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Jayceon:
WAIT!!! You got all these knowledge from SECRET HISTORY OF THE WORLD by Jonathan Black??

NO. Am even yet to read the book...

sukkot:
you have to understand that the iraq region in ancient times fit the model of the conceptual babylon. however it wasnt called babylon. babylon is a concept name

This is the result of believing everything you read. Sorry enh. You have the answer to every thing in your head because you have read many books. Keep it up. But trust me, an higher truth is coming to enlighten you. Am done with you here. And thanks for your time. I have other things to do...

sukkot:
reality is that i can call anyone any name i feel they deserve to be called so long as i am being truthful in definition

Good for you most enlightened one on nairaland...

sukkot:
listen, the bible is a book for all generations so everything in it is conceptual including the people and the places. they are concepts which are supposed to apply to all generations.

All generations my foot...

sukkot:
no its not. like i said the JESUS character called a woman a dog

Can you please leave what the "character" Jesus said and face reality. Since you have problem accepting His existence..

sukkot:
first of all you need to understand the etymology of babylon. babylon represents a destroyed city that is full of sin. there are many babylons. america today is babylon. babylon is a conceptual city that represents anywhere with spiritually dead people. bible is symbolic and allegorical and presents conceptual scenarios that apply to all worlds. nothing new under the sun

Babylon became a conceptual city that represent lust and vanity after the first Babylon fell gentleman. The ruins of ancient Babylon is somewhere in Iraq. Research that...

sukkot:
ok step off nigga. its obvious you are a dullard. let me continue the debate with more enlightened beings than yourself.

Is calling someone you are in a debate with "a dullard" not abusive

sukkot:
wtf are you talking about ? mythologies dont have personalities behind them. and like i told you, the name JESUS was created 500 years ago. its an adaptation of the greek god ZEUS and before the letter J was created it was called IESOUS in earlier bibles. am telling you these are all titles for powerful men ( gods ). there is no man nameD yahweh or yashua or yahoshua or YHWH etc etc. these are titles for illuminated beings. They are pointing to ILLUMINATED beings

You are really shooting yourself in the foot. Which illuminated beings? This man that was talked about in the Bible as Jesus Christ was an illuminated being also. I am not talking about the name Jesus, I am talking about the illuminated being that existed during the reign of Pontious pilate. The one who the Christians refer to as their saviour. As much as you don't understand, the roman Catholic church has done everything possible to hide His true identity. Turning Him into a mystical allegory and His true teachings and way of life buried under false stories presented in the Bible just to claim the highest religious order. His suppose death on the cross to take away the sins of the world being the height of the deceit..

sukkot:
chizayin pemem <<<< i am a destroyed elected man of God suffering in hell

JUST MADE THAT UP. THATS HEBREW

For your mind abi?

sukkot:
he didnt exist but its an allegorical story. and the fact they say this enlightened being in the allegory called a woman a dog tells you just because you are enlightened does not mean you cant make judgements on people

i provided an earlier verse saying illuminated beings can make judgements on people

Allegorical stories on fictional beings. What about the story of Babylon? Was that allegory also? Because the ruins of ancient Babylon as been discovered...

sukkot:
not if you understand greek and hebrew. which i do. and i can tell you to disregard all bibles except the KJV. the KJV is perfect. the translation is exact with the greek and hebrew

Please write a sentence in greek. Then hebrew. And translate same, since you understand them both...

sukkot:
dummy just means an unenlightened person. you need to understand the etymology of words my brother. in the bible the JESUS character called a woman a dog. dog is another way of saying someone is unenlightened. was he not enlightened when he called the woman a dog ?

And why are you citing the Jesus you did not believe existed?

sukkot:
you are just making up your own bible now. IN THE REAL BIBLE IT USES THE WORD EVIL NOT DIVINE JUDGEMENT

isaiah 45 vs 7 I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
amos 3 vs 6 shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Remember the english Bible you read was translated, and many words lost their original meanings during this translation?

sukkot:
well then i guess going by your assertion then GOD is an evil deity ? seeing as he says he created and does evil. so is he an evil GOD ? am waiting for this answer lol

isaiah 45 vs 7 I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
amos 3 vs 6 shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

or is he doing righteous evil ? cuz he says he does evil

Going by which assertion? Stop imagining answers or conclusions from me. Evil is a natural phenomenon that accumulates after a period of indulging in acts that attracts it, or a check and balance of ones conviction about the truth of life. Example is the allegory of Job...

sukkot:
wtf is planet evolution ? stop talking rubbish. OK educate us, what exactly is planet evolution. we are waiting dummy. define it. am waiting ooo.

And with your enlightenment, you still refer to someone as dummy Am just saying...

sukkot:
see you are making up the story as i uncover all the lies. you said jesus and now you say Yeshua ? lmaooo. even Yeshua is a title that is sometimes written as Yehoshua

I told you Jesus was a myth created by the roman Catholic church. The real personality behind the myth was mystified so the truth He thought will be kept secret. The Bible is very vague about this great man. And you keep saying "titles", aren't titles used on people? Are this titles not used to describe or identify some certain classes of people. Because you said they are all titles. Who are these titles referring to or pointing at

sukkot:
EXAMPLE. you steal, they catch you and beat you. beating someone is evil. beating someone for no reason at all is evil. beating a thief whom you caught is righteous evil. gerrit ?

It is punishment. Nothing like righteous evil...

sukkot:
brother, you need to understand that the letter J was only created 500 years ago. the name Jesus was created in the council of nicea when the bible was compiled in 1611 right around the time the letter J was invented. so if the letter J is recent then its obvious his name was not JESUS when he was supposedly around 2000 years ago. are you starting to see the light ? JESUS is a modern name created 500 years ago in the council of nicea when the bible was compiled and written.

and in that vein, the name Joseph is a new creation.

in earlier bibles the name IESOUS was used because J was only created 500 years ago. telling you these are titles not names. and they are adaptations of ZEUS

But created for a personality that existed. He was Yeshua not Joseph. My bad. His name was Yeshua, and He did existed...

sukkot:
of course it means punishment and not unprovoked wrongdoing but its evil nevertheless. but its righteous evil. if a man kills someone and they kill him back, those who killed him back are doing evil too but its righteous evil. yeah GOD does righteous evil

Which one is righteous evil again? How can righteousness be evil, and evil be righteous? Stop this your word play jare...

sukkot:
exactly, and as you said the man was referred to as jESUS THE NAZARENE which tells you it is a title and not a mans name. and these men are called ASCENDED MASTERS. They are also called the 144 thousand. they are also called angels. point being these are all titles for ILLUMINATED SOULS. In subsequent reincarnation they were called knights templar

Jesus the Nazarene wasn't a title. Christ is. Thats why He was called Jesus Christ. The Christ is the title, while is name was Joseph which was also Jesus in other languages. The three wise men in the nativity story are actually Magis. Meaning the wise ones. They were the ones who trained the boy Joseph from age 12 to 30. This is the reason this period of His life was omitted in the Bible. He was been spiritually prepared. And mind you, His birth was already expected by the Nazarenes. He was the Christ that was expected at that time. To say He never existed shows you are still behind in the knowlegde of Christ. Why do you think even the muslims agree that He existed and was indeed a prophet?

sukkot:
nah bro, JESUS and CHRIST are titles not names of a man, and under that title CHRIST are many men. there are many christs.

1 corinthians 15 vs 23 Christ the firstfruits <<< CHRIST ARE THE FIRSTFRUITS. NOTICE HOW IT IS IN PLURAL ? THIS IS IN THE BIBLE. THERE ARE MANY CHRISTS. CHRIST IS JUST THE TITLE LIKE A CEO IS A TITLE AND THERE ARE MANY CEOS ETC

Christ is a spiritual attainment. A place of spiritual bliss and oneness with the cosmos. This I know. But there once lived a certain Jew whose birth was a mystery. He was a Nazarene, and fought against the government and religious establishment of His days. He never refered to Himself as a son of God or saviour. But the roman Catholic church created a myth out of reality to gain supremacy in Religion after killing mostly His disciples and acquire all spiritual doctrines thought by this great man from them. The roman Catholic church is responsible for hiding the truth about the man refered to as Jesus the Nazarene..

sukkot:
and all those stories are allegories. There was no human being called JESUS CHRIST. neither was there a snake talking to a woman, neither did a whale eat a man and regurgitate him after 3 days, neither did a man put the whole world in a boat for 40 days after the world flooded, and neither did hungry lions choose not to eat a man in a den of lion. the bible is a story of parables, allegories and symbolism. those are not actual stories. they are allegories

According to history (not Biblical) the man Jesus really did existed. He was largely mis-represented in the Bible. For one, he never died on the cross even though He was crucified. I wish you could get this illuminated book "The mystical life of Jesus" to help your ignorance. And hey, i dont buy the story of the serpent and flood too...

sukkot:
isaiah 8 vs 20 if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
<<< IF YOU ARE NOT GOING BY THE GOOD BOOK AKA THE BIBLE THEN ITS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN YOU. YOU ARE IN DARKNESS BRO LMAO. YOU HATE THE BIBLE. YOU HATE THE WORD OF GOD. YOU HATE GOD

And what makes you think I was refering to the Bible? I said books man! The Bible is and will always remain my life inspiration. Brah, you are too quick to conclude n judge. Na wa for you ooo...

sukkot:
lol nah brah i am very humble. we are just having a discourse so things present themselves differently when typed than when spoken

For your mind!!

sukkot:
intelligent sounding mumbo jumbo. souls are cut short not by being brutally murdered. yes you can be an asset of the LORD whose time is not yet to be activated in this reincarnation and he will take you away early but in a peaceful way. The innocent souls are not brutally murdered and raped and burnt.

Almost all the apostles were brutally murdered mind you. WHY Because of the evil way of life. Most of them were gruesomely murdered because they stood for the truth. Christ was brutally murdered too remember? According to the Bible you are reading from...

sukkot:
Thats very un-intelligent of you. before you use a word you should know what it means.

lmao I have read many books.

Thank you mighty judge. You are the intelligent one. Living your life by the books...

sukkot:
thats an oxymoron because you need people like me to guide the walking dead like you

Pls stop this spiritual haughtiness...

sukkot:
you are very unenlightened.

1 corinthians 2 vs 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things << A SPIRITUAL MAN, MEANING AN ILLUMINATED SOUL, JUDGES ALL THINGS. IF YOU ARE SPIRITUAL YOU HAVE THE WISDOM TO JUDGE ALL THINGS AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO

I see your high level of spirituality through your high level of ignorance. If you care to know, some souls are cut short because of the evil man does against man. Thats why we have re-incarnation. God is a merciful one. He gives each soul the chance to purge itself of iniquity. The evil in this world competes with this plan of God. Hence souls are given the chance to come and do it better. Not to come and be brutally murdered. She will be re-incarnated again to have the opportunity to cleanse her soul. Spirituality brings love, peace and harmony. All these are lacking in your very first comment...

sukkot:


i am not a saint

etymologically speaking SAINT means a dead angel. a dead messenger. so ermmm no i am not a saint

And I am not speaking etymologically. I am speaking in common terms we ascribe to saints. I see you have read many books! Weldone Sir!!!

sukkot:
a little baby is just a baby in flesh. the spirit in that baby is as old as everybody else on earth. you are not your flesh. your flesh is simply a vehicle for your spirit. your spirit will receive punishment anytime you are in a body on earth. it matters not if you are 1 year old in flesh or 70 years old in flesh

Keep talking trash because of some shallow knowledge you think you have. An illuminated soul will never say what you are saying. Of course i know about Karma and souls indistructable nature. But this does not give me the right to pronounce judgement on anyone. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!!!

freethesheeple:
they are now animal but when she was busy slaying,eating and making away with men money,she was smart..
May same fate befall u and all slay queen that are heartless..
If u dont like a man,dont eat his money..simple...
Attack me,its allowed,its called salying....lol

What a mumuish comment from a heartless soul. Am sure you are capable of doing this!!

freethesheeple:
hahahahahhahaaha..are u from south africa?

Well that being said,slay queens needs to be killed..U eat my money,no sex and u bolt away..No way!!!

And what about you paying a slay queen for sex? Are you not a partner in crime? So you deserve to die too. Foolish comment...