I am still waiting for the answer to the question I asked, I don't care about what the Palestinian Christians or Muslims thinks, let's dive into history.
vowiski: Israel defense budget for 2024 is around $155 billion while Iran’s defense budget is around $20 billion.
Russia’s economy has been depleted by sanctions, can’t even compete with Israel’s military.
IDF will completely annihilate Iran without the help of the US.
When I see people shouting Russia, I can only laugh at their ignorance
They can’t do simple research .. Americas defense budget is over a trillion dollars .. Do you think that money is for eating KFC ?
Other noise making nations have been showing off their weapons, .The day the US will reveal their weapons, the whole world will shiver.
True talk, but make we pray for peace.
Nevertheless, I want the Iranian Nuclear sites should be completely turned to dust that will never be useful for anything without the waste of human lives.
Empiree: why do you think I should continue arguing with you after saying this?. This is end of discussion right here if you believe they are Israelites when they themselves know they are not, but a African fellow thinks he knows them more than them?. Case closed body.
hahahaha..... Was Jesus, Mary an Arab, where's their place of birth, let us start from there, I bet you, we shall all come to an agreement.
Also Respond to my question.
Are the Arabs now living in Gaza the ancient people of that area.
Can you give me 3,000 years history of an Arab living in Gaza.
Empiree: There is no need too digress to long. Are the current people occupying Palestine are Israelites?
Yes Sir, they're the Israelites...
Are the current Arabs occupying an area called Gaza today, are they the original Philistine of the ancient time or they are just occupying people's Land?
sbibi: Sentiment or not, Israel is one of the most protected countries of the world. The country is heavily guided from me immemorial. Coupled with the west support
Empiree: do you realize this event took place before Jesus?. The same way they were victorious over the Canaanites before Jesus was the same way they were destroyed after in 70AD by Romans after Jesus and they lost it.
So are you telling me they will make heaven without believing Jesus?. The reason they were destroyed by Roman army was because of their rejection of Jesus and attempted to kill him and they lost the land forever. So verses you are quoting were before Jesus not after him.
Hahahaha...
The question was about if the Israelites enter into the promise land, stop beating about the bush.
Yes, they did entered the promise land, the descendants of Joshua and that of Caleb, as many of them died in the dessert. Numbers 14:30-31
Joshua 11:23 Joshua took over all the Land and gave it for inheritance unto the children of Israel.
Again, yes! The children of Israel took over the promise land and they're still there (on the land) as we speak.
Empiree: Joshua chapter vs 7 clearly shows the conditions stand. It told them to uphold the laws, did they?. These verses you brought as evidence are stale. Jesus came after Moses and Joshua. Part of the laws they were told to uphold was to accept Jesus but they rejected him. Thereafter, they were destroyed in 70AD by Romans. The conditions stand till now. If you insist, I will ask you, are these Israelis holding on to the conditions right now?. Do they even believe in all 10 commandments right now?. I guess no.
However, QUR'AN predicted their return to the land but this prediction doesn't signal good news. It signals their return to set them up for eternal punishment . The best for them is to stay the heck away from the land because it is not safe at all.. Some Jews know this facts
Hahaha... Funny you.
It never stand because God pardoned (forgave) them.
And Joshua in verse 16 of that same chapter gave the people the law and commandments of God, the people response to Joshua that THEY WILL OBEY ALL THAT GOD HAS COMMAND THEM AND DO THEM...
They were victorious over the cannanite and took over the land and from that time till today, the Jews still possesses their God given Land, and great Jewish prophets came out from them.
Empiree: like I knew you would say this. This was just a tip of iceberg. I got more.
My question still remain. Show is where God said in the Bible and Quran that conditions given to them were nullified?.
What you don't understand is, anytime they violated the conditions they were destroyed. These verses I quoted are talking about the first time they were given the land. There are more
Good question!
Actually, the condition given to them was nullified. Because of the Mercy of God.
Read Numbers 14:13-19 Moses pleaded with God for God's mercy for his people...
Numbers 14:20 God PARDONED the people according to the word of moses... (Therefore, condition nullified)
Joshua chapter 1-24 Moses died and Joshua took over and led the Israelites into Israel.
The Jews have since been living in the land of Israel from that time till date.
Empiree: Try to learn how to lie better next time. Did you read the next verses after it also?
Had they been obedient, it would have been theirs
But they disobeyed
Two obedient men tried to guide them
But they still disobeyed
So Moses (A.S) sought refuge from the disobedient people
And then Israel became forbidden for them for 40 years and the disobedient ones regretted their decision a lot. You may read comprehensively on the screenshots below.
Bible also said something similar that the holy Land is not eternal homeland for the Jews.
Did God give Israel the Promised Land for all time (Deuteronomy 4:40)?
In Deuteronomy 4:40 the Lord gave the Israelites this command: “Keep his decrees and commands, which I am giving you today, so that it may go well with you and your children after you and that you may live long in the land the Lord your God gives you for all time.” Does this mean God gave Israel the Promised Land in perpetuity?
This passage contains a conditional offer. Israel would have the Promised Land as they kept God’s “decrees and commands.” The Israelites had to obey God’s statutes in order to remain in the land. History reveals that the Israelites often disobeyed...
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The conditions mentioned in the Bible are also mentioned in the Quran. The conditions are ETERNAL. Anytime they violated the conditions God evicted them from holy Land. The old Israel you are talking about has been destroyed and the Israelites are forbidden from returning to the land to reclaim it as their own till the end of time.
Hahahaha....
Look at who is talking of lie!!!
They where only forbidden from entering for forty years after which they eventually entered. read sura 5:26
that's why all the prophet came from Israel and are Jews.
DeepThroater: It Did Not Start On October 7th: Jewish Terrorism On Palestinians
Israel’s secretive intelligence service, MOSSAD’s motto is, “By Way of Deception Thou Shalt Do War.” Yet the true Torah states,
Deceit is in the heart of them that devise evil; but to the counsellors of peace is joy. Proverbs 12:20-21
Since its inception by the UN Decree of 1947, Israel has not known peace. It’s history is riddled full of unjust violence. For example from the book, The Synagogue of Satan, The Secret History Jewish World Domination by Andrew C. Hitchcock: Richard Catling states,
[b] 1948: In the early hours of April 19th, 132 Jewish terrorists from the Irgun gang, led by future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, and the Stern gang, led by future Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, brutally massacred 200 men, women and children as they are sleeping peacefully in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. In an effort to prevent outside observers discovering the brutality of their war crimes, they try to burn some of the bodies, but when that proves unsatisfactory, they stuff some in a well to hide them from the Red Cross representatives who arrive on the scene the next day and would subsequently tell the world.
Indeed reports from survivors can be found in the, “Report of the Criminal Investigation Division,” a Palestine Government Document labelled, No. 179/110/17/GS dated April 13th, 15th, and 16th, 1948, in which British interrogating officer, Assistant Inspector General Richard Catling states,
“The recording of statements is hampered also by the hysterical state of the women, who often break down many times, whilst the statement is being recorded. There is, however, no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews. Many young school girls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested. One story is current concerning a case in which a young girl was literally torn in two. Many infants were butchered and killed. I also saw one old woman who gave her age as 104, who had been severely beaten about the head with rifle butts. Women had bracelets torn from their arms and rings from their fingers, and parts of some women’s ears were severed in order to remove ear-rings.” [/b]
The Nakbas continue 76 years later, now climaxing with the unnecessary near complete destruction of all Gaza habitation, the homes and communities of 2.5 million Palestinians. Even historic sites and cemetaries were not spared. This was land to remain Palestinian under the UN Decree commensing 1948. If this was not enough, now Israel is now resorting to starving the Palestinians, its cruelty extending even to murdering those who sought out the sparse food aid released by the IDF.
Official government statistics are highly inaccurate. Realistic estimates of the dead now exceed 200 thousand. Sufficient evidence has surfaced through various on-line credible testimonies and video footage released before suppression, that it was the IDF who did most of the October 7, 2023 death and destruction. Although various governments to include Israel and its satellites the US, UK, and etc., have initiated oxymoronic punitive threats toward those “denying the official Israeli narrative” under various hate crime statutes as “anti-Semitic.” This is oxymoronic as the Palestinians are Semites and the Israelis are not – read Shlomo Sands’ “Invention of the Jewish People“, Arthur Koestler’s “The 13th Tribe“, Paul Wexler’s “The Non-Jewish Origins of the Sephardic Jews.”)
Yet still the truth prevails.
These are not actions of a normal people. Then to add insult to injury, its voices of leadership, both government officials and its mainstream media now resort to nuclear arms threats if it does not get its way. Regarding the wicked, does not this not aptly describe them?
His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and oppression; under his tongue is mischief and iniquity. He sitteth in the lurking-places of the villages; in secret places doth he slay the innocent; his eyes are on the watch for the helpless. He lieth in wait in a secret place as a lion in his lair, he lieth in wait to catch the poor; he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him up in his net. He croucheth, he boweth down, and the helpless fall into his mighty claws. He hath said in his heart: ‘God hath forgotten; He hideth His face; He will never see.‘ Psalms 10:7-11 (JPS)
Yet, God has seen.
Woe to them that devise iniquity and work evil upon their beds! When the morning is light, they execute it, because it is in the power of their hand. And they covet fields, and seize them; and houses, and take them away; thus they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage. Therefore thus saith HaShem: Behold, against this family do I devise an evil, from which ye shall not remove your necks, neither shall ye walk upright; for it shall be an evil time. Micah 2:1-3 .
Hahahaha... You're just very funny...
Israel didn't began in 1948 and the many wars of Israel did not start in 1948.
Even Prophet David who is also a Jew fought wars in defense of Israel and won.
Israel will continue to WIN
Even Quran Sura 5:21-24 the Islamic God admitted given the land of Israel to Moses and his people who are also Jews.
Israel have been fighting wars for over 5,000 years now and continue to win, what is 1948 as if Israel began existence in 1948.
Israel that is the Headquarters of Homosexuality and Alcoholism is the Christian God's Home. No wonder the Pope also approved Gayism and Lesbianism in Church. It is Finished.
This is what the LORD says: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be? Isaiah 66:1
The heaven and the earth is the house of God, Israel is too small for Him, but note; the Jews are the chosen of God and God loves them very well.
Even the Islamic god said he preferred the Jews over the world. Sura 2:47
Any jew can decide to be a gay or do whatever he or she likes, but at the end of the day God will judge all.
There are gays in Saudi Arabia, in fact, one of the Crown Price is a gay and Alcoholic beverages are now being approved to be sold in Saudi.
God does not need a house to dwell in, His Spirit dwells with the righteous....
Watianoengineer: Bastard man killing innocent Muslims. I pray almighty Allah vindicate Palestine and give them strength to conquer Isreal. Isreal must be conquered for peace to return to the middle east
What do the innocent Muslims did to the Jewish people on Oct 7?
Quran 5:21-24 admit the land of Israel belong to the Jews...
Therefore, its a death sentence for those who want to fight the Jews in their land.
Even your god Allah said he PREFERRED THE JEWS OVER THE WORLD.
Hamas attacked Israel on Oct 7th 2023, killing over 1,200 Israeli and took over 250 persons hostage from Israel.
On the evening of 27 October 2023, Israel launched a large-scale invasion of the Gaza Strip, with the stated goals of eliminating and destroying Hamas, a military and political movement which led an attack against Israel earlier in October, and to free hostages taken by Hamas according to Wikipedia.
Qatar is reportedly threatened to expel the leader of Hamas who have been living in Qatar if a deal is not reached.
Botragelad: I can't fathom what the Houthi terrorists hope to achieve by targeting innocent vessels that has nothing to do with the US or Israel.
This is nothing but a bloody terror attack and when the US gives them a blowback you get their supporters on here slagging off the US. Mind you, this won't stop ISRAEL from wiping out Hamas.
You're right...
I just hope they won't start crying free houthi when they finally get what they are looking for.
Nvestor02: Ever since the bible days, The terrorist Jews has been stealing, Fighting and killing people for land.
If you allow them to settle in your place... They will soon claim that God has given your land to them and try to overturn the history in the name of their imaginary God.
We need a new planet when there will be no most powerful country or race.... A planet where everyone will be equal.
God himself destroy this planet in the first place According to bible, when he said the so called Israel is superior. ( Anyway sha, I stopped believing this nonsense when I stopped being a Christian)
This is the reason why I don't really blame hamas, you cannot beat people and don't want them to cry. You keep stealing Palestinians land everyday.
Build illegal house in the west bank that everybody recognized as Palestinians land..... When you know that this will invoke the Palestinians to fight back in protection of their land.
When they fight back like this.... You will call it terrorism, kill more of them and take more land. (They are recycling this nonsense for almost 100 years now.)
If I'm a Palestinians, I'm sure I would have die by now.... Because I will never live and watch some people taking over our land.
Palestinians has every right to exist... Israel can only delay it.... They cannot deny it.
Are you a Muslim?
Because even Allah, the Islamic god said in the Quran he prefare the Jews over the World.
Allah again admit giving the land to the Jews in your Quran,,,,
So what is your argument about?
Allah, according to Sura 5:21-24 told Moses a Jew to take the land and possessed it and never mind afraid!!!
1. Yes, those you’re calling Arab settlers are real son of the soil. They’re not Arab, but being under Ottoman Empire for hundreds of year change their cultural way, Language and believe. The same way with China,Egypt, France, Latin etc. Read about Nabataean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataean_Aramaic ) and also read about language shift https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_shift
2. You call it Muslim civil war, according to historian, around 7th and 8th century is when Islamic gospel started and were widely spread. But remember, even during the time of Jesus, Palestinian/ Jerusalem inhabitants were under Roman Empire, Roshidun Caliphate gained control of Palestine Jerusalem from Roman. Though some Jew left but majority continue to live under Islamic rule.
3. Note, Israel was not a geographical location but it refer to descendants of Jacob. If you’re claiming the inhabitants of Palestine/Jerusalem were “Israel that are 100% Jew” then who are those they met at that location? Also who are the Christian that follow Jesus. Can we still call them Jew? Even after believe and accept Jesus. Truly believers among them were follow Torah (which it refer to as Jew book) But when Jesus came with another Holy book, some believe and follow him while some are still claiming Torah. Likewise is the case when the gospel of Islam reached them, many accept Islam, some remains Christians while some still remain Jew.
Maybe I will answer your questions of when Israel of 100% Jew were not 100% anymore as;
It's when Jesus came with Christianity gospel while some believe and follow his teachings and other still claiming to be Jew. Even before Islam, inhabitants of Palestine/Jerusalem were not 100% Jew
No Jewish changed his/her culture to that of the Arab settlers.
The Jews still maintained their culture till today. That was why I asked you, at what point did Jews denied being Jews and claimed to be Arab? Because the Arab settlers are also not claiming Jewish.
Muslims did just entered Israel to preach what you called "the gospel of Islam".
You know, it was by the sword Salah al-Din Yusuf ibin Ayyub Sultan of Egypt and Syria invaded Israel in 1187 to claim the land long before Othman.
You don't snatch people land that why, they will always regroup and fight back.
Even your Quran in Sura 5:21-24 admit the promise land was given to Moses, and Moses was a Jew, a Levi by tribe.
Arabs are just squatting in Israel.
Since they have decided to fight their host, their population will keep diminishing in Israel.
Note Arab settlers did not replace the people living in Palestine/Jerusalem (you call it today Isreal) but as time pass Palestine/Jerusalem ruling fell under control of different Empires (like Roman, abysyria, Ottoman) before Britain came to colonized them. For majority of periods it's under Ottoman Empire which make majority of them to embrace Islamic culture, lannguage, appearance and religion. But they have their linage trace to David, Solomon and other prophets that has come. Not all Palestines are Muslims, some are Jews and some are Christians but majority of them are Muslim.
To explain better understand how possible people living in Jerusalem/Palestine can become Muslim against remain as Jews. The rulers always impact way of life of his subjects particularly in those stone age. For example in Africa/Nigeria, majority are idol worshipers before European came to colonized, nowadays majority of people claimed to be Christian or Muslim, even some are still engage in pagan practice.
Palestinians are called Arab only for political categorization like they call Morocco, Egypt, Malaysian, Tunisia Arab. Even some still call Niger, Mali, Senegal, Suddan even Hausa/Fulani Arab. They are not Arab it's just that they have embrace the Arab culture and religion. Like some Christians will call theirself Zionist, Israelits.
Another example, Northern Nigeria was occupied by certain groups of people before encouter with Mali traders and in flow of Fulani whose conquer and rule the land. By there ruling majority of northerner are now Muslims but not all even North Nigeria has diversity of culture, many languages (apart from Hausa), and religions. But many always regards Northerners as Hausa or Muslim which they not
You can still research more for better clarity
Hahahaha... Very interesting...
Are you saying the Arab settlers in Israel today are actually Jews now?
if so, what was the purpose of the Muslim civil war of the 8th and 9th century to push Jews out Israel for?
Was it just to erased the Jewish history from the promise land and to replaced with that of the invader who you claimed are the new Jews?
Lastly, at what point did the nation of Israel that was 100% Jewish convert to be Arabs and denied being Jew?
Thanks my brother, killing people and destroying their properties is Evil. This evil of killing started when British allocate 55% of Palestinian land to settlers, those claims to be today’s Isreal.
Isreal is not a country name but 11 sons of Jacob, (we all know how they move to Egypt later to today’s Palestinian land), after they conquer the land Isreal were living together with those they met in the land without segregation. Generation upon generation has come and go, prophet upon prophet (from David to Solomon, John baptize, Jesus) has come and go. Many people migrate for one reason to other, so it is for people living in Jerusalem/Palestine then. Butt notable causes of migration of some set of people due to Roman ruling of the land and latter Ottoman ruling. Some set of people not all move out of the land to live across the Europe (Germany, France, America). After over thousand years, when Hittler of Germany started treating them bad (which later leads to First World War) a group Zionist was formed for Europeans Jews seeking support of England and World power bloc to allow them settled back in Palestine. But due to numbers of years, these Zionist and Palestinian people do not have anything in common (range in language, culture, mode of worship). British settle them in Palestine, first as IDP for WW1, later more Zionist migrated to Palestine to form their country with help of British and world power bloc. Since then they keep killing and take the land from their Palestinian host.
You can read more on Wikipedia, instead of listening to rubbish some Ignorant are saying. I also learnt more of it from research
Now, the questions I want to ask you is, you just said Prophet has come and gone in Isreal, but where are the great great great grand children of these prophet today?
Was Israel empty when the Arab settlers came into Israel?
If Israel was not empty what was the population of Jews in Israel against Arab before it was declared a country in 1948.
Palestine is isreal, Judea and samaria combined Israel now is fake and have no dna connection with that land. They are designed zionist Israel. Artifical israel an American design.A classic terrorist organization. Master minds of world trade center attacks . Infact dna test is banned in Israel they are all from europe. Albert Einstein even said he is not a party to such design and never accepted to be their first president. Educate yourself before you judge don't follow crowd
Hahahaha... Palestine actually never existed, Palestine is just and imagination of some people, only what exists was Israel...
Give me two thousand years history of Arabs living in a land called Palestine?
Is Jesus, Moses, David, Solomon are those historical figures Arabs or Jews and where did they come from?
Let me clear your ignorance using whatever historical sources you believe in.
The Holy Bible and the Qur'an admitted Israel belong to the Jews and i will walk you through many of the verses.
Give me two thousand years history of Israel belongings to Israel and not Jews.
What's biblical in supporting Evil? Please try to do a little research on background knowledge of Israel-Palestine war, not just reference bible anyhow
God1000: Very sad, may his soul rest in peace and may God forgive his sins.
He died a hero no matter what anyone says about him and he died fighting for the freedom of Palestinians.
He sent a powerful message to Israel and his country USA.
I'm not surprised that some nigerians in their usual characteristic manners are making sadistic comments insulting him, may God have mercy on you people.
UP HAMAS UP HOUTHI UP HEZBOLLAH UP IRAN UP PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Palestine will definitely be liberated from Hamas Terrorist , but the Land of Israel belong to the Jews and no inch of that land will ever be taken again...
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