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ArabicBerber:
Explore Cairo The Wealthiest & Most developed City in both North & East Africa.

You're understating it, it's the wealthiest African city outside South Africa.

But as for developed, I'm not quite sure. We have Algiers, Oran, Rabat and Casablanca in NA and Port Louis in Mauritius, Eastern Africa with a better infra and social amenities access relative to population

68816419:
He is only showing us a very tiny nice parts of Nairobi CBD , an area where most of the Governmental functions are held.

The first admittance. There are nice parts in the CBD, albeit tiny in that the CBD occupies a tiny portion of Nairobi

Which I agree. Going by global standards, the CBD as substended is perhaps the only district with high calibre street level views. That's if we ignore the rich residential areas which are exclusive for the filthy rich. Upper mid income areas, while well zoned and built still feature broken side walks and lack of proper landscaping.

Now if we go by our somewhat lofty continental standards, the CBD and upper mid-income areas are quite good at street level. These are upper mid-income places include Langata, South B, South C, Buruburu, Madaraka, Nairobi West, Southlands, Gumo, Komarock, UMI parts of donholm and Highrise.

Vlain:
No noise started emanating when u started posting deceptive images out of desperation and even went as far as saying broad street is the best of which I came in to refute and also letting u to be aware that we see ur visual fraudulence.

Oh, ok. So you should tell google that their GSV pics are deceptive then.

You ask for pics. You get some clear one's, they're photo-edited. You get GSV, they're deceptive. I doubt we are here to satisfy your ever shifting goal posts.

The Nairobi pics are also old, before NMS upgrades kicked in. Yet they're still good.

Just30:
why do I have to go and refer to your dumb post when it is already here for everybody to see how quick you shifted your argument.?


No one has taken your post out of context, you are still referring to the same nonsense that we've told you it doesn't exist.

We've told you you cant refer to Abbey and Oxford streets as best street in London because every single street is best in London.


After we called you out on it, that was when you decided to Qualify it by adding shopping which wasn't also true.


all this noise you are making wont change those facts

In which world did you here of every variable being the best? Every street in London is the best street in London is the most weird sentence I've seen here. So Abby street is just about the same calibre as that small residential alley street.

And what did I post that doesn't exist? Everything I've posted is in existence. Google is your friend.

So it isn't true that Oxford street has an unrivalled shopping experience of all streets in London with over 300 outlets. Ok, I see.

Noise started emanating from those who felt greyed by the GSV of Muindi Mbingu street vs those of Broad street and were so quick to claim broad street isn't among the best streets in Lagos. When asked which streets are then first diversion was that Lagos is too large, then there's nothing like best streets, then I said best street not streets etc. Now that's noise that aims to divert from the obvious.

Vlain:
Firstly thats ur personal problem
Secondythsts also ur personal problem
Thirdly what is the special thing Oxford offers that other district doesn’t.lol
And lastly u will keeping waiting for that list till infinity instead of consuming my raw video unedited footages and street pics. I can’t reduce mighty Lagos to a mere grocery list there are so many better street that it’s is so hard to mention one since it would make an even better street somewhere bad. Just consume the vids and pics and shut up. U have no point to make.

Haha, fascinating.

Troll on then, the discussion on how good unedited street view pics of Lagos and Nairobi are is all but over.

Just30:
You specifically made your argument about Oxford, stop contradicting yourself just to justify a nonsense.



there is nothing like a Best street or best streets in London and like none in Germany.

Misquotes, misquotes, misquotes. I've noticed how you've avoided referring to the post outlining the entire conversation like the plague. And you're also trying to take my post on Oxford completely out of context so as to further you erroneous stand.

I listed Oxford and Abbey in London as well as an etc to show that there are others. So someone chose not to see Abbey or the etc and focussed on Oxford, saying it had nothing to offer that other streets and shopping districts don't. So I had to reply by expounding on why Oxford is among these premier streets.

So how on earth is that making my argument about Oxford. You guys want to force some statement I did not make, not gonna happen

Vlain:
Then why then did u post something that doesn’t exist. Since u of own it’s not updated why did u post it to drive home some silly point just for cheap scores.


This was ur quote a few pages back.

So the ones from Kenya are current but not those from Lagos? It isn't a wonder why we keep seeing aerials and building pics for Lagos.

Exactly. After you said the Lagos ones are outdated but didn't say the same regarding the Kenyan ones.

So in your mind does that statement you bolded mean they are all up to date?

Just30:
There is nothing like best street in London because all their streets are the same and good.

Kenyans are so fast to divert convo.

you got called out on everything you were saying because they were out of your imagination and that is why you jumped over to shopping.

Now you're like a broken record. Again, it is best streets, not best street. A simple google will guide you.

Vlain:
Exactly. They are always all over the place not making a single point in the end. Right before our very eye he moved from best street (in his context at this point he meant roads) to best shopping experience. Smh!!! Stupid things.

You're trying hard to make a relevant point out of an irrelevant lump of content. Can't happen.

To begin with we don't have a common Kenyan central processing area where we discuss what and how to argue or post. I'm not the Nobody, Nobody isn't Gallivant, Gallivant isn't Wuoche etc.

Second. Go back one page and see who has diverted from what was begin discussed.

Third. I went to shopping experience with regards to Oxford because all streets in London have sufficient infrastructure and amenities and I even said it. To stand out, they must offer something else. But of course, you want to act as though that's not what I was saying so you believe what make you happy.

Fourth. I'm still waiting on the list of upmarket streets in Lagos, whichever way you understand it, bring names or let it to rest as is

Vlain:
Afrocircus since u claim both Nairobi and Lagos images are updated by google. I hope u don’t mind sharing NMS pedestrian lane in ur google images.

Viewers watch the space on how the idiot will fumble or remain silent what a desperate fraud.

You're at it again. Pray tell, just where did I say images for both Lagos and Nairobi are updated?

Just30:
You said it is the best street in London and we all called you out.


2. That is what you implied when you call Oxford the best street in London.
That's why we told you it was not the best street and that there were so many streets in London that were even better than it.
Then you decided to move the convoy from the street to shopping when you realised there was no way you could call Oxford the best street in London.

And we called you out on that too by telling you that there where so many streets that you could find even more than what exist at Oxford.


One thing about you kenyan is, you make arguments and forget the arguments you are making.
Then later on change your tongue and confuse yourselves

Is that so? Lemme quote myself and see who's engaging in sophistry here

To begin with, the person who claimed lagos has no best street, this is what is asked and is what started this diverstion

AfroCircus:
Last I was there, that's what I was made to believe.

Then which streets are the best in Lagos, give us names

Now with regards to me saying Oxford is the best street in London, here's exactly what I said

AfroCircus:
Whataboutism is your specialty.

Every city has it's best streets. London has Oxford Street, Abbey road, etc, Berlin has Kurfürstendamm, Potsdamer Platz, etc, the much larger Shanghai has Moganshan Rd, West Nanjing Rd, etc.

If you rubbish broad street as not among the best streets in Lagos, then name your best streets, quite simple frankly

I said best streets, listed Oxford, Abbey and added an etc which means there are others in this grouping.

Then where I went specific to expound on why oxford is in this grouping, here's my post

AfroCircus:
Pure fact? Huh!

Oxford street is regarded among the very best of London's streets because it offer an unrivaled shopping experience in terms of range of products available as well as outlets diversity. That plus it's pedestrian friendly with bans on private cars as well as very low speed limits.

To an outsider not used to experiencing life in a developed place, it looks like any other London street in that they're all clean and have every infra and social amenity a street may need.

Among the very best is the bolded part. It is one of the very best, not the very best.

So back to you, what were you calling me out on that I appeared to not have uttered? Hence why I said you and Vlain misquoted me and stuck to your misquotes.

leQubit:
So can we all agree to post on Kenya vs SA if other africans countries are dead...cos based on what am seen here all the other negroes are smooching SA tofeelgood..guys grow some nuts

Nah. Even I know that Nairobi can't compete with what is there in Sandton and parts of Capetown. Even bankcity in SA looks outstanding.

Vlain:
U are even confused to begin with- u dont even know what u want to argue about.

Vlain:
Yeah u lost ur argument urself. U are ashamed .


Now let’s enjoy a drive through this street in Ikoyi . I don’t t call this best cos I have seen better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9wQKXdDXY

Vlain:
I couldn’t agree more

Interesting that you couldn't even wait for long to prove me right. You're asked for something, you divert the story and best around the bush for long enough until the subject matter changes. Then you jump head first onto the new bandwagon.

Again, what are these streets you claim are among the best in Lagos since you rubbished Broad street. Give us names and we'll look them up. If not, then the discussion can be summarized as Lagos has terrible streets compared to Nairobi. Simple

Just30:
There are too many good streets in London

Saying Oxford street is the best is like saying all the others are bad, which is not true.

Whatever is on Oxford street can be found anywhere else in London.

what ever you find on Oxford street, you will find on Bond street.
Bond street is even more Luxurious than Oxford street because that is where you will find all the luxury brands

You and that Vlain guy like misquoting people and sticking to it.

1- I said among the very best. You're saying it's the best, very different in meaning. Mine means it's among the top end of the spectrum. Yours means it's official, it is unchallenged as the best street in London. Very different.

2- Since when did the best mean that everything else is bad? Then what would a statement like "oxford is the only good street in London" mean?

Vlain:
Lol u are done on ur life mumu. U requested for the best and I told u we don’t have a best as far as I am concerned. U went ahead to cherry-pick places in the west and east and I asked u a simple question-what do you mean by best because anything u see in Oxford street can equally be seen anywhere ion London. The qualifying infrastructure is the same from roads to building to transport.

Yeah, go on with your bush beating tactics. No names, and we're done with the subject matter.

Just30:
Lies

Oxford street is regarded as a shopping district and is popular with shoppers.


There are many other shopping districts that are just as popular as Oxford and are even more pedestrian friendly.

And you want to compare a shopping district and a street?

Oxford is unrivalled in shopping options of all streets in London. And I never said it is the most pedestrian friendly, where did you get that from?

AfriqueDuZuid:
Nairobi

Kenyatta Avenue in terms of a busy atmosphere and accessibility from PSVs, Aga Khan walk in terms of pedestrian friendly with open street level restaurants etc and Mama Ngina street in terms of a balance between the two. Other notable one's include City-hall way, Muindi Mbingu street, Kimathi street and Moi Avenue. The last one has regressed though.

Could I ask trouble for a similar listing with regards to Jo'burg. Not competing, just would like to know.

Just30:
This is pure facts

Pure fact? Huh!

Oxford street is regarded among the very best of London's streets because it offer an unrivaled shopping experience in terms of range of products available as well as outlets diversity. That plus it's pedestrian friendly with bans on private cars as well as very low speed limits.

To an outsider not used to experiencing life in a developed place, it looks like any other London street in that they're all clean and have every infra and social amenity a street may need.

AfriqueDuZuid:
What is Kenya best road?

Now if you ask Kenya you're becoming too vague. I was city specific, and said the best streets/roads, plural

Vlain:
Best in what exactly. Tell me what u can find in Oxford street that u can’t find in the rest inner district of London. Oxford is well known for it large pedestrian shopping And busy street- perhaps u mean busy street-else whatever u seen in Oxford can be seen also in canary wharf,Camden,west minister and the likes.

Take ur tears else where-you lost the argument when u tried to play a trick- the rest now is noise and tantrums.

Beating around the bush makes you appear hapless rather than knowledgeable. You know what's been asked but want to stretch the discussion out for as long as possible until another subject is brought up. That's a game I know all too well when I see it.

Give us names, if not, then I guess we're done here

AfriqueDuZuid:
Vilakazi Street may be the most famous street in SA, but it's not the best street in SA

In SA it will be difficult to name a specific street and claim it to be best

I'm just saying

Hence why I said names, not name. Muindi Mbingu street is neither famous nor the best street in Kenya. But it is among the upmarket streets in Nairobi. I could similarly say Victoria road is among the premier roads/streets in Cape Town. That doesn't discount the likes of Waterkant Street et all, but it is among them.

Vlain:
Which upmarket street are u yapping about. Those images from google are not current and that’s just a bitter fact that u are aware of. Ur foolery is a result of ur desperation.

Uhmmm and no the drive showed inner street movement before hitting the highway.

So the ones from Kenya are current but not those from Lagos? It isn't a wonder why we keep seeing aerials and building pics for Lagos.

The drive came from 2 feeder streets that weren't quite top notch and swang onto the highway for the rest of the video. That's a highway drive, not a City Street drive

Vlain:
What rubbish!!! How would u tell me to give u the best street in Lagos. Lagos is a big metropolis, u keeping seeing better streets as u explore.

Did ur visit take u to Ikotun,vi,EAC and the rest.

Whataboutism is your specialty.

Every city has it's best streets. London has Oxford Street, Abbey road, etc, Berlin has Kurfürstendamm, Potsdamer Platz, etc, the much larger Shanghai has Moganshan Rd, West Nanjing Rd, etc.

If you rubbish broad street as not among the best streets in Lagos, then name your best streets, quite simple frankly

Vlain:
Nonsense this doesn’t represent Lagos. Go tell google update their images. We all sat here and watched videos on Lagos cbd and that sure so t what we saw in most of this street the drive through showed.

If you're talking of the video from 3 pages back, that's the main road linking MMA and Lagos Island, a highway.

Give us names of those upmarket streets in Lagos and we'll look em up

Vlain:
Hell nah

Last I was there, that's what I was made to believe.

Then which streets are the best in Lagos, give us names

Just30:
yes they can

France is picking certain part of it cities to remove them and likewise Barcelona slowly reclaiming it roads and give the space back to the neighborhood.

You don't need bike lanes when there are no cars on the street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2yd4QgL5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZORzsubQA_M

The bold part earmarks my point, certain parts. So what happens with the rest of the city where cars can go willy-nilly? Then the French policy bans cars from half the city-center on Friday's, so what happens during the rest of the week?

It's only a small portion of the French capital that's permanently car free. In fact, the largest car free zone in Europe is just a small portion around the Brussels' city square, its stock exchange, and Rue Neuve avenue.

Hence why bike lanes are important throughout the cities.

Just30:
You don't need a bike lane before you bike, especially when cars have been taken off city center roads

Cars can't be completely taken off the streets, that would make things like shopping quite cumbersome.

Hence why we need bike lanes.

More of South C, tell me if it passes for a slum in Lagos

South C is even more sleek, 8.5km from the CBD

Then someone claimed South B and South C are like slums in Nigeria. Their street level pics are a match for lagos Island infrastructure, albeit with much smaller buildings and businesses.


South B shopping Center, 6km from the CBD

Then going to even much smaller and insignificant streets;

Mfangano street, a feeder to Ronald Ngala, which feeds Tom Mboya. It's located in the interior of downtown, or as called out before, area "behind archives".

And Below it is Sheikh Karume road, deep in that area "behind Archives" and too small & insignificant to be labeled a street. It's a feeder to Mfangano, which feeds Ronald Ngala, which in turn feeds Tom Mboya

Ronald Ngala street, a feeder to Tom Mboya above