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ilugunboy: What has his remark got to do with other parts of the country are populated by lesser humans that you labouriously dragged into your comment....You may have missed this part hence I am re-posting for your convenience and others: Kwankwaso added that before five of the PDP governors joined APC they made it clear to the president that if he did not settle the crisis in the party then he should start preparing to leave Aso Rock. |
lorddeni: You guys might want to study the counter-coup of 1966 to begin with. You might also want to learn from that counter-coup that if Aguiyi-Ironsi had not detained the Jan '66 coupists in the East & promptly executed Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna & co as northern officers and elders were requesting, just like Obj did with Dimka, Bisalla & co, just maybe he might have been able to prevent the counter-coup by proving he wasn't trying to shield the coupists or even a suspected collaborator of the first coup in the first place.Are you sure Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna & co were executed "promptly" by Aguiyi-Ironsi ![]() You may wish to check your historical facts again and make necessary amends. |
Is this a relevant/related court case/judgement ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/1565443/court-sacks-ondo-rep-over |
cap28: No European person or person of European descent would treat you more favourably than a pole or german. Infact the US govt treated german Nazi war criminals better than the black American soldiers who helped them defeat Nazi Germany!You can try but you may not succeed in telling blatant LIES just to strengthen your untenable position: ExecutionsThat was less than 70 years ago when whites were still acting as barbaric as we are doing in Africa today. Or perhaps you have credible links showing that the US government also executed the black soldiers who fought on its side in the WW2 ![]() |
cap28: There is a big difference between inter ethnic wars and wars waged by one race against the other.How would you classify the ONGOING war of deprivation by the Arabs against Africans in the Darfur area of Sudan? as I have said earlier the intruding ethnic group does not set up settlements amongst the indigenous people of the land and relegate the original land owners to a position of subservience, they do not create a society which rewards people on the basis of race whilst simultaneously consigning the indigenous people to a position of sub humanity.The facts on the ground prove otherwise in Ilorin and the north of Nigeria based on Fulani conquest of their land. This however is the case in places like north America, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, south Africa , Zimbabwe ,Angola and Namibia.You seem to have forgotten that as RECENTLY as 70 years ago (1943) the whites were fighting a very deadly, genocidal World War 2, among themselves, which the Germans lost. BTW, why can't we have black supremacy ![]() I get it- because we do NOT have the capacity to DOMINATE others! Or do you think otherwise ![]() |
Delafruita: you are the one who needs to refresh your memory.atiku went to court to challenge obasanjo's decision to declare his seat vacant whenhe went to AC. he had multiple cases against INEC which were about INEC's to bar him from contesting based on a white-paper indictment.the court ruled that INEC has no right to bar anyone from contesting elections and also that a white paper indictment isn't same as a conviction in a court of law.You are correct about the bold part as per this old thread: https://www.nairaland.com/41255/breaking-news-atiku-defeats-obasanjo It must have become clear to OBJokes that he could not unilaterally sack his deputy hence he tried the impeachment option but also failed. However that case did not go to the Supreme Court. If you have any link to prove otherwise please provide. |
cashkid: i guess its u that fails to read btw the line or let me say u are talking witin the context of wat u knw cos these people are smarter than pdp and his cohorts by first creating an impression earlier dat there is divisn in the party or what did they have in mind by forming new pdp? eventhough court did nt recognise anytin new pdp but i guess court did nt say there was ntin like faction and wat did they do? they dumped the name new pdp and nw joined apc! so bro, these pple plan ahead of any step they take, they have great and smart planners and masterminds around them and that is where jonathan is found wanting! anyways, finger crossed!Such as Babatunde Raji Fashola, SAN abi nor be so? Was that not the man who wasted Lagos state taxpayers' funds to challenge the NGF Jonah Jang election before he realised his folly and quickly withdrew the case. BTW, how is the NGF doing these days ![]() |
Eroxxy: PDP is one big joke! When other MP were defecting to PDP, they (PDP) were happy. So why this noise? What goes around surely comes around.Did the other parties take the same procedural & legal steps that PDP is taking now ![]() Could it be due to their AUTOCRATIC nature? IF they did not take necessary and available procedural & legal steps, how is that PDP's fault? Maybe you can tell us. Thanks |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]Great points overall. But I laugh in Igbo at your statement that "Jonathan's administration ushered in a sense of law & order" [/quote]The FACTS speak for themselves.Take electoral matters for instance and how the "opposition" have been winning without hindrance and "allowed" their judicial-electoral victories. One cannot say the same for ACN/APC in ordinary LGA elections handled by their SIECs, or can we ![]() And that is just one area. There are others. |
klas: Not always. The same judiciary ruled against Obj in favour of Atiku when Atiku defected to ACN as a sitting vice- president.Atiku's Supreme Court case was against his disqualification by INEC to run as presidential candidate of ACN. It was not about being sacked by OBJokes as his Vice President. That was to be done through IMPEACHMENT in the Senate and House of Reps. However OBJokes could not muster enough support despite many Ghana Must Go bags of bribe partly because his presidency and thus influence was coming to an end. Please refresh your memory on this. #FriendlyAdvice. |
Eroxxy: I can see that you have done your research very well but wait until somebody forcefully take away your plot of land and force you to work for him on your own land! Then you will understand what Mugabe and his people were going through.I fully understand how that can feel. However, will you advise such a person to foolishly fight the person who took his land away when he has no capacity of dealing a decisive blow against him YET ![]() The sad reality his that he will most probably lose his life in addition to losing his land IF there is no MODERN DAY legal recourse for him. As I said, again almost EVERY race/tribe/group of people came to where they are today by doing something similar- move to a new place and dispossess those who were previously there. Just as an example, how many black tribes do you think can trace their origins back 5,000 years (i.e. 3,000 BC) to where they are currently? |
cap28: Its seems as if your knowledge of African history is missing some crucial parts eg the fact that we were INVADED by Europeans who were ARMED.The same way Oyos (yorubas) invaded other neighbouring tribes/towns/villages longest time ago and made them pay ishakole (tax/rent) in exchange for "protection". Ditto for the fulanis who conquered the hausas and some other tribes in the north and middle belt. Britain is ruled by a German family and has a substantial Polish population among others. In short MOVEMENT/MIGRATION/WARS (and even genocide in the olden days) is the way of the world's HISTORY. Grow up and deal with it. Try going to a fight armed with a knife while your opponent has a gun and see how far you get.So you don't fight when you know you are not capable of winning. Ti owo omode o ba ti te eku ida, kii bere iku to pa baba e- A child does not seek revenge against his father's murderer(s) UNTIL he becomes capable of dealing with them conclusively. You learn to negotiate your way quietly but pragmatically as the Chinese have done for so many decades UNTIL recently. That is the way of the wise. |
cap28: Do you know of any non European group of settlers owning large and fertile tracts of land in the UK or any part of Europe for that matter?You simply do not have enough knowledge about what you are talking about. The Chinese and Indians are buying up large portions of Europe as we speak. Save yourself further embarrassment by updating yourself about these issues. I guess you will be okay with the Europeans and Americans placing a ban on our fellow blacks who are there on socio-economic EXILE from acquiring land and properties there. Is that it ![]() So what if a family who controls Kwara state politice originated from Mali 200 years ago at least they are Africans, did they create a settlement of Malians in Kwara state? did they exclude the indigenous Kwara state indigenes from the land and relegate them to the most inhospitable parts of Kwara State, did they pass laws stipulating that the indigenous people must never go beyond a primary school education?So you have no problem with blacks OPPRESSING and literally ENSLAVING other blacks. That's good to know. Those other questions you raised are mainly in the affirmative. Ask any Ilorin yoruba person and he will tell you how they are relegated to the background in most things vis-a-vis their fulani usurpers. The worst forms of racism and/or ethnic profiling are not those in the law books per se. No! They are the systematic denial of EQUAL opportunity at every level of society. The story is the same in the whole north of Nigeria and is what Arewa People's Congress, APC is about to replicate on a nationwide scale. So enjoy!!! |
cap28: Self imposed consumption slavery - what does that mean?Continue with your delusion. You obviously do not understand the principles of POWER and how it applies in international circles. Is anyone OBLIGED to give another person credit ![]() Do Nigerian banks give every Tom, D'ick & Harry credit? which goods and services developed and refined by the white man - the majority of manufactured goods in the world now come from China and the so called third worldLet me indulge you for a moment- so one would expect Mugabe should trade EXCLUSIVELY with "places like China, India and Africa" for his consumption goods & services needs and be cool with himself, innit ![]() Why do you think that is so difficult |
cap28: If Africans were "fckng lazy" as you claim - why did they recruit millions of us to build up their own economies, as a matter of fact Europeans are the laziest human beings I have ever come across in my life, notice that all of the back breaking work is usually done by blacks. Who planted the cotton, tobacco, sugar cane? who cleared the swamps and built many of the grand buildings in the united states which remain standing till today? In south Africa who went down into the mines to excavate the gold and diamonds ?We yorubas have a saying that I am sure has rough equivalents in other languages: Alagbara ma l'ero baba ole - he who is strong physically but not wise mentally is the most lazy personWere we forced to chase, raid and sell our own folks in LARGE numbers to Arabs and whites despite knowing the serious hardship they will face ![]() And we did so for ludicruous price, did we not Why are we the ONLY race to sell its people to others in such great quantity ![]() Did you know some of the notable AFRICAN slave traders appealed to Britain to allow them continue selling their own folks after the whites abolished it? Meanwhile the slave trade to the Arabs continues to date, even though in very small numbers. Those are the FACTS we will have to learn to deal with and find ways to EVOLVE beyond them. |
cap28: Your way of reasoning is mind boggling - instead of CONDEMNING the US/EU who imposed sanctions unjustly on Zimbabwe you are actually mocking the victims of those sanctions - is something wrong with you?No I am NOT mocking any VOLUNTARY victim of self-imposed consumption slavery. Not at all. I am saying if you cannot take the heat do not get into the kitchen. Surely that is simple enough for you to understand, right ![]() If you cannot live WITHOUT the conveniences of goods & services invented, developed and refined by the whites then do not PROVOKE sanctions. That is the stuff of WHINING babies. QED!!! [img]http://3.bp..com/_rCk74vgzal8/TS83XZu2MzI/AAAAAAAAAqg/JXRfSeDLdqc/s1600/crying+baby.jpg[/img] if black Zimbabweans are not the rightful owners who are the rightful owners the white Europeans who murdered, rap.d and burnt the homes of the indigenous people in order to get hold of the land?What do you know about the HISTORY of the UK and the ethnography of its CURRENT population ![]() Or it is simply a question of colour/race? It does not matter that Hausa/Fulanis, for example, are owners of Ilorin a yoruba town since they are also black, right ![]() Nor does it matter to you that the family who controls Kwara state politics came from Mali less than 200 years ago since we are all black? |
safarigirl: who has Mugabe been begging? Can you present evidence to support your claim? Mugabe to send British henchman dubbed ‘the emissary of Beelzebub’ to Queen in bid to lift sanctionsYou can also read this news articles: http://www.radiovop.com/index.php/business/8593-mugabe-appeals-to-the-eu-to-remove-sanctions.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7953510.stm http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/sadc11.16189.html It seems you do not realise the blatant HYPOCRISY of leaders who take EXTREMIST positions that are unsustainable. Mugabe and others like him may need to take lessons from China about relations with nation(s) that are CURRENTLY more powerful than you are economically & militarily. Maybe you also have forgotten how many p.orn films were found in Osama bin Laden's house or how many ethnic & religious bigots r.ape women who belong to groups they consider INFERIOR to them. The whites in Zimbabwe took land belonging to blacks FORCEFULLY and ILLEGALLY. If I get legal documents to open a shop in Lagos despite not being from there, how can you kick me out? All land belongs to the GOVERNMENT, not to any indigene, you can't buy land from the indigene, you buy from the government. Your logic is flawedHow did your folks take the land they currently claim to be your place(s) of origin ![]() You may need to read the Bible & Koran stories of the Jews' claim to Canaan or present day Israel and relate to your own tribe's situation, ok? How many wars were fought to kill and/or disinherit those whom your ancestors found on the land they presently claim to be theirs ![]() This is the HISTORY of human settlements worldwide, get it? I am almost certain that the government of THE TIME gave the land LEGALLY to the whites in Zimbabwe the same way the land in Abuja, Lagos, Port-Harcout, Kano etc is being given by TODAY's governments to non-indigenes or settlers ![]() Think RATIONALLY devoid of race/colour tainted emotions and you will understand my logic. |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I agree with you here, but I believe that many Nigerian judges do their duties with great consideration to the political implication of their judgements. This is quite unfortunate but largely true. In addition to this sadly, these judges can be bribed.[/quote]It is good to note what YOUR opinion is based on. Hopefully our judges at the THREE possible levels- High, Appeal & Supreme- will NOT all express their opinion on similar basis in order to strengthen OUR growing democracy and sense of law & order ushered in by Jonathan's administration despite temptation to wield the big stick as others before him are used to doing. Such respect for law & order is what makes oyinbo countries so attractive to our fellow compatriots who in their millions have abandoned our country to be socio-economic EXILES sweating away to build other people's nations with little or no comparative recognition from their hosts while Nigeria continues to ROT away. |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]Suppose the court turns the PDP down, as it should? I don't believe there exists any judge in Nigeria who will make a ruling which could destabilize the country, when he can let the status quo be, and support his judgement by constitutional provisions. If there is a division within a party, these lawmakers can switch without violating any provision of the constitution. It is not difficult to see the obvious division within the PDP.[/quote]Unfortunately the law does not work that way. You can read up about how Amaechi became governor of Rivers state without standing for election in 2007. PDP especially under Jonathan's leadership is only being a democratic party of law & order by formally requesting INEC and the Speaker HoR to do what OUR laws require while at the same time asking the law courts to deal with the matter as the ultimate arbiter. |
cap28: The sooner the black south Africans nationalise those gold and diamond mines in their country the better.And Mugabe has been BEGGING those who represent the people he took back the land from to free his country from sanctions. Is it not very foolish that you act WITHOUT pragmatism as if you are an island BTW who told you the new owners are the rightful owners of the land ![]() I guess you will have no problem if the land in Abuja, Lagos, Port Harcourt and other metropolitan cities are taken from the "non-indigenes" aka "settlers" and given to the "rightful owners", abi nor be so You may want to find out how your people in your village came to where they are now and claim to be rightful owners thereof ![]() |
gbadexy: But why is hiv prevalent in africa despite the wayward ways of the white like swinging, public nudity, group sex, higher drug usage etc.It is thought process like the one expressed above that makes other races think we blacks are sub-humans of the Missing Link despite scientific evidence that our average IQ is the same as those of other races. I will advice you to get ADEQUATE knowledge on any subject BEFORE you express an opinion thereon. |
Obi Okpor: they are currently working on it about death penalty to blood suckers.Don't get me wrong at the first place,the law has not made any death penalty to terrorist before now,what Sokoto got was the highest punishment of the law ok?How long should it take the NASS to make such laws ![]() Despite receiving multi-millions each month from our sweat. We have had the BH menace since Jonathan won his 1st term in 2011. |
Obi Okpor: from ur post all above,i see u r a bit lightened,do urself a favour nd read the constitution or the verdit that was served to Sokoto.Why it was so is that,we are known of other crmes but,of terrorism we are not ,not of rescently.And what was the essence of my 1st post on this thread ![]() Let me remind you- we need to petition our LOAFING, bloated LAWMAKERS to review the terrorism laws to make it punishable by death penalty, since it is still available for other murderers. |
Obi Okpor: nothing is wrong with our laws.always get the fact before spewing gilbberishly.As at the time Sokoto was convicted,the highest punishment of the law for terrorism is life in prison.I say again,nothing is wrong with our laws but your head.I pity you seriously. Nothing is wrong in laws that prescribe life imprisonment for mass murderer terrorists but gives death sentence to single person murderer As you can see your insult and abuse is actually meant for yourself. Make I do Back to Sender, BTS sharp, sharp ![]() |
Passing Shot: It's pure act of idiocy to compare Buhari's statement after the loss with GEJ's promise of only one term in office. In case you don't know the difference: Buhari's was not to gain anything from his party nor the public - it was his personal feelings he expressed. GEJ's was to win the support of his party and the public to become the president. They're not just equal in weight and measure.Oga wey nor be idiot, so GEJ was not expressing his personal feelings in the old quote ![]() And Buhari will vote for himself alone and rig the elections without anyone else voting for him, hence he "was not to gain anything from his one-man party CPC nor the public" ![]() Are you working in the Standards Organisation of NIgeria, SON this one wey you sabi wetin dey equal or not in "weight and measure" ![]() MUMUS in the house please raise up your hands |
[quote author=madness.com]He killed 44 people and hez being sentenced to life imprisonment yet some other hungry dude in warri who tried snatching a lady's handbag and was caught was sentenced to death by hanging. Something is definitely wrong with the Nigerian legal system[/quote]It may be that something is wrong with our LAWS ![]() And that is something to be fixed by our lawMAKERS who receive mega-millions monthly for doing practically nothing. You can lead others in your constituency to write your senator and representative about the need to make death penalty the minimumu sentence for terrorists who kill others. That is how CIVILISED societies work, innit ? |
Abagworo: I guess Obasanjo is from the North. Why are you people always about tribe and religion? Let us always be truthful and then we'll be free. If a Northerner had made same statements, he still cannot deny it.OBJoke, a bankrupt retired soldier, was recruited from Abacha's jail in 1998 and FINANCED by his northern sponsors to contest as a PACIFIER https://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/alexandrmoroz/alexandrmoroz1108/alexandrmoroz110800058/10130368-baby-pacifier-isolated-on-a-white-background.jpg in view of the planned murder of Abiola to resolve the logjam in the country since IBB's annulment of the 1993 elections. |
nationwide1: In as much as I don't respect the character of not keeping to one's word, change is the only permanent thing in life. Another conclusion is that GEJ must have said it under coercion. The only reason on earth he should not contest for second term is because he is a second class citizen.Just the same mentality that led Umaru Dikko to inform MKO Abiola before the 1983 elections that it was not for sale! Was Abiola's June 12, 1993 election not nullified ![]() Those of us in the South have no rights in our own country as we are considered second class citizens. |
Fadelex: ●without obj, iyabo has no political career as shown when obj left office on 2011. iyabo couldn't even win her ward.OBJ left office in 2007. Kindly note. |
Sweetlemon: Seems like you didn't understand my post. I am asking why she is disowning her father, albeit publicly, yet cannot let go of the Obasanjo name. na by force? What happened to her husband's name? Why is she still interested in the gains of being an Obasanjo if she really wants to disown himShe obviously has EARNED recognition professionally and academically on that name, why change it now ![]() She also has endured things because of her name. Think about Tina Turner who retained her husband Ike Turner's name even after their divorce. Ditto for Princess Diana. |
payless: Iyabo is a beneficiary of so many juicy positions due to her father's status in Nigeria. She couldn't have been a commissioner of health or senator without her father and Maurice Iwu manipulating results in her favor. Iyabo herself is well known by her peers as someone who possesses the same traits as her father. Iyabo became a Senator through a cooked result by Maurice Iwu.You seem to have ignored the part of her letter where she said she campaigned for Gbenga Daniel in 2003 and the killing of five people in her car, which you can verify for yourself. Moreover Gbenga Daniel performed relatively well in his 1st term with PDP firmly in control of politicis in Ogun state so winning senatorial seat for Iyabo Obasanjo did not require Iwu cooking any imaginary result. |
When I read this part of her letter: eGuerrilla: As the people that stole their millions are hailed by them the innocent is punished. When the court case was thrown out because it lacked merit even against the Minister, no newspaper carried the news. The wrongful malicious prosecution of an Obasanjo was not something they wanted to report; just her downfall. But it really wasn’t about me, it was about right and wrong in society and every society gets the fruit of the seeds it sows.I thought of the thread below: https://www.nairaland.com/1557746/another-look-president-jonathan-achievements which has been left in the dark despite the enlightenement therein to stimulate further debate on how to move our country forward. Indeed we deserve the rot we find ourselves in. |
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[/quote]The FACTS speak for themselves.
