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UncleJJ:
Oga, I told you. You need to cite academic sources (reputable sources) for this information you are spewing.

I don tire for Naija. At least you did not cite grok or chat gee-pity

KunleMax:
Stella blog 😅😅. Guy ehhh. It's no longer wikipedia? So this is what you deem an authoritative source? Mteew

If you had half a brain, you would ask yourself how you consider a chief nursing superintendent who sent all his kids to Igbobi college poor. This was privilege back in the day

UncleJJ:
Wikipedia also says Nigeria was a sovereign state by 1960; when we all know that until 1963 the British crown still presided over Nigeria's affairs. Wikipedia is not peer reviewed, neither is it vetted by any expert. Its like telling me, your roadside furniture guy is the best person to ask how to roof a house.

Chief Peter Ibru went to Igbobi, worked in a hospital, married a trader
Micheal Ibru went to Igbobi, worked for UAC, began to trade with UAC

Dantata's mother was a trader all the way to Ghana
Dantata inherited his mothers trade, and pivoted

This is not Google/Meta money that is magically generated from electronic pulses. Even Google had first investors, Amazon had his parent, Meta had Saverin. Ojukwu had to work with John Holt, to notice the gap in transportation.

KunleMax:
Oga show us where wikipedia stated that they were "very poor". Don't shift goal post. You didn't see where wikipedia also stated that they are descended from a wealthy maternal line? Guy please shift.

Chief Peter Ibru was not a wealthy man neither was he a "very poor" man as you claim. The man was comfortable.

KunleMax:
I have also read that same wikipedia and don't see anywhere it was stated that they were "very poor". So unless you can provide it, SHIFT.

KunleMax:
Where did it state that Olorogun's family was "very poor"? You people just like blind argument.

KunleMax:
I have also read that same wikipedia and don't see anywhere it was stated that they were "very poor". So unless you can provide it, SHIFT.

KunleMax:
You are just shouting wikipedia wikipedia. How is someone who was an educated nurse and chief nursing superintendent of one of Eko's foremost hospitals in the 1940s poor? Omo I don't have time for this type of argument. Worst set of people to argue with are incorrigible folks who are not open to unlearning and relearning. Good luck

UncleJJ:
Wikipedia also says Nigeria was a sovereign state by 1960; when we all know that until 1963 the British crown still presided over Nigeria's affairs. Wikipedia is not peer reviewed, neither is it vetted by any expert. Its like telling me, your roadside furniture guy is the best person to ask how to roof a house.

Chief Peter Ibru went to Igbobi, worked in a hospital, married a trader
Micheal Ibru went to Igbobi, worked for UAC, began to trade with UAC

Dantata's mother was a trader all the way to Ghana
Dantata inherited his mothers trade, and pivoted

This is not Google/Meta money that is magically generated from electronic pulses. Even Google had first investors, Amazon had his parent, Meta had Saverin. Ojukwu had to work with John Holt, to notice the gap in transportation.

KunleMax:
While I get your general point, in the Nigerian context, the Ibru dynasty (along with the Dantatas, Folawiyos, etc) is considered old money. The wealth predates Nigeria's independence. Old money in America will also be considered new money to European old money. So it depends on the context and society in question.

Maternally, The Ibrus also come from money (through Osadjere). Osadjere's wealth dates back to the 19th century. Check out the family's wikipedia page.

PS: Michael Ibru's father was not a poor man. He was an educated nurse and rose to the position of Chief nursing superintendent at Igbobi hospital, Lagos in the 40s. He was comfortable.

UncleJJ:
Ibrus new money; how? When Nigeria started in 1914, gained independence in 1960, and sovereignty in 1963.

The Ibrus, and Modandola where the biggest and baddest. Dantata started earlier, through his mother, but only begun to gain "National" prominence when the Ibrus where already balling out of control.

Just like Dantata started with the great grandmother who was a successful trader; the Ibru's started with a great grandfather ; Chief Peter Ibru.

To really confirm old money in Nigeria; that money must be connected to UAC (Royal Niger Company). Dantata, Ibru did business with UAC. Ojukwu worked with John Holt. Ibru infact, worked, and eventually did business with UAC. Dantata at that time was the largest grain exporter with UAC, with a 500,000 pound credit line in the 1920's

osuofia2:
Okay, so would you classify as old money in Nigeria?

osuofia2:
In the Nigerian space it's an old money

osuofia2:
Counting old money, the Ibrus must be included, money na water

UncleJJ:
The Ibru dynasty.

These are the richest men in Nigeria during a period where quack historians claim Louis Ojukwu was the richest in Nigeria.

Did Louis Ojukwu own a bank
Did Louis Ojukwu own a shipping line
Did Louis Ojukwu own a jetty

These are the rich forevers.
These are the people who can rub shoulders with the Dantata's. Take note, Dangote is a Dantata!

Gone too Soon!

commoditiesnig:
Lol this really made me laugh😂.

I usually don't comment on "tribe/ethnic" topics due to the sensitivity. But on this topic my friend you're 100% spot on.. You've simply bare the TRUTH/STARK REALITY.

Ttalk:
At bolded can you explain how the British worked with the Igbo most?

History tell us that the British worked mostly with the Yoruba and people in the coastal region than they do with the hinterland.

Don't turned upsidedown the history, the footprints of the British are scattered in the SW and visible to everyone in Nigeria

louqas:
Igbos don't have the numbers but they won't hear
A scammer that will lie to them is who they want to listen to all because they speak the same language

Why will igbos have the same privileges as the yorubas and hausas when they are not as populated as them
And even contribute far less than those two to the national purse and economy

Hell you don't even need Igbo votes to become President, PMB did it
Pbat also proved it
Yet they are still grandstanding as if they can influence anything politically

IGBOSON1:
Dude, if you know you can't back up your fallacies and lies on this forum, then better not start what you can't finish! You've had free rein to be abusing and trying to belittle Ndigbo on this thread, and all your inane posts were left untouched! But the moment i give you a robust response, the spambot kicks in and my post is hidden....the FIRST post on this thread to be removed by the spambot while all yours remain untouched! Luckily for you i had a hunch my post would be removed so i saved it! I dare you to reply this post so i can repost the initial one that was hidden....either that, or i'll open a new thread on this section, by way of right of reply, and invite you to come and defend your lies!

Brendaniel:
So what does the Igbos have in common with you people who have been fighting each other for dominance ?

Why do you want to share country with someone you want to keep fighting with?

So this is what having a country means to you both?

How then do you want the country to make progress?

Brendaniel:
Your statement here was quite clear why Nigeria is the way it is today, have you ever asked yourself why the British worked with the Igbos most and equally handed over to them?

If you can get that answer right then you will know why Nigeria is where it is today since you people took over and refused to let the Igbos handle Nigeria.

Secondly, this your statement shows clearly what you (the north and the south west) want from having a country, so you people's sole purpose for having a country is to drag for power, no wonder the country has lost purpose of what a country should be because those who have been ruling for over 50 years have lost the purpose of what a country should be like.

You were so arrogant with your talk that you ignorantly exposed your true intentions of what you people want from having a country.

So this is what Nigeria is all about to you people?

Solofresh2:
It take a spiritually awakened soul to understand this
You are right 💯

budaatum:
Actually, the reason you have red pill men is because the men eating the red pill are insufficiently educated and do not know how to relate to women and others. If they were decent self respecting men, they'd have found a woman who respects them instead of chewing them up and spitting them out.

But don't take my word for it. Create a thread asking if men here have found decent women who respect them and whom they respect in return.

As for Adam, if Eve had not fed him the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he'd have still been naked and enslaved in Eden and wouldn't have populated the earth.

budaatum:
Some people must have grown up with very bad mothers to think and reason this way.

buckeyemedia:
Very intelligent fellow I must commend.