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CTPlayer:
Process crimes that had nothing to do with Russian collusion, because there wasn't any collusion. If that is the type of corrupt government, targeting political opponents, you want that is sad. Now hopefully we can get a Special Counsel appointed to investigate The Bidens/Ukraine, real stuff like kickbacks, illegal lobbying etc.

I fully expect this decision to be overturned on appeal

TheShopKeeper:
...I guess you will be perfectly happy if your boss in front of your colleagues and general public said that you as his employee, "is very useless and have been a very bad news"...and that he can hire or fire you at his pleasure...

That would be rude but it's certainly not a criminal or impeachable offence. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors and he can hire or fire them at his pleasure

TheShopKeeper:
...How bad can this get...Trump doing what he knows best to do...tweeting...his live tweet attacking the former Ukraine Ambassador Yovanovitch being read live by Adam Schiff at the public impeachment hearing...this is another crime committed by Trump in real time - 'witness intimidation'...

feedthenation:
Witness Intimidation - yes another crime to be added to other impeachment crimes. A good piece of evidence if this is a court case. I'm sure the Intelligence Committee will gladly oblige.

The former Ambassador with over 30 years of foreign service working under 5 presidents of both parties. She has got more creditibily than Trump.

if anyone is guilty of anything here it is Schiff because Yovanovitch was not on Twitter when Trump sent the tweet. She only learned about it from Schiff.

insulting someone does not = witness intimidation. It's rude but witness intimidation?! He already fired her and insulted her previously ,To assert that him sending an insulting tweet during her testimony = witness intimidation and for her to assert that she felt "threatened" by it is utterly ridiculous.

kopfschmerzen12:
Crap GOP talking points. What's up with the Rudy Ukraine operations.

crap lunatic liberals talking points

Why Yavanovitch is testifying at all is a bit of a mystery given she has said she knows nothing, didn’t hear the phone call, and wasn’t even the ambassador anymore by the time any of the supposed misconduct took place. Adam Schiff had originally said in his “rules” that any witness must be able to speak to the quid pro quo issue. Yovanovitch simply doesn’t meet that standard at all.

this is all you need to know about Ambassador Yovanovitch's testimony. She admits she can't bring any firsthand knowledge to:

- The 7/25 phone call

- Discussions surrounding phone call

- Discussions surrounding delay of aid

And this is the Democrats second witness

Lucasbalo:
I wasn't referring to you . It was the loud mouths here supporting a vile racist that don't give a damn about them. I don't have a beef with them having Biafra because i have no dog in the fight. It's probably the only reason people like Obixcel, Anduku and the other guys are blindly supporting the racist pig Trump.

You're a clown, that's all there Is to say

tonididdy:
Everyone knows a bribe entails money or a favor-in-return, asking zelensky to investigate the biddens in return for the latters is bribery.

The witness today confessed that nothing like that happened. You can watch the video here

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jim-jordan-shreds-democrats-impeachment-witness-what-you-heard-did-not-happen

Jim Jordan asked him,

“President Zelensky meets with you, Ambassador Volker, and Ambassador Sondland, and again, according to your deposition and your testimony, there was no linkage of security assistance dollars to investigating Burisma or the Bidens.”

“Second meeting was August 27, President Zelensky meets with you, Ambassador Bolton and others, and again there’s no linkage of security assistance dollars to an investigation of the Bidens,” Jordan continued. “And then of course, the third meeting was September 5, President Zelensky meets with you and Senators Johnston and Murphy, and once again there was no linkage of security assistance dollars to investigating Burisma or the Bidens.”

“Three meetings with the president of Ukraine and no linkage,”. “That’s accurate?”

And he answered,

“Mr. Jordan, it’s certainly accurate on the first two meetings, because to my knowledge the Ukrainians were not aware of the hold on assistance until the 29th of August,” Taylor responded. “The third meeting that you mentioned, with Senator Murphy and Senator Johnston, there was discussion of security assistance but … but, uh, there was not a discussion of linkage.”

BraniacX:
their star witness? And stop playing semantics, offered aid in exchange indeed, extorting illegal requirements in exchange for aid is more apt

call it whatever you wish, the point is that nothing like that happened. The witness himself said so today. Open this link for the details and videos of that

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jim-jordan-shreds-democrats-impeachment-witness-what-you-heard-did-not-happen

And may I add that the Ukrainian President has stood in front of
the world press and repeatedly, consistently, over and over again, interview after interview, said he had no knowledge of military aid being withheld, meaning no quid pro quo!!!

Summary of Taylor's testimony,

Taylor never met President Trump or talked to his Chief of Staff about any quid pro quo

Zelensky never mentioned anything about any quid pro quo to him.

His testimony is all hearsay of what other people said

And this guy is supposed to be the Democrats star witness

tonididdy:
Is attempted murder a crime?
Is attempted rape a crime?



... So therefore is attempted bribery a crime?, Trump attempted to bribe zelensky for his own personal electioneering gains. That is a crime according to US laws.

Where was the attempt? did he offer zelensky a bribe? did he ask anyone to offer zelensky a bribe? Lol, the media know that their quid pro quo/bribery argument has already collapsed so they are trying to shift to "attempted to " . What a bunch of clowns!!

Lucasbalo:
Obviously You are not following the procedure because you forget your medulla inside the rear of that Orange pig.

I already knew it wouldn't be long before you resort to insults, that's the only thing you excel in. I'm not surprised

BraniacX:
republicons lack two brain cells to rub together to create a cognitive spark! New logic, the quid quo pro failed, so trump can't be guilty .... This keeps getting funnier

What is funny is how Democrats built this entire sham on an argument that trump offered aid in exchange for dirt on his political opponents but their STAR WITNESS has already admitted that nothing like that happened.

Lucasbalo:
Anduku the polical expert. You see the difference between Rep Schiff laying out facts and Rep Nunez calling names and attacking the Press. We Americans will humiliate the racist pig Trump out of our National discuss. He's an embarrassment to all well meaning Americans.

What facts did Schiff lay out? he even started the day with a lie that has already earned him four Pinocchio's from the Washington post

Adam Schiff’s STAR WITNESS admits everything he is saying is based on nothing but HEARSAY:

“What I can do here for you today is tell you what I heard from people.”

What a joke!

CTPlayer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSBd580P2A

Jim Jordan was awesome, he ended any claims of quid pro quo when he got Amb. Taylor to admit that in his three meetings with Ukrainian President Zelensky, a quid pro quo of investigating the Bidens in exchange for releasing military aid never came up.

happney65:
They are dumb people..They are like Buharists who's brains have been fried

liberals don't even have any brains at all talk more of having fried ones and I'll always take dumb people over lunatics any day.

I have a whole lot on my hands now and may not come here as regularly as I used to be but I will try to visit the thread as often as I can because we can't allow these dishonest liberals to overrun this thread with fake news from their liberal fake news media. Just have this at the back of your minds, whatever you hear from liberals, take it with a pinch of salt until you can independently confirm it for yourself. The only thing they are good at is lying

Lucasbalo:
Trump is a racist and he delights in his hate and bigotry. All you need to know about him is when he goes out to his Klan Rally where he spouts his open bigotry. His base are mostly Klans and Nazis and those Southern and Appalachia Whites with little or no education. This guy calling himself Oyinbowithatan or CTPlayer is just a Klan polluting this forum with his covert racism. I will keep calling him out to take his covert racism to Nazi gatherings. Have been calling him out since he joined Nairaland. Any one with a functioning brain will know that Trump doesn't even hide his bigotry anymore. A good example is the one with the Native Americans Month. No wonder 51% of Americans believe that Trump is a racist.

You have already run to make ignorant comments without verifying if what you are commenting on is even true or not. This is the problem with you liberals, most of you are intellectually lazy. The fake news media knows this and that's why they keep feeding you lies because they know you won't even bother to confirm it before swallowing it hook, line and sinker. Well some of us are not that intellectually lazy, I have taken the pain to expose the fake news media lies on this issue. See my responses to theshopkeeper above if you're interested in the truth

GalaticHorde:
Turns out Gordon sondaland was afraid of being charged for perjury with the associated jail time and now other testimonies have refreshed his memory and he now remembers Ukraine's receival of military aid being conditioned on public announcement of an investigation into the bidens

Another fake news!! You clearly didn't read the transcripts. Gordon sondland was only narrating what he himself told Mr. Yemak privately and not any official info or order given by the president. he was very clear it was his own words or opinions to yemak in an individual meeting and he was only presuming when he said those words to yemak. He also stated clearly that, "I did not know (and still do not know) when, *why*, or by whom the aid was suspended."

His testimony can be summarised thus;

1. I did not (and still don't) know why aid was held up

2. I "PRESUMED" it was because of corruption

3. I told Yermak my assumption

Read the transcripts for yourself and stop gobbling fake news. The transcripts are available to the public.

FULL DECLARATION

cc: TheShopKeeper (stop spreading Fake news )

TheShopKeeper:
Trump rejects Native American Heritage Month, proclaims November “National American History and Founders Month.

...In 1990 President George H. W. Bush approved a joint resolution designating November 1990 ‘National American-Indian Heritage Month’. Similar proclamations, under previous administrations variants on the name have been issued each year since 1994. Trump just decides to change this...and yet to his supporters...Trump is not racist...as he has said previously..."I don't have any racist bone in my body"...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-national-american-history-founders-month-2019/

Presidential Proclamation on National American History and Founders Month, 2019

What a blatant, despicable lie!!! Trump explicitly recognized National Native American Heritage Month last week with a stand alone presidential proclamation. For the record, he also recognized National Native American Heritage Month in 2017 and 2018. stop spreading Fake news on this thread.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-national-native-american-heritage-month-2019/

Kopfschmerzens:
GDP growth 1.9% Obama admin created more jobs this time into his presidency.

I said this was bad news for some people. Y'all can now see what I mean.
Black unemployment rate just hit another historic low at 5.4%, Stock Market is up big, Record highs for S&P 500 and NASDAQ. Quit whining and make the best you can out of the Trump economy.

God bless President Donald John Trump!!!

Job creation in October exceeds expectations.

Estimates for August & September revised significantly upward.

Wages still rising; 3% over year.

This is great news for America but bad news for the lunatic Democrats and their foolish supporters who are praying for a recession that will never happen.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/11/01/jobs-report-october-2019.html?__twitter_impression=true

Officialgarri:
She and her family can be dancing this one alone.

As for me and other Nigerians, we would not dance this

Who appointed you as spokesman for other Nigerians? I like the dance so you don't speak for me

TheShopKeeper:
... the guy is a decorated former combat Army Lt.Col...who understands the rule of engagement and protecting the constitution of the United States...with 'first-hand' information about the phone call...by the way he is not the whistleblower...

...Transcript of the phone call between Trump and Zelensky on July 25...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document

...check the beginning of page 3 of the phone call...Trump asking Zelensky to 'do us a favor'

Read the full paragraph, not just one line. You're trying to make it look as if Trump was asking for a personal favour when he was obviously talking about getting to the root of Ukrainian election meddling in 2016 and asking the Ukrainian PM to do the US a favour by helping the attorney general get to the root of it.
As for your decorated former combat Army Lt.Col, even if he is Abraham Lincoln himself, How does the opinion of someone listening to a call outweigh the actual transcript of the call?

TheShopKeeper:
NSC official to testify that he was 'concerned' after listening to Ukraine phone call, alerted counsel

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nsc-house-impeachment-inquiry-concerns-ukraine-phone-call-counsel

https://static.politico.com/69/13/cdffb8a4420a8a4d8a65439570f2/vindman-statement-final.pdf

As part of the House’s impeachment inquiry, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a director of national security affairs at the National Security Council, is expected to testify Tuesday that he listened to the July phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Situation Room, and reported his concerns to the NSC’s lead counsel.

In prepared remarks obtained by Fox News, Vindman wrote: “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine.”

He added, “Following the call, I... reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel,” a reference to top NSC lawyer John A. Eisenberg.

Also expected to testify this week are Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs Kathryn Wheelbarger on Wednesday and the National Security Council’s current Russia and Europe director Tim Morrison, also on Wednesday.

Vindman also is expected to tell lawmakers at his Tuesday morning closed-door deposition about his background and ideology: “I am a patriot, and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend our country, irrespective of party or politics,” he wrote in his prepared remarks.

He continued: “For over 20 years as an active-duty United States military officer and diplomat, I have served this country in a nonpartisan manner, and have done so with the utmost respect and professionalism for both Republican and Democratic administrations.”

There is a public transcript of the call. We don’t need this guy to tell us what he thinks. It is just continued political theater

Kopfschmerzens:
Chitown the windy city gave the orange moroon hell. The windy city taking down losers for eons. Lucas your city held it down for the goddamn culture.

Kopfschmerzens:
Chicago was on his case yesterday and it was mad. We are praying and waiting in Bmore too.

Lunatics gonna be lunatics

TheShopKeeper:
...Watching the game the crowd was predominantly white, with little minority representation...Baseball fans tend to be Republicans...Baseball fans in Northern VA where there is a large population of military personnel and vets (hence why there was a banner 'vets for impeachment) and 'old money', are staunch Republicans...

...Well unless the Washington Nationals shipped in lots of Democrats and Leftists into the arena to boo Trump ...then this could be a litmus test as to the turning of the tide against Trump...this is not a political rally...where Trump supporters are transported from various parts of the country to where his rally are been held...

It happened in Washington, a city where more than 90% of voters choose Hillary in 2016. Trump performed better in every blue state than in Washington so stop fooling yourself that this is a big deal. Just a bunch of liberal lunatics venting their frustrations

obixcel:
JUST IN: Trans Cyclist dominates Women, and breaks Records! Surprised?

All thanks to the Lunatic liberals,
men don't even need to have gender reassignment surgery anymore. You can just wake up and decide you are now a woman and demand access
to women sports, restrooms
and bathrooms with your dick still intact

The world must really be on vigilance or these socialist, anarchist, lunatics will turn the world into something uglier and nastier than we can imagine

Lunatic liberals are at it again,
there is case in Texas. A mother decided that her 7 year old boy is really a girl just because he liked the movie Frozen. The husband insisted that he's a boy. Courts got involved. Jury just ruled that, yes, the boy is a girl and he must now be "transitioned" into one.

these idiotic liberals and their
stupid followers are on a devilish mission to destroy the fabric of society.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1186606837782798337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1186606837782798337&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsarahd-313035%2F2019%2F10%2F22%2Fthis-is-barbaric-texas-jury-rules-that-7-year-old-boys-non-biological-mother-can-forcibly-transition-him-and-his-father-cant-stop-it%2F

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-jury-rules-against-dad-trying-to-save-his-7-year-old-from-gender-transition