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bukatyne: dear, i believe u re a muslim from ur posts. please get some facts right: 1. there is nothing or nowhere called a christian nation i.e. where everyone is a christian and is governed by the Bible. 2. God didn't create woman later b'cos they were inferior but b'cos He wanted to illustrate the marriage institution. He was showing that a man n his wife not wives re one that's y when Adam saw Eve, he said 'this is d bone of my bone and the flesh of my flesh...' don't confuse wat pple do to wat God wanted us to do. ve a nice day

davidylan: I asked a very simple question... why are muslims desperate to live in the west rather than Saudi Arabia?
All over the world its the same... Morrocans pour into the Netherlands, Turks rush to live in Germany, Algerians die to cross over to France... Nigerian muslims fast to get into the UK or the US... Pakistanis are dying to live in the UK...

YET the same idiots tell us the West is a cesspool of homosexuality, crime and whores... and that sharia law (you know that divine law muslims say will even cure toothache) is why countries like Saudi Arabia are paradises on earth... but you will never see a thread here on muslims looking for Saudi Visas.

davidylan: I asked a very simple question... why are muslims desperate to live in the west rather than Saudi Arabia?
All over the world its the same... Morrocans pour into the Netherlands, Turks rush to live in Germany, Algerians die to cross over to France... Nigerian muslims fast to get into the UK or the US... Pakistanis are dying to live in the UK...

YET the same idiots tell us the West is a cesspool of homosexuality, crime and whores... and that sharia law (you know that divine law muslims say will even cure toothache) is why countries like Saudi Arabia are paradises on earth... but you will never see a thread here on muslims looking for Saudi Visas.

samkoro: I can't define murder for u cos ur not dead yet.U don't know the pains and agony of being killed because the victims of your Koranic/Jihad where swords and bullets are put through human beings u don't have the power to create,are neither ur flesh nor ur parents/brothers.

U don't know how it feels because right from childhood,uv been programmed to suppress the natural human virtue of knowing evil.

Iv come to realise the intrinsic nature of man.Man could be programmed to eat shit with comfort.
Man could be programmed to kill without guilt.And that is what ur prophet and Koran is doing,U won't see it cos u ar programmed to be spiritualy blind.

Open ur eyes my brother,and see.

davidylan: Now to answer your "questions"...

1. Probably because America's population is about 10 times that of Saudi Arabia? Simple statistics tells us you shld expect a higher crime rate with a much larger pop no?
2. Neither. In America you're facing lifetime in jail...
3. This is a daft and irrelevant line of questioning... the homosexual lifestyle in the western world is only practiced by a tiny minority and is not a reflection of life here.

You still havent answered my question... if the islamic world is so free, has a far reduced crime rate, drug-free and unwelcoming to homosexuals... why are muslim hypocrites like you bothering the US embassy for visas? Why dont you just fly off to Saudi Arabia?

davidylan: So many muslims scurrying to support the Saudi Arabian culture... so many crying about how whores, "ashys" and crime are the hallmark of Europe and America... some even going as far as to extol the virtues of sharia law in curbing crime in islamic countries.

Now i really have no proble with all this...

this is the amusing part though... why arent all these praise-singing muslims clamouring to go live in Saudi Arabia, Iran or Syria? Why are they all struggling desperately for visas to go live in the US and the UK?

samkoro: Do you mean to tell me that the prophet who adviced his followers to hate and kill non moslems so as to enjoy 72 virgins and bottles of alcohol is sane as well?

Do u mean a prophet that took a 9yr old child home as a wife is sane?.

Do u mean that you are sane as well?

samkoro: Ok .Shariah doesn't support mass murder,but small scale murder

samkoro: My brother,take it easy u ar exhibiting violence with ur mouth.Thank God I'm far from u or else u would have used sword on me so as to meet some phantom virgins.

The truth always hurts ,brother .But if u are courageous enough to take it,it will give u freedom and salvation.And ull go to real heavens under the shadow of love and not allahs bloody heaven under the shadow of sword and blood,with 72 tormentors they call virgins.

samkoro: Print This Article

ISLAM AND BLACK AMERICANS

By Btilly, A RAISN HEAD

Many wonder why many Blacks in America join Islam. Well at first, they were told that Islam was the Black man's religion and that Christianity was a white's man's religion. This was done easily as the KKK was supposedly Christians but pure hate of the racist KKK and other supremist groups. The picture of Jesus was that of a white man and it was used to degrade Christianity. Although the Bible never said Jesus was a fair skinned man or a dark one, just that he was a Jew. Muhammad was a white man, but Blacks didn't know.

However, it turned out to be a cult of greed and racism no better than the KKK. Since during this time many Blacks were not educated and were so gullible, it was easy to impress them with hate of the Caucasian man.

Elijab Muhammad, a fair-skinned Black man was able to use his fair color to start what we now know as the Nation of Islam. During this time, fair skinned Blacks were able to advance much more than dark skinned ones, especially the men. Fair-skinned women were desired by the Black men, since the white women were out of their reach.

Blacks were told that God was a black man and that he was called Allah.

Allah was Wallace Fard, a white man who disappeared. Since Allah was a foreign idea and not easily proven at the time, this cult was very successful. They were able to attract many high profile men like the likes of Cassius Clay and Malcolm Little which gave them clout and a sense of power. After Malcolm X was assisinated they did they lose their grip on the Black community.

The immigration of the Muslims from the Arab world enmass to America presented another problem for the Black Muslims. The teachings were different! The son of the founder of the Nation of Islam decided to forsake the teaching, but one of its leaders, Louis Farrahkan decided to take up the banner of Elijah Muhammad's ideas and continue the message of animosity toward the powers to be in America.

Knowledge and education and the invention of the internet has opened up avenues unimaginable to many. The internet has caused the information given to Blacks to be discredited and it has opened up doors to the educational opportunities beyond the closed minds of religious con men around the world.

Arabs used Black Muslims when necessary and Black Muslims thought they had arrived because the Arabs had come to America to be with their African American brothers. They found out real fast that the Arabs didn't see themselves equal to African American Muslims, but superior because of the color of their skin and that they were the true Arabs. They had the real ISLAM and knew it. Apparently, the Blacks didn't read enough, as the Arabs knew that Muhammad the original prophet had called Africans, ugly, raisin head, pug nosed slaves. Arab Muslims knew from reading the hadiths, that Muhammad said Black women were a sign of a bad disease. Arab Muslims knew also that Allah said when he created Adam that he touched the right shoulder and the white man came out for Paradise, but when he touched the left shoulder the Black man came out for hell.

This was embarassing to the Blacks in Islam, and many left, but many stayed.

Today, many are using the jails to attract black men who feel disenfranchised. Many college professors have succumbed to the teachings of Islam, mainly as an ego booster, regardless of the lies and wrongs exposed about the radical Islamist teachings. Dressing like Arabs, even though Arab poets, such as Jarir made fun of African Muslims by calling them a donkey's penis wrapped in paper.

Most Blacks do not know the true nature of Islam. Since many were raised under Christianity, they think Islam is similar to the kindness espoused under Jesus message. Many have become radicalized and it is such a shame that Blacks have been destroyed by con men of many colors. Similar to the whites men of the KKK, Nazis and other hate groups who were radicalized to kill and hate others, the Blacks and Browns and even Whites from Europe have fallen victim to this evil mind set.

Christiandom has lost its way, as they try to interfaith with men determined to kill them. The Quran called them unbelievers and infidels and apes and pigs to their faces. Yet they are lied to by the Imans and Muslims as Islam allows lying to infidels. The God of the Bible is not the same God. If the two served the same God, why the hate of the Jews and Christians. The God of the Bible never said kill Muslims or Hindus. Jesus said preach the word and if we don't want the messgae walk away and shake the dust off the feet and move on. (Acts 20:20) The God of the Quran and Islam said kill us.
(Sura 9:5-29) (Sura 8:12)

The leaders of Black Islam never tell the converts that Africans and Arab Muslims sold tribalists to the Europeans. Black converts are never told that Arab Muslims castrated African boys at the age of 9-12 and made them fight jihads and become eunuchs to watch over the Arab Muslims harems. That is why no raisin heads are in Arabia today. More African slaves were sent to Arabia via the Eastern Slave Trade than the Atlantic Slave Trade. Arabs still sell Africans as slaves today. African Muslims are called Takrunis in Arabia. These African Muslims came to Arabia seeking a better way of life and are denied schooling and health care as illegal residents. Egypt just killed many Africans because they were illegals.

Arabs want to legalize slavery as they say anyone who says slavery was not Islamic were infdels. NOW WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ALL OF THE AMERICAN BLACK CONVERTS AND ALL CONVERTS AS ONLY ARABS WERE THE BEST OF ALL CREATION. NEXT,

Mandelaguy: haaaaaaaa! Don't even go there. Christian boko haram? Abegi,where you hear that one? Show us proof.......una go kill person 4 dis forum o.....hahahahahahahah

Frostyzone: You 're the one suffering from a disease called delusion, bud.

Frostyzone: Seriously?? Do you have any idea how many women that are senators in U.S? Not to talk of mayors and Congresswomen. Too many. In comparison, how many female ministers does your holy land have? Only one, right? Moving on, who is currently the P.M of Germany? A woman, right? Who is ruling the U.K? A woman, not so? Need I go on? The simple truth Nigga, is that in the west, women are well empowered. So your post is kind of pointless.
And saying that nature doesn't favour women, in order to justify your stupidity, only helps in increasing it further. Word!

Eziachi: Who or what is Almajiris?
Trust Nigerian dictatorial rulers, if you don't know or haven't heard about David Mark, you will think that he is a novice foreign visiting lecturer instead a member of ruling elite and number three part of the govt for that matter.

When MEND were flexing their muscles, southern leaders weren't called to speak out and if any of them had dare, that person would had been dead. Boko Haram are ten times more dangerous and daring than MEND and he is calling this unnamed northerner to speak out. What does he mean by speaking it? What is the public paying him for as number three person in government? What has he done himself, instead sitting in far away peaceful Uyo wasting public money in the name of retreat? Why can't they take the first step by daring Boko Haram and take their retreat to Damaturu?

Abdication of responsibility has always been their operational method. Does the people want to hear about 17 virgin joke or do they want a straight forward proactive action by their government and its officials? Whenever Mark and the likes of him, no matter which part they come from showed any sort of concern, it only when the statu of One Nigeria (their milking cow) is at threat.

All the years he spent is enjoying all sorts of political patronage in the army, he was doing so as a northerner. But now the north has lost power, suddenly a line is being drawn and they think all of us are gullible to forget. As number three man, how many of such places Boko Haram had been destroying the peace has he visited to get a fist hand information or how many law has he and his cronies pass to reflect the menacing problem and now he is talking as if he is not part of te governance that suppose to have all the answers.

Eziachi: Who or what is Almajiris?
Trust Nigerian dictatorial rulers, if you don't know or haven't heard about David Mark, you will think that he is a novice foreign visiting lecturer instead a member of ruling elite and number three part of the govt for that matter.

When MEND were flexing their muscles, southern leaders weren't called to speak out and if any of them had dare, that person would had been dead. Boko Haram are ten times more dangerous and daring than MEND and he is calling this unnamed northerner to speak out. What does he mean by speaking it? What is the public paying him for as number three person in government? What has he done himself, instead sitting in far away peaceful Uyo wasting public money in the name of retreat? Why can't they take the first step by daring Boko Haram and take their retreat to Damaturu?

Abdication of responsibility has always been their operational method. Does the people want to hear about 17 virgin joke or do they want a straight forward proactive action by their government and its officials? Whenever Mark and the likes of him, no matter which part they come from showed any sort of concern, it only when the statu of One Nigeria (their milking cow) is at threat.

All the years he spent is enjoying all sorts of political patronage in the army, he was doing so as a northerner. But now the north has lost power, suddenly a line is being drawn and they think all of us are gullible to forget. As number three man, how many of such places Boko Haram had been destroying the peace has he visited to get a fist hand information or how many law has he and his cronies pass to reflect the menacing problem and now he is talking as if he is not part of te governance that suppose to have all the answers.

Frostyzone: Now I know you are truly stupid. See how you say 'sharia' as if it's a good thing. A law that favours the male over the women folk. A law that supports mass murdering of individuals by stoning. I spit on you and you accursed religion.

Frostyzone: All the Islamic cradle robbers in this thread are frickin delusional, like their prophet. Your religion oppresses women, period. Deal with it.

Ile-Ife:
Lmao. May God almighty, Ogun, Oranmiyan, Sango, Orunmila, Obatala etc grant us the wisdom and resource to fight people like you. amin adua

edicolove: I am very very very proud of the things I learn from my pastor and I can boldly and openly share it with you. I can even paste the text of his message on this forum. But can you do the same? Can you post for us all to read what those Imams are teaching you in the mosque? Since you were born, how many christian suicide bombers have you seen or heard of? That's right, you have no answer. Keep fooling youself there. David Mark has warned you lot. If you like don't listen, but when your cup gets full, you will get the message eventually!

edicolove: Ndu-chucks and Adabayor are names these guys use to deceive and make us think they are Ibo or Yoruba. These guys are following an agenda. They are BH agents and supporters!

edicolove: You are obviously one of those Nigerians who sit somewhere in agege or in malaysia and have no clue of how Nigeria works. For you to say David mark can call Almajiris together? You have just exposed yourself. SMH!

Ile-Ife:
If your NL user name is Sani or Usman, your ipinion will respected and when you are wrong people will correct you, then you learn. But when Ndu chucks, Adebayo, etc say boko-haram is fighting for justice. it irritates.

gegee: o boy go find work do abeg u

edicolove: No contradiction there. Religion breeds terrorists. Greedy politicians use them. That's so easy to understand, it is amazing how you missed it.

fesse: Stop carrying Islam on your head, it is too heavy for you. A religion that you don't know its origin and was introduced to by Arabs to blindfold you. I am a Christian not a Fanatic as you. People you are drinking Phensic for don't know weather your race exists. Hope you know you are second class Muslim in the eyes of the Arabs.

torkaka: for those of you saying david mark is benue and benue is north(so therefore part of the northern leaders). answer the following questions objectively and without bias;

1. can david mark call a gathering of amajiris,islamic scholars & emirs/sultan to talk to them and be listened too?
2. can sule lamido of jigawa call a gathering of gboko/oturkpo park boys,christian leaders & tor tiv/ochi idoma/ters in benue to talk to them and be listened too?
3.is benue(mark's constituency) a haven for bokoharam and religious fanatism?
4.can tinubu influence what happens in anambra? will he be considered a leader by igbos? can he mediate on the MASSOB issue?

gegee: i'm under no compulsion to defend myself to u

noiseless: Mr. boko haram advocate, perhaps here is the opportunity for yourselves to enlighten us why a son of a billionaire like ABUDUL MUTALAB who lived in a london 3 million pound home, would still wear a bomb in his underwear to blow up a passenger plane on a christmas day. The problem with you lot is that you so much detest the truth, it doesn't matter to you where it comes from. Mr. Lacasa, is ABUDUL MUTALAB SUFFERING FROM POVERTY? Thank you.

publisher: Hate the way some Nairalanders always call for the division of Nigeria whenever Boko HaraM issue surfaces. If the North divides from the South what happens to the indigenous Christians of Southern Kaduna, Southern Gombe,Southern Borno,50% of Adamawa,70% of Taraba, 85% of Plateau,39% of Niger state,30% of Kwara,95% of Benue,45% of Nassarawa,30% of Kogi; these are indigenous Christian Northerners,do we expected them to leave their ancestral homes and begin to relocate to Southern Nigeria?
we no get choice o,Nigeria must defeat Boko Haram,by hook or crook! That's the bitter truth.