EgunMogaji:


There's nothing you have that I need or that can be useful for me. If you noticed, I didn't even quote you but posted in general.

Many on this thread have already said more and I can't help you any further.

It's not of any benefit to me if you understand or not as you can't help a wasted brain.

You're inconsequential.

Argumentum Ad Hominem. Your approach from the beginning which is typical of your kind.

Run along, I meant no offence. I merely pointed out that your slur on my 'social behavior' had no substance Thanks for the chat

EgunMogaji:


It's not my job or duty to educate you.

I'm sure the EU police will eventually orient you.

You cannot give what you do not have

Let me give you something I have. A detention is NOT an arrest.
https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/arrest-detention.htm

Apparently, your deficient reading skills make for incomplete or unsystematized knowledge. Please repent

EgunMogaji:


I am outstandingly worried about your upbringing if you're unable to grasp simple rules of law.

Your behavior is deplorable and an injustice to law abiding travelers.

You're a waste.

And please don't butter me up with your silly salutes, I can see through thing veil.

You were under arrest/detainment until you proved your identity.


It's s shame that hard workings LEO have to waste their time with dolts like you.

Pray, educate me. What law did I break? An EU law? Please cite it, so that I and other travelers who do not abide by said 'law' can learn from you who are well educated in matters of 'law'.

bezimo:


I would disagree to always carry your passport around, your experience must have been an isolated case, off course due to racist Hungary police.Those eastern European countries are typically racist to blacks.

I lived in one of the Schengen states for 2 years during my Masters studies and offcourse travelled to other Schengen states but at no time was I ever asked by the police for my passport when in those Schengen countries. I only presented my passport at the Airport when entering or exiting. This was between 2012-2014. So your experience though unfortunate cannot be generalised.

Hardly unfortunate, more educational. If it can happen once, it can happen again. And I make no efforts at generalisation, only to share and recommend.

EgunMogaji:
It's common sense really.

Here in the US, you're required to

1) have state issued identification

2) residence card or passport if a foreigner

You were under arrest and you were going to not go with them?

Modify your social behavior to comply with local laws. If not for your safety but as an ambassador to the black race.

Sir, this has nothing to do with ambassadorship of any race or country.
And I was NOT under arrest, the police wanted to prove my identity.

Finally, my behaviour is fine, on the other hand, I am a bit worried about your reading skills

joinnow:
They could not speak fluent English but the instruction was clear: ‘Passport’, ‘car’, ‘hotel’.

My version
Always passport carry

I believe you

DICKtator:
Wait!

Lithuania?

Wtf are you studying there?
Do you intend staying back or you gonna come home with the degree?

You have no idea how many times I am asked the bolded.

I do intend to come home at some point No where is better, except Singapore

sesther:
Thanks for this information.
can I chat with you personally pls? Thanks

I PMed

Okwute001:
Bro, firstly, we thank God for you. Because if you hadn't remained calm and obeyed them, who knows? It might have been a different story. Again, this is why I keep saying that I will remain in my country no matter what. What if these people had hurt you. Nobody would have known the full story because there is no way they will tell the truth with you being a foreigner. All the same, my people una don hear. He who has ear, let him hear!!!

Well, such trifles shouldn't stop us from exploring the world God has given us. Please do endeavour to travel and learn something and come back to help home with it.

Just my thinking.

olaboy1:
Do you have your student visa as a stamp on your passport or it's a card?
The police of course can stop anyone at any time for questioning and their is really not much you can do about that.
Within the Shengen zone you must hold an acceptable form of identification even to get into the clubs and most times they are driver license issued by any of the EU countries or national passport, you should be happy the Nigerian passport is still acceptable because some years ago you couldn't use a Somalian passport as a form of identification.

Your attitude with the police was the best as someone on a student visa, you don't want to spend your study time pursuing some fruitless court cases against the police or government except you are a permanent resident.

Final advice, if you plan on staying permanently in Europe then avoid police confrontation as much as possible as everything here is documented, if you are stopped on a routine check make sure you are at your best manner and put up some smile, be respectful to the police as they have a hand held device that they can enter information of all that transpired from that stop against your passport number, car reg or personal identification number if you have one.

I had a friend that was stopped in the UK many years ago when he was driving on a visit there, he returned back to Shengen and applied for student renewal like 2 times/2 years consecutively with no issues, but on a 3rd renewal or so the UK and Shengen started sharing Shengen information and what transpired at that random traffic stop in the UK got him deported from Shengen zone.

Just wow!

Chivasex:
painfully enough, that is the way things are in the fucking EU states.

I was in Holland on a visit so went across to visit some ladies. We went out to have a drink in some corner cafe during the day, say about 3:45 pm. When we were don drinking I decided to walk back to my hotel and had to cross a small road to the other side of the walk way home. This was in Hague.

I got to the traffic light and hot the buzzer and was waiting for green light to walk across. Suddenly I say about 2 white guys walk past me and through the lights while still red although there was no oncoming vehicle, then I decided to go across too, this was about 6pm now. Immediately I crossed the cops pulled up and started asking me all sort of questions that never made sense meanwhile the other guys were still with sight and were walking on the side walk.

I did not response and was still going when one of the pulled his gun on me and I got furious. They asked for my passport, I told them I dont have, they asked me where I was staying at and I told them, they asked for an ID and I gave them my Texas drivers license and at the point I was speaking with some strong texas accent.

They gave me back my drivers license and they left.

The truth is as long as you are black they will always want to Bleep with you.

Wow, really interesting. Sorry it's a bit funny with the Texas accent though

Thanks for sharing

successinlife:
It is legal for police in shenghen states to ask for your identity,resident card or your passport as a student or visitor,note-all shenghen citizens move around with their identification card for so many reasons,one is in case of disaster/danger for fast and easy identification that would help to administer the first aid and onward treatment should it be grave,like cardiac arrest or when blood is needed to easily know your medical history and blood group.It should also be noted that criminals are easily trapped and arrested because of regular crime database,psychiatric cases are not also left out.All these are just to protect the citizenry,nationals and foreigners inclusive.

USA and Nigeria do not follow this system of policing and this is why these two countries may not ask for passports or identificattion.UK is an exception because they do not have identity as well but mere giving your name and date of birth all is known about the person in few minutes though i am not 100% on how UK policing works but i have been asked and giving my data helped to let me off,i was only asked to tell them the day i came into the country,which i gave and parents name was also asked.I think should there be any discrepancy,i would have been held.

My advise,criminals prefer staying in small towns because they think the police control there is not much,hence the police work at random and may stop anybody to ask for identity,this they do to their citizens too,it is not racism and i think it is for our safety.

About asking for assistance in English where English is not their language,it is a loto game,I will not blame a Czechs for not speaking english,
just as i will not blame a Nigerian that doesn't speak french in Ibadan/Enugu or Kano.Every nation is proud of their languages.Learn the basics or have a translation devise handy if you find yourself in a country you don't understand their language.

A most valuable contribution to the conversation. Thank you!

ipobarecriminals:
God bless u for ur gentleman attitude not like we dey do back home,brag%fight with Niagra police(some of them are cursed with bribe/thieves) when stopped. We began to speak in unknown tongue(mixed grammar with pidgin)bring out phone and kal a Ghost superior just to xcape delay.

Home is the best

chatmate:
my own expr

This happened to me in Poland, for about 15min I was with a polish girl and with other naija friend by train station, then, I was with my dutch permit study card.. and they wanted to go home with me, but I refused lol, (HOME KE LOL OMO NA WAHALA B DAT O) they started speaking polish to the girl, the girl was pissed and shouted at them, the police asked her to be polite later they had to leave and I was just laughing. hahaha...


For sure this happen to me every time i fly within the European zones, your permit is not enough. !!!

abeg can I travel without visa to ireland anyone? with just study permit..(make dem no send person back to 9ja o lol)

Haha, funny experience. Sorry I don't know about Ireland

Akanbibabatunde:
^{Just how a friend was detained for 8hours in Paris for not having an I D} ....

eluquenson:
Thanks for sharing

I was happy to. I hope you found it useful.

ip2121918021:


Freedom is being able to travel across 26 European countries without a visa.

This is the best comment on this thread. I hail!!!

DickDastardLION:
trash

The post? Or my experience? Even trash gets recycled so I am fairly certain there is some value here

Evaberry:
lol




Most nairalanders don't know what a passport is neither do they have one.

Ah well, the post is targeted to those who do AND/OR are planning to.

Also, we are making progress. Gradually

Pidgin2:
You don't know what freedom is until you lose it

Hmmm, I've been reflecting on the concept of 'Freedom' for a while, that's certainly a way of looking at this situation Nice!

gentleking90:


Egypt stop issuing visa to students going tru their country to either Estonia or Lithuania because some students were coming with fake admission letter.

Ah well, that is sad

The visa fee of 250 Euros is for the Turkish? Lithuanian visa application is free

Besides, that is certainly outrageous. Is this through an agent, or direct from the embassy? I recall paying 70 dollars or so for mine.

Ticket-wise, it's wiser to go to to Turkey as from Istanbul to Vilnius is 250 - 300 Euros and 2-3 hrs long. Maybe even less. From South Africa, I can't even imagine

Suplexx:


I read online that it is usually one year wait for Bsc students while Master can apply for permit immediately.

It is possible. I am not sure

ghostntommy:



Please which school is this.

Vytautas Magnus University: www.vdu.lt/en

What study program are you looking at?

Secondly, I think many Lithuanian universities also have this process. It would be helpful to contact the international office and explain your position. They are usually reasonable.

Abdullahi said the cost of democracy was not as high as the cost of not having democracy and Nigerians should look on the bright side.

Is it just me, or is this hilarious?

gentleking90:

Actually I was admitted at vytautas magnus university this year but I couldn't resume this September because I was not able to get Egypt visa..I actually deferred my admission till Feb section...
I just want to knw how to go abt the Egypt visa, and how is life relatively in Lithuania

From what I know, Egypt, India, Turkey, and recently, South Africa are the main destinations.

Turkey is the best option I suppose and I am sorry I don't have any advice about Egypt. Why were you unable to get the Egyptian visa?

I could recommend South Africa - I know someone who went that way, but it's freaking expensive. The costs of the flight tickets is incredulous :/

Saintsquare:
I learnt trp takes 2 months and it comes with working permit which allow students to work 20hrs per week but this waiting for a year no be small thing o lol

On the subject of waiting for a year, I can only say 'time flies'

Is there such a thing as a 'bad Christian'?

Yeligray:
Even physics can prove you wrong by this law "like charges oppose each other while unlike charges attract each other'..

This is a tragic case of misappropriation. Very irrelevant argument

goodness11:


In respect of how big the city always take along with you your passport when you on a visit in any country

Also, European police are not like Nigeria police .....please always obey instruction at any time /hour for your own safety

If asked to follow them please do comply

Thanks

You are absolutely accurate and I have learned my lesson, thank you

kelvinUchiha:
Nice info bro...
I'm planning on going to Czech republic in January
Is there racism in schengen zones.
When you buy things and ask people for direction do they become racist?

Hi, there is a bit of racism every where and in everyone, I think, but you are Nigerian, I 'm pretty sure you can handle it.

I recently read this article on Medium. It's from a female's perspective but it gives some insight I think:
https://medium.com/garnet-achieng/being-a-black-african-girl-in-turkey-8fed3a7ca8a8

Czech is a lovely country especially Prague, you won't have any problems I'm sure. Good luck.

Saintsquare:
Do u mean student have to wait for a year before they are allowed to work?

According to the law, yes. You might get your residence permit a month or 2 earlier, but you cannot work without it and you usually have to wait until a year to get it.

gentleking90:

please am more interested in Lithuania, please share some ideas with me.

If you have a specific question, that will be helpful. I'm not sure where to begin here What's your field of study?