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eph12:
How do you measure the best team? Nobody can answer that especially when its not a comparison between Chelsea and Swansea. No team is better, they are all good in their own way. Chelsea just won the league last season and the two players they lost have been replaced by arguably better ones

is morata and bakayoko are the arguably better players than costa and matic?,chai

eph12:
Who has more trophies? Conte or Pep?



My guy your thunder has finished warming up

and how many trophies has pep won in england

eph12:
Until thunder fire you before you realize it's not just about the result but having to play in a certain way winning all big teams and conceding just 3 against 5 top oppositions

may thunder fire before you realize that trophies are the only measure of sucess

snowstormm:
even if hazard win world cup..he will still be considered in the same class as Pedro and Mata and co...world cup cement great players status not bums like hazard status...was Pedro,gotze,ozil considered great after winning world cup?


hazard will be 27 years old in a month,he has entered his prime but still doesn't improve...I won't be surprised if sterling later better his achievement


iniesta isn't overhype,I just prefer xavi

how is iniesta greater thn pedro?,iniesta is overhype how many goals and assist does he have,so if belgium win their first ever world,you thinik hazard their best player will be remember like pedro?,i pity you he will be remembered more than messi internationally,xavi was not considered a great player before 2009 at the age of 28,he won the world cup nevt year at age 29,you just a n illogical hater,if portugal or belgium win world cup i go fustrate all barkabots for this forum

snowstormm:
Lame clapback....I don't really fancy iniesta tho he is my club's legend... will pick xavi over him anyday


Anyway,d way hazard is going,he won't be remember outside Chelsea when he retires...he never reach 150 career goals...when most of his competitors has surpassed that...neymar had 150 goals when he was 21years old...he now has 312 goals despite being a year younger...hazard is even defeated when it comes to assists...if you think after d next 50 years,people will remember him for winning pfa and dribbles?..Na,he doesn't have world cup,euro or UCL to boast about..he needs to start making his legacy


anyway,I write about guardiola but you decided to pick the hazard part...wehdone sir

ikedia is the most overrated player

so you agree iniesta is very overreated since he has no stats?,just look at you a 26 year old is being teased because he has no international trophy and CL has his career ended?remember the age ronaldo won an international player,right now he is greater than messi,

Neymar1095:
Pep will never manage your garbage team..... Pipe dream. I bet all Chelsea fans including abramovich will Sack Conte to take pep without hesitation.

which nonesense pep,has he outwon Conte during their time in england

larride:
Last season, the players were not good enough, the players let him down, this season he made the best of his squad that he wasn't able to do last season after outspending everyone. Awesome.

I swear thunder go fire all this pep asslickers,so winning the league with a super rich club like city mean say make we come dey lick im ass,I just tire sha,if Chelsea weren't brainless this season losing to the pikes of westham,crystal palace and Burnley the gap go for nor reach like this, all this asslicking go for reduce

snowstormm:
I can see man utd supporting guardiola here...what exactly is Chelsea fans problem?


Conte ain't close to guardiola by any stretch.... guardiola can be compared to Fergie,mourinho,ancellotti and co...not Conte, Wenger(am an arsenal fan),ranieri who are still a champions league virgin


The same ranieri can't repeat his magic with Nantes in ligue 1....Na 4 goals PSG give him



Like it or not...Guardiola isn't your average coach...even if he signed messi,ronaldo and neymar...still winning 17 matches and drawing 1 in EPL (the match they drew was agaisnt Everton and one man city player was red carded,if not they would have won d match) is amazing


Call him fraudiola,baldiola or so...he is a great manager...I also doubted him last season but achieving this kind of result despite playing attacking football (not like d complain boy mounrinho) is wow!!!


accepting guardiola greatness won't make head to be bald!!!!!!


Na this same Chelsea fan dey hype hazard cuz he can dribble,why can't you hype a manager that can play sexy football and still get results unlike Eden ikedia who doesn't have any stats to back him up?

does iniesta have the stats to back his career up?

NwaAmaikpe:


The weak link in the Igbo chain.
Well, it's his daughter, She's a product of his sperm... He can teat her however he deems it fit.
Not my business, not yours either.

you be mumu and it is becoming stale

Neymar1095:
And where is Conte's Chelsea today? He builds a
team that cant dominate more than a season
but Pep builds a team that can win league titles
3-4 seasons on a row..Levels

shut don't be faster than your shadow,this league resemble burnthisleaguedown

Eruditor:
Ok tell him to use this present CFC squad to win the league na.

It does not matter who you sold. Nobody is calculating all those things here except Forbes. Nobody forced him to sell the players. He let them go of his own volition.

don't be silly because barca bought dembele for 120m doesn't they didn't lose out on neymar at his prime,I nor understand you oh,you just dey force pep asslicking for our lives doing everything you can to ignore obvious logic,good day

Jackossky:
Nope dont fret, when the second list is officially out, it will reflect automatically.

how far my guy,which course dem give you?

Eruditor:
There is no hype all he gets is constant disrespect including this piffle above.

I don't know why going a season trophyless is a measure of whether a manager is good or not. Mou has gone trophyless twice with RM and CFC. Where is your speech criticizing him?

And when you say Conte won the league with a team that finished 10th we can let you pass, but I have heard it long enough that I need to expose another myth that even I was ignoring; Conte does not win that title without Kante (PFA player of the year) and guess what? Ngolo was not part of that squad that finished 10th. So please, enough with this nonsense about who Pep bought.

Conte bought his own last season that worked for him. Pep has fixed the ills of his team and it is working for him. If Conte did not get hushed, then, nobody should tell us rubbish about who Pep bought. If buying huge was the secret to winning tell Man United to show you their last EPL since they started pumping money right after Fergie left.

Or ask Conte why he added £200M to his previous winners and will not win the same title again? It goes beyond buying players. The type of tantalizing football you are watching I reckon you have not seen in the EPL in the last maybe 10 years (if I am being generous).

All those highest bla bla you are quoting is a superficial way of viewing things. Ukaku should have more goals than CR7 this season since he was priced higher abi? Good, now you see that the market was inflated and City honored the quoted prices just like Mou, Conte and even parsimonious Wenger did.

If Pelle did great in his first season and did worse going forward how e take concern Pep? Jupp Heynckes won fvckall 2011/12 and then won a treble 2012/13. I don't remember people comparing him to LVGs first season who did so well and failed going forward.

If Pep cannot won the league with Leicester is it not because the players don't fit his philosophy or style of play? Or will Mou won the EPL with the same Leicester? Will Conte do it too?

If your answer is yes, then tell them to win this season since their respective squads are better than that Leicester team. Mtcheww.

mehn you are one of pep dark lords oh,conte is capable of wining the league with that leciester squad because he doesnt care about beautiful football,chelsea spent 200m this window but sold close to that amount also,including the likes of costa,matic o dont forget that too

Diademk07:
Well, I didn't watch the game but Gundogan played, right?

yeah,but I guess you are right though,no wonder he rarely performs for Belgium I guess he needs a midfielder controller like xavi/Silva.gundogan to perform

Eruditor:
LOL, Kyle "All brawn and no brain" Walker? Best in the league?

Otamendi was not signed by Pep o and he was error prone under Pelle and Pep last season.

name a Better right back than walker when he was at Tottenham?, my point us otamendi was one of the nest defenders in Spain before he came to city,yes or no?

eph12:
The amount does not matter, why is this difficult to understand? Walker was once considered but lost that title long ago.

I asked if Otamendi is better than Apzi or Chris. It's a straightforward question.

not better than azpi,your question will be more legit if azpi has never won the league title just because he is not better than azpi does not mean he is an average player

laPULGA:
thats right even raniere won the league without ucl and when he started playing in ucl he became nantes coach

a club of chelsea's stature and quality focusing on the league should be better placed in the league than other title contenders with european commitment.innasmuch as i give him credit,i see nothing extraodinary in what he did since raniere did the same with a significantly less talented squad

so i will start my comparism this season that the playing ground is level

did you predict a Chelsea that finish 10th would win the league that season regardless of European football?just two out of 40 pundits tipped Chelsea for the title that season

laPULGA:
thats right even raniere won the league without ucl and when he started playing in ucl he became nantes coach

a club of chelsea's stature and quality focusing on the league should be better placed in the league than other title contenders with european commitment.innasmuch as i give him credit,i see nothing extraodinary in what he did since raniere did the same with a significantly less talented squad

so i will start my comparism this season that the playing ground is level

did you predict a Chelsea that finish 10th would win the league that season regardless of European football?

Diademk07:
One thing you should know is that Silva is the only midfielder I regard in that City midfield.

De bruyne is more direct, attack minded, creative and has improved his possession play under Guardiola but he lacked the control in the midfield unlike Silva. Even Guardiola stated that Silva is his most important midfielder. So who are you to oppose such?

Besides, his dribbling in tight spaces isn't that great. His average euro performances which involve him being often on his back is something I can't just forget like that. Hazard has a better control under pressure than Debryune and was better than him at the Euro.

Abegi.. We know that City always struggle without Silva like they did in the carling cup, so save me this nonsense!

make we talk truth them nor struggle against Tottenham oh

Eruditor:
LOL, what are you on about?

lol,barca get players pass Madrid then na,until 2011/2012

eph12:
I expect them to lose at some point this season. But you just have to appreciate the work done so far.

they are very good but people are overreacting sha

eph12:
Guy no let me vex o. Is it the same Walker that lost his place in the TTH team? Is Otamendi better than Apzi or Chris? Sane who?

I nor understand you, are you saying walker was never considered the best rightback at the league whole at Tottenham?I said otamendi was regarded as one of the best defenders in Spain when at Valencia,do you know how much mancoty bought sane

eph12:
Everyone is guaranteed trophies at one point or the other, even Wenger no matter how bad he is unless you're a Kloop. The difference is how these trophies are won and the legacy left behind.

okay oh,I just hope they lose at life least two games this season, so that make we hear word small

dopeJemi:
I am a Man United fan, so I am the least person that you'd expect to lick pep's ass, "fraudiola" was what I called him but I have come to the realization that he is a genius, He is someone that knows exactly what he is doing.. You can't compare the manner in which Chelsea won the league last season to how Pep is edging closer to it this season, there is a big difference

Pep is succeeding with Delph and Walker as full backs, an unknown player as Goalkeeper, Otamendi who people believed wasn't good enough as a center back, Sterling, an unknown Jesus and a young Sane who before he came to Man City wasn't popular and had only be heard of and not watched

do you know how much all this players cost?, walker was the best in the position in England when he wsd in Tottenham,otamendi was the one the best defenders in Spain before his,sane a well known German talent and cost w fotune, you are putting me in a position where I have to downplay his sucess but saying this players are very talented or bought with big money is overreaching in your path

eph12:
Yes Conte will win but top spot is not guaranteed, neither is battering his title contenders along the way nor establishing this gap. This is mid December and the title is almost won.

the greatest manager in Chelsea history is mourihno,the most pragmatic and non beautiful football achieving coach in history,so you see maybe am just pragmatic and want sucess without giving a hoot about what pattern they play,all I know conte will win titles with this same city and that is all that really impresses me

Eruditor:
Apart from Bayern, Pep never had the best squad anywhere else. This narrative needs to be buried once and for all.

Barca of 07/08 had just lost to United (a team Fergie said was better than his treble winning squad). That would be the last time United will beat Barca in a competitive game.

It is virtually that same squad (subtract Dinho and Deco) that Pep used to humble the same United in 2 finals. Best squad my foot.

Maybe you should check the roster Madrid had. Madrid that had previously won the league 18 points ahead of Barca who were actually 3rd before Pep.

baba to type long note just week me,combine barca&Madrid 11 from 2009-2011

Eruditor:
If winning was all Roman cared for he probably won't have fired Mou or Carlo.

It is the way to win that lasts. The elegance, dominance, beauty. That is what Pep brings.

did you watch arsenal from 2005-2010

dopeJemi:
Pep will stroll to the league title if he had just the EPL to contest for

pep won't do jack oga,he was already talking about signing 10 new players,would have imagine Chelsea succeeding with moses and Alonso as wingbacks?, did you predict Chelsea will win the league despite not players in Europe,especially when arsenal dicked us?,chairman forget that thing this pep asslicking don too much

Eruditor:
You are actually right and I give Conte credit for it. Another manager had lied that those players could not do diddly squat and that he raised them to a level above what they could achieve.

But then, Pep has a style he likes to play. In fact, that is why he is sought after - his style and success. So he may not have won anything with that squad, true, but he would have signed players that fit his philosophy and Chelsea would have been Man City of this season.

Tim Sherwood said something after the Tottenham game and I agreed with him. He said "if Pep was managing this Tottenham squad, he would have won the league with them". I could not agree more.

football is unpredictable,city has already won this title but all chanting pep domination,i just tire for them oh,somehow chelsea always find a way to win titles in abramovich era,any way make we dey look

eph12:
That's because Pep has a style and it takes time and energy to master that style. It's not about changing of formation or grinding out results, but playing a particular dominating, ball possession way always.

I'm just surprised the team has been able to play that way in such a short time especially in the EPL. the guy is good abeg. It has shown on the field and position on the table.

dude am not saying the guy is not good my stance is,the guy always have the best squad in the league before he starts winning titles and sometimes do not deliver[bayern in 2016 UCL],the way he is being overpraised by his fanboys just tire me,are you telling me that conte wont will the with this city squad even if it isnt half as flashy?

chaarly:
I need an answer to this question as well. .
the suspense is killing!

or if anyone knows who has, please signify

i know a friend has been admitted through DE law

dopeJemi:
I am done giving excuses, Pep is above everyone else in the league, he beat the top 5 teams in the league, and convincingly too, it's unheard of, that is ingenuity.. give mourihno or conte this same team and watch them fumble with time

give pep chelsea team of last season and he nor go win league