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Because there was no two certificates presented to court.
The bone of contention in Diri case is that his name is not consistent with the name on the certificate. In adeleke case, court and WAEC had certified his certificate okay since 2018 and there was no discrepancies in the name on the certificate.
Now, apc said the certificate is not genuine, that the certificate he presented in 2018 (which the court had certified ok) is false. Apc said they have another certificate meaning we may likely have two certificates in contention. Therefore, WAEC must be called to certify (again) which is genuine. However, apc didn't invite waec in their case at the tribunal. Apc subpoena inec to bring 2018 certificate, they brought it, apc checked it to see if its different. They didn't say anything. I thought they will produce a different certificate today and ask the tribunal to compare. They didn't.

garfield1:
It is not mandatory to call the maker.in diri vs degi,the makers were not called

No, PDP will bring out the full reports and show the tribunal the alleged over-voting in polling units all over the state and not where only pdp won. You must know that both apc and pdp asked for the CTC of the BVAS reports.

garfield1:
They cannot except in a cross appeal which they didn't.only a loser can approach a tribunal not a winner and the tribunal will only confine itself to issues raised by petitioners

Let me ask you, how do you prove forgery? Is it not by asking the maker if it is genuine or not?

garfield1:
That is what we shall find out but for now,we must find out whether adeleke committed forgery or not

And what if this alleged over-voting happened where APC also won?

garfield1:
And if the maker of the document declines to defend nko?


You are getting emotional.if 1000 are accredited and1200 voted according to Inec sheets,what am I calling a witness to do? Now remind what are the requirements to prove overvoting

And PDP will not bring the remaining polling units in their defense?

garfield1:
You are missing the point.apc is only disputing or calling for cancellations in 749 units and not 1700.the courtwill only act on the 749 apc is disputing

Exactly. Thanks for your time.

fergie001:
Dapo Abiodun had submitted some information in 2015 when he contested as a Senator which were allegedly not true.

When it came up in 2019, Tribunal ruled
1. The Court of Appeal had dismissed the suit earlier so it stays with that Court.

2. It is a pre-election case with which the tribunal should not have been invited.

The Supreme Court judgement delivered by Ejembi Eko JSC as he was then:

By virtue of section 31(1) (2), (4), (5) and (6) of the Electoral Act the issue of alleged false statement in a candidate’s affidavit containing his particulars and personal information, Form CF001, is a pre-election issue. The National Assembly had by that provision provided for the determination or resolution of the issue. In the instant case, the appellants made an issue, in their petition, of the 2nd respondent’s affidavit, Form CF001, allegedly containing false statement of his qualification to contest the election to the office of the Governor of Ogun State. The tribunal and the Court of Appeal were right to have held that by virtue of section 31(1) (2), (4), (5) and (6) of the Electoral Act read together with 285(9) and (14) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) it was a pre-election issue to be disposed of under section 31 of the Electoral Act (as amended), and was therefore statute- barred.

I don't see the difference between these two cases.....

Please explain this case in mention.

fergie001:
Relax, you are going too far....

It's just another...
Adekunle Abdulkabir Akinlade & Anor V. INEC & 2 Others.

Did Oyetola call WAEC to confirm this observation? Reason is that WAEC had since 2018 authenticate this certificate in open court.

FreeStuffsNG:
Why press release? Very strange. The tribunal position is what is being awaited by all not a press release from the Governor's spokesperson..

And is it that the original is with INEC yet INEC took N306K to bring blurry copy from Abuja to Osogbo?

The issue in contention is the file copy he submitted to INEC not any original he is purportedly submitting today. Where is the certificate he submitted to INEC in his file with INEC

The allegation is that the actual certificate he submitted to INEC is forged and subjects/grades are not reflecting his avalanche of Fs in his copy already confirmed by INEC.
check my signature for free stuffs!

Actually APC is clever by half. The unsynchronised BVAS reports show that up to 1700 polling units alleged over-voting. Out of this about 700 were where Adeleke won while the rest is where Oyetola won. If the tribunal will go by these unsynchronised reports, and cancel election results there, pdp will still win.

fergie001:
Have you seen the content or originals of what INEC submitted?
Are you also aware, it was shared with Adeleke's lawyers before they were tendered?


Out of their listed 300 witnesses?
When they open defence, we will know where it's headed.

E no far again....

I wonder too. The reason supreme Court gave for not nullify Akeredolu election is because the appellant didn't join Buni in the suit. Now they join him, appeal court is saying something different.
Let's wait and see what the Supreme Court will say again if and when the case get to them.

babajero:
They gave the judgement because they know if they don't it will affect all apc candidates. Law in Nigeria is corrupt.

In that case, APC is wasting their time on two grounds. One, let's assume APC has a certificate in their possession different from the what adeleke
submitted in 2018, they goofed by not calling WAEC as witness. APC is not the maker of WAEC certificate and cannot authenticate it or otherwise. Two, issue of certificate or qualification is not a ground to contest an election result in a tribunal. It's a pre-election matter and only those who participate in a primary election have ground to sue according to 2022 electoral act.

garfield1:
Yes if new evidences come up or if appeal Court was misled or different facts come up

Alright, I stand to be corrected. Now if the appeal court has ruled that the certificate is not forged, can election tribunal, which has same jurisdiction with high court overrule appeal court?

garfield1:
Oga,it was never thrashed to the supreme Court.if so, quote the case file

There's synchronisation with BVAS. You will get to know what it means when INEC opens her defense. Do you know the same is applicable in some polling units where APC won too?

garfield1:
There is nothing like unsynchronized or sync about bvas.once a voter isaccredited,it uploads automatically.lets wait for inec defence meanwhile adeleke has been cornered

Then you are not following the case. The case has been thrashed in Supreme Court.

garfield1:
No,that was a different case which ended at the appeal court.itwas brought by pdp

What actually is the APC case in the tribunal? What Oyetola and APC called over-voting is due to non-synchronisation of BVAS before its report was printed. The synchronised data from BVAS shows no such thing. It will interest you to know that the unsynchronised BVAS report shows alleged over-voting where both APC and PDP won. INEC defense will show the futility of this shout of over-voting, reason APC themselves only called 2 witnesses out of 300 to prove the over-voting. Nothing is there.

tabaralph:
Don’t be in a hurry, wait for the outcome of the tribunal

This case has been thrashed in 2018 and Adeleke won up to Supreme Court.

garfield1:
Fergie,it seems adeleke has been cornered.I dont know but it seems the fake certificate he tendered in 2018 was what inec brought and apc now brought the originals.
Now the constitution clearly said a candidate will be disq if he has ever submitted a forged certificate to inec via white lion case.this is backed by extant inec regulations and affidavits.
Inec defence won't take much time.highest one week.it is now left for pdp and adeleke defence to start work.since deadline is 29 Jan,defence has till Jan 10.

Will the Supreme Court make pronouncement twice on the same case?

Realists:
Wailing wailers don't understand the legal importance of this case. They will wail 2.0 the day Supreme Court makes prouncement.

Is it the same certificate that supreme Court has ruled as being valid? Nothing is in the certificate,
WAEC came to Court in 2018 to affirm its authenticity. APC is just trying to hold its members before 2023 election.

fergie001:
To add, APC is premising mainly on this certificate issue.

They brought only two out of 300 witnesses for the over-voting allegations. When INEC opens their defence, we will know more.

This Certificate saga is where APC & Oyetola intends to do the maximum damage.

Always welcome.

It will still be deemed unconstitutional because ASUU is in existence in the eyes of the law when this new union is purportedly registered. This union,CONUAS,or what's it called, will be deregistered if ASUU should challenge it in court.

othermen:
The registration is unconstitutional.

Section 3(2) of the trade union act provides that no union shall be registered to represent workers in a place where there already exists a trade union.

Ngige would orchestrate the withdrawal of ASUU’s certificate, once the Union(ASUU) is deregistered (the issue of not submitting financial statements, contempt of the court could serve as the basis) , this registration of this illegal congress body would then be used as encumbrance to forbid a re-registration of the ASUU.

To Ngige, this is all a power game. He doesn’t care about the lives involved.

I'm more particular about Osogbo because it's the stronghold of APC in osun recently.
If they do not win massively in Osogbo to counter Ede votes, there may be trouble.

9jahotblog:
it’s not only on Osogbo, they are in all the 30 local governments in Osun state. They are grassroots politicians. Some of them have decamped to pdp why some are still in APC cos’ Adeoti is still in the court of law on the kangaroo February 19th primary election in APC.

Fortunatelyor unfortunately, dependingon the camp you belong, most of die hard fans of former governor, Aregbesola (TOP) are in Osogbo and environs.

EmmABE:
For APC to win, they need to win massively in osogbo( aregbe's margin) and ife( pdp is winning modakeke and ife north)

1. There's no faction in national PDP. So, there's only one NWC who has the legal authorityto validate delegates(and not any court) and conduct primary election.
2. Babayemi cannot question the primary election he was not part of.
3. As at the time of the court order, state high court has no jurisdiction on pre-election matters again following new electoral act.
4. Even if adeleke election was void, babayemi cannot be PDP candidate because (a) The election at wocdif wherein babayemi was declared winner was not conducted by a legal entity I.e. PDP NWC but by Prince Oyinlola and (b) the election at wocdif was not supervised by the INEC which law frown at. So at worse, if adeleke was disqualified by court, which I doubt, PDP will not have a validly conducted primary election and therefore have no candidate in the forthcoming election.

muykem:
So umpire is more important than voters in an election in your own opinion. Validity of deligates is more superior to presence of NWC.

18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

28 And I will give him the morning star.

29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 2: 18-29.

Yoruba words are pregnant with meanings. I want to believe that our forefathers deliberately stored information and history in words. Words are not just words in yoruba phenomenon. I can easily relate with this word 'Ojo re bi ana'. This was a term my father normally used in the evening when we were about closing for the day in the farm. If the day ends at evening, then it means day also starts in the evening.
It indicates the yoruba timing is evening to evening like the Hebrews. I am encouraged by your insight. Concerning days of the week, is sunday the first day of the week in yoruba like in modern calendar?

absoluteSuccess:
Thanks boss,

Osan gangan, that's the peak of the day, 12pm, ojo kanri.

Oru ganjo, aajin, the farthest or deepest hour of the night, midnight.

Feere, afeemojumo, dawn.

Ile nsu, ile nmo, ojo ngori ojo. From this alone, the Yoruba naturally looks to evening and the morning as the end and the beginning of another day.

Some might subscribe to Ile nmo Ile nsu, it still makes the day culminate in the evening, when another day began, "ojo nrebi ana".

Something else can be observed, loru ana, loru eni, loru ijeta. There's no loru ijeeji. Eni, ana, ijeta. Ana is ijeeji. Ana is Aji: mid, in-between.

In monetary value, ana is the spent. Aina is the capital. The spent time can never be recovered. Ana is the day that has fallen to the spent column of time.

On the other hand, tomorrow is Ola, Yoruba for wealth. This future time seems to fall into the wealth or asset column of time. It has not been spent and so, full of opportunities.

Today, eni, e ni. Total balance, possession, having, bonus, eni. In this sense of time, the three words for days of the week matches with economic thinking, sort of weird.

Well it's not the first time you will encounter sound economic philosophy in the Yoruba imponderables, another example is opokun oyankun.

The cheaper the quantity, the popular the choice.

Enjoy our Yoruba moments.

Morning brother, when does a typical yoruba day begins? When is the first hour of the day in yoruba's understanding of time? Thanks and well done.

absoluteSuccess:
Can you see that the word of Ifa expose the movement of Oye in this piece so clearly? Onbo loke is the moment the sun crosses the equator and it's light has already break into the day.

O nbo loke means "ojo kanri". The Odu shows that the Oye is expected at the center around 12pm. So, nbo is the path followed by Oye, it's Oye because it's mbo to mbo, sunrise to sunrise.

But when it descended below the equator, it's like oyeku: the light is off. This is the state of ignorance like the Awo consultation used to invoke Ela. So that enlightenment, to throw light on the dark side of their ignorance comes.

It's just the same thing you did here with the Ifa precept. That's Ela Oro to towa wa.

Ire o.

Omokri should call it as it is. If ijebu are ancient jebusite, then Yorubas are ancient Hebrews because from the biblical account, jebusites live among the ancient Hebrews as it is today.There was a time he wrote that ijebus are ancient jebusite but Yorubas are ancient Egypt forgetting that jebusite never lived with Egyptians.

Clevite:
The Ijebu, The Yoruba and Their Influence on The Bible and Judaism

By Reno Omokri

First published on my personal Facebook profile in 2017, then republished in my ThisDay column, TheAlternative, on Sunday, September 30, 2018.

I am reposting this article, that I wrote last year again, because some Yoruba elders have investigated and found that I was right about the origin and meaning of the word Yoruba (Yar’iba). Can those Yoruba who insulted me in September 2018, now read and apologise?

One of the most fascinating aspects of the history of the Black Race is hidden in plain sight and I have known this for years, but I have been a coward. I know my people. I know how some of us love to deprecate their own selves. And I was afraid that if I wrote about the truth, I would be attacked. But when has it ever been that truth was first celebrated?

For the truth, it has always been as Mahatma Gandhi said “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” I have no interest in winning. I just want the truth to be out there.

But as I woke up this morning, a Force propelled me. I was so restless and I asked myself why I was restless. And the words of John 8:32 were emblazoned on my mind:

“you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

Elsewhere, I have written about the biblical Nimrod (the first world emperor) in Genesis 10. I showed in actual fact that there was nothing like Nimrod. His real name is Namrud in Aramaic and Arabic. From where the European translators got the name Nimrod, I would not know. But the name found in the Pentateuch is Namrud. Do not take my word for it. Google it. Or go to a reference library.

I had also said that that Namrud was no other person than Lamurudu, the father of Oduduwa, the father of the Yoruba people. If you want evidence, Google my article ‘Why Black Man dey Suffer today.’

But today, I want to reveal the truth about a place called Jerusalem.

Many people do not realise that the original name for Jerusalem was not Jerusalem but actually Jebus. If you doubt me, stop reading right now and Google the word Jebus. Or go to a reference library.

The Jebus were a tribe that occupied the modern day Jerusalem before they were conquered by King David. This is a historical fact. It is also recorded in the Bible.

In Joshua 11:3, we read:

“And to the Canaanite on the east and on the west, and to the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Jebusite in the mountains, and to the Hivite under Hermon in the land of Mizpeh.”

Now, note those words “the Jebusite in the mountains”. It is very important, as I will explain later.

Do not be confused by the use of the generic term ite after the names of tribes. They were not used in the original Hebrew Scriptures. It was the European and specifically the English translators of the Hebrew Scriptures, that added the generic suffix, ite.

So for example, in their eyes, a person from Canaan would be a Canaanite. The children of Ammon would be called Ammonites. And those from Jebus were called Jebusites.

I do not know why they did this. Did they do it to deceive, confuse, or hide the truth? Or, did they do it for ease of reference? Your guess is as good as mine.

Now, if you read 2 Samuel 5:6, it says:

“The king and his men marched to Jerusalem to attack the Jebusites, who lived there.”

The King here, refers to David. David attacked Jebus and defeated them as we can see in verse 8 of 2 Samuel 5 which says:

“David had said, "Anyone who conquers the Jebusites will have to use the water shaft to reach those 'lame and blind' who are David's enemies."

In verse 9, we read that David defeated the Jebusites, but did not take up residence in the mountains, where most of them lived (remember I told you to remember the mountains).

He chose to reside in the lowlands surrounding the mountains as we read in verse 9:

“David then took up residence in the fortress and called it the City of David. He built up the area around it, from the terraces inward.”

In actual fact, the name Jebus that you read about in The Bible, refers to a tribe now known as Ijebu in Southwest Nigeria.

I have just blown your mind. I know. It sounds like blasphemy. Heresy. But please let me land!

The Ijebu do not really call themselves I-J-E-B-U, the way an outsider would pronounce all syllables. They actually call themselves J-E-B-U, with the I before jebu silent.

And the Ijebu people are unlike other Yoruba tribes in that they do not claim Yoruba heritage. They have something you would find nowhere else in Yoruba land. They have a king called Awujale.

The Awujale of Ijebu, Sikiru Adetona, revealed in an interview, (which I urge every reader of this article to read: simply Google Middle East origins of the Ijebu), that the Ijebu originally came from the area around the Middle East to the Sudan.

This agrees with the biblical references in Joshua 11:3 and 12:10 as well as 2 Samuel 5:6-10.

So if the Jebus were the original inhabitants of Jerusalem, where does the word Jerusalem come from?

You see, the Ijebu or Jebu is the name of the tribe. However, they name their towns, villages and habitations after the topography of their environment.

So for instance, in modern day Nigeria, the Ijebu towns are known by the prefix Ijebu, followed by a suffix indicating their topography. Today, the Ijebu towns are known as Ijebu-Ode (which may loosely mean outer Ijebu), Ijebu-Igbo (which may loosely mean forested Ijebu). You also have Ijebu-Remo, Ijebu-Isiwo and other Ijebu towns, villages and communities that begin with the prefix Ijebu and end with a suffix depicting their topography or to a lesser extent, their history.

Now, recall that I urged my readers to remember that in Joshua 11:3, the Jebus were referred to as living in the mountains, but in 2 Samuel 5:6, the Bible records that the Jebus lived in Jerusalem.

Psalm 125:2 reads:

“As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds his people both now and forevermore.”

Jerusalem is a town surrounded by mountains. Even today, some residents of Jerusalem live in the mountains, others live in the lowlands or valley.

The Jebus who were living in the lowlands of Jerusalem and who were conquered by King David in 2 Samuel chapter 5 were Ijebu-Isale, loosely meaning Ijebu of the lowland or valley.

It is that Ijebu-Isale, which the natives would have called Jebu-sale (both i’s after Ijebu and Isale would have been silent) that was mispronounced as Jeru-Sale by King David and his men, because 2 Samuel chapter 5 quite clearly states that King David built the city of David in the lowland. Jeru-Sale became Jerusalem.

The challenge many Black People have is that we do not read. It is still true today that if you want to hide something from a Black man, you hide it in a book.

These things you just read are not secrets. They have been hidden in the most popular book in the world for centuries! They are in The Bible!

It grieves me when I see Black People, especially people of the Igbo tribe of Nigeria, say that their culture is derived from Jewish culture. That is not true and I will prove it using only Scripture.

Many people do not realise that there is a difference between being a Hebrew and being Jewish.

Hebrews are the descendants of Abraham. Jews are those who profess the faith of Judaism.

The faith of Judaism is not actually traced to Abraham, although the God of Judaism (whom I believe in) is the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The fact is that the prophet Moses (Moshe) was the founder of Judaism. [/b]But how did he come about his spiritual knowledge?

Moses was an Egyptian general of Hebrew descent. For the first 40 years of his life, he lived in Egypt and had no connection with the one true God.

It was only when he ran away from Egypt after killing an Egyptian, that he met God.

Moses sought asylum in Midian, where he lived for forty years. He married Zipporah, the daughter of Jethro, the priest of Midian (also known as Reuel). This is very important. Why? Because Jethro was Black. How do I know? The Bible tells us.

Numbers 12:1 reads:

“And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.”

If you read the same verse in the NIV, it says:

“Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite.”

Cush is the Hebrew word for Black. Do not be confused by the use of Ethiopian by the King James Version. When the KJV uses the term Ethiopian, what it actually means is Black Africa. You see, when the King James Version was written, Africa was known as Ethiopia and Black People were called Ethiope.

Google the word Ethiope if you doubt me. The nation now known as Ethiopia is referred to as Sheba in the Old Testament. It is NEVER referred to as Ethiopia (except in the New Testament). Hence, the Queen of Ethiopia who visited King Solomon is referred to as the Queen of Sheba, not Queen of Ethiopia.

So Moses was living with Black People in Midia and married the daughter of their Black priest. It was while he was there that he had the encounter with God described as the Burning Bush experience of Exodus 3.

A lot of the spiritual and physical laws which Moses passed on to the Hebrews in the form of the religion of Judaism were actually taught to him by his Black father-in-law. How do I know? Because the bible says so.

Exodus 18:24 says:

“Moses listened to his father-in-law and did everything he said.”

This is the reason why there are so many similarities between Jewish culture and Black African culture.

For example, in Deuteronomy 25:5, Moses taught that if a man dies without a seed, his brother, who is next in line, will produce seed for him through his widowed wife.

In the New Testament, the Sadducees threw this law at the face of our Lord Jesus in Matthew 22:24 which reads:

“Teacher," they said, "Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him.”

This custom is present in the original customary laws of almost all Black African tribes. Africans did not learn this from the Jews. The Jews learnt it from Africans.

Africans need to realise that the very first nation mentioned in the Bible is the Black Race.
Genesis 2:13 reads:

“The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.”

That word Cush is the Hebrew word for the Black Race till this very day.


Even the way that the Jews consulted God (divination) is of Black origin. Many times, when we read that God told a Jewish prophet something, it is not that God came down or spoke to them in dreams or through an angel, which did happen. However, by far the most consistent way that the Israelites consulted and heard from God, was through the practice of divination. It is in the Bible.

Aaron was a diviner. He cast lots, using holy jewelled beads called Urim and Thummim.

Exodus 28:30 reads:

“Also put the Urim and the Thummim in the breastpiece, so they may be over Aaron's heart whenever he enters the presence of the LORD. Thus Aaron will always bear the means of making decisions for the Israelites over his heart before the LORD.”

David was recorded as a good king because he regularly practiced divination (casting the lot).

We see this in 1 chronicles 24:31

“They also cast lots, just as their relatives the descendants of Aaron did, in the presence of King David and of Zadok, Ahimelek, and the heads of families of the priests and of the Levites. The families of the oldest brother were treated the same as those of the youngest.”

Even the land of Canaan was divided amongst the tribes of Israel by divination.

Numbers 26:55 reads:

“But the land shall be divided by lot. They shall receive their inheritance according to the names of the tribes of their fathers.”

Even in the New Testament, the disciples of our Lord and Saviour used divination to choose a successor to Judas Iscariot.

In Acts 1:26 we read:

“Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.”

This practice of casting lots, is a very ancient and still common practice amongst the Jebu or Ijebu people of Nigeria specifically and amongst the descendants of Oduduwa.

Just as the Jewish priests use beaded jewels known as Urim and Thumim, so do the Jebu or Ijebu and the Omo Oduduwa use beads for their divination.

If you have ever watched a Nollywood movie where a traditional priest threw beads on the floor and saw the future or identified a culprit who stole or predicted the outcome of a given venture, that was the ancient Black African science of divination.

Now, I have used the word, Yoruba, to describe the Omo Oduduwa as distinct from the Jebu or Ijebu. But ask any Yoruba elder for the meaning of Yoruba and they have no clue. The truth is that before the British came, there was NOTHING like Yoruba.

You were either Egba, Owu, Ijesha, Awori, etc. You will not find any document bearing the word Yoruba from the 18th century. The omo Oduduwa now called Yoruba used to call themselves omooluabi.

The word Yoruba actually comes from the word Yar’Iba. It is a Fulani word dating from the days of slavery. If you read the memoirs of Bishop Samual Ajayi Crowther, he did not refer to himself as Yoruba.

In his memoirs, Ajayi Crowther revealed that he was raided from his village in Osogun (in present day Oyo state) by Fulani slave raiders (different from slave traders).

The Fulani were notorious for raiding tribes of the lower Niger. They called the Igbo Yar’Miri, which is a derogatory name that they still call them in the North (Nyamiri). The Yorubas they called Yar’Iba. I know the meaning of that word and it is so derogatory that I will not reveal it here.

It was the British, who in search of an ethnic identity for the Omo Oduduwa, took the derogatory word Yar’iba, and mispronounced it as Yoruba.

The actual name for the Yoruba or the Omo Oduduwa, is omoluabi, which is a word that evolved from omo-ti-olu-iwa-bi, meaning the child that the lord of character begat.

Many people, including many modern day Yoruba speakers, think that Oluwa means Lord. No it does not. Oluwa connotes Lord, but it does not mean just lord. It means Lord of Iwa, meaning character or good morals.

Now what is the origin of omo-ti-olu-iwa-bi? Many, myself included, think it goes back to the origin of Adam, the child that had no mother or father but was begotten by the Lord as we read in Genesis 2, which itself agrees with the folkloric origins of Oduduwa’s ancestral line through Lamurudu.

I know that these revelations may be shocking and could even seem like heresy to some of my readers, but I urge everyone who has read this to behave like the Berean people.

Acts 17:11 reads:

“Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.”

Please search the Scriptures. Everything you have read here is based on Scripture, shocking as it may be.

Reno Omokri

Deep Thinker. #1 Bestselling author of Facts Versus Fiction: The True Story of the Jonathan Years. Avid traveller. Table Shaker. Buhari Tormentor. Sharer of the Gospel.

Glory to God. These tribes, making up Yoruba nation, came together to this geographical space and lived side by side as kingdoms and kindred before the Caucasians partition us into different countries, government by different Caucasian nation, changed our names/kingdoms etc. Their aim was for us to forget who we are as prophesied.

2prexios:
@Adee17,

I think I've a break, you are perfectly right as to the root of the term "whydah" being derivative of a kingdom of Judah as record has shown.

I stumbled upon the post above, could you believe that Latin for Palestinians or Canaanites used to be Poenus?

People of Awandeh (Whydah) are called Poenu among the Egun. In the same manner, the Greek for Juda is Ouidah.

Poenu, Setonu, Torinu, Anagonu, Tsekrinu, Ajranu, Waenu, etc. My folks are Waenu. The evidence is very interesting.

Poenus is the root for the more popular word "Punic". You have a word that parallels with Egun in Gunugus district of classical Carthage.

These words are immortal, bearing historical recollection and reflection of the lost legacies of the Yoruba and her neighborhood from time.

To God be the glory, the thread has served it's purpose.

Yes, Hausas are ancient Assyrians. The colonizers of ancient Hebrews. They appear as our kindred because many of them left with us down to Africa including Egypt when Assyria empire was attacked. The Yorubas who went to Egypt from Assyria were later deported alongside some Egyptians after it was attacked by Babylonians. It was a mixed multitudes. Oral history of Hausa, Nupe and Igalas confirmed this journey.

absoluteSuccess:
LOL, you can never help the eternal hatred. It will always play itself out. That's playing out between the Yoruba and the Bini.

But they're good people too and we'll always have them as the hand of God. Remember Obadiah, he was a prophet from Edom.

Sometimes I agree with the Edo as the originators of Oba, Obadiah derived from Edom and the Edomite have kings before the Israelites.

Some of their arguments reinforce the truth.

Do you think that the Hausa were Assyrians? I believe they were the same kindred as the Yoruba. Nigeria was originally established by the same ancestors.

My take though.

As you have said, they are foreign religions. Our ancestors did not know anything about Christianity or islam but isese. These two religions actually came from isese. The point is those who link Yoruba to Near East actually use our isese to decipher the code. One expert, can't remember his name now, said it is either Hebrews borrowed our isese into their religion or vice versa, or they are of the same people. Our isese actually betray and gave us away as migrants from Near East. Although we have forgotten about isese, the religion of our ancestors, and follow after foreign gods which our ancestors did not know as prophesied, we will still go back to it and rediscover ourselves.

TAO11:
Lol! Thanks much brother. I think they took their foreign religions to another level.

I can see you want to unravel Yoruba origin through peer review historical works. It is good, but are you aware that those historical experts do not have similar views about Yoruba origin? Some wrote we are from Ife originally while others say we are migrants. Please how do interpret Lange's work on Oyo origin? I believe you must have read his work.

TAO11:
Lol. You seem to have a penchant for pasting comments (though long but) which misses the whole point.

The crux and foundation of your whole post lies in your comment which I have isolated above.

In an attempt to reply my comment, you simply repeated your very (foundational) point that I've already debunked in the same comment you're replying.

You alluded to the fact that the foreign origin hypothesis (about Oduduwa and the Yorubas) was first initiated by Rev. S. Johnson.

You also alluded to the fact that every other similar foreign origin hypotheses (about Oduduwa and the Yorubas) are simply subsequent variety of followings in the foot step of S. Johnson.

And then you gave a long listing of these subsequent vareity of followings in the foot step of S. Johnson.

I have already mentioned all these in the same comment you're replying.

However, you failed to address the very fundamental issue I raised which demolishes all your pastings.

This issue has to do with the sources of (and the influences on) Johnson's conlusion of foreign origin.

In other words, from where did this pioneer (i.e. S. Johnson) get this particular account of foreign origin of Oduduwa/Yoruba?

In case you haven't asked yourself this fundamental question before, the time to do that is now.

But to make things easier for you, S. Johnoson didn't get this account of Yoruba/Oduduwa origin from Ife.

Neither did he get it from Oyo, nor did he get it from any Yoruba subgroup for that matter.

"Fom where then" you may ask. In fact, S. Johnson got this particular account, of Yoruba/Oduduwa origin, from a Fulani man -- Sultan Bello of Sokoto.

Interestingly, prior to this account from Sultan Bello, such an account of the roots of Oduduwa/the Yorubas being outside of Yorubaland is conspiciously and absolutely unheard of among the Yorubas themselves.

The only available account that was widely known to the Yorubas about their own origin is as contained in the Yoruba myth of creation & origin, the earliest known version of which states in summary that:

God sent a certain heavenly beign named Oko to proceed to the earth to establish a home for humankind. Oko and his retinue of aides, with whom he left heaven, are said to have descended in a place known simply as Ooyelagbo. This region of descent is said to be a place characterized by a very large body water.

Migration from the east is absolutely out of the question. It was alien to the Yorubas' history and thoughts about their own origin.

Although myths are over-the-centuries exaggerations, modifications and distortions of some kernel of truth and fact; historians (unlike lay-persons) consider it a very important task to discern these nucleus of truths and facts.

A patient and careful look through the many versions of the Yoruba myth of creation & origin (including the latter versions which feature Oduduwa, Obatala, et al.) reveals this basic kernel of truth and fact which have been wrapped up over the centuries by layers of exaggerations, modifications, and distortions.

This kernel of truth and fact which appears in all the different versions of the Yoruba myth of origin & creation are:

(a) The Yorubas consistently assert (through all the many versions of the myth) that they are not originally alien to their present region.

(b) The Yorubas consistently assert (through all the many versions of the myth) that their first homeland (in this region) is a place characterized by a very large body of water.

These logical deductions from the extant Yoruba traditions is clearly in reasonable agreement with the scientific conlusions reached unanimously today by the body of historical scholarship -- both indigenous and non-indigenous.

This scientific conclusion says that the first and original home of the ethnic and linguistic group of people known today as the Yorubas is to be found within today's Nigeria specifically around the Niger-Benue confluence.

What about the man Oduduwa? What does Yoruba traditional accounts say about his roots before Sultan Bello (followed by S. Johnson) made him into an Arab?

I have earlier touched on this where I cited S. A. Akintoye's reference to the traditional accounts about the roots of the man Oduduwa. See below one more time:

"An examination of most of the traditions fairly definitively establish that Oduduwa was born in the stranger's area of Ife to leaders of a small group that had relocated from one of the hills beyond the elu at Ife, that he grew up in the traditions of resentment in the strangers' area, and that his youth and Obatala's youth (both of them "sons of the soil") were spent in the tradition of growing conflicts in Ife. The traditional accounts put both men in the era of conflicts from its beginning to its end, obviously because of their extremely dominant roles in its latter stages. In the light of this, it is reasonably certain that the group which became popularly known as the Oduduwa group in the traditions was led to the Ife area not by Oduduwa but by his parents or grand parents."

S.A. Akintoye, "A History of The Yoruba People", p.62.

These indeed are the actual issues which you have unfortunately avoided.

First, Hebrews or Near East origin is not the same thing as Jews. If I may ask, why do you think an Hebrew cannot bear that Oriki?

TAO11:
Had to post this again in reply to your comment above. My "OmoOlofin" account was locked out as I tried to modify my last reply to you (now deleted) to include some Yoruba orthography.

The comment is shown below with its intended modification:

Our emotions are miserably helpless and irrelevant in the face of facts.

Modified:
Interestingly, as I was just randomly flipping some pages now, I stumbled upon a line in the oriki of Ajibogun (the first Obokun-Ijesa and a grandson of Oduduwa).

The specific line in the oriki discribes Ajibogun as "okunrin dudu ori eshin".

How could this possibly be if his grandfather is indeed Arabo or Jew? Lol.

Allow the guy to continue his debate with decorum and intellect as he is doing. I actually like his way of putting across his ideas without any abuse or vulgar language. He is a true Omoluabi. Why would you think debating with us demean him? I disagree with his views though.

AnambraIstSon:
Omo you dey try o, these confused African-Jews will waste your time. They have no facts which are limited but they have endless conjectures from imaginative composition.

The sad part is that, the Obalufon guys is from my hometown. Rather than going home to interview his people he's on the internet imagining he's a Jew.

Pathetic thread.