₦airaland Forum

These arguments are really very infantile. No profession dictates to any other profession in the developed world. There is the national association of boards of pharmacy in the US that regulates the practice of the profession in 50 states and Guam and US Virgin Island. There is the American Board of Physicians, board of nursing etc. None takes orders from the other. It might interest folks to know that CMD or Medical director is not the overall boss in most hospitals in the USA. The president or CEO of most hospitals here may not even be in any of the health care professions, he or she is usually an MBA or PhD in healthcare administration. The arguments are uncalled for. Here the size of the pie is grown by running these facilities profitably though most hospitals are non profit. The big pie allows healthcare in America to be the sector with highest no of professions making 6 figures.
A nurse Anaesthetist here can make as high as$180000, more than a family physician or pediatrician or some psychiatrists.

I worked in a hospital where a psychiatrist friend was written-up (what we call query) by the boss who happened to be a healthcare administration graduate and was the director. Please let's enlighten each other and improve each other's intrinsic value with factual conversations. Pharmacists here don't even flaunt pharm D . Physical therapists don't flaunt their Dpt while optometrists don't flaunt their O.D. Everyone just works. You will all be so busy that you will not remember titles and ego. Professions evolve. Architecture in Nigeria used to be a diploma but it's now a masters in architecture with a D.Arch in its heels. Lawyers now get a J.D

Let us not drag our country back with all these petty talk. Any nigerian pharmacist who wants to emigrate to the us must meet certain criteria. Let's keep improving so that those degrees will be useful for them. As for the title craze, no one should be called Engr or Pharm etc it's a sign of how low our society is that people even buy doctorate degrees from some dubious paper mills here and nigerians address them as "dr"

As is the common practice in our society, people are assuming that one person's aspiration has to be at the expense of other people.all these degrees are they not from the western countries? In the USA now, Pharm D is an ENTRY level degree for pharmacists. There is no longer any pharmacy school offering a bachelor of pharmacy degree in the USA. I should know because I am a pharmacist. It is very juvenile to stifle curriculum development in a profession to satisfy the over inflated egos of some.

Nigerians should do due diligence before commenting. What should I expect, even the NUC is not educated enough on how professions work in developed societies. For those egocentric doctors who think "dr" is their birthright, check the history of its use. It was not originally used for physicians but for PhDs. What are they going to do in America where there is O.D (optometrists), JD (lawyers), DNP (nursing) etc...refuse to work?

That is why the country has not made progress. Empty suits everywhere! Who in the world controls the evolution of another profession? It's only in Nigeria that it can happen. No profession controls the board of another profession and if lawyers want J.D they get it based on their curriculum. Is it not in the same Nigeria that all the illiterate buffoons ruling us have one title or the other before their name.

I meant 17,000naira/ month in my previous post.
My point is still that we should stop oppressing people who are less privileged. You are not a madam or oga if you cannot pay living wage to that housekeeper you are just pretending and may be better doing that job yourself. As busy as I am, I do my grocery, cook all kinds of meals in bulk on saturdays, freeze stew and my family eats healthy. And I am busier than I was when I was a big "madam" in Nigeria traveling from one country to the other. The point is our society condones oppression and that is reflected in our political system as well as this house help syndrome. By the way does anyone know what the American government classifies as poverty level? It's roughly about 4 million naira per household. Put in perspective, such a household in Nigeria (poor by world class) will have a human car wash, a human garage door opener, and a full time live in or call it whatever house help. Let's get real and stop all these delusions of madam and oga. Let's help the less fortunate rather than exploit them and we'll be better as a society.
I once met a caucasian woman born and bred in Jos and she wondered why there are no soup kitchens and shelters in many parts of Nigeria. She only needs to read some of these posts. We need to see ourselves in some of these less fortunate people. It could have been anyone but for the grace of God. I appreciate the part about creating jobs but please pay living wage otherwise it's not a job but oppression.

I am not against hiring housekeepers or nannies. I actually came with young kids over a decade ago and had to study for multiple board exams. My amusement at most of the responses is the fact that we are immune to reality as Nigerians and we all pretend to be big men and women. If you cannot pay a living wage do not enslave another man's child. By all means hire anyone but let's stop deluding ourselves. My point is that a house cleaner in this part of the part of the country lives in a nice condominium and has a fairly decent life because they make what is decent for their skills set.
You cannot enslave another man's child on 17000 naira a year and call yourself a madam or oga! It's self delusional. You know what they do to all the Nigerian and Arab families who import house helps to enslave like is done in Nigeria , they jail them. Just google cases some instances. Some people from the developing world are so mean that even though all kids in a school district where you pay your property taxes are able to enroll, they will exclude a minor because they brought her as a maid!!! The African American intelligentsia is ashamed of some of our practices. Remember the slave trade! It took both white folks and Africans . Yes in my opinion most Nigerian women are lazy and their kids are raised by their house helps. I have seen both sides of the equation. Besides all these people boasting about maids cannot afford it in a normal society. Its only in Nigeria that I know whole human beings and their entire families doing the job of a remote garage door opener (maigards)!!! I used to think our problem in Nigeria was leadership but since I stumbled on naira land I changed my mind, the mindset of the populace is interesting and disturbing. What do we all think about slavery?

I find a lot of views expressed here amusing to say the least.. I have lived and worked in Nigeria at a reasonably high income level. I once had 2 maids and used to think it was the only way to go since I had a senior management career. I have since asked God for forgiveness. I have been in the USA for over a decade and before people display ignorance over how we live here, my husband and I are both professionals making six figures. I had cleaning companies come a few times in the last few years, they charge 150-200 dollars for a 2 hour session and they will leave the kids clothes wherever it's dropped and clean around it. I think if you as a "madam" who knows how much is required to live below poverty decide to enslave someone else's child just because you have 10,000 to pay her per month you need to repent. Our culture needs to improve. By the way before anyone runs their mouth as to how we in the diaspora have it hard..my husband and I make a quarte of a mil dollars a year. Let us repent as a nation. I work in healthcare and I work really hard but my husband and I and our kids do our housework and my conscience is clear