Kukutente23:

Are you obtuse? You just quoted Paul. If you accept Paul's teachings now let me know. It's a very simple thing. You can't claim Pauline epistles are fake and still want to use it to dissect the bible. It's common sense for who has it.

I already showed you that Joah the recorder was acknowledged in 2kings as the source of Hezekiah's story. Not only that, it was also acknowledged that the story was copied from chronicles of Kings.
As for Isaiah, he wrote it as an eyewitness since he was the prophet sent by God to Hezekiah.
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭38:1‬
So where is the plagiarism when 2 kings referenced the chronicles of Kings as its source while isaiah was an eyewitness.
You have still not told us who gave Muhammad the authority to write stories he never witnessed as if he was the original author. That's plagiarism.
Let's go back to your definition: Plagiarism is the use of another's work, words, or ideas without attribution.

So who did Muhammad attribute when relating the story of David, Solomon, Moses, Abraham, Jesus etc

JimohMomoh:
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ISelectMySins:


True, I am in consonance with the unbolded. You made sense.

However, you ended up making no sense with what I have bolded.

Which night of majesty?

lebienconnu:


Jazaka LLAHU khairan.

I think we are on the same page. Using a dog for hunting and rearing livestock is permissible. Sheikh Habeeb is saying the same thing. He never said eating dog meat is allowed. Sheik Adam Yahyah, the waziri markaz, made an exclusive lecture about this topic to correct Jaqmal when he tried to justify eating of dog meat.

You are entitled to your opinion about the esteemed mudirul markaz but to me he is very exemplary. Many of his lectures have prompted a lot of muslims to extend the frontiers of their knowledge. I enjoy the Sheiks more during the time of controversy. This is the period that people know more about the deen. I really miss sheikh Habeebullah Al’aloriy. May Allah in His infinite mercies grant him long life health. Ameen.

freeborn02:


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ideatoprince18:
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Kukutente23:

I'm surprised you're quoting Paul. I thought Paul was the one who corrupted the injeel of Isa. Its he now a veritable source. Answer me first before I go further on your quotes from Paul.

However, read 2Kings 20:20
The bolded is the name of the book where the acts of Kings of Israel are written. It is from the book that Isaiah recorded and the record for Hezekiah was written in the chronicles by Joah the recorder as established in 2 Kings 18:18.
So you have still not answered. How did a book of history of the kings of isreal become a revelation to Muhammad? Muhammad failed to acknowledge that he copied the story of David from the works of Jehoshaphat the recorder in the chronicles of the Kings. That is plagiarism. Muhammad should be jailed.

Kukutente23:

Don't be dumb.
That story is a story of a king. It's not a revelation but just pure history. What you don't know is that there are recorders who recorded the acts of Kings in ancient Israel. Jehoshaphat was the recorder during the time of David for example.
So contrary to your prophet claiming revelation, those stories were recorded by appointed recorders in the King's Court. The recorder of the story of Hezekiah which you're referring to is Joah as established in same 2 kings and Isaiah which you quoted.
It is you and your prophet that needs to explain how an event that was recorded suddenly became a revelation.
For example, Muhammad plagiarised David's story from Jehoshaphat's recording and is now claiming it's a revelation. He should be jailed

NeoWanZaeed:

Laughing... This is the joke of the century

Onyedikachi231:


Oga, no need for knowing the genesis, I don see your comments and I don see where you dey go, I just want join you reach there make trailer no jam you for express.

Onyedikachi231:


Seriously, this is how you argue?

I will argue it out with you.

Kukutente23:

What a dumb analogy!! The story of King Hezekiah is a story native to the Jews. It is just like the story of say Sango or Oranmiyan. It is their history so every Jew can claim custodian of that history just as every Yoruba can claim custodian of Sango story.
What will amount to plagiarism is if an European comes to write about Oranmiyan and he fails to acknowledge his source.
In the particular case of the Qur'an, the author is not a Jew. He claimed to have received knowledge about Jewish history by "revelation" and he went ahead and wrote the stories as if they were his original work. That is plagiarism right there!! He deserves to be jailed!

SisterAnn:
Antichristian, what's your opinion on this?

SisterAnn:
Too much bitterness in your answer, haba!

lebienconnu:
He justified keeping dog as a pet not eating dog meat. According to the qur’an, you are permitted to eat from what your trained dog catches for you during hunting. Wether it holds it down with its teeth or claws.

If hunting with.dog is permitted then rearing it as a domestic pet is justified. This is in contrast to the view of some Sheiks who preach against keeping it as a pet. They say that angels do enter houses with dogs.

Deliberately sharing false information to deceive people and to tarnish someone’s image is cyber bullying which is a serious offence. To this op I say may God give you the reward that you deserve.

Sheikh Habeeb does not talk without evidence. May God continue increase him in health. Ameen

Blackfire:
Sufism and Shia are considered outcast in the eyes of sunnis, I tell you Islam is one confused religion

NeoWanZaeed:


He's not a Muslim.. he's even worse than jews

Jewskillmohamed:


Mohammed was mentioned in the Almighty Quran only 4 times while Jesus was mentioned more than 20 times

Kukutente23:

He copied from Bible, Torah even Zoroastrian scripts

Receipts? Oya na

37 And it came to pass, when king Hezekiah heard it, that he rent his clothes, and covered himself with sackcloth, and went into the house of the Lord.

2 And he sent Eliakim, who was over the household, and Shebna the scribe, and the elders of the priests covered with sackcloth, unto Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz.

3 And they said unto him, Thus saith Hezekiah, This day is a day of trouble, and of rebuke, and of blasphemy: for the children are come to the birth, and there is not strength to bring forth.

4 It may be the Lord thy God will hear the words of Rabshakeh, whom the king of Assyria his master hath sent to reproach the living God, and will reprove the words which the Lord thy God hath heard: wherefore lift up thy prayer for the remnant that is left.

5 So the servants of king Hezekiah came to Isaiah.

6 And Isaiah said unto them, Thus shall ye say unto your master, Thus saith the Lord, Be not afraid of the words that thou hast heard, wherewith the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me.

7 Behold, I will send a blast upon him, and he shall hear a rumour, and return to his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land.

8 So Rabshakeh returned, and found the king of Assyria warring against Libnah: for he had heard that he was departed from Lachish.

9 And he heard say concerning Tirhakah king of Ethiopia, He is come forth to make war with thee. And when he heard it, he sent messengers to Hezekiah, saying,

10 Thus shall ye speak to Hezekiah king of Judah, saying, Let not thy God, in whom thou trustest, deceive thee, saying, Jerusalem shall not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.

11 Behold, thou hast heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all lands by destroying them utterly; and shalt thou be delivered?

12 Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed, as Gozan, and Haran, and Rezeph, and the children of Eden which were in Telassar?

13 Where is the king of Hamath, and the king of Arphad, and the king of the city of Sepharvaim, Hena, and Ivah?

14 And Hezekiah received the letter from the hand of the messengers, and read it: and Hezekiah went up unto the house of the Lord, and spread it before the Lord.

15 And Hezekiah prayed unto the Lord, saying,

16 O Lord of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.

17 Incline thine ear, O Lord, and hear; open thine eyes, O Lord, and see: and hear all the words of Sennacherib, which hath sent to reproach the living God.

18 Of a truth, Lord, the kings of Assyria have laid waste all the nations, and their countries,

19 And have cast their gods into the fire: for they were no gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone: therefore they have destroyed them.

20 Now therefore, O Lord our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the Lord, even thou only.

21 Then Isaiah the son of Amoz sent unto Hezekiah, saying, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Whereas thou hast prayed to me against Sennacherib king of Assyria:

22 This is the word which the Lord hath spoken concerning him; The virgin, the daughter of Zion, hath despised thee, and laughed thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head at thee.

23 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel.

24 By thy servants hast thou reproached the Lord, and hast said, By the multitude of my chariots am I come up to the height of the mountains, to the sides of Lebanon; and I will cut down the tall cedars thereof, and the choice fir trees thereof: and I will enter into the height of his border, and the forest of his Carmel.

25 I have digged, and drunk water; and with the sole of my feet have I dried up all the rivers of the besieged places.

26 Hast thou not heard long ago, how I have done it; and of ancient times, that I have formed it? now have I brought it to pass, that thou shouldest be to lay waste defenced cities into ruinous heaps.

27 Therefore their inhabitants were of small power, they were dismayed and confounded: they were as the grass of the field, and as the green herb, as the grass on the housetops, and as corn blasted before it be grown up.

28 But I know thy abode, and thy going out, and thy coming in, and thy rage against me.

29 Because thy rage against me, and thy tumult, is come up into mine ears, therefore will I put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest.

30 And this shall be a sign unto thee, Ye shall eat this year such as groweth of itself; and the second year that which springeth of the same: and in the third year sow ye, and reap, and plant vineyards, and eat the fruit thereof.

31 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:

32 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion: the zeal of the Lord of hosts shall do this.

33 Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the king of Assyria, He shall not come into this city, nor shoot an arrow there, nor come before it with shields, nor cast a bank against it.

34 By the way that he came, by the same shall he return, and shall not come into this city, saith the Lord.

35 For I will defend this city to save it for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.

36 Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

37 So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and dwelt at Nineveh.

38 And it came to pass, as he was worshipping in the house of Nisroch his god, that Adrammelech and Sharezer his sons smote him with the sword; and they escaped into the land of Armenia: and Esarhaddon his son reigned in his stead.

19 When King Hezekiah heard this, he tore his clothes and put on sackcloth and went into the temple of the Lord. 2 He sent Eliakim the palace administrator, Shebna the secretary and the leading priests, all wearing sackcloth, to the prophet Isaiah son of Amoz. 3 They told him, “This is what Hezekiah says: This day is a day of distress and rebuke and disgrace, as when children come to the moment of birth and there is no strength to deliver them. 4 It may be that the Lord your God will hear all the words of the field commander, whom his master, the king of Assyria, has sent to ridicule the living God, and that he will rebuke him for the words the Lord your God has heard. Therefore pray for the remnant that still survives.”

5 When King Hezekiah’s officials came to Isaiah, 6 Isaiah said to them, “Tell your master, ‘This is what the Lord says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard—those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. 7 Listen! When he hears a certain report, I will make him want to return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.’”

8 When the field commander heard that the king of Assyria had left Lachish, he withdrew and found the king fighting against Libnah.

9 Now Sennacherib received a report that Tirhakah, the king of Cush,[a] was marching out to fight against him. So he again sent messengers to Hezekiah with this word: 10 “Say to Hezekiah king of Judah: Do not let the god you depend on deceive you when he says, ‘Jerusalem will not be given into the hands of the king of Assyria.’ 11 Surely you have heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all the countries, destroying them completely. And will you be delivered? 12 Did the gods of the nations that were destroyed by my predecessors deliver them—the gods of Gozan, Harran, Rezeph and the people of Eden who were in Tel Assar? 13 Where is the king of Hamath or the king of Arpad? Where are the kings of Lair, Sepharvaim, Hena and Ivvah?”

14 Hezekiah received the letter from the messengers and read it. Then he went up to the temple of the Lord and spread it out before the Lord. 15 And Hezekiah prayed to the Lord: “Lord, the God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, you alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made heaven and earth. 16 Give ear, Lord, and hear; open your eyes, Lord, and see; listen to the words Sennacherib has sent to ridicule the living God.

17 “It is true, Lord, that the Assyrian kings have laid waste these nations and their lands. 18 They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands. 19 Now, Lord our God, deliver us from his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you alone, Lord, are God.”

Isaiah Prophesies Sennacherib’s Fall
20 Then Isaiah son of Amoz sent a message to Hezekiah: “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: I have heard your prayer concerning Sennacherib king of Assyria. 21 This is the word that the Lord has spoken against him:

“‘Virgin Daughter Zion
despises you and mocks you.
Daughter Jerusalem
tosses her head as you flee.
22 Who is it you have ridiculed and blasphemed?
Against whom have you raised your voice
and lifted your eyes in pride?
Against the Holy One of Israel!
23 By your messengers
you have ridiculed the Lord.
And you have said,
“With my many chariots
I have ascended the heights of the mountains,
the utmost heights of Lebanon.
I have cut down its tallest cedars,
the choicest of its junipers.
I have reached its remotest parts,
the finest of its forests.
24 I have dug wells in foreign lands
and drunk the water there.
With the soles of my feet
I have dried up all the streams of Egypt.”

25 “‘Have you not heard?
Long ago I ordained it.
In days of old I planned it;
now I have brought it to pass,
that you have turned fortified cities
into piles of stone.
26 Their people, drained of power,
are dismayed and put to shame.
They are like plants in the field,
like tender green shoots,
like grass sprouting on the roof,
scorched before it grows up.

27 “‘But I know where you are
and when you come and go
and how you rage against me.
28 Because you rage against me
and because your insolence has reached my ears,
I will put my hook in your nose
and my bit in your mouth,
and I will make you return
by the way you came.’

29 “This will be the sign for you, Hezekiah:

“This year you will eat what grows by itself,
and the second year what springs from that.
But in the third year sow and reap,
plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
30 Once more a remnant of the kingdom of Judah
will take root below and bear fruit above.
31 For out of Jerusalem will come a remnant,
and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors.

“The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this.

32 “Therefore this is what the Lord says concerning the king of Assyria:

“‘He will not enter this city
or shoot an arrow here.
He will not come before it with shield
or build a siege ramp against it.
33 By the way that he came he will return;
he will not enter this city,
declares the Lord.
34 I will defend this city and save it,
for my sake and for the sake of David my servant.’”

35 That night the angel of the Lord went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning—there were all the dead bodies! 36 So Sennacherib king of Assyria broke camp and withdrew. He returned to Nineveh and stayed there.

37 One day, while he was worshiping in the temple of his god Nisrok, his sons Adrammelek and Sharezer killed him with the sword, and they escaped to the land of Ararat. And Esarhaddon his son succeeded him as king.

Chaseyxl:


Dying for a greater cause so keep your damn observation to your damn self!

OGHENAOGIE:
did Okocha tell u he is interested in coaching

Jewskillmohamed:


How many Aisha was raped by mad Mohammed today in hell ?

Were you in hell ?

Kukutente23:


But you trust copy copy quran abi

If Muhammad was alive now, he'll be jailed for plagiarism

Vinnie2000:


Alonso will FAIL woefully in Liverpool or Real Madrid.

He is still inexperienced.

BTW, has Atiku or Obi finally sent Tinibu the Birthday message? 😏😕 :