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PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 9:52pm On Jul 01, 2017
Below is another cunning and misleading variation of the real deal.

Havells deliberately misspelt as Havel's
This is a completely different board in design and quality.
But To the ignorant/unsuspecting buyer this could pass as the real thing.

PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 9:45pm On Jul 01, 2017
Speaking on the proliferation of fake goods, the killing of brands and the absence of standards.

Because of our penchant for cheap things, the greed of sellers and the ignorance of consumers (and surprisingly some so-called professionals); Nigeria is a flourishing hub for counterfeiters.
We are arguably the largest market for counterfeited products in the world. The complicity of our supposed regulatory apparatus only adds salt to injury. Many big brands with a strong presence (even in smaller African countries) shy away from establishing a presence here for some of these reasons, and those who mange to do so are having a hell of a time doing it.

An example of a reputable electrical brand with a counterfeit problem in Nigeria is Havells; as expected their products are currently widely counterfeited. From changeovers, to distribution boards to switch fuse units etc.
They continue to fight this by changing moulds, designs, repackaging, adding stickers etc.


For Example;
The Below are pictures of the MCBs for Havells distribution Boards.

On the LEFT you have the Authentic (made in India) while on the RIGHT is a Counterfeit (imported from China)

If you purchased a Havells board somewhere around mid 2016 till date and your MCB looks like the one to the right, you were sold a fake.

Do sufficient due diligence Always, exercise care Always, shop wisely.

PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op):
Great New Stuff !!!

Restock and New Designs
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PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 9:50am On Jun 29, 2017
LED flush Chandeliers

PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 10:40am On Jun 28, 2017
LED ceiling fixtures

PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 10:52am On Jun 26, 2017
Phillips LED modular and down lights

PropertiesRe: Genuine Schneider /ABB /Legrand /INDOASIAN/ Havells for your projects by allCopacetic(op): 9:26pm On Jun 25, 2017
For Purchase & Enquires, Contact:

08089847820
buzorokeke@gmail.com

We do electricals right.
PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 9:24pm On Jun 25, 2017
For Purchase & Enquiries

Contact:
08089847820
buzorokeke@gmail.com

We do electricals right.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 9:05am On Jun 25, 2017
Daboomb:
I know l will be re-assured, l just want others to be re-assured as well.
With you, it is 101% guaranteed.
Keep it up
Thanks so much chief, appreciate the vote of confidence
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:45am On Jun 23, 2017
44chux:
Due to repeated cases of unsatisfactory customer service and aftersales support, I stopped every NL biz transaction.

But for AllCopacetic I made an exception because he has, till date, been the only NL contact that follows through with his WARRANTY, going as far as to replace defective items as well as goods missing in transit.

@AllCopacetic please bear with me. The Tyranny of time affects even my most notable intentions.
My Oga grin
We have come a long way, and will hopefully go farther.
Thanks for your sustained trust and faith.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:40am On Jun 23, 2017
twinskenny:
@allCopacetic

you make one of my client change all his AC SWITCH kudos to you sir.. grin grin despite the fact that the accessories was bought from UK
Oh the ULTI right,
Thanks chief. Hope they're still working fine
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:56pm On Jun 22, 2017
kopell:
Dont worry keep supplying your genuine part, we are here to DEFEND YOU anytime any day. YOUR LOGO na quilting and TRUST, and TESTED.
Thanks chief,
People like you who have a strong taste for quality encourage the few sellers who strive to keep thier standards up, regardless of the economic situation.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:53pm On Jun 22, 2017
spyder880:
Allcopacetic has supplied me a lot of electrical materials and cables all the way from Lagos to Enugu. 100% original from the company.
Thanks chief, i greet you Sir
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:32am On Jun 22, 2017
Daboomb:
I emphasised YOU (You, Alcopacetic) in my post.
I want to know how you do yours.
The question was directed at YOU, and how YOU practice your business.

I repeat: Are YOU saying that when we buy from YOU (Alcopacetic), that there is NO 100% GUARANTEE that we will be getting the original stuff?

Just answer directly Sir and let other Suppliers deal/speak for themselves.

We need to know who we can vouch for, as in 100%
Oh, then I understood you out of context Sir. I made a blanket statement to infer that integrity issue can come up, which was why my response was general.

Speaking of guarantees, I prefer to let my reputation speak. no seller would admit to selling you fakes in the first place. It's not difficult to come out and shout integrity integrity

But since you insist on a direct answer, let me be VERY categorical smiley

"ALL" our Cables are supplied by the Factory, So they are 100% guaranteed to be authentic.
We do not directly or indirectly sell or encourage the sale of adulterated cables (which infact greatly affect our business)
If our pricing does not work, it's goodbye and thanks for considering us.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:55pm On Jun 21, 2017
EgunMogaji:
That Sir is true, unfortunately.

The apple rots from the inside.
Absolutely
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 8:44pm On Jun 21, 2017
jabolo:
It seems even electrical installers so used to the fake products are now confused about what is quality and what is not. I'll drop you a mail later about an ongoing "Coleman" vs "Colman" wahala.
Lol, alright chief
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 8:03pm On Jun 21, 2017
EgunMogaji:
Then that is neither a business man nor decent human being, but a shyster and fraudster.
Lol, true chief.

But our integrity issue is not limited to traders or local commerce alone. It plays out in our politics, religion, public office, and daily interactions. It really shouldn't come as a suprise. What you see in business is a reflection on a larger scale.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:50pm On Jun 21, 2017
topsy23:
Very easy to identify for those that use/sell them often, some of them are lighter than original cable in weight and with the use magnet.
A magnet can only tell you if there is an iron content in the length of conductor.
The greater number of high grade imported clones are non-magnetic copper "alloys" .
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:43pm On Jun 21, 2017
Daboomb:
YOU are an appointed Distributor of ColeMan cables, l think.

Are you saying that even if l or anyone else buys from you, there is no 100% GUARANTEE that you wont sell me something Fake? shocked shocked huh

Please clarify o!
Abeg, just clarify. undecided
Just like there is no guarantee that every acclaimed Man of God is righteous.
There will be a handful of distributors that will play on both teams, especially if your "Aroro" is too much or your pricing is unrealistic.
Rather than loose the business, they might sell you clones, because they figure that's what you're gonna end up buying at that price anyways. especially where very large volumes are concerned.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 7:18pm On Jun 21, 2017
diordaves:
Which browser do you use? I noticed your 'Quote' of Hajji M post included the photo/YouTube video. I know Explorer use to this but since the update of Nairaland, a lot of stuff went downhill. I can't even log in with internet explorer or even Microsoft Edge.
Googe chrome, on a mobile device
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 2:44pm On Jun 21, 2017
topsy23:
There are alot of fake cables in the market now. Ibo guys have taken advantage of recession to bring in so many fake materials to Nigeria market. Only that can save us. Best is to buy from distributor.
Lol, @ bolded . A more appropriate term would be "Dubious Importers" smiley

I'm an "Ibo guy" too. But it goes without saying, the standard of merchandise we put out.

80% of other key distributors for local brands​ are also Ibo by the way.

People just need to source wisely and ascertain the genuity of their source. Not everybody with a shop full of cables is an "Appointed Distributor" .
Buying from an "appointed" distributor might also not give you 100% immunity, but it is your surest bet in an open market.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 2:31pm On Jun 21, 2017
mufutau55:
My brother... those wires can't come into the country without some officials knowing o. You are completely right.
Nah only God go dey help us for Naija o. This is horrible... property and humans going up in smoke...

Hajji M.
Exactly Sir, @ bolded.
All parties in connivance are as tainted as the criminals who do the importing.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 11:00pm On Jun 20, 2017
mufutau55:
SON Discovers fake cables in a building in Lagos, Nigeria.
Please be careful when you buy your cables o. FIRE!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU-FtAsqQiM

Hajji M.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. One out of several dozens.
E be like say the importer no "do normal" ..because the scale of cloning right now is unprecedented. It's an open scandal.
It used to be unbranded or a subpar brand of Cables shipped here and then recoiled and repackaged as popular local brands...But now, the game has changed..... They brand the cables all the way from China (complete with engravings​ and all) and offload in secret warehouses, then start to move​ them into the market in bits ( if you settle the market Union).

Many sellers are smiling to the bank.
PropertiesRe: Genuine Schneider /ABB /Legrand /INDOASIAN/ Havells for your projects by allCopacetic(op):
For Purchase & Enquires,
08089847820
buzorokeke@gmail.com
PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 8:37pm On Jun 16, 2017
We appreciate your kind patronage.

PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 9:34pm On Jun 14, 2017
For Purchase, catalogues & Enquiries
Contact:
08089847820
buzorokeke@gmail.com

PropertiesRe: Genuine Schneider /ABB /Legrand /INDOASIAN/ Havells for your projects by allCopacetic(op): 9:26pm On Jun 14, 2017
buffox:
This is the one I mean.
I'm not sure who this is,
But I'm sorry we don't have that in stock.
It is available in other brands though.
PropertiesRe: Genuine Schneider /ABB /Legrand /INDOASIAN/ Havells for your projects by allCopacetic(op): 9:22pm On Jun 12, 2017
Only the best for the best
PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 9:22pm On Jun 12, 2017
Only the best, for the Best

PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 5:47pm On Jun 12, 2017
twinskenny:
nice one boss
Thanks Chief
PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 7:41pm On Jun 11, 2017
Let's make that house a home...
Class, sophistication, Style

Happy New Week

PropertiesRe: WATCH THIS SPACE (Electrical Showcase & Review) by allCopacetic(op): 8:53pm On Jun 05, 2017
Quality Electricals, Excellent​ Service, excellent prices

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