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smartn09:
Haha....you are taking me down into philosophical analysis of working with the lower self and l feel happy l meet you , perhaps l will get back to you in due time to share some deeper aspect of satan magic as l know it......It is a mystery that's clearly laid down to those who would understand yet l bought your ideas, one doesn't completely satisfy his desires but there is always an extent before seeking Godhood.
Don't you think that happiness and hunger ar'nt friendly. There's always basic needs that must be actualised before proceeding or else they will become undetachable block against the magician.

you are very correct in saying you need a taste, a sip of it to know what it is about before seeking Godhood. its like the tongue with its different senses. each has to be indulged so as to appreciate the other. bitter, sour, sweet. all has to be indulged to achieve Godhood. its a prerequisite. its the saying you have to go to hell before you get to heaven. the cosmic powers will make sure you dabble in it all before snatching you into Godhood. all this is not within your own powers. if you are destined for greatness your dabbling will not be under your own control. the forces within you are the ones who will take you through all the desires of hell and then snatch you out at the right time to raise you up to ' heaven '. this only applies to angelic beings. beings who were created / reincarnated here for a purpose. you will be closely monitored so you dont fall into the abyss of your desires. so i agree with you brother. you are correct. you must take a sip of hell before you get to heaven lol

Sarassin:
Interesting, I understand the concept of the dual nature of things, positive and negative, male and female, ying and yang, I understand too that Man does not have a unitary nature, we are capable of great kindness and great cruelty that is the nature of things.

You wrote that Jesus and Satan are one and the same, it seems that you pre-suppose that Jesus did not live and that’s a whole different argument altogether, I believe Jesus lived but that his life and deeds are not accurately portrayed. I believe Jesus was a man of flesh and blood therefore I do not quite see how he could be an embodiment of Satan at the same time. I think the temptation of Jesus was an illustration of human nature, at an esoteric level I believe it served to give readers a glimpse into the initiation rites Jesus would have undergone prior to being accepted into the Essene community.

By and large, I also think that the conventional representation of Satan is grossly wrong.

well you have to understand that the bible is a book that is created to be applicable to all the ages, past present and future. as such anything in the text is conceptual. it is a text of concepts. the names are titles if you are capable of extracting the meaning from the names you will see they are titles and concepts describing the purpose of these men, and not actual names of humans and anyone who is reincarnated and endowed with celestial gifts and is brought down to the holographic 3 dimensional reality for particular purposes such as to galvanise people in all the generations, past present and future will step into the meaning of these names. these names would apply to these people. so there were people who were jesus in the past and there will be jesus in the present and in the future. these are spiritual concepts. as such without a grasp of etymology the understanding of the bible may be a tad bit difficult to grasp because all the names are actual titles and descriptions of incarnation purposes in the 3D reality. so did jesus exist as a man ? of course but that name jesus was not the mans actual name. that is the cosmic title bestowed on that man based on his spiritual endowment and what he was reincarnated into this reality for. for example i know mosiah garvey was a jesus christ. i know malcolm x was a jesus christ. i know martin luther king was a jesus christ. and what was the common theme ? they all had the biblical jesus christ story. came and galvanised the people, got prosecuted and crucified and killed.

and you said you do not see how he could be an embodiment of satan at the same time. well no one is really an embodiment of satan. you become an embodiment of satan if you let your lower nature overtake you. so the title satan is transitory at best and only applies if you are not in control of your lower self

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smartn09:
oh! Mr Apogee, you has just opened up a powerful secret of the Western occultism which solely specialises in working with the lower guidian angel (satan or lower self in other words) which if l'm not mistaken is sometimes referred to, as human ego.
The Eastern occultist never realized that instead of killing or annihilating the lower self , they should worship and satisfy it only then can they be guided by the ego to their higher self called the angels.
The secret remains if the flesh, human ego, satanic part of our being is not satisfied , how do we access , who will guide us to our higher self which is the purest essence of human existence in connection with the Gods. May l repeat here that it's impossible to contact the Angels unless one has mastered himself ie his lower self and get their desires fulfilled. This is a mystery that is stated clearly in most of the quabalistic literature. I do love the adage that the wine of God's doesn't get into the broken bottle. If the lower self is not totally balanced by fulfilling it's desires, the higher self can never manifest. That's the law. I appreciate your deeper understanding.

i suppose the satanic side can be referred to as your ego however i think the word ' ego ' will be restrictive in defining it because some crazy diabolic satanic activities that humans partake off are not driven by the ego. some, not all are driven by the ego. so i would say ' ego ' is a restrictive word. now with reference to satisfying all the desires of the lower self in order to conquer it, that is a dangerous approach only because some entities have no limit and you will indulge in whatever activity it is till it consumes and destroys you. we see it with people who are addicted to drugs or sex etc. it ends up killing them because they cant stop. so i dont know if you want to conquer your lower self by indulging it. plus for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction in this cosmic holographic existence so you will always get blowback reaction for every action you take depending on how severe your satanic indulgence is. so i will stay away from any man who says indulge your satanic side till you conquer it. this was the approach of alister crowley and we know what happened to him. he got consumed and destroyed in his own desires. do what thou will

Sarassin:
I find the bolded very interesting, could you expand your thoughts on this?

and here will be a shorter explanation of what i wrote above. this is the apocryphal book of ecclesiasticus

ECCLESIASTICUS 21 VS 27 “When the ungodly curseth Satan, he curseth his own soul.”

meaning an ungodly man is satan. any ungodly man is satan.

Sarassin:
I find the bolded very interesting, could you expand your thoughts on this?

well you have to understand that we all have an adversarial nature to us. meaning a side of us that we are constantly trying to keep in check. therein that adversarial nature was the name satan concocted. its an adversarial lower self trying to drag you into the abyss of debauchery and hedonism and always fighting against your righteous half and hence the allegory of jesus brought to the mountain top by satan and being tempted by satan when telling him all the material possessions he can acquire with this wisdom knowledge and understanding he has. its like he has the potential to be the oyakhilome and oyedepo of that era and own 5 private jets and tonnes of money with the wisdom he has. so this is his lower nature ( satan the adversarial nature ) fighting his righteous nature and enticing him with all the riches he can acquire and all the power. this is the satan-adversarial side of him. but he prevailed and didnt succumb to the temptations to be one of these rich modern day pastors. so this portion of the bible is beautifully crafted to where that adversarial nature was presented like a separate entity. its beautiful esoteric literature. so yeah there is satan in every man.

iRyan:
as a truth climbs over the hill it gets subjected to impurities. it may stand the test of time but it can never be remain the same.

the truth is always the truth. the truth always remain the same. your post is wrong. 2 plus 2 will always be 4

smartn09:
Apogee14, sometimes, we all matters to cook a good recipe.....
Should l argue this your above remark,l will even make a case in the law court with defense counsel that you are rightly on point but you may has lost the paddle to a nagging sea of unfinished research.
If should l help out , l will say that , the ancient knowledge ( which is the secret of the universe, macro/microcosm) is all written in glyphs, , signs, codes and images collectively called symbols.
check out the tarot cards, which are pictorial representation of most universial secrets. Twenty two parts of the tree of life, the qliphotic tree, the qlipher and the sephiros, Consider gemetria and other Hebrew number systems, it all tells much about the ancient knowledge made particularly for the understanding of the initiate.
Through gemetria, you will understand that Jesus and Satan are one and never a different person. U will also observe that they are all parts of human psychic.They never lived yet they can manifest physically sometimes in different forms as other psyche principles.......
Should l end this with something hilarious, l will review things of your greatest suprises but it may be unkind.
knowledge is very important, as far as one is in need of anything in the world , he will everly get it. If he sincerely asks and takes the right steps.

I agree with you that the ancient knowledge is written in glyphs, signs, codes, images and symbols. I know how to read all these things. I have written numerous books on symbology. I read the hieroglyphs. and yes you are correct, some are in tarot cards. and yes ' gematria ' if thats the name you want to use for it, i call it numerology- decodes a lot of ancient and present and future secrets ( question is what kind of numerology are you using ? cuz most are fake ). And yes satan and jesus are one and the same - you dont need gematria to tell you that - the apocrypha bible tells you that - satan is the lower nature of a man and every man has a lower nature so every man has satan in him. of course we also have entities that operate solely on satanic energy that control this matrix. so yeah for the most part I agree with your post.

olashas:
Exactly my thoughts.

wetin you chop remain for your boys na ?

olashas:
Wow!




Sukkot

lol destruction haf come on babylon. slowly but surely. it is what it is hun

Humanistme:
I'm not wrong most societies in Africa run a patriarchy.

far from it. maybe the islamic ones

Sarassin:
Freemasonry is not the 'be-all and the end-all' of esoteric knowledge, far from it.

never said it was. however they run this our reality. its one of the secret societies you have to belong to. and keep in mind there are peon freemasons and then we have the 32 and 33 degree freemasons. even the peon freemasons have no access to the secrets.

Sarassin:
Well, let us think about this statement that texts were altered before being published, you do not say by whom specifically but let us leave that aside for now.

There are esoteric texts of diverse compilation for instance the Greek Magickal Papyrii a compendium of magical spells and rituals dated between 2CE and 5CE, we have the Sepher Ha-Razim-The Book of Secrets dated around the 3rd century, there is the The Picatrix-The Goal of the Wise, the book of Arabic magic dated between 10th -11th Century, there is the Liber Juratus- Book of Christian Magic dated around 13th Century, you have the Key of Solomon dated around the 15th century, there is the 16th century Heptameron. These are just a selection of grimoires that have spawned many magickal practices and schools.

In the space of 1500 years who or what group specifically has had the responsibility of redacting these texts over the years. Also perhaps you should keep in mind that this does not even take into account meticulously recorded eastern systems.

I do not see any factual basis to your claim. A disagreement between Freemasons does not translate to a global conspiracy in my view.

well you need to understand that the world is smaller than you think it is and all those who are illuminated in every nuke and corner and crevice of the world will be brought together in all the ages and will fellowship together. the forces ( GOD ) brings all these people together in secret societies so they can be of one accord when strategizing to run the world. so the world is smaller than you think and all illuminated beings are in contact. and it is in these secret societies while strategizing do they decide what information to release and how to code it and reverse it so that the masses are thrown into darkness but in that reversal they can understand what they did and un-reverse it when reading it themself. because when you are illuminated, when reading a reversed text you know what exactly has been reversed and part of the joy of reading it for them is unreversing it while reading it. its like the council of nicea and the bible. it is a book that is reversed and has lots of reversed codes in it which is why 200 people can read it and get 200 different interpretations of it. its because of the mastery of reversal and coding the information and hiding using double-meaning words. meanwhile these illuminated men when they read the bible they can unreverse what they have reversed and understand everything perfectly. so this is how it is done. you are in a matrix and there are peons aka workers
aka slaves and then the masters who control the matrix. so nobody in their right senses will leave uncoded informations in books so all the peons will understand. it is what it is bro. dont overthink it. any esoteric-spiritual book that is available to the masses is reversed and coded

Humanistme:
This nigga is just a master spinner. you stated that African societies run a matriarchy which is why I quoted in the first place by asking you if Igbo and Yoruba land are in Europe. stop lieing.

but you said we run a patriarchy so you were wrong too. we both stand corrected lmao. we live and learn.

Sarassin:
Thank you, but you did not deal with the substance of my query. I gave you instances of extant esoteric writings that are available in their original published formats unaltered. And there are many thousand more. What specific evidence do you have that each of these manuscripts has been altered or reversed as you say. We know for instance that the Vatican had their office of the ‘correctores’ whose only job back then was to scrutinise the Christian Bible to remove any hint or references of theologies deemed incompatible with Pauline doctrine.

Specifically who were the ones designated to do the same to the esoteric texts you talk about and under what authority?

and let me also add, the people who control this world. The freemasons, thus goes there initiation ritual. a man named hiram abiff has this secret and he is confronted by one man to reveal the secret and he says I will not tell you this secret, I will take it to my grave with me and he is struck with a stone and he refused to divulge the secret. Then as he stumbles on another man confronts him and says reveal the secret to me or i will kill you, and he says i will take this secret to my grave with me, and he is stabbed with a knife and he refuses to divulge the secret, and he stumbles on nearly dying and a third man comes up to him and says reveal the secrets to me, and he says i will take this secrets to my grave with me, and the man stabs him with a sword and he falls to the ground and dies

AND THEREIN THAT FREEMASONIC RITUAL YOU GET THE WHOLE PICTURE OF HOW CLOSELY GUARDED REAL ESOTERIC INFORMATION IS. THIS FREEMSONRY RUNS THE WORLD AND KEEPS MOST OF THE WORLDS ESOTERIC INFORMATION

Humanistme:
you you have accepted your mistake I'm glad.

But we. still need feminism many cultures in Nigeria is patriarchal and inequality exists.

not a mistake. the major bulk of the mistake was on your path by saying we run a patriarchy which is never the case in nigeria. well i guess we were both wrong. we run a moneyarchy

Humanistme:
women run which country? how many influential Obas are women? how many female presidents have we hard?

like I. said before you clearly don't know the meaning of matriarchy. you have your head in your ass.


matriarchy


etymology ▼ shownoun (plural matriarchies)A social system in which the mother is head of household, having authority over men and children. A system of government by females (particularly as a kind of polity).The dominance of women in social or cultural systems.

Tell me again how we run a matriarchy in Nigeria.

OK maybe i should say nigeria is neither a patriarchy or a matriarchy. nigeria is run by whomever has the balls to grab power. if that person is a woman ? she will rule the men. so we are neither. so there is no need for feminism. as a woman get your money right and you will be slapping all kinds of men upanda lol. money is power in naija. we run a MONEYARCHY LMAO

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Humanistme:
This your explanation alone is enough to end your bullshit argument. it shows you clearly run a patriarchy in yorubaland.

Akan society is matrilineal thet trace their ancestry through their female and they pocess the same biological traits as the rest of us.

Also you need to get yourself an embroyology text book. it is not the sperm that grows, the sperm combines with the ovum to form an embryo.

The woman also contributes her genetic materials also so don't reduce her to just an incubator you sexist prig lieing about yoruba land being a matriarchy.

and again i repeat, matriachy is not in who you trace your genetics through. it is in how women are perceived in society. arab country for example ? that is a patriarchal society. women are not allowed to drive or to be out in public without a man or without covering their face. in nigeria ? women can be whatever they want to be. women run the house. rich women run the country. alakija and diezani used to slap men upanda. whats my point ? nigeria is matriachal and not patriachal so feminism is a mute point. feminism is borne out of oppresion of women. so keep quiet bro. you are a mangina.

Sarassin:
Thank you, but you did not deal with the substance of my query. I gave you instances of extant esoteric writings that are available in their original published formats unaltered. And there are many thousand more. What specific evidence do you have that each of these manuscripts has been altered or reversed as you say. We know for instance that the Vatican had their office of the ‘correctores’ whose only job back then was to scrutinise the Christian Bible to remove any hint or references of theologies deemed incompatible with Pauline doctrine.

Specifically who were the ones designated to do the same to the esoteric texts you talk about and under what authority?

well those texts were altered before being published. the correct one will be kept in the vaults and the altered one is for the masses. this has been going on since the beginning of the world. point being the original published formats were altered before being published. its not like someone published it and then someone reversed the work after it was published. it was altered before being published. let me tell you a story in the 1700s about a guy in america who was a top guy in the freemason. had access to some of the correct secrets and decided he wanted to make it available to the public. high powered men the likes of george washington etc broke into his house at night and told him to say his last prayers. after which they tortured and drowned him. very huge and popular case in the 1700s. whats the point ? real information is not released to the public. his name was william morgan

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Humanistme:
British royal house is rooted in partriachy don't let mordenisation fool you. just ask king Henry the eight and his wives.

you know you are lieing as per your last point.How many Yoruba kingdom's are headed by women?

Do you trace your ancestry through your mothers?

What is the name of the most ancient matriarch of Yoruba land. I only know about Obatala and lamurudu. and they are clearly males. why don't you trace your lineage thru females?

As I said earlier you need to Google the meaning of matriarchy because you clearly don't know the meaning.

you dont trace the lineage through females because of biology. humans are sperm-cells and the egg is like the incubator or the house where the sperm cells grow. if you look at a baby in the womb its shaped like a big sperm cell. so the sperm-cell is who you are. this is why ancestry is traced through fathers / males. its biology and nothing to do with patriarchy

lekkie073:
brother we have heard u sir.
let's make do with what we have while waiting for ur own textbook to come out. or r we suppose to throw away all texts because a certain Plato wannabe said so

lol i was only replying to Sarrasin's post. I thought it would be quite rude to ignore it. As for throwing away all the texts ? i wouldnt suggest you do because even in the corrupted versions there is a bit of enlightenment to be had from it. nothing that would change your life, but enough to sharpen your spiritual wit

Humanistme:
no it doesn't go both ways

I havent seen the magun you are talking about.

As for your last point tell that to your people that were screaming it is our culture when wuraola fell out with Oba.

lest I forget do you trace your ancestry from your mother's side in Yoruba land?

Also is the women the head of the households in Yoruba families.

your head is stuck far up your ass that you don't know the meaning of matriachial.

you havent seen magun that catches men ? you havent seen wives that use juju so that their men get stuck to the woman ? or juju by women where you will not get erection again ? lmao siddon there.

as for wuraola and oni, that is a special case for royalty that applies all over the world. when diana divorced charles and she was dating dodi fayed the whole british establishment were angry and in fact some say she was killed. point being royalties all over the world have their own protocols and that has nothing to do with society at large. it is just royalty protocol

the head of most yoruba families are the women. the man is just like a non-existent figure head. its the woman laying down all the laws

well he is 24. he is either rising or falling lol. brexit was june 24. all his friends are exiting

Adaumunocha:
I back out. Bye

bye. next time pick your battles. this one is not a battle. lol

Humanistme:
That is why the wife much worship all the male and female in laws whether they are younger than her doesn't matter.


That is also the reason why magun dey catch only the cheating wife never the cheating husband.

oh lest I forget divorced queen is soiled forever no man can have her, while the randy kings go on to have as many women as he wants.



matriarchy my foot.

must the wife worship the inlaws ? it goes both ways, the husband must worship his inlaws too.

does magun catch cheating wife ? they also have magun that catches cheating husband

are divorced queens soiled forever ? not if she is very fine. a fine woman will always have men knocking on her door

Sarassin:
I find this statement of yours that all esoteric texts available to the public are reversed to be rather curious. You do not say what form this reversal takes. To be sure, it is true that in many grimoires, and ancient writings crucial steps within certain rituals were redacted or obscured, principally to protect the uninitiated from harm, some texts being so powerful that merely reading them to one’s self can have profound effects. But even so your assertion that all esoteric texts in the public domain are reversed is in my view simply not rooted in fact.

There are priceless esoteric volumes available in the great libraries of the world, you will find many such texts available at the US library of congress for instance in their original forms, go to libraries in Geneva, London or in fact all over the western world and you will find researchers and practitioners delving into the mysteries of original esoteric texts. Can one possibly read the works of the likes of Agrippa, John Dee, or study the esoteric writings of Johann Reuchlin in 'De Arte Cabbalistica' or the fully extant works of Johannes Trimethius and still state that these are all reversed?

brother, you need to understand that you exist in a concocted close knit matrix and this has been the case forever. a few are uplifted into the light so as to guide the peons and amongst the illuminated the wisdom is born and dies with. the wisdom is not to be shared. people get killed trying to share wisdom. any wisdom that is shared is purposely rewired and then disseminated to the masses who also are craving some form of spirituality. This has been the case right from ancient kemet when for example the priests had a different understanding of something while what they tell the masses is something different. nothing new under the sun. and honestly I can see why its like that because its like casting pearls before swines. its ECHOED in the biblical texts when they said - WHY DO YOU SPEAK TO THESE PEONS IN PARABLES ? - and he said to them it is not given to THEM to understand the secrets of the world. nothing new under the sun bro. no esoteric knowledge of value or worth is shared in public texts. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know.

Humanistme:
stop spewing trash. what is the percentage of matriarchal societies compared to patriarchal ones.

Igboland and Yoruba land is European abi
?

Swaziland is also in America?

sense fall on you. yorubaland is matriachal

goslowgoslow:
Why una dey mumu like this for Africa? What pressure because her sister born and she never born?

MY BIGGEST REGRET IN LIFE IS THAT I DIDNT HAVE ANY CHILDREN. Theresa May. British Prime Minister. age 61