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Empiree:“The disbelievers pretend that they will never be resurrected (for the Account). Say (O Muhammad): Yes! By my Lord, you will certainly be resurrected, then you will be informed of (and recompensed for) what you did; and that is easy for Allaah” [al-Taghaabun 64:7] |
tintingz: Did Allah for example foreknow and decree(before I was born) I will eat pizza and vomit on 6th of August 2018?Yes, if that's what you want to know. The issue of Destiny is not something any random brain could comprehend, it takes a lot of study. Yes, infact the more I was studying Islam with open mind the more I started loosing faith.I doubt if you truly studied Islam, why? Because you wouldn't have left Islam if you understand the basic fundamental of Islam, At-Tawheed, had it been you understand it, you wouldn't have lost faith. Allah is Al-Khaaliq, Ar-Razzaaq, Al-Mudabbir. |
Abeg show person the real protesters, I can only see the journalists. ![]() |
tintingz:I guessed you didn't read the post very well, or you couldn't comprehend it very well, due to what you already have in mind Shaykh Ibn Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Just as Allaah is the One Who created them – meaning people – He has also created that by means of which they act, namely their abilities and will, then they do various actions of obedience and sin, by the abilities and will which Allaah has created. (al-Durrah al-Bahiyyah Sharh al-Qaseedah al-Taa’iyyah, p. 18).He Allah created our abilities and wiil, and you are left with what you do with it, he gave us hand, it's left to you what you do with it,Allah made it possible for you to type with your hands, he wasn't the one that typed. Note the difference. Saying: Freewill and predestination cannot work together, it's very absurd to think both work together, there's no how you try to fine-print it, there will always be flaws!Can I ask a question, while you were a Muslim, did you studied about Islam, to what length? |
tintingz:And why do you have to quote from what you don't believe in, is your own reasoning storage bank emptied? Just wondering ni ooo |
AbdulQaadir:Belief in al-qadar (the Divine decree) is the sixth pillar of faith, and no one’s faith is complete without it. In Saheeh Muslim ( it is narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) heard that some people were denying al-qadar. He said: “If I meet these people I will tell them that I have nothing to do with them and they have nothing to do with me. By the One by Whom ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar swore, if one of them had gold equivalent to Mount Uhud and he spent it, Allaah would not accept it from him unless he believed in al-qadar.” You should also note that belief in al-qadar is not valid unless you believe in the four aspects of al-qadar, which are as follows: 1 – Belief that Allaah knows all things, in general terms and in detail, from eternity to eternity. Not a single atom is unknown to Him in the heavens or on earth. 2 – Belief that Allaah has decreed all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz, fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth. 3 – Belief that the will of Allaah is irresistable and His decree is comprehensive, so nothing happens in this universe, good or bad, but by His will. 4 – Belief that all that exists was created by Allaah. He is the Creator of all beings and the Creator of their attributes and actions, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Such is Allaah, your Lord! Laa Ilaaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Creator of all things” [al-An’aam 6:102] Correct belief in al-qadar also involves believing in the following: That the individual has free will by means of which he acts, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “To whomsoever among you who wills to walk straight” [al-Takweer 81:28] “Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope” [al-Baqarah 2:286] That a person’s will and ability do not operate outside the will and decree of Allaah, Who is the One Who has given him that ability and made him able to distinguish (between good and evil) and make his choice, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “And you cannot will unless (it be) that Allaah wills the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)” [al-Takweer 81:29] That al-qadar is Allaah’s plan for His creation. What He has shown us of it, we know and believe in, and what He has hidden from us, we accept and believe in. We do not dispute with Allaah concerning His actions and rulings with our limited minds and comprehension, rather we believe in Allaah’s complete justice and wisdom, and that He is not to be asked about what He does, may He be glorified and praised. This is a summary of the belief of the first generations concerning this important topic. We will discuss some of this in more detail below, asking Allaah to help us to say the right thing: 1 – The meaning of al-qada’ wa’l-qadar in Arabic: The word qada’ means perfection and completion, and the word qadar means evaluating and planning. 2 – Definition of al-qada’ wa’l-qadar in Islamic terminology: Qadar means Allaah’s decree of all things from eternity, and His knowledge that they will come to pass at the times that are known to Him and in the specific manner that He has decreed and willed. They will happen the way they are meant to and the way they are created. 3 – Is there a difference between al-qada’ and al-qadar? Some of the scholars said that there was a difference between them, but perhaps the most correct view is that there is no difference in meaning between al-qada’ and al-qadar, and that each of them points to the meaning of the other. There is no clear evidence in the Qur’aan or Sunnah to indicate that there is a difference between them. The scholars are agreed that the one may be applied to the other, but it should be noted that the word qadar is most usually used in the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, which indicates that we must believe in this pillar. And Allaah knows best. 4 – The status of belief in al-qadar in Islam: Belief in al-qadar is one of the six pillars of faith which were mentioned in the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when Jibreel (peace be upon him) asked him about faith (eemaan). He said: “(It is) to believe in Allaah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in the Divine will and decree (al-qadar) both good and bad.” Narrated by Muslim, 8. Al-qadar is also mentioned in the Qur’aan, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, We have created all things with Qadar (Divine Preordainments of all things before their creation as written in the Book of Decrees Al-Lawh Al-Mahfooz)” [al-Qamar 54:49] “And the Command of Allaah is a decree determined [qadran maqdooran]” [al-Ahzaab 33:38] 5 – Aspects of belief in al-qadar: Note, may Allaah help you to do that which pleases Him, that belief in al-qadar cannot be complete until you believe in the following four aspects of this doctrine: (a) Knowledge: this is the belief that the knowledge of Allaah encompasses all things and not a single atom in the heavens or on earth falls outside of His knowledge. Allaah knew all of His creation before He created them. He knew what they would do by means of His ancient and eternal knowledge. There is a great deal of evidence that points to this such as the verses in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “He is Allaah, beside Whom Laa ilaaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the All-Knower of the unseen and the seen. He is the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful” [al-Hashr 59:22] “and that Allaah surrounds all things in (His) Knowledge” [al-Talaaq 65:12] (b) Writing: this is the belief that Allaah has written the decrees concerning all created beings in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz. The evidence for that is the verse in which He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Know you not that Allaah knows all that is in the heaven and on the earth? Verily, it is (all) in the Book (al-Lawh al-Mahfooz). Verily, that is easy for Allaah” [al-Hajj 22:70]And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah wrote the decrees concerning all created beings fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth.” Narrated by Muslim, 2653. (c) Will: this is the belief that everything that happens in this universe happens by the will of Allaah. Whatever Allaah wills happens and whatever He does not will does not happen. Nothing exists outside of His will. The evidence for that is in the verses where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And never say of anything, ‘I shall do such and such thing tomorrow.’ 24. Except (with the saying), ‘If Allaah wills!’” [al-Kahf 18:23, 24] “And you cannot will unless (it be) that Allaah wills the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)” [al-Takweer 81:29] (d) Creation: this is the belief that Allaah is the Creator of all things, including people’s actions. Nothing happens in this universe but He is its Creator, because He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Allaah is the Creator of all things” [al-Zumar 39:62] “While Allaah has created you and what you make” [al-Saaffaat 37:96] And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has made every doer and what he does.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari in Khalq Af’aal al-‘Ibaad (25) and by Ibn Abi ‘Aasim in al-Sunnah (257 and 358); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Saheehah, 1637. Shaykh Ibn Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Just as Allaah is the One Who created them – meaning people – He has also created that by means of which they act, namely their abilities and will, then they do various actions of obedience and sin, by the abilities and will which Allaah has created. (al-Durrah al-Bahiyyah Sharh al-Qaseedah al-Taa’iyyah, p. 18). Warning against arguing about issues of al-qadar on the basis of (human) reasoning: Belief in al-qadar is the real test of the extent of a person’s belief in Allaah. It is the true test of how much a person really knows about his Lord and what results from this knowledge of certain and sincere faith in Allaah, and His attributes of majesty and perfection. That is because al-qadar raises many questions for the one who gives free rein to his reasoning to try to fully comprehend it. There have been many disputes concerning the issue of al-qadar and many people have engaged in debates and misinterpreted the verses of the Qur’aan that mention it. Indeed, the enemies of Islam in all eras have provoked confusion in the Muslims’ beliefs by discussing the issue of al-qadar and stirring up doubts about it. So no one can have true and certain faith except the one who knows Allaah by His beautiful names and sublime attributes, submitting to His commands with peace of mind and trusting in his Lord. In that case no doubts or specious arguments can find a way into his heart. Undoubtedly this is the greatest proof that belief in al-qadar is more important than belief in the other pillars of faith, and that the human mind cannot independently come to understand al-qadar, because al-qadar is one of the mysteries of Allaah in His creation; whatever Allaah has disclosed to us in His Book or on the lips of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) we know, accept and believe in, and whatever our Lord has not told us, we believe in and we believe in His perfect justice and wisdom, and that He is not to be questioned about what He does, but they will be questioned. And Allaah knows best. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon His slave and Prophet Muhammad and upon his family and companions. See: A’laam al-Sunnah al-Manshoorah, 147; al-Qada’ wa’l-Qadar fi Daw’ il-Kitaab wa’l-Sunnah by Shaykh Dr. ‘Abd al-Rahmaan al-Mahmoud; al-Eemaan bi’l-Qada’ wa’l-Qadar by Shaykh Muhammad al-Hamd. |
tintingz:So you could quote from the God you didn't believed exist? Now I know why you left Islam... |
uthlaw:There are different stages of destiny, which I would not be able to explain right now due to some reasons from my side, but I promise to get back to you on this. In sha Allah |
tintingz:I propose you accept Islam again. That's my best wish today. |
tintingz:But you are no longer a Muslim, that's the point. In Islam any thought that goes against the Rules and Laws of Allah & His Messenger would be discarded even if it's thousands in number, that's it. If Allah had said there isn't Paradise & Hell, why would I be insisting on their existence, but the greatest of all has declared their existence, why would I try to assume his statement, his words, his warnings, his glad tidings are just illusions. I'hdina SirooTol Mustaqeem |
tintingz:You want me to be a free thinker like you, but you don't want to reason like I do(from the words of the CREATOR), is that even just. “Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) till you follow their religion. Say: ‘Verily, the Guidance of Allaah (i.e. Islamic Monotheism) that is the (only) Guidance.’ And if you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) were to follow their (Jews and Christians) desires after what you have received of Knowledge (i.e. the Qur’aan), then you would have against Allaah neither any Wali (protector or guardian) nor any helper” [al-Baqarah 2:120] “Many of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) wish that if they could turn you away as disbelievers after you have believed, out of envy from their ownselves, even after the truth (that Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم is Allaah’s Messenger) has become manifest unto them. But forgive and overlook, till Allaah brings His Command. Verily, Allaah is Able to do all things” [al-Baqarah 2:109]. |
tintingz:Can you please give me a brief explanation on what you mean by thinking out of the box |
tintingz:This is what differentiate we Muslims, we quote not from our own reasoning but from the sayings of the most HIGH, the one who created all the creations, if you could reject HIS speech, should you accept human reasoning or my reasoning? Between is sayings and yours which should I hold on to? His obviously. I hope we stop this thread here. |
tintingz:Ohhh, show it to me |
tintingz:Then why do you have to question my believe that my God will punish the unbelievers? |
tintingz:The same way a University won't give matric no to someone not admitted is the same way Allah will not give Jannah to someone who disbelieve in him. The same way school has rules and regulations, Allah also has rules and regulations. The same way you can't claim the studentship of an institution you aren't admitted is the same way you can't claim the mercy of Allah if you aren't admitted by HIM (total submission to him)... |
tintingz:Doing good and showing kindness has its own reward in this life, Imagine a person who's so brilliant but failed jamb/post-jamb exams, then enters into one of the universities without been admitted, studied in the same class with the admitted students for five years, got As in all the exams he did, but will he be awarded a degree just because he performed well? No, he isn't a bonafide student, like wise in Islam, we call something PILLARS OF ISLAM, yes pillars that allows other things to be mount on. And the first pillar of faith is to testify that there is no god except ALLAH, and Muhammad is His messenger, this is the foundation, if there's no foundation, then what are we talking about? No matter of the architecture of the house may look like, it all starts with the foundation. If you don't have the foundation, what do you want to mount on. It's like saying I saw a house with three rooms, 5 pillars, 2 restrooms, 2 kitchen and the house has a roof, but doesn't have a foundation. Was it built on the sky? Ponder on these two verses: (Say: "Shall we inform you of the greatest losers? They are those whose endeavors go to waste while they suppose they do good deeds in worldly life. Such are those who reject the ayahs of their Lord and the meeting [the Resurrection, Reckoning, punishment and reward] with Him and whose deeds, therefore, go to waste. We will not set up any balances for them on the Day of Resurrection [We will not weigh their good and evil deeds because their deeds have gone to waste. They have nothing worthy to be weighed]." [Al-Kahf 103-105](The good deeds of disbelievers are like a mirage seen in vast deserts. A thirsty person thinks from a distance that it is water. But when he comes up to it, he cannot find what he expects.) [An-Nur 39] |
tintingz:Who defines kindness and being good? Good-Kafir? Thats like saying cold-hot water... I drop my pen here |
tintingz:Thanks for giving your reply in paragraphs, I would also take my time to analyze them and give each befitting answers. Firstly, you said and I quote I don't believe in eternal purnishment or enjoyment. No one knows what will happen after we die, we just read superstitions about it.I checked your profile earlier, then I realized I am also communicating with a Muslim, If I am not mistaken, *"I believe that there is no god/God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet."* is what you used as your status, this statement is establishing the fact that you believe in Allah as the only God and Muhammad is His Messenger, that is no body is authorized to say this is lawful and unlawful except Allah through His beloved Messenger, if this is true. This same God mentioned in the Qur'an in affirmation of Hellfire: "Throw, throw into Hell every contumacious Rejecter (of Allah)! - Who forbade what was good, transgressed all bounds, cast doubts and suspicion; who set up another god beside Allah: throw him into a severe penalty.' His companion will say: 'Our Lord! I did not make him transgress, but was (himself) far astray.' He will say: 'Dispute not with each other in My Presence: I had already in advance sent you Warning. The Word changes not before Me, and I do not the least injustice to My Servants" (50:24-29).And regarding the affirmation of the Heaven, Allah says: Then, reflect on a contrasting scene from the Heaven: "And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous - no more a thing distant. (A voice will sayI just brought one evidence for each so as not to lengthen this post, I am sure these evidence are enough unless if you want to prove to me that the words of my Creator is a lie, and I swear by the one who has the total control of my Life that the words of my Creator is haqq. Secondly, you asked that when Allah knows everything, why does he test us? Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And I (Allaah) created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone)” [al-Dhaariyaat 51:56]. Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: i.e., I have only created them so that I might command them to worship Me, not because I am in need of them. ‘Ali ibn Abi Talhah said, narrating from Ibn ‘Abbaas: “except that they should worship Me (Alone)” means: except that they should affirm their servitude to Me, willingly or unwillingly. This was the view favoured by Ibn Jareer. Tafseer Ibn Katheer (4/239). I know you confused about what is wanted from the slaves of Allaah, which is adhering to His religion which He has chosen for them, and what is wanted for them, which is rewarding the obedient and punishing the disobedient. This is part of Allaah’s decree which will never be altered or changed. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: As for the truth which is the purpose for which He created them – i.e., the heavens and the earth and everything in between them – it is a twofold aim: what is wanted from His slaves and what is wanted for them. What He wants from us: is that they should know Allaah and the attributes of His perfection, may He be glorified and exalted, and they should worship Him alone and not associate anything with Him, so He alone will be their God, the One Whom they worship and obey and love. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “It is Allaah Who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like thereof (i.e. seven). His Command descends between them (heavens and earth), that you may know that Allaah has power over all things, and that Allaah surrounds all things in (His) Knowledge”He told us that he created the universe so that His slaves might know the perfection of His power, the all-encompassing nature of His knowledge, which requires knowing Him and His names and attributes, and affirming His oneness. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And I (Allaah) created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone)” [al-Dhaariyaat 51:56]. This purpose is what is wanted from His slaves, which is that they should know their Lord and worship Him alone. As for what is wanted for them, it is recompense on the basis of justice and divine grace, reward and punishment. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And to Allaah belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth, that He may requite those who do evil with that which they have done (i.e. punish them in Hell), and reward those who do good, with what is best (i.e. Paradise)” [al-Najm 5 :31] “Verily, the Hour is coming __ and I am almost hiding it __that every person may be rewarded for that which he strives” [Ta-Ha 20:15] “In order that He may make manifest to them the truth of that wherein they differ, and that those who disbelieved (in Resurrection, and in the Oneness of Allaah) may know that they were liars” [al-Nahl 16:39] “Surely, your Lord is Allaah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His Leave. That is Allaah, your Lord; so worship Him (Alone). Then, will you not remember? 4. To Him is the return of all of you. The Promise of Allaah is true. It is He Who begins the creation and then will repeat it, that He may reward with justice those who believed and did deeds of righteousness. But those who disbelieved will have a drink of boiling fluids and painful torment because they used to disbelieve” [Yoonus 10:3, 4]. Badaa’i’ al-Fawaa’id (4/971). I hope this clarifies your doubts, Thanks for your time. |
tintingz:There is a question I would like you to answer, of course I could see from your comment that you believe there is something called eternal punishment, have you ever thought of some that would be provided eternal enjoyment after death? Why would some be in enjoyment while some would be serving severe punishment when they both lived on this same earth? The answer is not far fetched, which I will also use an higher learning institution and parts of your statement. 1. In School, there are diff kinds of grade Distinction, Upper Class, Lower Class, pass and fail, name it, which serve as the sows/classify students based on his/her performance, likewise in Islam, there are levels of enjoyment as the Prophet [Peace be upon Him] said: Verily, Paradise has one hundred levels and between each level is a distance like the distance between the earth and the sky.” [Al-Bukhari in as-Sahih, Kitab al-Jihad, Bab Darajat al-Mujahidin fi Sabilillah, Fath al-Bari, 6/11] Also, for a student who doesn't come to class nor read his books, disrespects the school authorities, cheats in the examination hall, this kind of student would be punish, likewise those who disbelieve in Allah and those who commits unforgivable crimes/sins would also be punished. Will you now blame the school for the failure of these students, NO you would rather say they earned those grades based on their performance. The same way we say in Islam that we are responsible for what we earn, who made the food I ate this mrn? the answer could be the CHEF, MY MOM e.tc would you say Allah cooked for you? NO, Allah provides, while we are responsible for how we use his provisions. This is a choice we are left to make individually, do I want to be in paradise or hell, the manual to both is on the earth, the choice is yours and mine, the I choose decides my final destination. Allah says: Whatever disaster strikes you is for what your hands have earned, yet He pardons much. Surat Ash-Shura 42:30 And also I think I should clarify this, being a believer doesn't mean we won't be tested by the ONE we rely on, that's what differentiate we MUSLIMS, in having faith in HIM is that I WOULD BARE WITH WHATEVER YOU TESTED ME WITH, and also I would be praying to HIM not to test me with what would be beyond my endurance and patience. The evidence for this is where he said in the Qur'an. Do people think that they will be left to say we believe, and they will not be tried? Surat Al-Ankabut 29:2 Therefore, the correct course of action is not to blame others for the trials decreed by Allah, but rather to respond to trials with humility. We must understand that trials are sent to test our faith and bring us back to the straight path, whereas Satan tempts us to react to trials with arrogance. Allah said: فَلَوْلَا إِذْ جَاءَهُم بَأْسُنَا تَضَرَّعُوا وَلَٰكِن قَسَتْ قُلُوبُهُمْ وَزَيَّنَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ Then why, when Our punishment came to them, did they not humble themselves? But their hearts became hardened, and Satan made attractive to them that which they were doing. Surat Al-An’am 6:43 Blaming others for our misfortune is merely a way to avoid personal responsibility and is Satan’s tool for obscuring the true solution. Rather, Allah will only improve our situation when we turn inward, critically examine ourselves, and purify our hearts and communities from spiritual diseases. Allah said: إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُغَيِّرُ مَا بِقَوْمٍ حَتَّىٰ يُغَيِّرُوا مَا بِأَنفُسِهِمْ Verily, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. Surat Ar-Ra’d 13:11 There is much to lament for the situation of Muslims in many parts of the world, but blaming external factors is a dangerous distraction. Focusing too much on worldly causes while ignoring spiritual causes will prevent us from seeing the truth. The only way we can lift ourselves out of hardship is to lower ourselves before Allah, to repent to Him with humility and sincerity, to acknowledge our sins, and to improve our inward and outward moral behavior. |
tintingz:This is a question that I think we all already know the answer, you wonder why a professor in mathematics who has written all kind of textbooks on mathematics still decide to give test/exam to his students in the class. What does this professor wants to gain in testing is students? Will it increase him in knowledge? If he is a professor, why does he has to test his students? Have you thought about this before? The answer is simple, if there is no test or exam, will the students read? will the students come to class? Will they obey the rules and regulations of the school? Will he know the serious from the non-serious? I hope I answered your question |
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it is narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) heard that some people were denying al-qadar. He said: “If I meet these people I will tell them that I have nothing to do with them and they have nothing to do with me. By the One by Whom ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar swore, if one of them had gold equivalent to Mount Uhud and he spent it, Allaah would not accept it from him unless he believed in al-qadar.”
[Al-Kahf 103-105]
'This is what was promised for you - for everyone who turned (to Allah) in sincere repentance, who kept (His Law), who feared (Allah) Most Gracious unseen, and brought a heart turned in devotion (to Him): Enter you therein in Peace and Security; This is a day of Eternal Life!' There will be for them therein all that they wish - and more besides in Our Presence" (50: 31-35).