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HeartRobber:
Amen

yup good news, these kids get a loving home

[b]For the thousands of foreign-born children that Americans adopt annually, you might assume that would mean that there aren’t any U.S. kids on the adoption market. On the contrary, foreign couples adopt hundreds of American children each year. With the majority of these kids being black or half black, racism may be a leading reason that U.S.-born kids are finding homes abroad rather than domestically.

As CNN reports, the number of foreign families adopting from the United States is consistently increasing. “Most American families were, and still are, interested in adopting a white infant,” concedes Steven Kirsh, an Indiana adoption attorney. He notes that, meanwhile, other countries with fewer prejudices are interested in adopting young children regardless of their skin color. As a result, adoption agencies move African American children abroad because it is easier to place them.

To be fair, racism is only part of the equation for this trend in adoption. In many cases, birth mothers are choosing to send their kids abroad instead. Recent laws have given birth parents the leeway to select the adoptive parents. For some, having their child further away just seems simpler, while others find the idea of their child living an exotic European lifestyle more appealing.

In the case of a Susan, a 30-year-old Floridian woman CNN profiles, she intentionally chose a foreign family to avoid facing discrimination altogether. As a white woman pregnant with a black man’s child, Susan already faced racism and hate language from her own family members. “There’s too much prejudice over here… I did not want that for my kid.”

On the flip side, a lack of American prejudice also contributes to these foreign adoptions: specifically, a less hostile attitude toward homosexuality than most of the world. Gay adoption is forbidden in many countries, but – despite obstacles in certain states – the United States will permit its children to be adopted by homosexual couples, even abroad. In some cases, gay couples disallowed from taking in kids from their own nations can form a family with American kids instead.

Overall, international adoption has taken a dive due to shady practices of abducted, non-orphan children and faked medical records in some poorer nations. However, foreign couples are attracted to American children in particular since the process is more transparent and authorities maintain accurate records. Most prospective adoptive parents abroad do not even realize American children are an option, though.

“I thought it was so strange,” said Bart van Meurs, the adoptive father of an African American child. “I’m here in Holland and they’re telling me I can get a[n American] baby… This can’t be true.”

The skepticism was probably warranted, but, indeed, it was true. In fact, the Netherlands is second only to Canada in adopting U.S. children. Nearly 70 such families gather for an annual Fathers’ Day picnic in Amsterdam, with others celebrating Thanksgiving together in order to honor their kids’ American heritage.

As more foreign countries either ban or put severe restrictions on Americans adopting their children, it will be interesting to see whether there will be a flux of more children being adopted out of America rather than into it.[/b]
http://www.care2.com/causes/foreign-couples-will-adopt-african-american-children-if-we-wont.html

Emmyk:
Africa

Interesting photo

Ethiopia:
hmm..are you for real.
So you met me..I mean my children.

What are you talking about?

MrsPhyno:
Nice one OP

That language bit is sooooo annoying. People asking you 'Do you speak Nigerian?' Which kain nonsense

Exactly it is ridiculous, the ignorance is laughable

tpiander:
Na today?

They've been in angola since the fifteenth century.

yup

ThunderingHooves:
Fairly OK. But travelling to those places is better wouldn't you say? i have been to every southern Africa nation bar Angola and diversity is not only between countries but within them. I remember meeting a group of Namibians in downtown Nairobi some years back and i couldn't help noticing their wonder and amazement at the fact that they had experienced a non stop 1.5 hour downpour. something probably unheard of and unseen in Namibia but common to the locals. poignant lesson
I have some questions to ask you though:
1. Can you tell africans apart e.g can you separate a Ghanaian and a Nigerian.(replace either nationality with any other).
2.How do Namibians perceive the rest of the continent?

You are right traveling to these places is much better cause you get to experience the society and environment. That is definitely something I will be doing and which you have done already, you experience sounds so good, In Nigeria when it rains it is heavy but I don't remember how long it lasts.

1. Yes but not all the time depending on where they are from, accent, name and etc
2. I don't know lol, never met a Namibian or been there but it seems you may though

FYI, this post is based on a article, the link is there, the author of the article is Namibian but not me. I'm Nigerian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmtuv2yI5zU

ThunderingHooves:
@anonymous6 great post. Are you fully aware of the diversity within Africa? How many Africans have you met so far i.e those from other nations. just asking kindly.

Besides Nigerians, Ive met people from Ghana, Liberia, Sirrea Leone, Kenya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Gabon, Cape Verde, Morocco, Egypt, Uganda, Cameroon

[b]The booming, oil-rich African country of Angola has become a refuge for Portugal's jobless, while Luanda's elite take advantage of EU troubles to buy up property in Lisbon



Pungent cigar smoke drifts across the veranda at one of Luanda's upmarket beachside restaurants. It is Saturday afternoon and four Portuguese men are lounging with drinks, savouring the good life and rubbing shoulders with a nascent local elite. "The Angolans have money and we need it," muses José Luis Sousa, 47, who moved here four years ago and co-owns a printing company. "They are buying things in Portugal and around the world. In Portugal people don't like this situation, but they have money and we don't."

The men are among tens of thousands of Portuguese who have emigrated to Angola in recent years. Capital, meanwhile, is flowing in the opposite direction, as Angolan millionaires snap up chunks of Portugal's ailing economy. After five centuries of colonialism, and an era when thousands of Angolans fled to Portugal, the roles are in reverse. "Maybe some day Portugal will be a colony of Angola," Sousa quips.

The economics are simple: Portugal is enduring its worst recession since the 1970s, with austerity measures imposed, unemployment at a record 15% and the economy predicted to shrink by 3% this year. So deep is the malaise that one government minister offered some provocative advice: "If people are unemployed they should leave their comfort zone and look beyond our borders."

This is what they are doing in such former colonies as Angola, Brazil and Mozambique, whose economies hold up an inverted mirror to their own. Oil-rich Angola enjoyed growth averaging 15% between 2002 and 2008 and, although it then lost momentum, it is still posting figures that the eurozone would envy, with growth expected to recover to between 8% and 10% this year.

Angola is attractive to the Portuguese because of business and cultural links – not least a shared language – forged before it gained independence in 1975. A long, devastating civil war followed, but a decade of peace has transformed the desirability of taking part in sub-Saharan Africa's third biggest economy.

The number of Portuguese living here has soared from 21,000 in 2003 to more than 100,000 last year, according to official figures which are likely to be a conservative estimate. Some 38% of foreign companies registered in Angola are Portuguese, media reports say, still well ahead of Chinese firms at 18.8%.

Luis Ribeiro opened a pizzeria in Luanda two years ago. Wearing a T-shirt bearing the name "Portugal" and his country's flag, he reflected: "Definitely more Portuguese people are coming here in recent years, not only because of the bad financial situation in Europe but because Angola is one of the fastest-growing economies in the world."

They are joining an influx that includes Chinese, Brazilian and, to a lesser extent, British investors. "We've always been one of the biggest communities, but we're slowly being surpassed by the Chinese," Ribeiro, 52, continued. "The Chinese are very resilient people and are prepared to do the donkey work that Portuguese and Angolans are not."

Portuguese people are scenting opportunities in Angola's thriving construction industry: the skyline of Luanda, the capital, is a symphony of cranes, new skyscrapers and the still incomplete dome of a parliament building by Portuguese company Teixeira Duarte. They are also finding work in banking and IT.

"There's no humiliation in coming here," Ribeiro added. "The Angolan government only accepts people with a decent CV looking for a proper job. It's mostly professionals in the higher bracket. The language still matters. Communication is very important if you hold a high position and need to communicate with workers on a day to day basis. And of course there is a cultural understanding. In 500 years we left an imprint of everything, even a taste for wine, and the hostility towards us is long gone."

As Europe lurches from financial crisis to crisis, Africa's economic "lions" offer a lifeline. A 49-year-old supply chain manager, who preferred to give his name only as Mario, said: "Portugal is not in the best situation economically and it's complicated for people to make a living. Angola is something of an El Dorado." But El Dorado comes with sacrifices. Angola has one the highest costs of living in the world: a hamburger can cost £30 and admission to a nightclub might be £60. There are beautiful beaches but little by way of entertainment or shopping compared to most European capitals.

Given Angola's estimated jobless rate of 26% and its yawning inequality, there seems potential for conflict between locals and foreign immigrant workers. Mario said: "Uneducated Angolans have a little bit of frustration. I don't think we suffer the colonial hangover; maybe they do. Angola always had the potential to be something Portugal wasn't. It's so rich in everything: diamonds, oil, gold, copper. If we can contribute to the progress in this country, I think it's a good thing… There's a peaceful coexistence here. We are blood brothers."

Carlos Araujo, 29, was born in Angola, moved to Portugal aged 10 and returned to Angola three years ago. The civil engineer said: "There are as many Portuguese people here now as when Angola was a colony. There's no embarrassment; exactly the opposite. It's kind of a salvation. Thank God it's Angola and not another African country. Portuguese people are made to feel welcome here."

The countries' contrasting economic fortunes mean that, while Portuguese citizens are flooding Angola, money is streaming the other way. The Angolan elite are buying luxury homes in Lisbon and investing in Portuguese energy companies and banks. They now reportedly account for 4%, or £1.25bn, of the total value of companies listed on the Portuguese stock exchange. When the Portuguese prime minister, Pedro Passos Coelho, visited Luanda last year the symbolism was inescapable. Avoiding the chance to gloat, José Eduardo dos Santos, the Angolan president, said: "We're aware of the difficulties the Portuguese people have faced recently and in such difficult times we must use our trump cards."

Among the leading investors is Angola's oil and gas giant Sonangol, which has a major stake in Portugal's biggest private bank, and Isabel dos Santos, the president's eldest daughter. One of Africa's richest women – Forbes estimates her net worth as $170m (£106m) – she has stakes in Portuguese banking, energy, media and telecommunications. But critics say pieces of the Portuguese economy are being sold off at rock bottom prices, in effect to an authoritarian, corrupt regime. After 33 years, dos Santos is Africa's second longest-serving leader, described by some as a dictator; last week he secured another landslide victory in elections criticised for lack of transparency.

Marcolino Moco, a former prime minister turned foe of dos Santos, said: "The regime is buying banks and other things in Portugal and no one in the EU is saying anything. They have to ask: 'Where is the money coming from?' It's the children of the president. Sometimes, when I'm in Portugal, people like ex-MPs tell me, 'Don't worry, it's part of politics'. I say no, what would happen in Portugal if one of the children of the president took over one of the TV channels?"

There were few Portuguese voices agitating for change at the recent election. The migration looks set to continue. But Moco added: "When Portuguese people come here, they improve their own situation but not that of the Angolan people. Because of the kind of regime we have, it won't help the situation of young Angolans. We are living under dictatorship. Maybe people outside can't see it very well."[/b]
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/16/portuguese-exodus-angola-el-dorado

Immanueladebol:
Black and Proud

Amen please post beautiful pictures and videos of Africa and Black Africans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826tpNNrCF0

[b]I am African, well I’m Namibian which is in Africa, so I guess I can call myself African. I was born in Namibia, my parents were born in Namibia, and even my grandparents were born in Namibia. I have traveled to several countries in Africa and have done a lot of research on the ones I have not visited, and I think I have a pretty clear idea of how it is. I have always gotten very irritated with the ignorance of some people and would like to tell at least a small part of the world about the real Africa. Media has been a real disaster when it comes to Africa, as they only show the arid deserts, people starving and animals everywhere. If you have ever been deceived by these misconceptions, blame the media.

10. Africa is a Country
Africa is not a country, but a continent. In fact it is the second largest, and second most populated, continent besides Asia. Africa has about 1 billion people and 61 different countries within it. So to end this misconception& – Africa is definitely not a country!

9. Africa is a desert
While there are a few deserts in Africa (like the Sahara Desert in the North and the Namib Desert in the Southwest of Africa), large parts of Africa, especially central Africa, are tropical rainforests. On high mountains, like Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, are subarctic conditions. Furthermore, large areas in Africa have savannah plains, which are similar to prairies. So Africa is definitely not just a desert.

8. Africans live in Mudhuts
Many people believe that all African people live in mud and dung huts. This is complete nonsense. There are buildings and towns and cities in every country in Africa. If you were to google the capital of any country you would be surprised by what you see. That is also not to say that no people in Africa live in huts, as there are a lot of tribes that still choose to live in their traditional villages in huts, but the bulk of each country have become westernized and civilized. Even in Africa you find those landscape spoiling skyscrapers and concrete covered metropolises. [Pictured: Windhoek, capital of Namibia.

7. Weird Food
This misconception does hold a small amount of truth to it, but nothing like what most people think. First of all, not all food in Africa is strange. It is not difficult to find a KFC or McDonald’s in many countries in Africa. There are restaurants where you can order a nice and juicy filet steak, seafood, pizza, pasta, burgers and basically whatever else you can think of. One of the most popular family meals in southern Africa is a “braai,” which is just an ordinary classic barbecue. In the more rural villages and tribes the people hunt for their food and so eat mostly game meat and, on occasion, they will eat certain types of worms, like the Mopani worm. It is impossible to find these foods in the towns and cities, so if you were ever to come and visit Africa, I doubt that you would even come across any of these.

6. Animals Galore
I have been asked on so many occasions if I have a pet lion, or if there are antelope outside my house. Well let me ask you – do you have a pet bear Of course not, there are just as many wild animals walking through my city at the moment as there are in New York. Wild animals are kept out of towns and cities by the lack of food, habitat and fences. The animals outside the cities and towns are completely wild and even the select few people that have hand-reared a lion will tell you that a wild animal will always be wild. So no, there are no wild animals walking down the street… The only wild animals that are everywhere in my town are the meerkats.

5. Technological Void
This one I always find very funny. People that I have conversations with online are often shocked that I come from Africa and that I have a computer. In one hilarious exchange I had a guy believe that I was using a steam powered computer! Let me just put it like this: Africa has almost everything the rest of the world has, we just get it a couple of months later than everyone else. And no, we aren’t still stuck on dial-up!

4. African Language
This is one of the most ridiculous ones I have ever heard. I think Africa is the most diverse continent in the world as there are hundreds of different languages spoken across it. Even just in my country, Namibia, there are 20 national languages including German, Afrikaans, English, Oshiwambo, Otjiherero, Portuguese, as well as the languages of the Himba, Nama, San, Kavango and Damara. Every country in Africa has at least five lesser languages as well as the common language, and it is true that many of these languages have clicks in them, but they are definitely not all the same language.

3. Few Hotels
Let me just clear this bit of confusion immediately by saying there are plenty. To prove my point I have chosen to use agoda.com to pull the number of hotels they have from all the listed cities in South Africa. The results were as follows : Johannesberg – 62, Cape Town – 84, Durban – 52, Knysna – 56, Port Elizabeth – 39, Umshlanga – 31, Nelspruit – 17 and Hermanus – 31.That is a total of 372 hotels in South Africa, and considering those were just the ones listed on the one website I think it is safe to say that there are plenty of hotels in Africa. And it is very easy to land yourself in the lap of luxury in a Hilton hotel.

2. No Toilets
On this one I would like to admit that every country has its own taste in toilets. I have traveled to a few countries and a toilet is a thing that is as different as the culture. American toilets have a tendency to be full of water, almost to the top. Italian toilets have a platform at the front of their toilets with a small hole with water at the back. The Thai toilets, in the more rural areas, are just like squatting platforms with no bowl or seat. With that said, I would say that southern Africa’s toilets are reasonably normal. They have a bowl, a seat, and water, a little less water than the American and a little more water than the Italians. There Are some pit latrines and long drops in the desert, but those are mainly just for people that feel the need to camp out in the middle of nowhere, but still don’t just want to squat behind a bush.

1. Black Africans
For all those who believe that all African people are black, are all American people Native Americans? Hundreds of years ago, European explorers, conquerors and settlers traveled around the globe and developed the land they settled on. This happened all over the world including in North America, South America, Asia and Africa. The first white people that settled in Namibia for example, were Portuguese and did so over 400 years ago. Dutch settlers went to South Africa, French settlers went to Angola, and so the white people in Africa grew in numbers over the last 500 years. There are many white people in many countries in Africa, but that’s not all, there are also a lot of Indian, Chinese and Malaysians in South Africa. South Africa is known as the rainbow nation, and rightly so. African is not a race!

Black is Black
I have, on several occasions, heard people say, when describing their ethnicity, that they are (for example) 1/4 Spanish, 1/4 British, 1/4 Russian, 1/4 Black. That is incorrect as the first three races that they mentioned are all white, so why generalize about your black genetics? The Ovihimba people are as different as night from day compared to the Herero people, and they are all black. In Africa you also have different colors of black for the different tribes and different areas in Africa. As an example, the Angolan people tend to be almost blue black in color, whereas the San people are much lighter in complexion, more of a dark tan color, and the Ovahimba people (above) pride themselves in a reddish undertone. If you are black, or have some black genes in you, I would advise you to find out more about your family history and where your ancestors came from, than to generalize and say that you are just black.[/b]
http://listverse.com/2011/12/15/top-10-misconceptions-about-africa/

Well all I can say is it's not Yoruba, that language is strong with the Yoruba tribe and it's not going anywhere. Why do you think the Yoruba Nollywood film industry is more popular in Yoruba land then the English Nollywood films? Why do you think Yoruba is the official language of Lagos state?

Many Yorubas are educated and know how to speak English when they have to, since Nigeria was colonized by the British, as a result English is Nigeria's official language but socially and in their homes Yoruba is their primary form of communication. There's certain things Yorubas don't mess with in their culture and their language is one of them.

YORUBA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEiD0o0S1KY
https://www.weddingfeferity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wedding-feferity-yoruba-wedding-couple-attire_03.jpg

IGBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZq_T6n2fVY
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HAUSA
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[b] People from a “black African” background are the most vulnerable to racist attack and harassment in Ireland, according to a new report.

The study from Enar, the European Network Against Racism (Ireland), found social media is increasingly used to abuse minorities and “mobilise”racism.

It also reported a low level of satisfaction with responses to complaints about abuse and a high level of confusion among victims about support available from the Garda.

The report covers the period from July to December 2014. Enar received reports of 182 incidents of racist verbal abuse, violence, discrimination and other attacks.

Its chairman, Shane O’Curry, says this figure is considered the “tip of the iceberg” because the reporting system in use since July 2013 is relatively new.

Reports of racist incidents are gathered from more than 40 civil organisations around the State and also from members of the public, including victims of abuse, via Enar’s website iReport.ie.

The reporting system is regarded as the most credible and comprehensive in Ireland.

Mr O’Curry says the figures showed incidents of racist abuse remain steadily high.

“Anecdotally, it seems racism is increasing, that people feel a greater entitlement to express their racism, and that is worrying.”

The report finds people identifying as either “black African” or black from any other background accounted for 59 of the reports of abuse.

People from Asian and Asian-Chinese backgrounds accounted for 29, while there were 19 incidents involving people identified as Muslim.

There were 16 cases involving Roma and 14 among Travellers.

Groups targeted

Significantly, 32 incidents, almost 20 per cent of the total number, were directed against groups of people rather than individuals.


“Twelve of these involved racist comments or representations in national and local media, or on social media with a wide general audience,” the report says.

Sites such as Facebook “are increasingly used by both racist and anti-racist groups to organise and share ideas and event information”.

An example cited was a Facebook group which organised protests against Roma families in Waterford last October.

The most common form of racist abuse reported was verbal, with shouting and abusive language involved in 70 incidents.

There were 55 incidents of racism in the media reported. Violent assault was a feature in 10 per cent of attacks.

Men were twice as likely as women to perpetrate abuse, but victims were almost equally likely to be female as male.


Daylight hours

Most reports of abuse in the second half of last year came from south and north Dublin respectively, followed by Cork.

Incidents occurred more often during daylight, particularly those connected to encounters in public spaces and on public transport at peak travel hours.

The report refers to harassment in and around victims’ homes throughout the day and in the evenings.

“Neighbourhood-based harassment was often reported as involving repeated incidents of harassment, damage and sometimes assault.

“The overall numbers of incidents therefore significantly under-represents the numbers of incidents which have occurred.”

The report says victims were most likely to be aged between 26 and 55.[/b]
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/black-africans-face-most-racist-abuse-in-ireland-says-report-1.2146079

PAGAN9JA:
America blacks are mostly mixed race people of slave descent.

British blacks are mostly recent African migrants.

British black are either 3-4 generation black British of Caribbean culture/heritage or Caribbean immigrant or they are 2-3 generation black British of African culture/heritage or African immigrants. When it comes to the British Africans, almost all are still connected to their culture, still go to their countries in Africa to invest and still connect to family there. They also have a very different mentality then American blacks.

African Americans are descendants of African slaves(also Caribbeans) that were brought to America, Majority of them have European and Native American in them as we'll and their culture is mostly American but it's a racial culture based on their race. Just like white Americans have a racial culture, since America is a culture based on race Basically. The only people in America who don't connect to the racial culture of Americans are immigrants and children of immigrants to a extent on how they are raised. Their mentality is different from blacks outside America, especially with Africans

PreciousBro:
Ok I get your point now. But of what use would the result of such race-exclusive org be to the majority and in fact the entire mainstream org canopy,my point being that,for example now,a black exclusive pageant will mean nothing to white rather it'd only mean something like "most beautiful african american" whereas the white predominant pageants encompasses of all races and what not.

Yea I see what you are saying, I think it is meant to mean something for african american girls/women to celebrate their beauty and individual selves amongst themselves and not towards white people. True the white dominate encompasses all races but those other races presence is not as significant but I understand you. America and its race complexities.

MrsPhyno:
Yeah you're very correct.

Anyone who complains is either white or silly lol and I can't help either of them. They should go and read a history book. Why are there even black universities and women universities and orginizations for all these gay people. Oppressed groups.

Mmmm the american-ness shows. Nice one.

exactly in the end of the day if you've noticed all oppressed groups throughout history in America eventually end up having their own organizations, univerisities, pageants and etc it's inevitable.

yea your not the first to say that lol

Radoillo:
About the white guy, I know a number of white people like that. Sometimes it even comes across like they are trying too hard not to be racist. I'm almost like, "Dude chill, I get it. You are not racist."

Yea it is funny lol, I know some white people like that as well they are not racist but caution how they communicate about race especially when it comes african americans.

Radoillo:
The sentence I've highlighted I'd actually a great point, and explains why a black pageant may ruffle more feathers than an Asian-American one.

Exactly, Asian american history with white americans has been pretty decent for the exception of world war 2 when asians were discriminated in the west coast due to Japan being on Germany's side and bombing pearl Harbor but besides that Asians are living it in America. Hispanics are a second group of people, first of all they are not a race so that adds to the complexities of them but in the end of the day it's not intense historically with white americans like african americans However I will add that there has been for the past decades and a growing hatred towards them especially in the southwestern and some southern states in America cause of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico going into those states particularily Mexicans. In the end of the day the history between white americans and africans americans was more damaging sadly, the only other group that got it worst off in history is Native Americans in their own land.

Radoillo:
There's also Miss Asian America, Miss Hispanic America and probably a bunch of other ethnic-minority-based pageants. I wonder if people are calling that racist too, or are just bothered about African-Americans.

This thread reminds me of something a sensible white guy said about the people calling the 'Black Lives Matter' Movement racist. These people had been saying that 'Black Lives Matter' implies that White lives don't matter; that the appropriate tag should have been 'Black Lives Matter, Too'.

The (sensible) white guy's reply was, "Be thankful that you don't even need a 'White Lives Matter' Movement."

Whites should be thankful that they do not need an NAACP, a BET, a Miss White America pageant, and such.

Amen, so true there are Miss Asia America and Miss Hispanic America but nobody weirdly brings those ones up but the african american beauty pageants are brought up and it makes me conclude that they are bothered by the african american one more. I think its because the history between african americans and white americans is very bitter and more deep then the history between white americans and other minorities like Asians and hispanics(which is not a race mind you, so white hispanics may have a different experience from non-white hispanics in America).

I'm surprised a white man made those statements lol, white americans are actually lucky that they don't need such things as the NAACP or a Miss white america pageant.

Radoillo:
This isn't a goose-and-gander scenario. Mainstream American media, etc, are already predominantly white. They do not need special us-only organizations (like NAACP) or media houses (like BET) to feel relevant or visible.

Minorities still do.

Exactly

PreciousBro:
Why do the blacks feel they have to breathe the "air" of relevance as though they aren't already by default relevant ? Inferiority complex if you'd ask me....

This is what I want blacks to understand,the mainstream organisation that are already "white"established and predominantly theirs(politically or not) shouldn't make blacks want/need to uphold an organisation exclusively to their race,...it'll mean following their(white) steps,being slaves to them and eternally second-fiddle to whites. mainstream bodies that are white dominated is testament to the fact that,blacks are minorities and we don't have to cry racism when our quest for establishing Organisations that are black exclusive thereby side-lining white race in it self is racism. Or do they have exclusive white programs and systems that blacks aren't remotely part of ?

After all, blacks still participate in the so called mainstream "white" predominant org.

I think what you bring up has some points but in America it is complex especially when it comes to things such as beauty pageants among the races. As you said the majority rules most things so they really don't need to have things exclusively for themselves, its the minoritties that are affected and thats why things like this spring up to be honest so in the end of the day there is no right or wrong.

Look at England for example they have a Miss Britain but black british women are not represented that you have beauty pageants like:
Miss Black Africa UK
http://www.missblackafrica.com/
Miss Caribbean UK
http://www.misscaribbeanuk.com/

Any way the UK is a different story to a extent cause its a european country as opposed to America where the country originally belong to the Native Americans so other races don't have original claim to the land.

MrsPhyno:
anonymous6
Sorry to unearth this old thread...

There is nothing racist about a Black Miss Pennsylvania pageant just like there's nothing racist about the BET awards. Anyone who thinks otherwise is confused. There are numerous places to get an explanation from I hate having conversations like that.

Worst thing is when black people themselves say sh*t like that. Double standard my foot. There should even be more things for "only" black people.

OP do you live in the U.S.

I don't think the pageant is racist to be honest and that includes BET cause of the history of America when it comes to race. So racial pageants, BET, Telemundo and etc were inevitably bound to happen, so people shouldn't really complain in the end of the day, thats why America is the most complex in the world when it comes to race.

yes I was born and raised in America

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
That dowry is toi expensive for her habah
50 cows? This lawyer they steal or what ?30sheeps and so on ..abeg ..my brother she is not worth it

the guy is deluding himself that Barack or Michelle Obama will allow him to marry their older daugher, those girls are Americans and don't subscribe to that way of life lol, that lawyer is a fool

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CAMNEWTON4PRES:
They should worry about their indebted and failed countries ? We are only following the course of the nature....after slaughtering US like salah rams during slavery and colonization ,they are now waging biological warfare on us yet we shouldnt reproduce? Our continent riches and wealth must exploited by aryans and arabs crusaders ......a continent where countries 5 times the size of France or italy dont even have the 1/5 of their population ? Give US break ...nesides even if we lack the technological know how in some fields..who will prevent US from storming Europe America and asia to get that knowledge ..the same ways centuries ago they invaded US to steal our redources and technologies... History repeating itself ....

You can wipe off the original humans

interesting, cant stop human nature