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Delivar:
This statement is making it clearer that the inaccurate Bible is what is deceiving atheists. Like I said before, any person or group of persons can write anything and claim it came from God. Therefore the Bible is not an object to be used to prove whether God exists or not. This implies that even if the Bible is fake it does not mean that God himself is fake. Studying things in existence is the ideal way to prove whether God exists or not and not the Bible


The part in bold shows you are personifying evolution as a living and intelligent entity for it to take a decision to encourage diversity and prevent gene stagnation. This thing cannot just happen by chance. Only an intelligent and conscious entity can make such a thing happen that way. You haven't explained how thousands of different advanced animals exist in pairs of male and female and STILL accurately look alike. Evolution by chance can NEVER do this. That's impossible. It's like saying a blind man can walk from Lagos to Abuja without hitting or touching any obstacle. Only something having intelligence can make creation happen this way.


I told you to leave the Bible alone. We have concluded the Bible is fake. We are now trying to prove God's existence only by looking at creation.

Your responses only make it clearer that you do not understand Jack shit about how evolution works. Also, your assessment that a male and female of the same species look alike is false because sexual dimorphism exists. Take a look at the peacocks, are you going to tell me the male and females look identical?

Evolution is a mechanism driven by the struggle of organisms to better adapt and survive in their habitats. It's why some creatures have very close relations between predator and prey. Like how the grasshopper mouse evolved a resistance to scorpion venom and how the scorpions they prey on have some of the deadliest neurotoxins to other animals.

It is not a God that drives evolution because if that were the case, God would have created all living creatures in perfect states from the start. You implying God drives evolution makes him sound incompetent because he'd be no different than a software developer releasing a broken program to the market and having to slowly improve it via consecutive software updates and patches

Delivar:
I earlier told you to leave the Bible alone. I feel the bible is what is deceiving you atheists. You guys feel because the Bible contains inconsistencies it becomes a big pointer to suggest God is fake. The Bible may actually be fake. Anybody can easily write rubbish and claim it's from God. So does the Bible being fake actually become proof that a God doesn't exist?

You think evolution is behind creation? If Evolution created everything then evolution is certainly God himself cos evolution has done many intelligent things that a non-living can't do. Evolution as something of chance has failed to explain many things. If you think creation by chance is the answer then kindly explain how chance created the male and female species of many different animals. I await your explanation.

So you admit the Bible is fake and yet you still think God exists? If the very thing that says God is real is fake itself, how can God's existence be proven then?

Also, evolution is not God nor is it the action of God. There's no such thing as male and female species because both genders of a species would be the same species and not different species from one another. On that note, Organisms evolved to have different genders to encourage genetic diversity and prevent gene stagnation. Regardless, some creatures are hermaphroditic (snails for example) and can produce offspring independently while some species have only one sex like the all female lizard species.

If Adam and Eve existed like the Bible says, humanity would have gone extinct because a single pair of humans will not produce enough genetic diversity and their successive generations will die due to inbreeding.

I find this thread ironic because Makka, the central stronghold of Islam, is one of the most racist cities in the world.

Seun031:
MAY Allah reward you Akhi.


For the Christians or Other people always bashing any Islamic post , what exactly is your problem? Did you all learnt insults and bad manner of approach from your faiths or you’re just like that

Because I keep wondering, if it’s a Christian related post on sundays, you can never see any Muslims posting insults or mocking the post.

Which means we’re more cultured and well mannered than you people

All the terrorist organizations and the homicidal Muslims that attack anyone that so much as makes fun of Muhammad would like to disagree with your assessment.

midolian:
And when you are faced with difficult situations, you remember He exists...

You were made from mere sperm drop and you feel its ordinary or scientific? You get many things you don't deserve, yet you feel there is no need to use reason? You plant seeds and they germinate, you feel its science?

How more hypocritical can you be?

Anyone who says or believes God does not exist is living a lie...needs to be reborn

The Quran is false. Humans aren't made form mere sperm drops, but from the combination of haploid sperm and egg cells.

The Quran at no point mentions the existence of the ovum nor hint at its role in reproduction. As far as the Quran has told us, we were created from sperm alone and that's it.

Having realized the Quran undermines the role of the female ovum in reproduction, do you think Allah didn't care to mention it or Muhammed, the person who created the Quran, simply didn't know the female egg cells existed?

I think it'd be better if people stopped blindly believing everything they hear in churches and mosques and learn to think for themselves. Then, they will reach the bitter truth that Man is no more special than any animals in the forest. We're all products of evolution and it is our inherent arrogance that made us create Gods to worship so we'd feel special.

They keep waiting for Jesus, but Jesus will never come back, because he was never here in the first place. A man named Jesus may have existed at some point in history, but the legends about him are just fabricated exaggerations concocted to form a religion built on lies.

Thanos can defeat Jesus without the infinity gauntlet

simplesearch:
Albert Einstein already knows better by now. If anyone scorn, disparage or hold God in contempt till discarded by death from this planet then that person is completely finished. There is definitely no hope or life in the afterlife outside God, we can brag and boast about our capacity to go far in this world without God but afterward. Even king solomon said it in one of his writings that, 'Too much learning brings weariness to the flesh', while Paul on his own stated that, 'Knowledge puffs up or makes one proud'. This is the irony of our made made quest for knowledge that conflicts and undermines God's sovereignty and existence. Many scientist have close affinity with Devils and most of their discoveries is the product of such affinity, especially those who think they can't go far outside this arrangement, God is the author of knowledge and the greatest scientist with infinite mind, whatever negative view we lesser creature hold of him therefore is inconsequential and do not amount to anything.

At least scientists are constantly finding ways to make life easier for our kind and they help us better understand our world. Religion has brought nothing but discrimination, arrogance and suffering and inequality to people. Heck, the Bible straight up says that Women are not allowed to speak in the church among other sexist verses.

Delivar:
Let's leave the Bible alone. The Bible is what is causing all the confusion. Atheists feel because there are errors and unproven claims in the Bible it becomes the ultimate proof that there is no creator. When christians fail to explain these inconsistencies in the Bible the atheists feel like they have proven no God exists. If you want to know whether a God exists or not don't look at what the Bible says because the Bible may actually be fiction. Just grab a biology textbook and read. Then ask yourself if the things you read in the biology textbook are things that are collectively all happening by chance.

We need to accept we don't have the capacity to understand everything. Our intelligence and perception has a limit. God is just beyond our understanding. We haven't actually explained a lot happening on earth where we are living and we are trying to explain a God. That's ridiculous. We can't explain God because God is not even subject to the laws of the universe. The human mind can only explain things using the laws of the universe. The riddle you provided follows the laws of universe so it doesn't apply to God.

I can't believe anyone can type that much and not realize how ridiculous they sound. You mentioned how Christians have failed to explain everything in the Bible and you even admitted that it contains errors in it. Do you think an infallible God would present a holy book riddled with contradictions to guide a population?

Also, things in the universe do happen by chance sometimes. However, all living creatures around you are a manifestation of millions of years of evolution through trial and error. Science has already proven the remnants of evolution still inside the human genome, and yes, our kind evolved from homo habilis apes. I'll link a video below for you to see.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GfKZlTRNjA

Blabbermouth:
Mumu, God is above the scope of Logic

If God is above the scope of logic, why did he bother sending prophets and Jesus to make people understand his message?

Viktom:
be prepared to ask God this questions in hell if you don't repent now. John 3 vs 16 will do for a start, after that you should read Act 4 vs 12. thanks and God bless you, I honestly think reading Romans 1 vs 16_22 will change your mentality. stay blessed.

Classic theist excuse. Always telling people they'll go to Hell when they die even though they have no solid evidence that Hell nor Heaven exist outside of their fairytail books.

Yankiss:
No religion was forced on anyone. The Europeans and Americans got the Religion from Arabs. Did they also got forced? My brother, the TRUE GOD, YAHWEH, IS UNIVERSAL. IT IS LIKE THE AIR WE BREATHE.

That is objectively false. Religions and cults are formed so a select few people or a government can have full control over a given people with rules they set in place. It's why a majority of religions are occult like in nature.

Delivar:
Do you accept there is a limit to our understanding and intelligence? I guess the answer is YES. Our intelligence is enough to discern that the universe did not spring up by chance because of the numerous orderliness and perfect designs all around. But the issue of God's origin and every other thing about him is just beyond what the human mind can grasp.

When you see a strange phone on your desk you will know a human dropped it there but you don't know the person's identity. We know God's existence through his handwork seen all around. But we don't know his identity and where he came from.

Has it ever occurred to you that the reason why God's origins and some of his actions are hard to understand was because the Bibles were authored by men in the middle ages who had little scientific knowledge and didn't know how the world really worked?

Answer me this famous riddle: Can an all powerful and all capable God create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?

If he could not create a rock he can't lift, he cannot be an all capable God. If he could however, that would no longer make him all powerful.

Have fun with this dilemma.

I registered for voters card last November because I need it for opening Domiciliary Account. I still haven't heard anything till now.

Please, does anyone know an estimate on when the card might be ready?

Hello. I'm currently in Abuja and I want to register for Jamb, but before I go and submit my epin to get my biometrics, I want to know something...

Can someone register Jamb in a center, but write the exam in a different center instead? I ask this because I will be in Kano by the time March rolls over next year. Please let me know if you know how this works.

Which other network provider has unlimited data bundles without as much throttling as Ntel? I'm tired of 65kbs.

Edit: I'm currently getting an amazing speed of 10kbs.

Singapore1:
you don't bite more than you can chew ..everything about NTEL is now wrong even their competitors will be mocking them now

1. they increased the tariff and they couldn't even notify their subscribers through sms or email , that shows they are full of sh1t.
they just took the step without notifying us, i normally do the weekly subscription because i move around a lot, i recharged 3000 and it failed only to check quickteller to see they have increased their tariff , not that i have problem with their new tariff but at least we should be informed

2. again they started speed throttling and no one was informed ..instead they are telling us to keep checking their website for new policies, for God sake who does that in this 21st century ... it's not like they are running google adsense on their website where there is need for traffic .. this shows that they dont value their customers and that i can't cope with .. i think we need to stop celebrating mediocrity .. is it that hard to give us unlimited speed? they should know by now that most of Nigerian youth are now engaging in online business, internet with good speed and data cap will be needed ..nowadays i use etisalat for most of my browsing and i dont think there is any complain whatsoever regarding using etisalat in respect to browsing ... yes etisalat is expensive but i can tell you their 3G is better than all this glorify 3.75G calling themselves 4G and further embarrassing the LTE generation by putting it in front of their 4G calling it 4G-LTE ..

3. it's not my fault that they don't have enough coverage .. for every service installed there should be maximum number of load ( subscribers ) it can carry , the reason why they are not everywhere is because their service is not everywhere ..is it not so? ... i dont have problem with paying 20k a month ..but i want burstable speed and uncapped data plan ... i think they should use their dictionary for "unlimited"

( mtcheww i just murdered english )

I posted that pic on twitter and Ntel retweeted it. The irony.

I wonder when 419tel will wake up and find that they've lost all their customers and become bankrupt.

Maybe if it's popular enough, they'll make it a permanent thing. I sure hope they do that though. 512kbs throttling is better than this pos 65kbs.

What is wrong with ntel self? It's like rhea want to lose all their customers. If they'd kept the throttling to 200kbs people go fit manage small. 60kbs is like begging customers to switch to other networks.

Have they fixed the throttling or is it still a pathetic 60kbs?

Fayose no get sympathy for ill old man?

4llerbuntu:
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Na wah for una ó.

I've been waiting for someone to come here and say something positive. What's all this?

Let me tell all of you that I am an ntel pioneer. My sim is one of the first 200 activated in Lagos.

And its even a customised number I picked myself.

So if you all think I will sit back and be using my mtn data to be reading all this ntel slander u must be mistaken

If you don't have any positive to say about ntel, don't post here again. Otherwise we go fight oooo.

In short, I don vex. Make I find my Spectranet sim card. So that my armoury will be full for any attacks.

Officially Voltroning for Ntel henceforth

I saw what you did there

Breaking news! Ntel is down again.

otokx:
They have increased their unlimited plan to 12500 per month, still testing the network.

Scumbag Ntel. Throttles speed. Increases the price or all their data plans.

These people are bastards! So they're increasing data plan prices while giving people 60kbs? Dey mad? Abeg, Glo is always an option for me. Feck Ntel.

If you call them now to complain, they'll tell you say na network issue and they're 'trying' to resolve it.

There was a 3gb daily cap?, that's bullshit! Don't call something unlimited if it has a limit.

It would've been nice if they actually responded to complaints rather than pretend that everyone is satisfied with what they're getting.

Ntel useless right now.

This thing slow af. 20kbs ffs!