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PHijo:
God bless Okrika clan, God bless the Ijaw nation!

Ameen!

How Beautiful!
Not there yet, but sure good way to start after all the environmental pollution and that.

Kirike clan will never settle for anything less than first place.
cc:Nengi Ogan

Ckonnet:
If these guys arguing here have really visited these areas they should ask themselves why most of their grandmothers are igbos mostly from ngwa n umuahia axis, are they telling me it's a mere coincidence. From okrika to bonny,opobo n andoni,their grannies are mostly the ngwa stock. Some communities in okrika axis went as far as banning igbo language in their communities.

They were igbo slaves.

afonjaheadhunts:
No need for your long gibberish the answer to all of this is in your trashy post already a court rules on what can be proven right? your claim is that Ijaws own Bonny and Opobo how is it that they could not prove it in court? Ole. Them loss document?

Stop making a fool of yourselves wiki links will not save you, falsified video of brass youths claiming Opobo or Bonny will not save you I can also show you video of Asari and Goodluck Jonathan claiming their Igboness does that mean they are Igbo's? I can show you timaya singing in Igbo does that make him Igbo.

Bonny and Opobo still maintain their ties with Igbo's and relationship with Kith and kins in Igbo land so falsifying documents and video means you will lose another court case cause you can't prove what never existed, if Any people should even drag Bonny and Opobo with Igbo's it should be Ibibio and Annang as they Brit gave Account of them not Ijaws.

Take a sail to Ghana and Togo that is where you all belong if you are not satisfied with your 8lga in Bayelsa.

Lol. So you've accepted defeat at last. I had spare time today to engage you ignorant lots. Don't make mistake, you won't be fortunate to force my attention next time. Ignorant folks like you aren't worth my lecturing.

afonjaheadhunts:
Nigeria have been kind enough to give Ijaws with little population and a voting strength of just 800k, Free land 8Lga in Bayelsa Ijaw migrants in other states should be grateful to the Nigerian state. This land grabbing and ungrateful nature of Immigrants Ijaws from Bayelsa in other states would cost them a lot in future.

Deltans are not foolish but you particularly an ungrateful and unapologetic Ijaw migrants in Delta is foolish.

Thanks for using your male account to reveal yourself at last. I have also reviewed the necessary cultural affinity opobo and bonny shares with Ijaw, I will refer you to youtube to watch their cultural displays and relate same to other ijaws in Edo, and Ondo states respectively.

afonjaheadhunts:
You are not a bright chap, is it the king that makes the people a nation, or the people make a nation, the British ruled Nigeria preindependece did that make us british, Buhari is the president of Nigeria does that make us Fulanis, the Names are English, Igbo and mixed names. The Oba if Lagos said that the stool belongs to Benin does that make Lagosians Benin? I have noticed how you have been schooled over and over yet you cannot comprehend the simplest things like a tributary, a river and a Delta even after seeing a map, how then would you understand a history of my Igbo people, better stick to fishing and weaving fishing nets that your Ijaw people are know for.

A quick one what was the ruling of the supreme court in Opobo? Where was Jaja from? So how do you isolate Jaja his people and claim Opobo is Ijaw, you're simply a dumb criminal. Ijaws better go beg Barcanista to come back to NL cause you land thieves here are to dumb to even understand your history let alone tell one how then do your promote your expansionist agenda, even if Opobo or Bonny people come across this thread they would rather associate with a goat than your dumb Ijaw likes on this thread. Olodo I dey shame for you. Tueh

You're the biggest fool. bringing fables to score cheap points. your analysis are pure act of desperation - survival instincts. These Kingships are heriditary, and not rotational or some political creation. You are even contradicting yourself further. You said Igbo mixed abi? mention them, yet you couldn't highlight any to make your counter-argument substantial. Sounding intelligent, you must be a joke to think everyone is ignorant like you. I asked you if I should share a video of Bonny youths affirming their Ijawness? instead of countering that you are here submiting baseless points. all for what really? Oga you be mumu, how do you believe Jaja went alone to form a Kingdom or a City state on his own without being accompanied by Ijaw chiefs and elders? About supreme court verdict on Opobo, we all know, court decisions are based on what can be proven and not necessarily what is true. so you must be so daft to use supreme's court decision as the basis to claim Opobo as an Igbo city-state. forced attachees. landlocked slaves...
By the way, have you seen Bonny or Opobo people's traditional attires? does it have any cultural affinity with any igboid tribe? lol. Google is your friend. Like how can a race be so daft.. Have you tried checking Opobo and Bonny's traditional songs on google? just try it now my bro.. even the Song tittles would awoken your moral sense of judgement that's if you have one. it won't take more than a minute. just type 'Bonny traditional songs' on google and see the response. just glance through the song tittles. You will be humbled by them.

Nwanyiogwashi:
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So they adopt Igbo language and names
I always know that ijaw people are foolish people but doesn't know that their foolishness has been upgraded.

You will soon loose your 8 local government of bayelsa state.

Anytime 8 local governments in Bayelsa, anytime 8 local governments. and You claim to be from Delta state. I can beat my chest and vow that no home grown Deltan will make these comments you have made against the Ijaws. I can never accept that you're from Delta. be proud of ur state abeg. stop claim Delta.. ur emphasis on Anioma, n being a daughter of Ugwashukwu, creates a suspicion of force attachment like your kith and kins from the landlocked region. I swear, if you're my Delta state, I'll be so ashamed of your disposition. I know my Deltans, dey are not that blinded by sentiments downplay obvious facts in their home state, not for any reason.. Haba! A Deltan so sadistic and fanatical to the extent of discrediting domestic truth about the state. Haba! no nah. not my Delta biko.. not my Delta abeg, we can be stubborn, but not foolish.. tueh!

WorWorBoy:
Which abandoned properties are you talking about that you don't want to forget? And when and how did you guys own properties that suddenly became Abandoned Properties?

You even get time to reply am.

afonjaheadhunts:
History documented by who Ijaws or Europeans you refused to accept the Account of the Europeans, Brit, Portuguese or Dutch cause all give accounts of Ijaws coming from Togo or Ghana as slaves to Portuguese to work on boats and later serving as slaves to Igbos who the Europeans met when the settled on the coastal parts of the Niger. Now you refuse all of that to provide me with wiki links edited by Alagoa. You think Igbo's are fishermen who swallow everything hook linke and sinker?

Why did Ijaws not present the wiki links to supreme court that declared Opobo Jaja's personal estate. Links will not save you Opobo's know their history and the are proud Igbo's till today. Yoruba and Benin share the shame Oba title does that make them the same ethnic group, Hausa Fulani share the same title Emir, Sultan does that make them same ethnicity? Your land grabbing will attempt with revisionist historians will not award an inch of Igboland to Ijaws land grabbers.

Bonny on the other hands is not even in contest as they are proud Igbo's and with their links and history traced to mainland Igbos we share same culture, language, tradition name, attire etc with their Kith and kind in SE Igboland. Now the only thing Ijaws have with either of this group is that they are both in SS part of Nigeria how does that make Opobo or Bonny Ijaws?

Igbo's sold criminals, ex convict, and banished sons to Europeans as purnishment for crimes committed, secondly Igbo's sold into slavery were either abducted and sold or exiled, and exconvicts who committed abominations and this trades were majorly done by Igbos slave merchants not Ijaws, Ijaws were already Portuguese slaves who ferried the trade to europeans, Ijaws were also serving servants in Igbo domains, and Ijaw freeborns were slaves in Igbo homes in Bonny, Ndoki and other riverine Igboland.

I think Nigeria needs to reintroduce History in our schools so many uniformed people, however from this thread it is easy to see that Ijaws don't know their history that's why the reverence Asari an Igbo man as the greatest Ijaw and Ijaw historian. Another thing worthy note is that the greatest men in Ijaw history are Igbo's or got there with Igbo's support King Jaja of Opobo, Jumbo, Asari Dakubo, Goodluck Jonathan.

We are talking about Ijaw names in thrones and not tittle. How about I share a video of Bonny youths in domonstrations and affirming their Ijawness? Will that do? but before then, you ought to share me your own account of Bonny and Opobo Kings till date, since u said Wiki's was edited by Alagoa. Kindly bring ur own list of Opobo and Bonny Kings.

Nigercity:
oga cry me a river
do you even know the criteria for constructing a Port
check the distance distance of pH port to the sea and compare it to this one that's just 23 nautical miles away from the Sea
and in between the water pass through a channel which is neither Akwa-ibom nor Rivers,

once again consult your map
this is unlike the Ebonyi river that sperate akwa- cross to the Atlantic oceans
this is totally different oga!
assuming it entered any of the aforementioned state like Rivers or Akwa-ibom
those state would have fired many petitions against Abia state for trying to build a sea Port there,
even Akwa-ibom left there to develop ibom deap sea port in another location,
so before you talk trash
show me any Sea port in Nigeria more closer to the sea than this!
(the are very few, not up to 3)
not even warri port, Calabar port e.t.c

Can't help but laugh. oga u win! lol

Nigercity:
You from far away bayelsa
With your ogogooro tongue
Will pronounce the name of my community for me...
Lolz
Anyway
I love your comedy
Keep it up shaa
So long as you keep giving also accolades am cool with that

One thing about the truth is that no matter how much you undermine it, it will stand out because that's the fact. undermining the Ijaws instead of befriending them creates a wrong impression about your image, and the Ijaws in their knowledge will not be stupid not to be concscious of your unguarded comments against them.. You (Igbos) didn't just start a war, you've lost it even before it will begin.. Landlock slaves.. force attachees..

Nigercity:
Don't tell me
That at your age you still don't know how to use Google statelight map,
Anyway am not here to school you
But manage this imagine below
Red arrow is azumiri (it separate ABIA, Rivers and akaw ibom)

Like are you kidding me? lol I wasn't disputing the fact about you having a river. I want to see where it emptied into the atlantic ocean via your state landlocked states without mentioning other states. For Instance, I can tell you where Rivers, Delta, Akwa-Ibom, Bayelsa, and Ondo states borders with the atlantic ocean without mentioning any state in their way.. How come you're talking about a river when we are talking about states that has access to the sea? are you that daft? like really nigga? is that the best you've got?

afonjaheadhunts:
Underwater creature, you will be lucky to be left with 2Lga in Bayelsa when Nigeria disintegrates, by the time all southern groups take their lands in Bayelsa you underwater creatures will have no choice but to go back to Serving your Ndoki Igbo masters as slaves in Bonny and Opobo Igboland.

Already, your people have already been shown your worth as slaves in Nigeria and asked to secure of the creek and water ways like you did for Portuguese and Ndoki 200yrs ago while we mainland Igbo's rule you for generations to come.

Calling Ijaws slave will be a compliment when Nigeria disintegrates that's why you lots are fighting tooth and nail to win non Ijaws to your side in a no existent Niger Delta shameless lots that everyone have denied.

If you cant wrap your dumb brain around the Azumini river in Abia, A quick one how can we be land locked when Bonny and Opobo is Igboland. Do Ijaws really believe Igbo's will allow Ijaws steal Igbo Islands and colonise our people whom the ijaws served as slave for 200yrs till date.

Bonny and Opobo being Igbo? lol Kai! Wetin I nogo see from nairaland kids. The following links depicts the traditional rulers of the acient Bonny and Opobo Kingdoms, as aknowledged by wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bonny
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opobo


The History of This two kingdoms are well documented as Ijaw Kingdoms.. Check the traditional rulers of these ancient Kingdoms if they sound igboid to you. Landlocked slaves. force attachees... See who the Call Ijaw slaves? lol. ur ancestors were caught as slaves by Ijaws and sold to the europeans. lol...

OfoIgbo:
As you have sought for my enlightenment, as a gracious G, I'll oblige you.

Keep off Opobo. The supreme court has already awarded it to the Jaja family, and they proudly associate with their Amaigbo Kith and kin, even with their Amanyanabo title.

Bonny has been rightly placed as an Ndoki territory, even with their Amanyanabo. Observations the 1700s have sealed that deal.

Nri-Igbos the real owners of the Igbo market day deities, also established the same market days for Igalas, yet Igbos don't go to claim Igala land. The same goes for Benin. We only acknowledge that ancient kinship with those civilisations.

You said nothing of the tranquility of the title among the two city states.

afonjaheadhunts:
You are the worst hit on this thread, why don't you just sit by the sideline and catch your breath before you give up the ghost.. you are dying man..

I recommend romance section for you, let us know when you have one of those your gal friend heart breaks again it might just hit front page.

Heed this advice I am trying to save a weak soul of a underwater creature.

Garbage! To the trash can it goes. Kindly do well to show me your fictitious map Oga. You think everyone is unelightened like you? Landlocked slaves

waterbrown24:
ijaw he-goat it seems u don't know the meaning of unpreprocessing in looks.go back to your dictionary and get the meaning.

savages.

Trying to appear intelligent when you're obviously the daft one. For European exploiters to acknowledge the Ijaws to be so creates a suspicion that the Ijaws were not some easy conquest. A good example is King Koko of nembe. Nevertheless, you think a historial description of Europeans defines us? You think we are slaves like your types that seeks validation from your masters? spits.

sageb:
Binaowei, in the spirit of celebrating the comrade's birthday, should I send my aza, so I will celebrate also. okubo fa oooo

maybe some other time

DubaiLandLord:
Some of this guys are just dumb. He feels Igbo land have access to the sea because of one river in Abia state how can people be this daft

Niger Republic fit start to dey follow Nigeria drag soon be that, say dem get access to the sea because of River Niger

I don't know why is so hard for them to accept the fact that Igbo land is land lock.

Like ehn. writing romantic histories to suit their deluded mind, forgeting reality.

DubaiLandLord:
Shut up guy. You Igbos are not different from Fulanis.

Forced attachees

Nigercity:
lolz
oya use that one Nd console yourself


anyway the last I checked the map azumiri is border to south by Atlantic oceans
check your Nigeria map well Rivers has no land boundaries with Akwa-ibom,
also the last time I checked azumiri proposed Port is more closer to Atlantic ocean than pH port and other ports in Nigeria

You're still running around Oga. You may do well to show me the map directly.

Eastlink:
Why won't Oru mean god in Ijaw when you worshipped the ancient Oru who you met in the territory you settled. Oru are humans that you Ijaws gave godlike attributes.

1. Oru/Olu has different meanings in Igbo language.

2. The incantations, mask, masquerades of the Oru are all Igbotic.

3. Owu which you Ijaws termed Owu-Ogbo is Igbo. The Oru’s of Oguta founded this festival that you Ijaws borrowed.

4. Oru might mean ancient in your language which is a pointer that you met people in the place you now call Ijawland.

5. The ancient Oru had to settle permanently in the area now called Ndokwa/Oguta/Ndoni/Oru/Olumbanasa because the likes of the Benin, Igala and you Ijaws were always migrating into their communities.

Can one be more daft?

OfoIgbo:
I have deleted quite a good chunk of what you wrote so as to make it easier for you to spot some of your statements that I have bolded for further inspection, and to point out some of your perspectives that will not stand the inquest of logic.

I noticed you complained of the OPs "ijawphobia", but then went ahead to write something that should be seen as ndoki-phobia with regards to the ownership of Bonny.
I also realise that your moniker is ChinenyeN, which has an Igbo base, but your writing suggests you are Ijaw with an Ijaw bias on the issues, especially as you backed Ijaw standpoints on 50-50 situations without any hard facts, some of which I will point out in the paragraphs below.

In the first bolded statement, you averred that Umueze-Ndoki people came from either Benin or central Ijaw. Don't expect that such statements can be taken at its face value, because further examination of this standpoint is required. If Umueze people came from central Ijaw, there MUST be some deities/shrines that this Umueze people must have in common with Ijaw people, and those shrines MUST have Ijaw names.
You have to know that Africans are extremely tribal, and in those days before Christianity, cultural breadcrumbs will be strewn all over the place to point to the fact that there is evidence that suggests father-son relationship between Ijaws and Umueze-Ndokis.
Such claims cannot be made in a vaccuum and you expect me to believe it without hard facts. Hearsay can't cut it, in this sort of statement.
Already, I know the word UMUEZE is clearly Igbo, but perhaps heavy cultural similarities like common deities can help sway this argument the Ijaw way. The absence of any such major cultural links, invariably means Umueze people are NOT of Ijaw descent, and are clearly Igbo.
Such a deity MUST be revered by all and sundry of the Umueze community, and not by an element of a stranger community within Umueze, and MUST have an Ijaw name.

I am an Nri person so I know what to look out for. Snippets from Alagoa's work won't be enough

In the second bolded statement, you claimed that Umueze people arrived Bonny in the company of some Ijaw people. Here is yet another wild statement meant to whittle down Ndoki's well acclaimed first settler achievements. Are these Ijaws being led by these group of Ndokis? What shrines/deities did they establish at Bonny on arrival? How come earlier Europeans sailors, who can be described as neutral, claim that Bonny was first peopled by the Igbos, and that the ruling family was of Igbo descent? Do you think Ijaws would have allowed Igbos to be their traditional rulers, without a war of conquest?

Observations made in the 1790s and published in 1830 in the first book ever written about Bonny, clearly made it obvious that Igbos settled first, and that the royal family was of Igbo descent.
You really have to dig deeper to come up with details to expunge the facts already established by NEUTRAL OBSERVERS, when Bonny was still relatively in its formative years (1790s) in the first book ever written about Bonny

Romanric historians. I laugh at you sha. Bonny Traditional Royal Tittle is Amayanabo, like their other Ijaw brothers in Opobo, Okrika and Bayelsa.. How about you enlighten me on that too. You are here citing books of 17th century, while the actual history of the Kingdom predates 17th century. The good news is that, Bonny's Kingship is hereditary. So you see, romantic historians like yourselfs has nothing to twist.

Nigercity:
I guess the azumiri empties at your house?

That's the best you've got. No facts. landlocked slaves..

waterbrown24:
the ijaws had no history, neither could they boast of any explicit artefacts like Igbo ukwu e.t.c in Igbo land they were anatomy of apes whose cognitive brain cells could be likened with that of a baby camel...the Igbos gave them their identity today e.g Jaja and oko jumbo.
cc AdakaBoro8:

You think we are to dumb like your race to allow some western historians define our traits? nigga! u r daft I swear. So because some colonist from Europe acknowledges me to be rude u think I should be timid about my stance?
nigga I am proud for them to even account my race as such. Its a clear indication that we werw not timid or cowards like your race. Jaja is a good example, King Koko of nembe is another good example..

Nwanyiogwashi:
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I don't why ijaw people with no human capital want to teach Ada Anioma like me history of Delta state.

Tinubu is from osun state but govern Lagos state,does that make Tinubu a lagosan?
Governor Okowa appoint some other Of his P.As from other tribes aside Delta too.

Ijaw start and end in 8 local government of bayelsa state.

Just like I expected! Hatred as consumed your sanity. If you're so inclined to your views to the extent that truth and justice becomes second considerations to you, then you're a big fool. and ur level of education or civilazation doesn't matter. Deep down you know you're a fool if that's the best counter-argument you've got to offer. Biko Scram! It was even a mistake to engage a tribal fool like you. like how can one be so fanatical to the extent of denying obvious facts! God! Go and tell your parents what you have just said here. or better still, give me your facebook I.D, let me screenshot this your comment and submit it on your timeline.. Biggest Disgrace of all Deltans. I can never believe you're from my Delta. stop disgracing my Anioma people.. spits! biko don't engage me again. your type disgusts me.

NigeriaIsZOO:
You were asking someone how sound he is, as if you're intellectually sound yourself.
I was almost thinking you were some intellectual Wizkid until you wrote this nonsense above.

What do you mean by Abia belonging to Oil Niger Delta and not geographical Niger Delta? Are you sure you have ever studied a map of Nigeria before?

Now let me enlighten you, Abia and Imo States are geographically Niger Delta than states like Cross River and Edo!

Niger Delta in the geographical and real sense include basically the areas around the watershed tributeries of river Niger before empying into the Atlantic ocean. So, in essence, the areas that make up Niger Delta is Rivers, Bayelsa, Imo, Abia, Akwa Ibom and southern Delta State.

Does any of the Igbo states empties water into the atlantic ocean?

Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=AdakaBoro8 post=100867760]u, cocaine don kukuma spoil yur brain sef.[/s][s][/s]

Truth is bitter Mister man ijaw start and end in 8 local government of bayelsa state, full stop
I know that you people will soon claim Anioma as ijaw but that will be your end soon

Nigeria is the reason why everybody is keeping clam with your expansion mentality.

You have a lot of fight to fight once Nigeria break up, from Itsekiri to urhobo,Bini,Yoruba, ikwerre ,akwa ibom to igbo

You are just as myopic as I thought. You can't claim to be from Delta state.. You're restricting the Ijaws to just Bayelsa. Now, who is your deputy governor? the number 2 citizen of Delta state - where is he from?

Nigercity:
Lolz
Oga you seriously Skiped geography classes
That's why you imagination keeps
Telling you fake things
Like Ndoki is close to ijaw lolz..
And other funny stuff

Don't tell me
You don't Know azumiri
(The backyard of Aba)
Or you don't Know why ABIA is in nigerdelta
Now tell me
is there any land border between Akwa-ibom and River State!
Always be friendly with your maps before speaking trash,

Azumiri is even closer to the sea
Than pH port
School yourself with goggle map sir

Which Sea? Abia is part of the Oil Niger Delta and not the geographical Niger Delta.