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Foreign Affairs / Re: Will Russia And China Hold Their Fire Until War Is The Only Alternative? — P.C.R by ApolloFist: 12:07pm On Jan 16, 2015
There's a even deeper game at play here. America is driving oil prices down for reasons the news won't report. It would seem that the Saudi's are playing along to retain their market sharr but one has to ask, why would they risk bottoming oil prices? What are they gaining from dropping oil prices. Increasing Israel's presence in that market? Weakining Africa's hold on its reserves to buy them? Why would they risk painting Russia into a corner like they are? Why are they helping China boost its holdings? Because America, Israel and China are in bed together. That's why. Israel is positioning itself as a world power and for that to happen. They must eliminate Russia & make deals with China & since they own America, they use its millitary might and media hold to control the rest of the world.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Are Blacks More Fixated On Colour Than Whites? by ApolloFist: 11:54am On Jan 16, 2015
I think whites are heavily fixated on colour but with blacks its more pronounced because we are still validating our worth. My main concern is how much we still seek out the approval of white people more than approval of ourselves. Considering the kinds of things we have been subjected to and how we came out. We are an outstanding race. Of great stature and its time we recognized it. Not to validate, but to get on with proving why.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Foreigners Are Not Lazy Like You Poor South Africans - Zuma Says by ApolloFist: 11:25am On Jan 16, 2015
I like how you argue Morpheus. I bring you facts about your country as to why you can never compare to South Africa and its reality and you say "So we've been saying that since 2008. South Africa. blah blah bla duh duh duh. Look at me I'm clever." You don't like me rehashing the truth about Nigeria yet you say all this garbage about South Africa. I'm done with you. You're more concerned about having the last word & being right than engaging in debate & resolving a point. In SA we breed chess masters, inventors, pioneers and from the soil of South Africa. Not by way of UK or USA 2nd gen. Our world class is home brewed. Listen to your man coz he echoes what I said when y'all called me upiddity. D--k waving contests are for children and under developed minds.As Africans we should be competing and learning from each other's strengths, and point out our weaknesses to eliminate them. Not to gossip and talk garbage. In South Africa we have our problems. But we are progressing at a hell of a rate. We are not just producing rich people, we are producing trail making world class artists, inventors & business men. South Africans are more concerned with boosting their already diverse economy by strengthening our intellectual property and boosting our industrial might. We learned from the mistakes you guys made and trust me, the big picture is slowly coming to fruition. Our middle class population grows exponentially and our net grows wider. 20 years is nothing. Talk this crap in the next 20. The things you guys were exposed to even in the 60's we only got now and in a lot of respects, we have over taken you. With a 3rd of your population. We are also learning from all this crap you spew and working on it. Because we improve when criticized. You say we're lazy. We roll up our sleaves and work harder. Thats the difference between Us and You. We pay attention to everything. And if its bad but true, we fix it. Thats why every generation is better than the last. We learn from making lots and lots of mistakes. But at some point, as always. The mistakes stop. We are already world class in so many vocations that we are in Nigeria, Dubai, Angola & Ghana sharing our expertise. Blacks. From SA. We are head hunted in Ireland, London, Italy and America for our skills. And when we get there, we are usually the 1st blacks to excell to their ranks. But born in SA & Botswana. Not 2nd generation diaspora. Exports tooled and purposed here. Thats just in a 20 year span. Staying as far down from the west as we do. Consider your population, where you are stationed & you'll arive at inevitabillity. Do the same for SA and you'll arive at true grit. We're not shameless self promoters like you. We don't buy our way into everything like you. We're like Zimbabwens, we let our works do the talking.
Foreign Affairs / Re: South African Blacks - Could It Be Inferiority Complex? by ApolloFist: 8:00am On Jan 16, 2015
Nigerians aren't diseased and stoopid. They hustle hard and NL is a cool forum. Lets not let their monumental panchent simple minded thinking steer us from giving them their due. We have forums in SA but you don't know about them because Nigerians aren't really interested in anyone but themselves. And being that we don't really talk about you on those forums, I'm not surprised you ignore them. Now that I'm done probing and I've made up my mind. Let me conclude by saying to my SA brothers. Don't bother arguing with Nigerians. They're more concerned with being right or winning than gaining actual perspective. They have a hard on for South Africans. Thats why they pay so much money just to screw our b-tches and talk so much sh-t about us. And even if you were to engage in a open and healthy debate with them, it would be rendered pointless because they are incapable of being objective and believe in the magnificence of their mediocrity. And to continue feeding into their tribalist crap will only frustrate you. Like one usually does get arguing with a fool. They have their strengths. Learn those and dismiss their simple minds. They can't help it. They'll judge you for xenophobic attacks while they have a history of inflicting attacks on each other. Way before some of their own sent a 10 year old to bomb an entire settlement. Their soldiers would go into villages and massacre the fathers, rape the daughters & mothers while the sons watched. Cut off the mother's breasts so that they couldn't breastfeed. This was happening before Boko Haram. As recent as 15 years even. On their own people. Look how dirty they make parts of our country that they live in. The concept of looking after their environment is lost on them. Just go to the Delta regions and you'll see. So superior are they, just look how far they've come since independence. 60 years down. South Africa saved Africa from plunging into a black hole by showing them the importance of foreign investment and keeping your infrastructure up and running. Investing back into your country. They never knew that stuff before us. Superior my a$$. Lagos beaches were lined with shacks up until 2005 even. Who do you think showed them the value of tourism? Farming? They are only waking up to their agricultural prospects now. And I mean now as in 2010. Before, they thought focusing almost entirely on oil was the smart choice. These superior Nigerians who say SA depends on whites would rather go to war with themselves while Royal Dutch Shell f--ks them out of their birth right. Whites are their masters via remote control. This is who you are arguing with. They have had exposure to the west for way longer than us and look at the bang up job they've done. Oh wait that is China's doing and SA. Nigeria was a organised mess well into the early 2000's and still is. F--k arguing with these simpletons. what the f--k do they know anyway. You get a leg up from China, now you think you're hot sh-t? F--k off with that dumb sh-t. Check yourself before you talk sh-t about us. Wanksters.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: South African Blacks - Could It Be Inferiority Complex? by ApolloFist: 8:40am On Jan 13, 2015
A Fake uppidity negro that crushed your whole sh-t. You're right little buddy. The bible said it, don't argue with fools. I'm sure monthlyspectator realized it too at some point. He or she crushed your whole thread anyway. I really should stop coz the debators on this thread don't have anything real and tangible to say. Except 'we've been discussing this for years on this forum.' When someone gets it in on them. With real facts. I noticed that none of you have googled what I said you should. When we were Africas biggest economy we were also its richest & most diverse. And still are. You're only the biggest economy because of your population. If oil prices continue like they are you're pretty much screwed. Where as in SA, if one thing drops. We pick up another or another and the game doesn't stop. Including intellectual property. We are ahead of you in everyway including our thinking. We believe in a United Africa. You clearly don't. Not that anyone gives a sh-t. Your last reply just makes you look like a d--k. You bring this stuff up and when things get real you yawn? Good for you.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Foreigners Are Not Lazy Like You Poor South Africans - Zuma Says by ApolloFist: 8:15am On Jan 13, 2015
No comeback except a yawn. And we've been debating this for years on this forum? Thats it? Thats all you got?
More proof of how South Africa out classes you. We will debate you to your grave. Get a clue little buddy. When you swim with the big boys, you better know how to hold your breath coz it gets real. Fast.

Xenophobic people. Really we're gonna go there? Boko Haram anyone? 200 missing girls anyone? Teenage Suicide bombers who killed hundreds anyone? Instead you're gonna bust my chops to why South Africans finally snapped at the continual intrusion of the foreign presents in their country as most countries do. Really? Hey why not talk about how much AIDS we got. Oh no wait you can always talk about...oh no thats it isn't it? When the truth is in your face you retreat like little girls and lash out. Hm ofcourse. Now I'm also a slowpoke for responding to a few pounts you brought up.
Foreign Affairs / Re: South African Blacks - Could It Be Inferiority Complex? by ApolloFist: 2:55am On Jan 13, 2015
This tribalism nonsense is what keeps Africans from getting it together. Its good to discuss these things and exchange knowledge by engaging in debate. But when people start calling each other names and saying they are diseased or smell or are sub human. Its wrong and gets us no where. The Chinese & Europeans see us as Africans
Not Zulu or Yoruba or Sotho or Hauser *spell check or Xhosa or Igbo. They see negroes.

Africans are already divided & if we could use forums like these for positive exchanges & healthy debate, instead of hurling obsene jabs at each other, where nothing comes of it. We can biild Africa as its meant to be.

We should profit from such platforms, not finger pointing each other.
Foreign Affairs / Re: South African Blacks - Could It Be Inferiority Complex? by ApolloFist: 2:02am On Jan 13, 2015
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop answering for the sake of answering. Its really annoying now. Are you not capable of engaging in debate? Pre 1994, white people were already emmigrating to Canada and Australia thinking Mandela was gonna pull a Mugabe. But he didn't, instead he kept them around, implimented legislation that would ensure that blacks in South Africa would not only learn from whites but take over. And when Affirmative Action didn't work, they implimemted legislation to make sure that blacks were put in key positions in corporations that played a key role in running our economy. Black Economic Empowerment. Our leaders had the intelligence to do that and if you look at SAB/ Miller (the world's biggest brewery, MTN and many other corporations. Blacks hold key positions there. Its law.

Look buddy you're out of your depth discussing SA politics & the economy
And again you've said nothing. Stick to the d--k waving contest, you have a better chance there. But our output, out classes yours. And we are starting to out class the whites too. Don't believe everything you read. Rather research online. Do me a favour look up Africa's biggest economies & see where Nigeria is, then look up Africa's richest countries then see where Nigeria is. Then look up Africas most diverse economies and see where Nigeria is. Then see where South Africa is & get back to me.

Oh by the way, Royal Dutch Shell and
China own your economy, not you.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Foreigners Are Not Lazy Like You Poor South Africans - Zuma Says by ApolloFist: 1:36am On Jan 13, 2015
Fact: Nigeria is Royal Dutch Shell & B.P's subsidiary. China is buying up all your banks and will own your infrastructure since it is building it. South Africa gives you your television & cellphones and if you think Nigeria is owned by Nigerians then damn you need to do your math. 80% of your economy depends on oil. Who do you think owns that oil? You or RDS? and now it seems China too. The only reason investors are flocking to your country is because you are more than eager to suck their d--ks. You are mindless consumers and they want to capitalize on that.

You take excerpts from my response and reply with empty rebutals at worst. I will admit, I unfair to call you lazy. Its not true. I have respect for how you guys have entrepeneural savvy, feirce will & strong spirits. A respect I reserve to serve myself not you. You see, I don't mind giving credit where its due because I believe in my abillities & have no need to compare myself to anyone, to validate them. Unlike you Nigerians. You say whites run SA but you treat them like gods over here. They charge you more than 400% percent for their services & business and you KNOWINGLY pay them. But when a black man with the same, if not better expertise comes and offers the same business & services at the actual price, you say No. Even when that guy has a genuine interest in adding value out here. So sad when house negroes act high and mighty. We in SA don't talk too much coz we're learning you, learning whites & learning the Chinese. Our middle class & elite are slowly building a strong black SA economy while you talk sh-t & eay what the media gives you. There are so many things happening in SA that the media doesn't report & the long term effects are going to be glorious. So keep talking, coz you clearly have no idea. By the time 20 years have passed we will have out classed you in every aspect of human development. As we are already doing.

We criticize ourselves just as you do but we are learning and growing from them. Not denying like you. & no amount of rebutals & mockery will change that. Keep celebrating your mediocre output & posting crap about us Mzansi blacks. It won't change the fact that South Africa's blacks are feircely talented & feircely world class when applying those talents. When we get it right, we get it RIGHT. Because we know exactly whats wrong. So carry on with your crap. Cook up some clever retorts. But keep watching. You're about to see magic.
Foreign Affairs / Re: South African Blacks - Could It Be Inferiority Complex? by ApolloFist: 12:42am On Jan 13, 2015
Taking bits of my response to this vapid topic and responding with equally flacid replys doesn't stop what I say from being true. You guys have had a 40 year head start and now that South Africa and China are giving you a leg up you talk this mess? Do you really think that you own your country? That Royal Dutch Shell & BP up and left when China came into the picture? Okay.

You say that our country is only up because of the whites simply because you're mad we had the intelligence to keep them around to learn their systems and slowly assimilate our eays into them, instead of plunge into the sh-thole Nigeria was, up until at best 5 years ago? You call us white because we can speak english properly and our mother tongues fluently (a faculty you clearly lack.) while gaming on white people like you guys think you are. White people are gods in Nigeria so please spare me.

I have never seen people so proud of mediocre output like how you guys are. The only reason Nigeria is even looked at is because of South Africa. We showed the world that Africa is capable of sustaining a developed economy. And since economy is chiefly based on population, ugh here's an idea lets see what we can do in Nigeria! And this happened because of the success of China and India who have shown in that large population numbers produce large financial numbers.

What you are hearing of about South Africa are growing pains. Which we are already ironing out. All I've read from you are empty rebutals and baseless retorts. No facts, no figures. No wright. 20 years from now South Africa's black middle class will out class you in every single way and already are, with little effort. The only reason it seemed that you were ahead of us was because America & Europe are right around the corner from you. So you were exposed earlier to the worldly ways of running an economy. But only a few of you profited from this. Your only advantage is your numbers & fierce drive, not your skills, not your output.

Argue all you want but it doesn't change the truth. Progress happens, even when its slowed. And South Africa is progressing as planned. Ahead of you. You can say its because of the whites, which shows you how brainwashed you are with your white god complex. Harbouring notions that blacks are incapable of rising up and doing it for ourselves. We out class these white people you love so much in a lot of aspects now. They, like you, don't want to see us succeed but we are and our numbers are growing exponentially. And no rebutal or retort will change that

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Foreign Affairs / Re: South African Blacks - Could It Be Inferiority Complex? by ApolloFist: 9:15pm On Jan 11, 2015
Nigerians need to stop trying to put South Africans down. its actually sad. I thought you guys where confident. Confidence doesn't compare itself. You never hear South Africans going online to post crap about Nigerians like you guys do about us. Most Nigerians are exposed to lazy bitches & degenerates. They never meet South Africa's middle class or elite because we're wise to your scams and are at work, not drinking during the afternoon like you idiots do in South Africa. We could learn a lot from each other but you idiots insist on these d__k waving contests that don't get any of us anywhere. South Africans are coming up and we are kicking a$$. Even in Nigeria. We laugh at you guys because you play into the propaganda that the white owned media has laid out to you and you act so high and mighty living in the sh_t hole that you live in with the level of quality in the out put of your works. Plus you help white people with business and get ripped off. I had to get a white partner just to do business in Lagos because Nigerians don't like South African blacks who are genuinely interested in the development of your country.. We put ourselves down despite producing world class quality works. You guys have to buy your way into everything. We are called and head hunted everywhere we go. Call us lazy, which is rich coming from people who look to make a quick buck doing the least amount of work possible. But the next 20 are going to devestate you guys. Our millionaire population is growing exponentially and instead of trying to team up with them and gaining knowledge you post crap like you do. Are you stupid? China, Shell and BP own your country, they f__k you from behind the scenes and the only guys that can help you get it back are looking at you guys saying "shame" We are about slow grinding work. Not making a quick buck and blowing it. Thats why we are in your country showing your countrymen how to do their jobs properly. You Nigerians need to get a clue coz pointing fingers at South Africa is only making you look bad & making us get our act together. We're blazing trails over seas, without having grown up or living there. We produce world class work without living in london or America unlike you. That should tell you how smart South African blacks are. We concern ourselves with being the best at what we do, not making money. Your leaders having been selling you guys short for over 60 years & doing nothing for you. Now China has to come and fix things.....hahahahaha You Nigerians don't know anything. The funny thing is you guys have been exposed to Western culture far earlier than South Africans and for far longer but we, in 20 years have produced better results than you have. You guys are slowly becoming a joke because South Africans are getting their confidence & learning their stride. Something you don't want because when South Africans hit their stride & realize that you guys ain't about sh_t except hustling. We're gonna crush anything you have to offer.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Foreigners Are Not Lazy Like You Poor South Africans - Zuma Says by ApolloFist: 8:22pm On Jan 11, 2015
You know I respect Nigerians for their fierce entrepreneurial spirit and their hustle savvy but all that is marred by your monumental penchant for broad ignorant statements and its time someone told you idiots the real deal.

As you know Africa is the backbone of the world's industrial economy. Our resources are being extracted at prices that are relatively next to nothing to keep the rest of the world running. Now if I were Europe, whose economy is almost entirely dependent on Africa's rescources, I would take great steps to ensure that I can continue to extract these minerals at next to nothing because if I don't...I'm screwed. So I can rely on two things A. Corrupt African leadership (Which Nigeria is very well acquainted with. I mean corruption is the zeitgeist in Nigeria. My friends and I often joke that you spell Nigeria with a C...) B. Endless wars, famine and desease perpetuated by democracy because if a African leaders only has four years to make a difference, why would he, what difference can he make in four years right? This is why your Delta region is the sh_t hole that it is and the environmental disaster that it is. Because if Nigerians had to educate their privileged and that trickled down to their poor and they took control of their economy, Royal Dutch Shell wouldn't own Nigeria and oil prices would shoot up for them should you continue to make deals with them or BP. That's why its taken you guys 60 years to get your heads out of your asses. (Well we have China to thank for that, in some ways South Africa too because they showed the world that Africa is capable of developing and sustaining stable economies. And since Nigeria is entirely dependent on foreign aid to boost their infrastructure, you're welcome.) Now if Nigeria is the sh_t hole it is because of external forces trying to keep extracting oil cheap. What makes you think that it would be different in Africa's richest country?

South Africa has just come out of one of the most oppressive regimes in the history of man kind. One that was designed to systematically paralyses our minds and potential for development and make us slaves. Blacks were not allowed to pursue jobs of skilled labor and Bantu education was designed to make us blue collar workers. But because of our ingenuity and intellectual savvy, we were able to overcome that government and build. In 20 years we've achieved more than what Nigeria is only beginning to realize. When you hear of South Africans flourishing over seas, they blaze trails. We have a 21 year old rewriting the energy studies curriculum at Harvard University because of a fuel he developed and since there is no course that teaches the kind of energy study he's doing. He's creating a whole faculty in that department. Our artists continue to win Grammy awards & are exported to help produce American artists records. We don't pay them to work with us. They call us. Our art works are hanging on the walls of Paris & New York. We headline at the New York fashion shows without ever having moved or lived there. Unlike Nigerians who only flourish at that level when they're born overseas themselves. I am here in Lagos to show you guys how to do your jobs properly.I'm in finance. My wife, is working for one of your wealthiest businessmen to straighten out his books (Now till April)because he doesn't trust his countrymen to do so. She comes from a rural upbringing in Natal, got a scholarship to a prestigious university (worked as a waiter through out) and is now a high flying chartered accountant. Built herself a house and her mom a home, just bought me my dream car ('67 Shelby mustang)and she's only 28. I come from a relatively poor upbringing in Sebokeng. To pay for my schooling I worked as cleaner for the school I was studying in and a petrol attendant on weekends. I got a bursary to finish my MBA in finance after 3 years. Now I am currently building a home in Victoria Island and own 2 in South Africa. Stories like mine are typical in south Africa and our middle class are doing amazing things right now. A 26 year old boy is a millionaire selling T shirts, another is 29 years old and is sitting on the board of 4 prestigious firms in South Africa. Unlike Nigerians who are always looking for a way to make a quick buck with the least amount of work by trying to scam every body they meet. We believe in the slow grind of hard work.

Its true, for the most part South Africans are lazy, but not in the way you idiots propagate. We're lazy in that we could be titans of indistry but we allow excuses to happen far too easily because A. our population isn't as competitive as yours. We don't have to be, our population doesn't need us to be. B. Our media pumps this idea that government must do everything for its people, which in turn has people flocking to parliament with their hands out. Our poor unfortunately were raised to be workers and employees, not because they are feeble minded but because that is the only way they can acquire capital or a means to an end. Through employment. Where your population long realized that their government does absolutely nothing for their development & so you must be self sufficient, our poor are slowly realizing that fact. Your country realized this years ago, which is why corruption is a common trait amongst your people, including your priests. In 20 years all this talk will be quelled because South Africans are coming up. Look at how far we've gone so far. Unfortunately the media propagates this idea that we are lazy because the media is owned by whites, who have no interest in seeing blacks develop. And other Nigerians who'd rather do business with whites and get ripped off, than with black South Africans who have a genuine interest in seeing your country develop, because they've been brainwashed and don't even trust their own. I have even tried to do business with other Nigerians only to run into big talkers who make me do all the work and hope to profit off just being a proxy. But you idiots continue with crap like this instead of asking yourselves real questions like where are all our inventors and engineers and scientist. Why are they all going overseas and making Europe and America and Dubai rich instead of their own countries. That's what we talk about in South Africa. Things that matter. And I never get how you guys can be so high and mighty living in a shit hole like you do? Why did it take China coming in to Nigeria and South Africa coming in to Nigeria for you morons to get it together? The poor aren't lazy they are disadvantaged. Things we take for granted they value. Access to water and electricity being one.

Get a f--cking clue. And stop propagating this kind of rubbish. Africa is already divided as is, with you f--k heads spreading nonsense like this. You need to ask yourselves why Most Nigerians in South Africa are involved in every corrupt money making scheme and selling drugs while South Africans go over seas to learn and educate themselves to be of excellence and high stature. We are supposed to be building and growing each other by observing our strengths and learning them. But you morons play into how whites continue to control our economies by pointing fingers at everyone and highlighting their weaknesses or your perceived ideas of them and its sad. But South Africans are progressing and all this crap will stop when you see the results. Its good that you point things like this. It makes us look at our selves and improve. South Africans & Zimbabweans are gonna show Africans what intellectual black people can do when they apply themselves.

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Romance / Re: Can Nigerian Girls Ever Be As Stunning And Pretty As South African Girls by ApolloFist: 1:06pm On Dec 09, 2014
Nigerian guys spend soooo much money to keep South African girls happy. Even pay their rent, buy them expensive weaves and get them a car. South African girls are taking Nigerian men from their homes.
Romance / Re: South African Girls Seem Cuter Than Nigerian Girls by ApolloFist: 12:59pm On Dec 09, 2014
Any guy who's been to South Africa will tell you. SA girls are hot. But its not their level of beauty. Its how many of them are hot. Generally speaking. SA girls are beautiful. Meaning on average a South African girl is more likely to be beautiful, than not. Other girls don't hold a candle to South African girls. SA girls are not only really pretty but their bodies are gorgeous. Flat stomachs, wide hips, big round asses. And most of them are built this way. other girls can only compete facially.

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Romance / Re: Why Are South African Women Crazy About Naija Guys? by ApolloFist: 12:48pm On Dec 09, 2014
ApolloFist:
People on this post are 10 styles of stupid. South African girls aren't crazy for Nigerian men. A certain type of South African girl likes Nigerian men. I'm in finance and work between Johannesburg (Sandton) and Lagos (Ikeja). In Sandton, Africa's richest square mile. You'll find girls clad in mini skirts and a weave pounding on their iPhones waiting for their rich Nigerian 'boyfriends' to entertain them. (At those times South African men are in the office or board room making deals. Those times are our office hours.) Here's something you should know about women. Women love money. Especially black women. If you're a rich guy and have money to spend. You'll also have women at your beck and call. Women are crazy about men who splurge on them. Since Nigerian guys will even go as far as paying for their rent, weaves & in most cases her child's fees. (because she had a son with a dead beat.)those girls will gravitate towards Nigerians. You'll also notice that you'll hardly ever see a Nigerian with a career girl or a girl who has her act together because those girls already have money and need you to talk a good game to get them. Now let me let you in on a hard fact. Most of the girls Nigerians run into are generally promiscuous. Where she's had a string of lovers screw her over and now she's branching out so to speak. (This is why most Nigerian men think South African women are easy or slutty. That's who they run into.) The other types have bills to pay and are too lazy to get jobs. (You'll notice that these girls can get $20K out of a guy but she'll never use that money to go school or improve herself in an intellectual manner.) And in all honesty, a lot of the girls they attract aren't that bright either. I'm sure you've heard of SA girls coming to Victoria Island, lodging in Eko Hotel for a week or so & back to South Africa.(With a few thousand dollars in tow.) Most of these girls have more than one 'boyfriend'. I mean most of these guys make their money in Lagos. She's in South Africa. They only meet when he flies down or she flies up. on his wallet. Do the math. And when a lot of these girls are in V.I they get themselves into orgies and 3 ways.(hmmmm, now there's a girl after my own heart.) That's insight into the types of girls most Nigerians attract. Bitches and hoes. Not all but most. undecided

Now as far as South African men being lazy. Lets look at that. If the girls you run into are promiscuous and lazy. Have kids with dead beat dads. And have no jobs of their own. What does that tell you? The girls Nigerians attract used to attract losers for boyfriends in SA. Plus Successful SA don't pay for pussy like that and we damn sure aren't there to save a hoe. We're too gangsta. We're like Americans. We treat ladies like ladies and we treat bitches and hoes, like bitches and hoes. cool Case closed. If you compare living standards in Nigeria to South Africa. Nigeria is akin to Pakistan, India, The US or China. Dog eat dog. Highly populated regions usually are. But now appropriate it to Africa, which a new kind of difficult. South Africa is like a European country such as Italy or Spain. Lots of money is being made but its also fairly relaxed. So? Nigeria is a difficult place to live in. Everything costs money. Even asking someone for directions will cost you. Because there are so many people after pretty much the same thing, you have to develop certain traits that come with navigating in such strenuous conditions. Thick skin, cunning, a sense of emergency, hustle savvy etc. Same goes for China, America, Pakistan and India. You HAVE TO be all those things otherwise you're literally bleeped. You won't survive. Its not endowed, its conditioned. That's why you find Pakistanis everywhere, you find Americans everywhere, you find Chinese people everywhere and you find Nigerians everywhere. And they all have the same traits. A heightened sense of emergency, hustle savvy & a go getter attitude. Thats why money is idealized so much in all those countries. You HAVE TO HAVE lots of it. Everything costs. Even asking for directions. South Africa is different. South Africa is akin to a European state with a healthy economy but low population numbers.(South Africa even has similar weather to Europe. That is why whites love it so much.) We have less than 2/3rds your economy so competition isn't as pronounced. In South Africa a guy can take 5 years off to find himself and then get on with his life. The economy is that good. The situation is that relaxed. Our government serves us in most aspects and our impoverished live in relative paradise when compared to most Nigerians. (My gawd I've seen a level of poor even I couldn't comprehend until I got there.) When I got Lagos I had to adjust to all that and it made sense as to why Nigerians are so quick, so to speak. Now, with regards to wealth. Yes Nigeria's wealthy are really wealthy. They have the population to support them. And if things develop like they are Nigeria could very well be like America. Healthy economy, high population. People are the life blood of the economy and as you know. More people, more money.

I will give Nigerians credit for a couple of things. They do take better care of our bitches and hoes than we do. In fact, they take better care of a girl than your average South African guy. They are better looking (I'd imagine if I was a girl, I'd go for a manly looking man and SA guys aren't too manly looking. Where west African genes are male focused. South African genes are female focused. Thats why our women are way hotter than Nigerian women. Compared to SA girls, Nigerian girls are tougher and have a more male like body shape. No hips, no ass, no waste. But when SA men get fat, they too get a big ass tltltlt embarassed)they take being men far more seriously than most South Africans and they are teaching us a few things about ourselves we neglected. Like Entrepreneurial savvy. They come to South Africa and fill in missing gaps that a lot of South Africans fail to see. You guys have entrepreneurial savvy akin to Pakistanis. But when a South African is entrepreneurial, its endowed not conditioned. As a result most South Africans seek out jobs. What South Africans don't realize, that Nigerians, Pakistanis and Indians realized is that there is no magic wand that will fix our problems. We have to roll up our sleeves and get on with life. Nigerians, Chinese and Pakistanis are showing us that. But in South Africa we apply our work ethics differently from Nigerians. South Africans are raised to be the best at what they do. We are taught to chase excellence because money is a bi product of success. Our rich, aren't flying off to exotic countries to lay women. They are there to make deals. In fact South African men who have it together would much rather work on their skills and improving their status than spend thousands of dollars on bitches. We see things like spending 20K on a shoe as reckless spending. We don't find pride in having stuff because A. When we buy stuff, it enriches the people that make it, not the customer. B. We don't take pride in things we didn't make. Yes we like nice things. But we like family and certain success more. We'd rather put our families through school than pay for some chicks rent money. (Well until we get to a certain age. then anything goes.) That's why before Nigerians those same girls were in the arms of some guy who's twice her age.

Gold diggers, bitches and hoes. They've existed since the dawn of economics. They are there to entertain rich guys. Women love rich guys. Nigerians who are with South African girls are usually rich guys. Its not special. its economics. They'll screw any type of guy with lots of money. undecided Sorry but its true.

Also if you ask, How come South African men don't date Nigerian girls then? Its because South African men aren't attracted to Nigerian women. (I think we all know why.)
Romance / Re: Why Are South African Women Crazy About Naija Guys? by ApolloFist: 12:18pm On Dec 09, 2014
People on this post are 10 styles of stupid. South African girls aren't crazy for Nigerian men. A certain type of South African girl likes Nigerian men. I'm in finance and work between Johannesburg (Sandton) and Lagos (Ikeja). In Sandton, Africa's richest square mile. You'll find girls clad in mini skirts and a weave pounding on their iPhones waiting for their rich Nigerian 'boyfriends' to entertain them. (At those times South African men are in the office or board room making deals. Those times are our office hours.) Here's something you should know about women. Women love money. Especially black women. If you're a rich guy and have money to spend. You'll also have women at your beck and call. Women are crazy about men who splurge on them. Since Nigerian guys will even go as far as paying for their rent, weaves & in most cases her child's fees. (because she had a son with a dead beat.)those girls will gravitate towards Nigerians. You'll also notice that you'll hardly ever see a Nigerian with a career girl or a girl who has her act together because those girls already have money and need you to talk a good game to get them. Now let me let you in on a hard fact. Most of the girls Nigerians run into are generally promiscuous. Where she's had a string of lovers screw her over and now she's branching out so to speak. (This is why most Nigerian men think South African women are easy or slutty. That's who they run into.) The other types have bills to pay and are too lazy to get jobs. (You'll notice that these girls can get $20K out of a guy but she'll never use that money to go school or improve herself in an intellectual manner.) And in all honesty, a lot of the girls they attract aren't that bright either. I'm sure you've heard of SA girls coming to Victoria Island, lodging in Eko Hotel for a week or so & back to South Africa.(With a few thousand dollars in tow.) Most of these girls have more than one 'boyfriend'. I mean most of these guys make their money in Lagos. She's in South Africa. They only meet when he flies down or she flies up. on his wallet. Do the math. And when a lot of these girls are in V.I they get themselves into orgies and 3 ways.(hmmmm, now there's a girl after my own heart.) That's insight into the types of girls most Nigerians attract. Bitches and hoes. Not all but most. undecided

Now as far as South African men being lazy. Lets look at that. If the girls you run into are promiscuous and lazy. Have kids with dead beat dads. And have no jobs of their own. What does that tell you? The girls Nigerians attract used to attract losers for boyfriends in SA. Plus Successful SA don't pay for pussy like that and we damn sure aren't there to save a hoe. We're too gangsta. We're like Americans. We treat ladies like ladies and we treat bitches and hoes, like bitches and hoes. cool Case closed. If you compare living standards in Nigeria to South Africa. Nigeria is akin to Pakistan, India, The US or China. Dog eat dog. Highly populated regions usually are. But now appropriate it to Africa, which a new kind of difficult. South Africa is like a European country such as Italy or Spain. Lots of money is being made but its also fairly relaxed. So? Nigeria is a difficult place to live in. Everything costs money. Even asking someone for directions will cost you. Because there are so many people after pretty much the same thing, you have to develop certain traits that come with navigating in such strenuous conditions. Thick skin, cunning, a sense of emergency, hustle savvy etc. Same goes for China, America, Pakistan and India. You HAVE TO be all those things otherwise you're literally bleeped. You won't survive. Its not endowed, its conditioned. That's why you find Pakistanis everywhere, you find Americans everywhere, you find Chinese people everywhere and you find Nigerians everywhere. And they all have the same traits. A heightened sense of emergency, hustle savvy & a go getter attitude. Thats why money is idealized so much in all those countries. You HAVE TO HAVE lots of it. Everything costs. Even asking for directions. South Africa is different. South Africa is akin to a European state with a healthy economy but low population numbers.(South Africa even has similar weather to Europe. That is why whites love it so much.) We have less than 2/3rds your economy so competition isn't as pronounced. In South Africa a guy can take 5 years off to find himself and then get on with his life. The economy is that good. The situation is that relaxed. Our government serves us in most aspects and our impoverished live in relative paradise when compared to most Nigerians. (My gawd I've seen a level of poor even I couldn't comprehend until I got there.) When I got Lagos I had to adjust to all that and it made sense as to why Nigerians are so quick, so to speak. Now, with regards to wealth. Yes Nigeria's wealthy are really wealthy. They have the population to support them. And if things develop like they are Nigeria could very well be like America. Healthy economy, high population. People are the life blood of the economy and as you know. More people, more money.

I will give Nigerians credit for a couple of things. They do take better care of our bitches and hoes than we do. In fact, they take better care of a girl than your average South African guy. They are better looking (I'd imagine if I was a girl, I'd go for a manly looking man and SA guys aren't too manly looking. Where west African genes are male focused. South African genes are female focused. Thats why our women are way hotter than Nigerian women. Compared to SA girls, Nigerian girls are tougher and have a more male like body shape. No hips, no ass, no waste. But when SA men get fat, they too get a big ass tltltlt embarassed)They come to South Africa and fill in missing gaps that a lot of South Africans fail to see. You guys have entrepreneurial savvy akin to Pakistanis. But when a South African is entrepreneurial, its endowed not conditioned. As a result most South Africans seek out jobs. What South Africans don't realize, that Nigerians, Pakistanis and Indians realized is that there is no magic wand that will fix our problems. We have to roll up our sleeves and get on with life. Nigerians, Chinese and Pakistanis are showing us that. But in South Africa we apply our work ethics differently from Nigerians. South Africans are raised to be the best at what they do. We are taught to chase excellence because money is a bi product of success. Our rich, aren't flying off to exotic countries to lay women. They are there to make deals. In fact South African men who have it together would much rather work on their skills and improving their status than spend thousands of dollars on bitches. We see things like spending 20K on a shoe as reckless spending. We don't find pride in having stuff because A. When we buy stuff, it enriches the people that make it, not the customer. B. We don't take pride in things we didn't make. Yes we like nice things. But we like family and certain success more. We'd rather put our families through school than pay for some chicks rent money. (Well until we get to a certain age. then anything goes.) That's why before Nigerians those same girls were in the arms of some guy who's twice her age.

Gold diggers, bitches and hoes. They've existed since the dawn of economics. They are there to entertain rich guys. Women love rich guys. Nigerians who are with South African girls are usually rich guys. Its not special. its economics. They'll screw any type of guy with lots of money. undecided Sorry but its true.

Also if you ask, How come South African men don't date Nigerian girls then? Its because South African men aren't attracted to Nigerian women. (I think we all know why.)

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