Westerhoffe:


With an undeniable striking reply with evidence, you resorted to asking an unreasonable question.

See me looking at you like…

That's the question i asked from the onset!

Where did Jesus say if you do so so you will enter fire?

Kingsempires:
I don't understand?

Islam is the composed of faith, rituals and laws!

The faith part is the same but the ritual and law part may be different!

By ritual i mean how to prayer, almsgiving, etc.

Kingsempires:
Intercession or intercessory prayer is the act of praying to a deity on behalf of others, or asking a saint in heaven to pray on behalf of oneself or for others

No bro!

Intercession in Islam will happen on Judgement day!

That's why i am saying it is unrelated to what we were talking about!

You either pray to Allah, or tell someone who is alive and righteous to pray to Allah for you on yor behalf or you do good deeds and seek Allah's help with the good deed!

All prayers, supplication, invocation, swearing, worship etc. is directed to only Allah!

Ojuntana:

It's not my fault that you sound more foolish with each post. What useless things are you writing. Are they the first to weather storms of life? Who among them has more faith than Abraham who was asked to sacrifice his son or than Elijah who alone faced thousands of baal prophets? Your best generation randomly robbed traders, raped women and destroyed towns of innocent people. If that's your best generation then you're of all men most foolish. You still can't say how they are the best generation because even you don't know. You just swallowed the nonsense without thinking. And na you go dey laugh some Christians say dem be sheeples when una worse pass them!

Abraham was solid with faith. Muhammad lost five of his children! He also faced thousands of Quraish pagans! He was boycotted for years and migrated away from his birthplace....Waoh! Salallahu alayhi waslam. I am pleased with Muhammad as my last Prophet and Messenger!

Stop denigrating Abraham and Moses. They were far greater prophets than Muhammad. They did not engage in paedophilia. They saw and spoke to God face to face. They carried out miracles and were circumcised in obedience with God's Covenant. Muhammad's prophethood was tainted. He was tested twice and he failed!! Tell me how he's the best of men you ignorant munafiq. You can't even bring a cogent point!!

Of course i will never denigrate them like the Bible. Abraham slept with her wife's slave to birth Ishmael and Ishmael is the cause of Problem now according to one JW preaching in one hospital i was back then! Moses was the one involved in the Numbers 31 hullabaloo! My actual believe is that those prophets are perfect at least to some extent! David never committed adultery and Murder in Islam! It's the Bible that denigrates them not me!

You're now tending towards madness. Do you now deny that Muhammad robbed caravans? Do you deny that he raped innocent women and killed even old, aged women? Prove that women were raped in Numbers 31 or your remain a devil possessed munafiq. Your numbers 31 don cast Tey Tey ignorant munafiq.

Show us where Muhammad robbed caravans? Show us where he raped innocent women and killed like your God sent Saul to in 1 Samuel 15:3. No one sabi kill pass this one below in history! God wey dey kill animals

Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.

Muhammad copied hitting his head on the floor? Is the anything the ignorant Muhammad cannot copy?

Jesus copied Moses and Abraham! Ignorant EZI!

Only you don commit shirk and bidaa on this forum yet you claim you follow Muhammad. You don lost tey tey you agent of shaytan

Where is the Shirk here?

Where is the Bid'a?

Anyways God created humans with brains but some have no IQ whatsoever! May Allah heal you of ignroance!

Ojuntana:

You always end up looking flat out daft
Jesus was a Jew!!

If Jesus was a Jew did he practice Judaism or Christianity?

Even if we want to agree with you about putting his head on the floor, that means Muhammad copied Jesus' style of prayer again!!
So do as your prophet and copy from the Christians who celebrate their Master's birthday.
Dumb munafiq

No one copies anybody! All is inspiration! All Prophets are Muslims!
Go and learn and stop assing around the thread off-point!

Sujud Prayer position compiled from the Bible

1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed Matthew 26:39

2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3)

3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17)

4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34:

5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6)

6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22)

7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6)

8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9:

10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18)

11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13)

BeigJawnson:


Hahahahaha... Many here... You too go sleep ... So dull like his prophet...

Hope this your dumbness is not hereditary? It would get worse in your kids!

BeigJawnson:


You are the dumb fellow here... Many hausas are called Alhaji here in my area, those who even run bureau de change business...

Yeah, we call them that too. But not because we actually know they've gone for hajj! You're an ass!

Infact anybody that travels to mecca as a Muslim to mecca, will be called Alhaji and the women alhaja.... You think you are talking to a dull fellow like your prophet?... Apoda

Afofungbemu, oloorun, alailojuti, akidanidani alainironú, alaileko, omoabipabe! It's not everyone who went to Mecca that's called Alhaji or Alhaji. Some of us are called such but we've never been there!

You're simply an ass!

SIRTee15:


Jewish religious books.

If I bring evidence of trinity concept from Jewish religious books, will U accept and stop disturbing our ears with your trinity ignorance.

Both the Jewish Books and your Bible is already corrupted! You don't believe the Jewish Book except that which supports your ideology of Christianity!

The bias already exists. Quit looking for validation everywhere!

Ojuntana:

Yeah but he copied from the Jews such traditions like facing Jerusalem to pray
And he copied the tribes of Mecca such traditions like circumbulation
His quran even copied the Torah and bible
Thus, you're to do as your prophet did and copy others na
Abi is your brain vibrating again from being hit on the floor that you can't understand simple concepts?
Hypocrite

Did Jesus copy the Jewish laws when he quoted them? Did Jesus copy them when he put his head on the floor but didn't dance , clap and sing like you do?

Why are you so dumb? Use your drugs!

Ojuntana:

Maybe you should paste my point on Google translate and read it in Arabic

You don't have points!

A generation of reprobates can't be the best!!
It is pure foolishness to say so

The dingbat that was born foolish is clear from this thread! Those people lead a country! They weathered the storm. They enjoyed life sometimes and they suffered sometimes with great patience and endurance! And their faith and deeds were top-notch!

So what of the generation of Abraham who spoke with God as a man speaks with his friend
Or the generation of Moses that saw the back of God?
Or the generation of the son of God, Jesus

Alla of them are Prophet like Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam, none of those people worshipped trinity or prayed to Jesus!

How can a generation of a cradle robber, rapist, murderer and pedophile reprobate be better than those generations?
Use your brain now munafiq? Abi it is only good for hitting on the floor?

I guess they robbed your parents, killed your sisters, rapped your women folks like it was done in Numbers 31 and 1 Samuel 15:3.

You should hit your head on the floor too like Jesus and other Prophets did in your Bible!

Head wey no correct! Better get another head!

BeigJawnson:


Ask your allah....

And how many go to mecca to stone shaytan and kiss the black stone?? They mostly go to be called Alhaji and alhajas...

How many northerners or Igbos do you see being called Alhaji?

Abeg go sleep! I'm no more responding to dumbness and asinine ass!

BeigJawnson:


Thought you said people eye don tear. Now you are asking me how many of them come for Jesus if not for breakthroughs... So na your mosques them for go abi? Breakthroughs are in the mosques?

We don't stage miracles in the mosque! We don't sell water and oil and lie that it was approved by NAFDAC! And we don't put on lemon cloth and believe it is bullet proof!

Christianity accepts fools and sheep!

Ojuntana:
But what really caught my attention was the quote below from the Op:


If we subject this post to cogent and unbiased analysis, one will arrive at the conclusion that the messenger is terribly wrong and suffers from what psychiatrists call "delusions of grandeur" with a healthy mix of narcissism.
How can a generation of illiterate reprobates who slept with young girls while they still suckled their mothers breasts, robbed caravans and made trade routes unsafe, kept slaves and actively traded them, made no advancement in science, literature and the arts and mostly had ignorant beliefs such as the potency of camel urine and semblance of a child to his parents claim to be the best?
None of those generation will fit into the society today due to civilisation, education, advancement in science, technology and other aspects of human endeavour.
Of course again, the generation under scrutiny were like wild beast and savages, killing with reckless abandon and wiping races and tribes off the earth in conquests. There were no established policing or justice systems.
Thus, or is obvious that the three generations were recessively worse and it's an outright lie to claim they were the best generation and worthy of being followed.
Only brainwashed and deluded humans will swallow that lie hook, line and sinker and actively seek to return humanity to that barbaric age!!

You still didn't say anything why they are not the best! And your brain can't even encompass how they were the best. I can't discuss that with you cos a pig won't appreciate cleanliness!

Ojuntana:
There's really nothing special or disturbing about celebrating maulid.
Everyone knows that Islam borrows a lot from religions that preceded it and Arabic culture as well.
So if Muhammad copied the Jews by facing Jerusalem to pray and preforming ablution;
If he copied the idolators of Mecca by performing hijrah and circumbulation;
I don't see how copying Christians to celebrate the birthday of Jesus
Or Geeks to celebrate Zeus' birthday
Or Romans to celebrate Jupiter's birthday
Or even the people of Mecca who have a day set aside to celebrate each god in the Kaaba, is wrong or bidaa
The prophet copied from those around him.
It is only fitting for his followers to do likewise.

When fools talk their stench gives the wise extreme headaches!

Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam didn't originate birthdays and he didn't celebrate it. That's the theme of the post!

The reason many fail comprehension is the simply because they lack ability to understand the passage or they believe they know more than the passage!

BeigJawnson:


Which your mumu eye don tear? So you mean people in the picture below have abandoned church and they are now in your stinking mosque? Me self I be confirm anti-islam ... I thought you gat balls. But got me banned on the page. Alhamduli-lie... Keep the lie.

How many do you think came for Jesus here?

They mostly came for breakthrough!

Why can't we cook with CNG nitori Ọlọhun?

Kingsempires:
so is doing judgement day that Muslims will start asking Mohammed for intercession?

Firstly what do you understand by intercession?

Kingsempires:
so how were that prophets you call; Muslims?

They all have their own Islam which is similar to ours in matters of belief!

Westerhoffe:


Revelation 21 (KJV)
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⁶ And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
⁷ He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
⁸ But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

…
²⁷ And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Where's hell fire?
Where Jesus?

NeoWanZaeed:


People reading this your comment would be laughing at you

Only jabataidiots dey laugh!

The top fake Salary Scholar in Nigeria is your Alfa.

sonmvayina:


But that is the statue of Allah..

I have also seen that same statue with that famous Islamic scholar that was in Nigeria some months ago.

I know you know what I am talking about. There is always a moon crescent on the head of any Allah statue showing he Is the moon God.

I really don't know what you're talking about! Allah is above the heavens above His throne! He is not represented by any statue.

Kingsempires:
so who is the founder of Islam

The founder of Islam as we practice it today is Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!

Kingsempires:
just answer yes or no do Mohammed intercess for you people

Are we talking about intercession on judgement day here?

NeoWanZaeed:


Like I said peeps.. they lie..

1. Define khawarij by quoting Hadiths
2. Tell us which of the definitions apply to him as to why he's a khawarij and back it up with clear sample
3. Where did he say anyone who commits Bidiah is no more a Muslim?

It's in the aqeedah of Sufi, sects, mumayiun and ashaira that they make takfeer of someone on shirk without looking out for conditions of takfeer .

Do you even know the conditions of takfeer? I doubt it. Even your so called fake scholars don't

All I know is that you are uncouth and ill-bred in your manhaj!

You are close to Boko haram in your Aqeedah!

Sand2022:


Three persons, one essence.

What verses are you quoting?

BeigJawnson:


No matter the hatred you have towards Christians, the God on who will call upon will continue to disgrace you in all ramifications... In your life like this, you will continue to see the gospel growing and not perish...

Gospel growing?

People are abandoning the church!
Eyes don tear!
Sit down there!

StillDtruth:


Told you before.
Verse 26/27 answers you. Not a soul was tsken or touched by God .

26 Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:

27 And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:

So when you see a jew ask him

That's not the question here! The question is how old were the virgin girls awarded to Yahweh in Numbers 31:40?

The other 32,000 virgins what eventually happened to them when they spared them for themselves?

Westerhoffe:


And who told you JESUS CHRIST did not mention any? 😕

Here are the ones the LORD JESUS CHRIST mentioned:

Matthew 15 (KJV)
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¹⁵ Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
¹⁶ And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
¹⁷ Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
¹⁸ But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
¹⁹ For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
²⁰ These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

I wonder why no one showed you these all these while…

So where did Jesus mentions hell fire for all these crimes?

Adakintroy:


Na Jesus.de inside Paul. If you wan believe bible.

Oh! Jesus dey inside Paul! Okay o!

sonmvayina:


Why Allah has a moon crescent on his head?

Show me any verse in the Qur'an or from the Sunnah that says that?

I still don't get why you keep telling lies?

SIRTee15:


Leave lying aside.
If I bring evidence from ancient Jewish authoritative text that confirms the plurality nature of God. Will U accept it or continue to argue blindly.

That's my question.

What do we mean by ancient Jewish authoritative text?

Kingsempires:
so did God ordain Islam?

Yes, that affirmed in the Qur'an that all Messengers were Muslims and practiced Islam! And Islam is the only religion that'll be accepted!