₦airaland Forum

seanfer:
Not supporting Oshiomhole but I think FCT high Court is same as State high court and can’t decide a case from another state, Obaseki and Co should know better. The case should have been filed at a federal high court who has jurisdiction to listen to any case in the country no matter where the case originated from.

They should rather seek Appeal from Appeal court not *federal high court * as you said. I heard oshiomole has seeked the appeal court interference

fergie001:
Hahahahahahaha......open secret.

amaniro.... My Abia brother come ooooo

Lol. State drama

oladrogo:
thank u sir, ive been waiting 4 some1 2 clear the air.

Starboy dey for you..... Me too I actually didn't want to say anything but I saw that nobody said this ever since I just say let me comment at least even if it doesn't get much attention like those on the first place. Nairalanders comment blindly. Most of the time they comment Recklesly on topic they know little about

ENIGMATIC2023:
Only the court of appeal can set aside that ruling.... A high court cannot set aside a judgement of another high court

A lower court cannot set aside a ruling of a higher court. The two court have the same jurisdiction they can set aside their ruling.

Lol I see people saying the judiciary is useless meanwhile they don't even know how it works. Two of them can keep countering their Ruling because they're of equal jurisdiction. The matter should be taking to a higher court to avoid problems. according to judicial precedence the two of them are allowed to do that because they're equal.

Lol how can a federal capital territory not be ready? Lol.

fergie001:
You are from Etsako or Uromi?

Lol, why did you ask if he's from those places. Obaseki is from Oredo oh

OgunLaakaye:
Charge and bail lawyer.

Read a dumb man's book.

Lol. It is well sha

Doyin2:
As a lawyer I think you are probably more dumb than Sagay,when it comes to both the law and common sense.

As a non lawyer ,I know what Sagay said makes very logical common sense.

Two cases were dismissed based on the same principle of finality and only one got fined.

Whereas for the Bayelsa case,the law clearly states that you disqualify a candidate based on false information of fundamental nature and not on conflicting information .

The two cases are not the same.

greggng:
You are the one that is dump cos I was waiting to see how you use yiur common sense to analyse the two judgement and tell us why u believe the man is dump but you ended up insulting him....cos you have nothing to offer

Lol. If I analyze the judgement you people will now be quoting me anyhow, I don't have strength for that. And, I'm definitely not "dump"

michoim:
You lie...you only follow your dumb sentiments

Sagay is very intelligent in the legal field. Take it or leave it very sentimental in politics

APCNig:
You read books written by a dumb lawyer, it means you are worse than dumb.

If you read law there's no way you won't read itse sagay law of contract which is compulsory for every law student.

fergie001:
The governorship will go to Abia North in 2023. There was a Stakeholders meeting on Friday....the Dep-Gov will go to Central and the speakership to Abia South.

Johnson Onuigbo will be leaving as State Chairman to be replaced and it has been zoned to Abia South.

Let me TRY to be HOPEFUL that we will get it right then.

Nothing will change unless another party wins the state

fergie001:
Too much of education..... They vote individuals not party.

Yeah. Those Ngwa people are making Abia backward Politically. Abia north and central have moved on. In fact they voted APC last election but you see Abia south? Very backward people politically

fergie001:
Exactly...........

.....but they have created more problems than solution.

IMO is always in the eye of the storm.

Ararume v PDP
Ohakim v Okorocha
Now...this

Dramatic State. Though I love their political sphere. It's not subjected to one party unlike the rest Igbo states

fergie001:
Their case from even the HC was weak.

We are not arguing that. They went for the review, only to preserve Imo. They knew there was no case.

Lol. That Imo case is still sparking controversies because Nna ehh e get as the thing be. Supreme Court just obeyed existing protocols. Like I read here if Ihedioha should have won that case all most all the state election will be submitted for review by tomorrow Imo case is peculiar!

fergie001:
That's what am telling you. I posted the full judgement on NL here.

It made fp, you can trace and read the submissions.

Hmm you know I've not been active On Nairaland is just recently. And I'll be going back into Oblivion soon

fergie001:
Understand me.

The primary case, I mean the written submissions before it went to the Supreme Court was weak from the APC angle. The SC based on that to give judgement against APC.

Try and get the submissions of the APC lawyer, you can see the weaknesses even if you aren't a lawyer. I have all this 'cos my roommateat school works in the Chamber of one of the lawyers that won. They played into the PDP's hands.

I am not talking about the review.

Get a good lawyer, but there are certain cases that warrant a big lawyer. When you get to those cases, you will know.

Finally we're on the same page! It was a very weak call for review from the APC. They just played the ball into PDP hands.

fergie001:
You are mixing it up....

You prove your evidence and don't fall into the trap of your rival.

Afe Babalola and Olanipekun, only came in after the SC judgement, just like Agabi didn't handle the Imo case but only came in after the SC judgement.

Everyone knows Ikpeazu (SAN) and election cases, he is a master. But when it came to review, they brought in Agabi..big name.

Aare and Uncle Wole need no introduction. Aare last came to court over a decade ago. When you are big, you are big.

The lawyer that handled the Bayelsa case isn't even a SAN. He is one young man that Yustaz Usman (SAN)(the PDP lawyer) outshadowed.

There are certain cases, you need a big lawyer. You must be good before you are big.

When the matter is up, it can be tackled. Ask yourself why the Court upheld the affidavit of Muhammadu and Mohammed of Buhari .....thereby adjusting Section 177 and using the same affidavit to punish Degi.

What you write and argue can go a long way.

Nah una sabi sha with all those una political wahala. I'm not a political thinker or a political lawyer

and Bleep lol you expect me to read all those this night? Nah my hands are paining me

fergie001:
You are mixing it up....

You prove your evidence and don't fall into the trap of your rival.

Afe Babalola and Olanipekun, only came in after the SC judgement, just like Agabi didn't handle the Imo case but only came in after the SC judgement.

The lawyer that handled the Bayelsa case isn't even a SAN. He is one young man that Yustaz Usman (SAN)(the PDP lawyer) outshadowed.

There are certain cases, you need a big lawyer. You must be good before you are big.

First of The Case of Ebere and Musa is Doctrine of Judicial precedence, it is an example from Gllavile Williams. As I stated earlier, yes you are meant to prove your evidence beyond all reasonable doubt. I said this I dont know why I'm repeating this. Once again I'll Tell you no matter if Jesus was the lawyer that handled Baylesa case, he will lose the case. Because first of all it was a review and a review don't mean Supreme Court will change its mind. It can hardly overturn situations or verdict it has previously dealt with. You don't just understand the aspect I'm coming from. Get a good lawyer not a Big lawyer

fergie001:
My bro....calm down!

When I mean no two cases are the same refer to the applications entered by the lawyers. This Bayelsa connundrum would have been averted if APC had used an experienced lawyer.

APC fell into the hands of the PDP. I saw the written addresses and can tell you if some big lawyers had handled Bayelsa case...APC would have won

So, the essence of those writing the addresses cannot be overemphasised, I have seen loopholes already I can challenge you with based on the example of Musa and Ebere.

How did Musa steal the car?
How did Ebere steal the car?

Musa is an alibi who necessarily didn't steal the car but have entered an agreement with someone who had been a fake agent. He is a victim of circumstance.

Musa works legitimately and was fooled into it.

Hope you und?

Understand this:Dont let anybody fool you the tactics of winning a case or giving a case a Good fight is by proving all your evidences beyond all reasonable doubt with Legal Rethorics. Big Lawyers don't have any effect if they can't win a case. Ohh yeah! Who was Lyon's lawyer again in the court? The Almighty Afe Babalola Senior Advocate of Nigeria and Olanipekun. Those two are in the senior leagues of Lawyers but they ended up paying fine at the end Get a good lawyer not a big lawyer..




About Ebere and Musa, That's just and example. No matter if Musa stole Highlander 2020 and Ebere stole Mercedes E 230 . According to the criminal code they'll serve the same term else it will be injustice, Lé comprehendé?

senatordave1:
Then pdp cant have imo.it must be balanced

Lol who said it must be balanced? Things are not done that way

fergie001:
You are passionate about this fine for reasons best known to you but I need you to take out emotions and calm down.

No two cases are the same. The case of Bayelsa was thrashed excitingly well here some weeks ago. Legally, Degi had no case as the error(s) had been made by his lawyers from the lower court and he showed an aptitude for been chameleonic. Section 187(1) and (2) of the 1999 Constitution (as ammended) also made his case affect Lyon.

If you want to be honest, Uncle Wole and Aare didn't quote any technical (or human) error, they only based on the fact that the lower court was silent on certain prayers that the SC upheld. Judicial precedent can tell us that the FHC judgement isn't binding on the SC. We have dealt with this extensively in the last few weeks.

In the case of Imo, there are clear errors pointed out. I support the SC's stance on not reviewing it (because it will call for ceaseless litigations) but they could have sought a way to correct inter alia some fascinating lacuna in their judgement.

1)The issue of spread which Hope and ultimately Ihedioha didn't enjoy as enshrined in Section 179(2) of the 1999 Constitution (as ammended).

2) The issue of valid votes higher than the number of accredited voters.

The judgement is for all ages, and this is going to be a big problem for INEC as the Edo and Ondo elections beckon.

Lawyers will seize every opportunity to quote and link this judgement, politicians as well aren't fools. Since the SC has legitimised it( so to speak), win at all costs with or without credence to any of the two reasons above.

The Omehia/Amaechi case is an example where the SC had to reverse itself 11 years later. This judgement post-2023, will judiciously die permanently.

Their thinking is let us allow all parties lick their wounds, and let's move on.

For the fine...following the uproar, it will be unearthing pandora box.

...Iamgrey5, let's move on, ok?

senatordave1 dansuqi kahal29 ejimatic amaniro Agboriotejoye lostz losC ChristianNorth, are we together?

Two cases can be the same. According to Glanvile Williams Definition of precedence, states that precedence is following previous decisions where the facts are the same. If Musa stole a car In someone's compound in 2008 and Ebere stole a car too in someone compound in 2020.They are the same Case, their facts are the same so the same punishment that applied to Musa is the same that'll apply to Ebere (unless the constitution was amended within those years) if not its the same case. But, That of Baylesa and Imo are two different Cases! The verdict was not even the same and that's how it's supposed to be.

Why should this be a big deal? Kini big deal?

Iamgrey5:
How?

How can it lack merit when few judges decided to turn themselves into the whole of Bayelsa and decide who will be governor?

What law diqualifies the governor?

Why should the Deputy be disqualified because of inconsistency in names on his certificate when the same court claimed Buhari with similar issues is qualified.

Apart from this not just making sense. But you obviously don't know anything, Legal tenets or how the arms of government works.. Etc.

That of Buhari case, we all know it's just a charde,no Nigerian President have ever been sacked by the court for various reasons and ambiguity. As long as the Supreme Court has dismissed the case for lack of merit. There is nothing YOU or anybody or any court can do about it. It has be Reviewed and found worthy of dismissal. Bye.

senatordave1:
Is he as dumb as ikpeazu

Ikpeazu own is just on another level

fergie001:
I grab.......

yeah fam

Iamgrey5:
What of Bayelsa and Zamfara?

You mean PDP won those ones fairly?

That of Bayelsa, The court verdict is very very correct. It lacks Merit.

All these Colubian Ladies no go kee person!

fergie001:
It isn't that bad. My room-mate in school studied there.
AAU or BEN?

Lol I stop there bro. Confidential.

fergie001:
What is Taaa?
Is Madonna a bad school? No impression, just asked.

Yes Madonna is a terrible school. I didn't study there sha studied in Edo