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mufutau55:
Thank you... inserting price range, now speaks louder. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Lol ok Sir

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allhavesinned:
Bro, long time, hope good and how I fit get the chandelier booklet to enable me choose, meanwhile

Kindly send your email or send me a message on WhatsApp. I can't seem to find our previous conversation.

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mufutau55:
I... but I know it's not easy to maintain with all thris beautiful stocks being introduced.

Hajji M.

Very Very Veeeery difficult Chief.

I'll send you an update over the weekend, thanks

mufutau55:
Is that first big ceiling light available in daylight too?

Hajji M.

Yes chief.
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allhavesinned:
Bro, long time, hope good and how I fit get the chandelier booklet to enable me choose, meanwhile

Pretty long time chief.
Will send you a copy of the catalogue.
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Do you have them hanging up in the shop? And, are you open on Saturdays?

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Daboomb:
I am just wondering whether this is correct or it is a mistake:
I checked the website of one of the major distributors of this HAVELLS product in Nigeria (Somotex) and the picture of the same product they have on their website, is OPPOSITE to that which you called the original.

The picture they have is the "Havells" Logo in Red color, on a white background (which is exactly what you called the fake).
(See attached picture below).

In Nigeria, we all know that it is the norm to sell the Fake as the original, even sold at higher prices just to fool the buyer who has no idea fo what to expect (we all cant be a guru on every little item!).

Can you please clear the air on this observation.

Well first off, somotex is local , by local i mean operates here. And like most local companies, not many bother with updating small details on thier site.

Secondly there is a reason why I specifically mentioned​ a time range... Mid 2016 till date... The image you have as the fake used to be the series that came with havells distribution boards, but with the proliferation of counterfeits they switched to the Euro II Series , and in addition to that had to specifically start to put the "Havells Nigeria" sticker on the side of the MCBs ( as seen in the first picture) as an extra measure.

You should Visit the manufacturer's site (Havells India) not somotex.

http://www.havells.com/en/consumer/switchgear/circuit-breaker/miniature-circuit-breaker.html

That is why everything is not by looking or picture..

diordaves:
Hajji there is no market for fakes. Nobody will deliberately seek out to buy fake products. There is a market for top end product, middle range and bargain range. A product can still be bargain range and still be safe and serve the purpose. There are also branded products and generic products. The fact that it is a generic product and cheap doesn't mean its not safe to use.

The problem is passing off unsafe dangerous products for branded products and charging top end price in some cases. So the consumer is not to be blamed as the consumer is willing to pay accordingly thinking they are getting the real deal. Where the consumer pays lower or go bargain hunting, this doesn't mean the consumer is encouraging fake product but buying with trust that the product is a generic product which is expected to be cheaper. There is branded paracetamol and generic paracetamol. Generic paracetamol is cheaper, safe and serve the same purpose as the branded; so if the consumer goes in search for generic paracetamol doesn't mean the consumer is encouraging fake market.

Those importing unsafe products can as well import cheaper safe generic products and charge appropriately. It is the greed of importers that encourage fake market, not consumers. If the importers don't import fake products, I don't think the consumer will clamour for fake products, they will buy happily what's available in the market: genuine top range, middle range or safe generic as your power reach. This is the case in developed world.

this oga dey make me laugh, you speak as if you control the choices and action of all Nigerian consumers.

"Nobody will deliberately seek out to buy fake products" .... And you know this how Sir??

As an experienced seller and someone who interacts with sellers and consumers on a daily basis.. i can CATEGORICALLY tell you that the shopping attitude and orientation of the average Nigerian consumer plays a significant role in sellers becoming more and more disposed to cheap and substandard products.
I am not saying it is the sole reason. I am saying it is an encouragement.

You earlier said..."This is the case in developed world" ... Unfortunately this IS NOT the developed world.
Where your average buyer is first and foremost more interested in functionality and safety. And where you can bargain Hunt with ease because a litre of Mobil lube oil in shop A will be the exact same content in shop B as is the case in shop C.... But in a case where you can have up to five iterations of the same damn brand, what exactly are you comparing and bargaining on ??

When you're big on quality brands and you see that majority of the buyers are shying away from your so-called original, and opting for much cheaper but substandard options seller B is selling, it is only a matter of time before you figure.."what the heck" and join the band wangon.... Afterall you're in business to sell.
In another case where a seller in shop A sells an authentic version of a product for 100, buyer walks in checks price and walks into shop B and sees the same brand and product for 80, and buys without "sufficiently" ascertaining that they are infact the same thing. the seller is shop A continues to lose his business to the guy in shop B who is selling counterfeit... it is only a matter of time before he also joins the band wagon.
So you continue to see a pattern, and ripple effect. The resulting reaction is that more and more Importers will drop standards to increase patronage and stay in business.


Generic products are abundant in Nigeria, and as a matter of fact very cheap. Which is why most people buy them. As a seller i can tell you that 8 out of 10 Customers will opt for the cheaper brands when presented with multiple options. But as opposed to what obtains in other climes, if a product is rated 13A, ..regardless of whether it is a top brand or not, that product "WILL function in that capacity! because it is certified before it is allowed in. But can you say the same for your country? This is what makes the pursuit of generic or cheap options a problem in Nigeria.

if there was a way to completely eliminate the importation of imitations/counterfeits, the issue of cheaper or substandard brands would then be a smaller problem. Atleast shoppers looking to buy good brands would have an easier time getting what they want aswell as comparing prices more effectively.


A very good example of the challenges with bargain hunting here is the case mentioned above, where 70mm was sold as 95mm.
I am almost certain that the seller provided a price cheaper than others which made his a more attractive choice, ( probably checked and okayed by an electrician) How does a honest seller compare or compete in that scenario ?
Funny thing is he probably sold it at a price just a little lower than the true cost of 95mm, but also much higher than the cost of 70mm, ....greatly maximizing his profit.
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Before you jump out of a plane make sure you're wearing a parachute that works.... Before you go "a-bargaining" make sure you are sufficiently able to identify and distinguish.

Regardless of what is said or not said, .
...there will always be people who will not touch substandard products with a pole, even if it is given out for free.
.... There will always be people who will care less about quality or safety even if you preach to them from now till eternity
.... There will always be sellers who will continue to keep up thier standards regardless of market trends
.... And there will always be sellers who will continue to prey on the innocent aswell as the ignorant, regardless of how much money they make.

oyb:
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its not just fake goods, i have had the experience where a wire sized 70mm was sold as 95mm. we could not understand why the wires were overheating.

unfortunately, this is nigeria - it is what it is

I'm a seller chief, not a buyer.


Second paragraph emphasizes the need for due diligence, shopping wisely, aswell as the buyer's ability to identify and distinguish....considering our unique problem of seller integrity.
Had the cable size (and possibly quality) been ascertained upon supply or during purchase, you would have no problems

EgunMogaji:
I write this as a consumer who recently bought electrical goods.

I, as well other consumers, should never be blamed for the possibility of buying fake electrical goods. Those fake goods should never be available in the marketplace in the first instance, at any price.

If we're to lay blame then it belongs at the footsteps of the federal government and the various sales association in the country. The federal government for allowing such goods to enter the country and the sales associations for not monitoring their associates.

And on this matter of consumers searching for low prices, it is the norm in all civilized societies and it's not an excuse for dubious sellers to dupe customers. I can search online between HomeDepot.Com and Lowes.Com and assured of the best prices and guaranteed of first class, "UL Listed" genuine goods.

This matter of unsafe electrical materials is actually a felonious crime because not only is it fraud but also endangers the public at large. It's not something to be used as a sales tool. IMHO.

PS: I appreciate the education but we need to stop blaming the consumers.

I clearly mentioned sellers and regulatory bodies as being culpable Chief.
But that aside, consumers can be a part of the problem.

Like you rightly said ...."consumers searching for low prices, is the norm in all civilized societies" but in civilized societies people don't have to dig individual boreholes, or buy thier own electricity poles or pay for power without being metered, or worry about buying A as B.
Our realities are different, and in light of this we adapt to our unique situation, because like you rightly said again, those fake goods should not be in the market in the first place, ... However they unfortunately are.

I am not justifying the action of sellers or regulatory agencies, or disagreeing with the natural need to shop for a good bargain, but when an average consumer is more interested in how much than how good, then there's a problem; he puts himself at risk of ending up with a counterfeit considering the unfortunate uniqueness of our markets. Demand does drive supply.

I'm really more interested in buyer education than in apportioning of blame because we truly are in an unfortunate mess,

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