trump racist bla blah

That is why Americans are rejecting Democrats everywhere

Obviously you are a newbie in America not to know that elections are cyclical. Keep worshipping the demented old racist who think of your likes like garbage. A racist that was hailing Nazis marching in Charlottesville as good men and calling Black NFL players who are millionaires and multimillionaire due to their God given talents SOB. If he think of them like that guess what he will think of you. Obama just spent 8 years at the helm. It will be a miracle for the racist pig to finish his term.

raumdeuter:
Can you hear yourself? "What business do the president have dealing with crimes in a city". What is the job of a president then? Are the people getting killed from Mexico or from Fiji? Are they not Americans? So whats the business of a president when his citizens get killed? So that is why Obama and the Chicago liberals didnt care about their citizens getting killed. Afterall they are blacks they can die all they want right?

Obviously the Democratic govt of Illinois and Chicago have been unable to fix the issues for over many years and you are asking what does the president have to do with crime in a city

So the mother and families who lose their sons to crime daily should be told that "What business do the president have dealing with crimes in a city"

All you need to do is Google the most crime ridden cities in US and you will find out that Chicago is not even in the top twenty but Faux News and their hate dispensing loudmouths are disparaging Chicago for political reasons. Why don't the Little Hitler named tramp go into every inner cities and flex his muscle about curbing crime. We don't need him here. 38% approval rating for a worthless bigot and that's according to Racist Faux News.

raumdeuter:
No one asked you to feel sorry for them, I am sure the drug users dont even need your sympathy.

The govt is tackling a crisis and we see a difference in the 2 parties, while Clinton and the Democrats preferred to jail blacks for the drugs problem Trump and the GOP preferred to find a solution to a drug problem.

Trump wanted to address the killings of black kids in Chicago and in the inner city you were the same one who cried foul

Most of the affected states are in New England and the east coast which are mainly Blue. How many Southern red states do you see there? But Trump decided to look beyond politics and address a national crisis in a way different from how Clinton did yet you are bringing race into it

What business do the president have dealing with crimes in a city. Supporters of a clownish bigot will go extra length to defend him. My issue is that Clinton was wrong and he was roundly condemned for playing politics with the life of people addicted to drugs. I remember vividly St Reagan that Republicons worship flooding inner cities with cocaine just to fund the Contras in the mid 80s. That's the origin of drug problems in America and he surely paid for all his evil doing towards the end of his life. Keep licking the a*s of a Nazi president and millions if not tens of millions of well meaning Americans will hold the 71 year old demented mo.ron feet to the fire. Meanwhile, I am still waiting for our wager since you were the one who challenged the Liberals here and I am a damn proud Liberal. Don't chicken out now because the umpires are ready to call balls and strikes.

raumdeuter:
Can CLintons and Democrats simply own up to their policies and stop blaming anyone for their policies?

Are you not tired of the identity racial whining everytime? The same Liberals who would cry that Trump is dividing America are the first to label something black problems white problems

When Trump wanted to tackle violence in black community the same Liberals told him to leave them alone, that its racial profiling, when he decides to tackle opioid crisis that you claim affect mainly white communities you said its because he is white?
You now see why no one takes liberals serious? What solution did the past liberal regime offer to any of these crisis killing Americans. Obama a black man was there for 8yrs what did he do about the black crimes just a few blocks from his home in South Chicago?

While I will rather see it as an American problem, You chose to see it from a racial lens

Now if you want to be pedantic now lets look at the numbers from the CDC website. Of the top states affected. I mean those with over 20% rate of opiod deaths Majority of them are traditionally blue states

Have been to the reddest of Red States and Bluest of Blue States and you find people of different colors there. Your graphic is mute. Will be driving home to Oakpark and go through 290 and you will see White Men in their expensive trucks gets off the Highway in a very sleazy neighborhood that I would be scared to death to go and all they do there is to buy the junk from their "guys". You can parsed your words all you want but the Bottomline is that Clinton was roundly criticized by Civil Rights leaders and well meaning Americans for his punitative stands on drugs then. I remember when Sister Souljah gets involved critiqueing Clinton and so were many well meaning Americans. Now the rooster is home to roost and all of a sudden, opioid crises is now an emergency when whiteys are biting the bullets. Sorry, ain't feel sorry for them and my only brother is married to a White Lady. You reap what you sow in life. The likes of drug addicted Rash Slimebaugh with his millions addicted to drugs and our White Nationalist buffoon now declares a National Emergency. Who freaking care if all the dope users od on their job junks.

raumdeuter:
What shameless people these democrats are. So Republicans are to blame for Clintons Crime act?

LMAO. Grown ass men cant even take responsibilities for their actions anymore.

Its on record, Clintons Crime act was what slammed more black people in jail for drug offences. Now to blame Republicans for that is a new low. But nothing is too low for liberals anyway

You were right about Clinton crime acts throwing more people in jail but the same Clinton was roundly criticized by Civil Rights leader then for succumbing to the likes of Speaker Gingrich because he was trying to win reelection. What I am telling you is that the drug problems in America predates Clinton and when Tricky Dick and Reagan later was flooding inner cities with Cocaine killing Blacks and Hispanics, no one declared an health emergency. All of a sudden, White Americans are becoming junkies in their Surbuban homes and all of a sudden, a National Health Emergency was declared. I was here when people hooked on Crack Cocaine were given lengthy jail time because they are mostly poor minorities while our Lasalle St Boys doing Powder Cocaine were being given lenient sentences and being sent to drug rehabilitations. That's the difference. I don't do drugs and fortunately for me non of my siblings or extended family members do and I have no sympathy for anyone that's putting some poison in his or her system.

The giant of Africa will reconstruct it in one day after the Thieflicians steal the money for the rebuilding. What a great country.