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Romance / Re: Faithfulness To God Starts From Being Faithful To Your Partner by AdaAda1331: 5:24am On Sep 02, 2016
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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 3:41pm On Jul 30, 2016
DeeMain:
I tread a different route from most here and commend you for your emotional intelligence on this thread. You have shown great matuirity over criticisms deserved and undeserved by people that don't know you nor have all the details.

There are some beautiful advice that have been given here. I know you know them. Follow them and jettison the rest.

You are smart and assertive and emotionally intelligent and humble enough to learn but you have weaknesses too like the rest of us. Keep working on overcoming them and becoming a better person. Never let hurtful words by some here get to you. Take charge.

Your decision to quit the relationship now is sound. All your family and friends can't all be wrong and you the smart one.

Focus on your dreams and purpose. Give him enough space. After some years if destiny brings you back and you want to marry him then do so. But if not, you'll find another. Bottomline, giving him space will give you the clarity of mind and the wholeness you need to make better weighty decisions like the choice of a marriage partner.

Best wishes.


You've spoken very well and have summarized alot of the posts on this thread. Thank you.

To answer some of the questions on here...

-No, he's not financially independent. We see this as one of the precipitating factors.

-He's strong willed, not easily influenced by his family. Even before we met, there has been issues because of his decision to keep in contact with his biological Mother.

-I have told him my stance. He obviously doesn't think it's fair because it's stemming from his parents and not his character. He's cried several times and his mother has even cried to my mother to beg her to change her mind.

-My education is not going to my head and I don't think I know it all. In fact, I've commended my guy for knowing and being clear through all of this, and still knowing that he will marry me no matter what because it has left me confused. Seeing that I still don't have a definite stance made me realize that I still need time, this is what I told him and my parents. I'm happy that this whole situation has shown my weaknesses as a person and my weaknesses in the relationship. I'm happy for the growth that'll take place after this is all said and done.

-I probably shouldn't have used the term relationship because I've been speaking to potential suitors all this time. My "eggs" are not in one basket. I've spoken to several different men that have mentioned marriage and proposed. However, nothing has clicked for me. I know I have a lot of time (kinda) and I know better will come.

-I agree with some of you that mentioned his family wants him to contribute to them first. I didn't see that until you all mentioned it. It makes a lot of sense and I've told him to take that into account before he decides to come for me again, if that's his wish.

Again, I'm very pleased with the amount of responses so far. I appreciate you all giving me advice like you would a sister or daughter. I've learnt from you all and I'll keep these messages as a written reminder to give me strength through all of this. I strongly believe God speaks through people so your words are not going unnoticed.

Thank you all very much.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 6:01pm On Jul 29, 2016
crackhaus:

You can't do anything to improve whatever relationship he has with his family, especially now that they don't even like you - it will only get worse once you force yourself on them...but if for some inexplicable reason your bf is ready to go against them on your behalf, then y'all can sing your Kumbaya as you both walk down the aisle.

Just remember that there will be a lot of I told you so coming from both his family and yours if the going gets tough.



*Cough*

*Clears throat*

*Cough* undecidedundecided

I hear read you Princess, love definitely conquers all.



Let me guess, his parents are wise ONLY when their opinion makes you giddy. cheesy

On the occasion of them not wanting you to become a part of their family, their wisdom in the matter becomes inconclusive because you don't agree with it. gringrin



Me? Conclude? grin

Girl have you been reading your comments about his family so far, you coming off as someone that doesn't even want to dobalé.

If there has been long-standing issues in that family, I wonder what you're even still looking for inside there.
However like I said before, if your man is ready to ride that storm with you, then Kumbaya... cool



There's a fire on the mountain.



Not to burst your bubble, but I think he'll get over you eventually should you decide to scram. grin


Thank you for your response. I don't expect you to be able to understand from brief messages online and be able to give sound advice, but I do appreciate you giving your time to respond.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 5:52pm On Jul 29, 2016
Onegai:


I think you'll be fine. And please don't take the comment about People skills wrongly, almost everyone I know doesn't have it, heck I'm still learning it. That laughter at his comment, that was a reaction. And one day, if you're not in a good mood or having a bad day and he makes another spiteful comment, you will flare up. Because you're human. Trust me, I've been there. And the other party immediately seizes on my reaction and plays it to an attack against me. And later on, it hurt. Because an innocent moment was turned into an opportunity for a goat to be spiteful.

Great people skills means you won't react immediately, not even with laughter. You will go "hmm, okay" in the calmest of voices and continue the conversation. My MiL has mad people skills, I've never seen her truly upset or angry in that she won't react at that possible moment but pass the message along later. Her eyes are always on the end game. The worst thing she has ever said to me, had so little sting in her tone, but I knew she wasn't happy with me. And it is so effortless, it comes off as genuine and sometimes, it only dawns on you a week or month later what she really meant. She knows when to smile, when to be calm, how to be underestimated but still be a juggernaut, when to react, how to always sound sympathetic no matter what, how to pass across a message without getting her emotions and feeling involved and how to code her emotions when she's angry. That is what makes her awesome...and dangerous . grin


This is very good advice. It's something I'll definitely take into account with all my relationships. You've actually given me great advice I know I will practice. If knowing this is the sole reason I felt compelled to write this, it was definitely worth it. I truly appreciate it.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 3:15pm On Jul 29, 2016
Thank you for all of your responses, I honestly appreciate each of them. Your responses are very similar to my mother's, my brother, his mother and other of my family members. Very different and very honest.

Someone above mentioned that I should treat this as a car sale. You're actually on to something. I still see this in a similar way but not totally. In my mind, he's a Lamborghini but that doesn't mean it's the only Lamborghini I'll see.

Alot of you gave constructive criticism that I may be controlling or I should be mature and I don't have people's skills. I understand that as well. I haven't dismissed my opportunity of growth. I know there's still a lot for me to learn. I also understand that its what youve been able to decipher from my short message. Understand though that I'm not affected by his brother calling me names. I actually laughed when I heard it unintentionally. I didnt take it personal because I knew it wasn't coming from a place of constructive criticism but just plain criticism. My parents are the ones in disbelief, that I haven't even done the introduction but his family are already calling me unnecessary names out of spite.

I made the decision last week to end the relationship. I came on here to see if I did it with the right mindset and heart and I know I did now because I have peace. My point of view is to allow things to run its course. I'll focus on my graduating next year as I have been and I've told him to do the same. Nothing stays the same, I know we will both come out of this. I don't know what will end up happening, but I've decided not to focus on that.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 11:18pm On Jul 28, 2016
Richy4:
The thing is that everyone is worried about u entering into that family....and your fear is heightened because of that....which is understandable......

But What if this guy was your soul mate? the one that was meant for u, Are u gonna ignore him or call it off because of what was not his making? He did not asked to be born in a home full of baggage...

You know he is a good guy, if he wasn't, i do not think we will be discussing him...

Honestly the whole ball is in your court either To follow your heart and be a star in in that family/ the voice of reason or act on your own family's fear

You have it exactly right. That's why I'm on this forum. I know you all can't make the decision for me but I'm having second thoughts if this is something I'll immensely regret doing/not doing. I had an idea about his family behavior but it never directly affected me until now that I'm being attacked. I know God wouldn't want me to make a decision out of fear but I'm still on the fence if this is also God's way of telling me to run. I see the fire now before marriage and me saying yes will be me putting my hand in it. I don't know if that's wise.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 9:53pm On Jul 28, 2016
Richy4:
Please I have to ask a question here and do not feel offended because we all are deliberating on the best solution....

<<<<What was it that turn the family off when ever they see you? have you thought about that?

<<<<Do you see yourself as the best thing since sliced bread?
just asking because any one that studied literature in English in high school will know that we were told to read between the lines.....and notice the author's tone and use of words...

I saw briefly in your write up when u mentioned about your value..that they do not know your value....If U have been introduced then u might talk about yourself worth...Don't u think it is too early to be acting like the best thing that happened after christ?

If you really like the guy, maybe your ticket might be a little humility toward the parent...your write up kind of shows that you were the one calling the shots in that relationship. i might be wrong though but sit down and think a little about what your future inlaws like about you or hated about u


Thank you for your response. Again, I mentioned that the only reason that I mentioned my career path is because that's mostly what nigerians look at when it comes to marriage. I thought that would be relatable. I don't call the shots, they don't actually hate me. His brother just called me names because I didn't ask how his move was. If it sounds ridiculous here, it is because that was the sole reason. Thing is my family is not the only one that's worried about this union. All our close family friends, priest, godmother, are all worried about me entering the family, they don't think I should enter the on-going family drama. The reason I put the don't see my worth is because it has been implied by his father with no concrete reason. I have a lot to work on, I know that, I'm not the best but I know I'm not the worst as they point me out to be. I'm still young and I'm open to change. But I DO know that I come from a good family, I'm a child after God's heart and I'm trying my best to prepare a good future for my future children.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 8:52pm On Jul 28, 2016
His family has been known to have issues, before and after the divorce. The support his family has for him is very conditional to what he can do for them. When the marriage topic came up, they were not pleased that he had made up his mind without their approval and that he had a tentative date of when he will be financially independent after graduation.

They did not agree with the tentative date and only see their option of 4 more years of dating as the only viable choice. Because of opposing views, he currently has no support from his family. They are known to take drastic moves to prove their point. He's okay with that and moving forward to graduating. This has nothing to do with me or my character. I know I'm still a work in progress but I do listen to counsel unlike his family that nothing else but their opinions matter. It's their family motto; they said it themselves.

The only reason I even included my career path is because that's what most Nigerians are usually focused on unfortunately to determine your worth. It's a good thing some of of you don't regard that as being the end all be all. Please take this into consideration before replying. I just need to know if I should follow my head or my heart. I know love itself cannot sustain a marriage.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 8:43pm On Jul 28, 2016
thorpido:
If he has shown himself to be someone of exemplary character as you say,I'll say you should give it a chance.
One thing I want you to consider is how much independence he has.Does his family control the decisions he makes?Also,if you marry,are you going to live close to them?

Answer these questions.

He called me selfish and controlling because I called him to settle the long standing problem he's had with his brother and I didn't ask him how he has been doing. I made it my mission to have a relationship with all of his family for the past 5 years, it was a good one, until the guy I'm talking to brought up marriage. They are not happy that they were not the first to know of his intention and I was. Right now, he is starting to be independent. Seeing that he is still in school, financial independence is a struggle. But by God's grace next year, he will be independent. We are not planning to live close. But I want freedom to be able to visit them and vice versa.

Ujoan:
Are you 'difficult and contolling" ? As far as I'm concerned that's the only tangible thing you've mentioned you have against them. Perhaps they are only trying protect their brother. Like you said, Nigerian marriages is not just about the immediate family.
Maybe they are not worshipping the ground you step on because they realise marriage is not a competition of who is more valuable. . . You will face each other at your best and worst and there's noneed going into it with an air of superiority.
If however you feel strongly about them being a thorn in your flesh, I think you need to move on. You can't completely expect a man not to have some sort of influence (no matter how minute) from his family.

No one has ever told me I'm difficult and controlling, I think it's the other way around. He speaks to his mother in the same manner and even says if step mother is more of a mother than his real mother will ever be. I didn't take it personal really because his opinions do not speak to my true nature. I see the influence his family has over him and I do appreciate it because he has rejected the negative ones and accepted the positive ones.

crackhaus:

Seems like someone is already laying the foundation for the only-me-and-my-husband kind of marriage.

This is the mentality that I feel I will have to have to survive in this environment. Its truly not as easy as you think. This is not what I want at all. I'm very family oriented and I wish he had a good relationship with his family just as I have with mine
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Hello Princess, the only people you're worth something to by default is your family and your God...for every other person out there, you will have to earn it.
What have you done to prove yourself to his family?

I don't need to prove myself to anyone. I've loved him and his family and that's all it should be. I don't owe anyone anything.

I'm glad you realize that you just don't marry a man without the involvement of his family.
However, don't you think there's a problem somewhere if all you can see in his family are their negative characteristics?
Tell us one thing you like about his family, JUST ONE.

His parents are wise in some matters. I've appreciated their advise when it was given. They know this because I've told them this.


Your parents in all their wisdom and at least 20years of experience in marriage have given you their counsel.
You have just three choices;
1. Try getting his family to change their opinion about you and see you for the awesome & exemplary person you say you are which shouldn't be too hard if you ask me because character speaks for itself.

[i]It's funny how you've concluded that I haven't done everything I could. There has been long standing family issues in this family, I was just unaware, this is what his mother told me recently. No matter what character you possess, not everyone will see your worth.


2. Forget about what his family thinks, pay no attention to your parents, and please go ahead with the marriage - just remember that you may have succeeded in creating a rift between your man and his family which will ONLY be favorable to you, but NEVER favorable to him in the long run.

I'm not the cause of this new rift, it's just another piled on top of many others.

3. Move on and find love elsewhere.[/i]

This is still very possible, but I do know it'll create a rift between him and his family because he will know that'll be the on[/i]ly reason I say no.

Ujoan:
Are you 'difficult and contolling" ? As far as I'm concerned that's the only tangible thing you've mentioned you have against them. Perhaps they are only trying protect their brother. Like you said, Nigerian marriages is not just about the immediate family.
Maybe they are not worshipping the ground you step on because they realise marriage is not a competition of who is more valuable. . . You will face each other at your best and worst and there's noneed going into it with an air of superiority.
If however you feel strongly about them being a thorn in your flesh, I think you need to move on. You can't completely expect a man not to have some sort of influence (no matter how minute) from his family.

[i]Please read my above responses. If I was difficult and controlling, they would've brought it up when long ago when I had a relationship with them and warned him. The person I'm wouldn't have stayed for so long and I would've heard some sort of constructive criticism in my 22 years of living. This is stemming from the deep rooted family issues that's being transferred to me since the topic of marriage came up.


Thank you to all that have responded so far. I truly appreciate your response.

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Family / Re: Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 8:36pm On Jul 28, 2016
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Family / Should I Marry This Man? by AdaAda1331: 3:47pm On Jul 28, 2016
I've been in a relationship for 5 years with a great man; we met very young and we're still in school but almost about to graduate. We love each other and things would be easier if family wasn't involved.

His parents are currently divorced and his father, step mother and brother are very difficult people. They are uncompromising and closed minded. His brother has called me selfish and controlling even before the introduction has taken place.

I'm currently in my early twenties and I will be graduating as a doctor next year and I'm from a very peaceful home. I have not been wayward during school and I'm a christian. Seeing that his family doesn't see my value is very disappointing to say the least. I expected much more because I know I'm worth much more.

When you marry in the Nigerian community, you don't just marry the person, the whole family is involved. I have strong feelings for this man. He has refused to adopt his families negative characteristics. His values and character is more than any mother, future wife or friend can ask for. I'm lucky to have even known him.

Now, I'm at crossroads. I've prayed to God and I do have peace, but my parents are telling me to disregard that relationship and move on because of his family. Is it worth it? Is family a rate limiting step to choosing a spouse? How involved are family members in during marriage? Should I move on?

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