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Bish42:
Without grace or strong Christian values, Russia would be defeated.
She is one of the few Nations on Earth that is proud to display many crosses on her city buildings. It's a proof that JESUS is her salvation.
Always happy to see the crosses

I'd love to hear more on what I have put in bold-face.

How do you know? Have you traveled to Russian cities?

@Samueltemi337, my guy, how far?

Would you mind if I get you a brand new British Airways?

DeltaBachelor:
It’s good and encouraging sha, but the truth is that their commentary doesn’t really make sense. There’s no wordplay, no excitement, no motivation……Theirs is just like they are reading a script….very monotonous and boring.


But they will get there sha…….I need to hear women say things like “ It’s Partey, welcoming you all to the Party “ or something like “ Wow , it’s still ‘sizzling’ Ice Cold for Palmer….. lol. That guy Peter Drury is very good with wordplay jare. He’s a good example of what a talented commentator should be . Martin Tyler is also very good as well , but men give Peter his flowers. As a Chelsea fan when Arsenal pummelled us with 5 goals, he said something in the match that made shed tears. lol

HE SAID “ Arsenal are so good, they are even scoring by mistake “ hahahaha .

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Samantha125:
I don't pray for strangers.

Let's just drop the topic since you're not ready to answer my question... Good night.

Bye. Good night.

Samantha125:
Nope, that's not how I operate... I have to know you first.

And you still haven't answered my question, what do you expect the lady to have done?

When you had to sacrifice or part away with something of value, then, O then, you remember having a mode of operation. Isn't that funny?

If I had told you that my dog is critically ill and needs your prayers, would you parrot this opinion even though you don't know me from Adam and we've never met? No, you wouldn't. Wouldn't you pray for a total stranger? Isn't that a request too? You would probably be like "No P bro! I would pray for your dog."

But because I am asking for a measure of value, something that would cost you much, plenty, then you have a manner you do your stuff.

If you want to know what the lady should have done, send me 10k. I am broke. I would use myself as a prime example to teach you what the lady should have done.

Unfortunately, I would soon go offline. Reply quick.

Samantha125:
Why should I be sending money to a stranger I've never met before on a faceless forum?🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

People kill others for no reason. Why would you need a reason to help someone?

Help me.

Samantha125:
Why should I be sending money to a stranger I've never met before on a faceless forum?🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

Charity does not need a "why."

Help me, please. I am serious.

Samantha125:
Okay...🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

Let me send my aza?

Samantha125:
So what do you expect her to have done? Prayed for him?

I am damn broke.

Please can you assist me with 10k? No jokes.

Samantha125:
I don't get it, what does he deserve then?🤔🤔🤔

Oh, okay I see! I see!

You're probably among those who say: "Okay. Mtcheeww, did I ask him to help me? That's his business. What does he deserve? What does he deserve besides a "thank you"?

But let me ask you: Is "thank you" a reward for labour? If I work in your farm from dawn to dusk, would I accept "thank you" as a payment for my efforts? Like, do people get paid with a "thank you"? You can withdraw the money he gives, but can you withdraw "thank you" in the bank and use it to get by? But what has been handed to you with little or no efforts is commensurate with wages earned for actual efforts. Just saying thank you and shoving everything under the carpet is a very, very cold, detached, compliment that is very unappreciative of genuine human sacrifices. We have absolutely lost it in this day and age.

Talk, as they say, is cheap.

People need to understand that you genuinely appreciate their efforts beyond the two words (thank you) that come from your lips. That is what they deserve.

Samantha125:
I don't get it, what does he wants?🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

Funny.

Humans struggle from dawn to dusk to get money. All our lives, from cradle to adulthood, we have to struggle and wrestle with vigour to earn enough to get by, to be independent, to afford the basic things of life and here you are talking as if anyone owes anyone anything let alone the ultimate measure of value - which is money.

If you don't respect their persona, at least respect their sacrifices. It cost and takes a lot from them and from anyone else to get money legitimately. Anyone who gives you money without your sweating it out or you breaking your brows deserves more than a thanks or a T or a common compliment.

That is characteristics of...

Samantha125:
What else do they want to get aside from a thanks?

O common! What you said isn't even necessary - just walk out on him or spit in his pitiful face.

helinues:
Mr Layi the law. My man

I sent a guy money around middle of last year he was complaining of his generator not working, and I sent him money to repair his gen, buy fuel, subscribe internet and have something extra. Annoyingly,this guy didn't even ask me directly, he said he wanted to go and carry generator somewhere which I asked him what would the person be using again. I was like instead of inconveniency others, make I assist voluntarily .

Less than 24 hours, my guy was telling me he has exhausted the money that I should assist with more. I just simply told him I sent the last money in my account to him

100k in less than 24 hours when no be say na so I dey see money

Modified: All the people who are calling me a liar on this thread, is that how N100k is just so big to them. I swear to almighty God, I have made more than N100k today, Aje.

Dashing someone N100k na even manageable considering the Nigeria economy.

We be Omo ologo latipe, we no be Omo ologogoro like Portable who have landed himself in another trouble. He was in court today, probably reminded.

Alhamdullilahi for the grace because no be about being sabi, na just abundance grace

Based on what I have bolded, I would presume - you are a professional freelancer.

If I may ask, not doubting your earnings, what do you do as a freelancer?

Walai:
He prefers foreign clients that pay more higher amount and he's already got many contracts he is executing .
What I'm trying to say in all of these is that dude have touched big money running in tens of millions therefore M3.5 looks too small to him but to me it's big money because of my financial level.
On the other hand, this is one mentality I hate among Africans. They acquire their talents and training here and instead of using that talent to work and contribute to the society development, they will prefer to use it in foreign countries just because of money.

The fellow is probably freelancing on Upwork.com or one of these freelance websites.

He is earning the dollar equivalent for his labour in Naira while he lives in Nigeria. I still insist that he made a very poor financial decision. He could have put this client on hold, or outsource the job to someone else, or do anything within his ability to see to it that the said client never leaves.

Three-and-a-half million earned within three months in this country is quite huge regardless of how much "pepper" you hands might have touched and regardless of where you live.

How many people earn a million naira monthly in Obodo-Nigeria as we speak? I'd say less than one percent of the general population, or you don't agree?

Walai:
Guy you're broke that's why that money is too big for you. I know a senior developer that bounced a 3 months contract of 3.5M. As he was telling me about it, I felt like strangling him but this nigga is paid in dolls infact he mostly reject naija jobs.
FYI, just like 5yrs ago this same person will be jumping on 200k per month contract

We are praying to God to make a way for us.

But rejecting a three months contract as a senior developer that should pay you 3.5 million naira is very, very unwise. I don't know, should we call this foolishness, stupidity, both, or what? Isn't this just about coding? On a device? What are you even purchasing to do this task besides the use of your God-given brain?

And this guy would probably be required to do all he would be doing virtually - through the online space. I say this because you hinted of him getting paid in dollars. NO, this is very unacceptable. Some extremely poor decisions (financial) wear the dirty garment of stupid confidence (of getting hired elsewhere) and extremely (un)wise business negotiation skills.

Tell him to pull off that garment, or has he gotten what he does for a living?

This bro's wants to pay 200 naira for your wares and you're insisting he pays 250 naira. If he pays 200 naira, you only make a profit of 70 naira. Well, seventy naira is not good profit so you insist he pays 250. After haggling back and forth and no headway, he goes away.

Omo naso the banana take spoil, nobody buy am!

dhope:
Lol. I rejected offer of 670k net last month just because they're not ready to meet my demand and this coy is just a real estate firm on the Island.
That figure just look big but purchasing power is very low, thanks to hyperinflation created by economic policy of renowned APC economic wizard in power. Few years ago, I didn't believe people earn in millions until I changed my environment and that discouraged me to take lecturing job due to poor renumeration of lecturers.

670k? Are you really serious? Sir, what are your demands?

I would not reject even 500k paid straight to my account monthly (for anything) unless the employer's demand is quite weighty; maybe like he wants me to travel to heaven on a rope of sand.

GanagiBitrus:
No missing Chicken is worth £50 plus all the time &stress involved in printing posters & trying to find it.

Exactly.

They are just playing on our intelligence. Fifty pounds should get you at-least three local birds that are heavier than Shiney, even in Sunderland. It's all cruise.

Grade3C:
.

Do you have their permission before sharing their nudes? Would this be an offense to Baltasar and his mistresses? Would Baltasar (and his mistresses) give you a pat in the back for exposing their unclothedness for whatever reasons? Would you be able and willing to approach and ask their forgiveness in person, not by proxy, should God require you to do this before he even forgives you? Do you have the right to wrong him in this way? Is he a pornographic actor that you're doing this to him?

What are you doing?

CoronaVirusPro:
That’s a good one!

Alcohol has no place in Yobe!

Lagos, Ogun and Osun should follow!

I will implore His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR) to put in place strict measures on Alcohol sales, consumption and publicity.

I didn't hop into this thread just because I need to get a good laugh. Don't make me laugh, please.



Alcohol has no place in Yobe state (because the Quran says so) but the sea-snake, the camel, the prawn, the oysters, the lobsters, the crabs, the periwinkles, the rabbit or even the snake has a place?

ajailer:
If you said it's propaganda, then let's look at Nigeria's case. Tariff on imported cars(99% of cars in Nigeria is imported btw, as we don't have a local car manufacturing industry ) has been increased by the government. This has lead to the citizen now paying more to own cars, but economically, lesser people can afford this new prices, so people buying cars are not as many as before, and this has lead to a drop in revenue for the government. On the long run, the government is killing itself cos they are not innovative enough to figure out a winning solution for everyone. Now Trump is doing something like this to America.

The ultimate goal of imposing tariffs is not to make more money for the government - at-least not in the long run.

In a self-reliant or almost self-reliant country like the US, tariffs would serve its purposes - it would discourage purchase of certain imported items and boost local production of these products because the ones being imported would be more expensive compared to locally sourced ones.

That is going to be the case because the US dollar is the medium of exchange and is not susceptible to fluctuation like other currencies. Besides, most citizens can afford the US dollar because it is the... LEGAL TENDER!

When a country relies lesser on imported products and more on what its citizens produce, everyone fares well and everyone is happy. What you said of Trump doing same for the US is false equivalence. Just because we have been unable to stoke local production of vehicles in a way that discourages importation does not mean that America would experience similar fate. We have been unable to stoke local production of almost everything we used to import in the past, not just vehicles.

A lot of countries, and I mean a lot, are less reliant of importation and these countries aren't even at the standards of the US, economically speaking. Nigeria's problem is more than a peculiar problem. So many nuances and variables at play. Don't compare them.

ajailer:
It's cheaper to produce goods in China, which I believe is the reason behind Chinese tariffs being higher on imported goods from America as compared to the otherwise. America might lose this tariff war except they can bring down the cost to produce goods too, and by the way, why is Trump forcing importers to bring manufacturing of their products back to America when the system is a capitalist system and it makes no business sense to operate in an environment where you expend more resources when you have a cheaper alternative.

Trump has bitten more than he can chew right now. He is a realtor abi, when he is constructing his buildings, will he use cheaper building materials from abroad or more expensive ones from his country when he is in the business to take profits?

No, they wouldn't. It's all propaganda.

A man who's down cannot fall. He's down already. If you take a look at that board on President Trump's hands, it reads: Reciprocal tariffs.

America has been absorbing these tariffs from the countries on that board for months and even for years. Increasing it in retaliation by a notch would not make any difference. A country absorbing as high as 40% on tariffs (on all products it imports) would not suddenly pass out if you decide to make it 60%, 70% or even more. They have been at it for years so it is not going to move jack. Trump's got to be the wisest man alive. I doff my hat for him. It's all noise. Nothing is going to happen. The US would not feel a prickle of heat from this brouhaha unless these countries conspire to stop sending products into the country altogether.

Na propaganda bros.

neolboy:
This is my life story
I am sharing my experience here about marriage life, some of you might call me a Simp or weakling but need to share it for those who asked me to share it when I write on a topic about what i regretted so far in 2025, was getting married last year December and ending it this Year January will pick one or two things from my story.

I met this girl 2023 through a mutual friend, we became an acquaintance and later start dating. She is from Delta state likewise myself, she comes from Ndokwa west specifically Kwale by tribe. In 2024 i proposed to her, by May I went to see her family while she came to meet mine also.

Early September i asked her family for the traditional list. We both agreed for traditional marriage and court wedding, After collecting the list we start planning towards the traditional marriage which was fixed on December 29 on a Sunday afternoon. That faithful day, i went with my people to pay the bride price and other things, and the court wedding was fixed on January 17.

January 7th, we were together discussing but something strange happened, her phone rang and i saw her going outside to answer some calls, after sometimes she came back inside not composed. I asked her what the problem was but she downplayed it and told me it was nothing, but i was not comfortable, after a while her phone rang again, it was her brother's wife calling her and asking her if she has told me about the pregnancy. I was shocked and asked her what pregnancy is she talking about.

Here comes the shock of my life, i discovered that she was some weeks pregnant, I asked her who got her pregnant, to my surprise, it was her ex boyfriend. I was enraged, mad and furious, something was whispering into my ear to go into the kitchen take a knife and stab her. Luckily for me, my younger sister called me at that moment, if not i don't know what i would have done to her. Because it was late i left the house for her.

In the morning, i came back, she was already in tears crying and asking me for forgiveness. I told her to leave my house, I picked up my phone call all her family members, called mine also.
Her family were trying to persuade me to forgive her but i told them it was unforgivable. My family asked for the refund of the bride price which was later refunded after they discovered that i did not bulge to their request of accepting her back.

It was a painful moment and a painful experience too, but i was able to pull through by the help of my family members some friends.

It was a long story i had to cut it short. It is my life story

Moral lesson: Do pregnancy test even on the day you are to tie the knot, do not trust to the extent of ignoring little things.

Extra: The guy who got her pregnant was aware and even told the girl's sister that his property with them he is coming in future to collect it. Na so I for dey look after another man's property

If she didn't tell you, would you have known? NO! I guess you wouldn't.

I am beginning to agree with my friend Dolu who said that no good deed goes unpunished.

Man would often get punished for the good (and kindness) which he does to his fellow man.

The Holy Spirit is not a good Jinn!

Yeah, the Holy Spirit is not a good evil spirit.

akwesenana:
Why was Brighton vs Aston Villa over 2.5 odd that big? @loverofevil?

Brighton vs Aston Villa over 2.5 odd is that big because it is quite big.

Have I answered your inquiry?

Samueltemi337:
Nah
VAR made football more interesting
More tense moments and pressure

More interesting or less interesting?

The Don't-Rejoice-Yet fellows, the Dem-Go-Still-Cancel-The-Goal crews are coming for your neck!

Kaido:
Betking..Oops!

Betking's gonna palpitate paying your winnings and mine, too.

I think with diligence and proper stakes management, it should pay off. One cannot be unlucky every-time na.

In an unrelated post that hit front page today, you challenged a Christian to comparative religion debate. I am stupefied. Wow!

I didn't know we have gurus on this platform. Where have you been, I have been on the lookout for people like you.

In your challenge, you said

[quote author= abuhlawal post=134770540]You swore that you were a Muslim before getting access here, have you realize that you started decieve yourself before everyone.
Do you think there is any deception greater than you decieving yourself like you have just done.
For comparative religious debate, if you get mind and know you are on the right path, DM me and get clarity over your religion from your own religious Book
Follow the rules and be safe
God bless you[/quote]You seem like a really good fellow.

And then you repeated yourself again:

[quote author= abuhlawal post=134770540]Ok ooo
For comparative religious debate, if you get mind and know you are on the right path, DM me and get clarity over your religion from your own religious Book.
I will not quote a single verse from the Qur'an.
If you get mind check my signature and DM me.
Follow the rules and be safe
God bless you[/quote]Someone is shitting on your religion and all you're saying is "God bless you." You seem like a great chap. A different breed.

That being said, that guy no get mind but me I get mind die.

So I challenged Muslims today and this is what I said:

[quote author= Baldwretch post=134770540]Barka da Eid-Fitr dear Muslim readers.

My eran odun is still in limbo. You'd have given me enough meat and even more to spare without having to see me in person if you answer these questions through this online platform:

1. God gave Moses certain laws for all of mankind. These laws can be likened to an order. In fact, some of these orders were given long before Moses was born. During the time when Noah and the patriarchs walked the earth.
As to the bold-faced, please see this post: https://www.nairaland.com/8306103/torah-supposed-benefit-all-mankind

2. Some parts of the Torah have been corrupted, but not all parts of it. The Quran confirms some parts of the Torah and since it confirms some parts of the Torah, not all parts have been corrupted as even the Quran agrees. For if all parts of the Torah have been corrupted, then the parts the Quran confirms as authentic are also corrupted which means the Quran itself is corrupted.

The order in question (as given to Moses) have not been corrupted. It is not the case of a textual corruption which puts the blame squarely on man's sinful tendencies and absolves God of all blame.

3. Muhammad contradicts these laws. I used an illustration to show that even the devil doesn't give or permit his subordinates to give orders and counter orders in his realm.

4. Regardless of human locale, environment, or settings, God does not contradict or modify his laws which are the foundation of his government.

5. The conclusion is therefore necessary: Muhammad could not have been from God.

If you object to my argument, please let me hear yours. Your beautiful arguments is my eran odun![/quote]@abuhlawal, shey you get mind like this?

Barka da Eid-Fitr dear Muslim readers.

My eran odun is still in limbo. You'd have given me enough meat and even more to spare without having to see me in person if you answer these questions through this online platform:

1. God gave Moses certain laws for all of mankind. These laws can be likened to an order. In fact, some of these orders were given long before Moses was born. During the time when Noah and the patriarchs walked the earth.
As to the bold-faced, please see this post: https://www.nairaland.com/8306103/torah-supposed-benefit-all-mankind

2. Some parts of the Torah have been corrupted, but not all parts of it. The Quran confirms some parts of the Torah and since it confirms some parts of the Torah, not all parts have been corrupted as even the Quran agrees. For if all parts of the Torah have been corrupted, then the parts the Quran confirms as authentic are also corrupted which means the Quran itself is corrupted.

The order in question (as given to Moses) have not been corrupted. It is not the case of a textual corruption which puts the blame squarely on man's sinful tendencies and absolves God of all blame.

3. Muhammad contradicts these laws. I used an illustration to show that even the devil doesn't give or permit his subordinates to give orders and counter orders in his realm.

4. Regardless of human locale, environment, or settings, God does not contradict or modify his laws which are the foundation of his government.

5. The conclusion is therefore necessary: Muhammad could not have been from God.

If you object to my argument, please let me hear yours. Your beautiful arguments is my eran odun!

Barka da Eid-Fitr dear Muslim readers.

My eran odun is still in limbo. You'd have given me enough meat and even more to spare without having to see me in person if you answer these questions through this online platform:

1. Who you think the Holy Spirit is and how does he act. It's a personal question directed at you.

2. I am asking why Muslims do not have the Holy Spirit and do not even claim that they do.

3. I need your opinion on what you think of the varied claims made by some Christians that they have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Do you think this claim by so-called Christians is false? If you think these claims are true, I mean that they indeed have the Holy Spirit, do you think the Holy Spirit, if it is Gabriel as you might reply, dwells in their bodies as a spirit, or as what?

If you think Christians who say they have the Holy Spirit are lying and that these do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them, what do you think dwells in them? If it is not a Jinn, then what is it?

if it is a Jinn, what exactly is a "good Jinn" supposed to do in a Christian's life if he is not there to torment him? If this Jinn is not tormenting him, dwindling the quality of his life, or making life a living hell for him, wouldn't God's character be called into question for encouraging and cheering heads-on, by a good Jinn, those whom he is angry with? And wouldn't the Christian misjudge and misidentify this Jinn as an encouragement from his God when they are, in fact, signs of chastisement and future warnings? Would God be fair to punish them then?

4. Do you think Christians can receive God's spirit and not be at peace with God? Do you think a religion that receive Gabriel or Gabriel's Spirit do not and have not received divine authority, thinking logically? How can God send Gabriel to dwell in a Christian and that doesn't scream divine authority on the religion itself?

Happy Eid Fitr my brothers, but I would felicitate more with you if you give me answers.

Antichristian2:
Jinns are like humans in nature. They have freewill, can do good or evil. They are unseen and can influence and harm humans. Yeah, many people live normal lives and will still end up in hell. Jinns too will enter hell like humans. Some humans seek protection, wealth, etc from them.

It looks like you are still indecisive on this subject. I asked Abdul a question. Abdul made his position known. I threw the question open here. You and RealLordZeus made it look like I am overgeneralizing - using one Muslim's opinion to form a consensus on what Muslims believe.

Then, you suddenly make a U-turn affirming what Abdul believes. Are you with Abdul on the subject?

His position is this: the Holy Spirit left the earth with the ascension of Jesus Christ. Any spirit, and all the spirits that inhabit Christians today are Jinns. Not all Jinns are bad, so they might not exhibit "bad" symptoms. The evil spirits that possess them, might, after all, be "good" evil spirit. Is that your position too?

Antichristian2:
Where did the preposition "in him" came from? See the attached. The Hebrew for Spirit is rū·aḥ (Ruh in Arabic). So there was no "in him" there. That's obviously a trinitarian extrapolation!

It all follows the same pattern. It's always about translating the Bible according to the whims of a trinitarian. See the second attachment below. The Spirit can be a "who" and it can also be "above, over, upon, against" just like an Angel!

You are asking a bad faith question that pretends to be unaware of what goes on in everyday interactions as humans. You're asking - when spirits possess humans, do they possess them from "under" "on top" "below" "from outside" or do they come and go? This is not a theoretical exercise. We see this almost every time. What I see you doing here is trying frantically to defend Islam by lighting candles to see the sun in the afternoon because you don't believe the sun is a superior source of light.

And I say this based on your first question on this thread: you asked if I believed TB Joshua is a man of God. It appears that you have seen footage of him performing exorcism then. You have presumably seen demons talking, shouting, screaming, and doing all sorts through their victims. You have seen some women who have "Jinn" display some awkward behavior, so why are you pretending you don't have an answer to this rhetorical question? It is the fact that these Jinns are in their victim, that is what gives them authority over their victim. That is common knowledge. What I am getting at is obvious: these demons, as we can observe, inhabit their victims in the same way other spirits, the Holy Spirit, inhabit people, too.

When the records (and even human experience) as we have it say that God pours out spirit (whether the spirit is a Jinn or it is not) on people which inhabit them, and then someone is coming along to say - in the second scenario - that God no longer pours out his spirit or that God pours his spirit in a different away other than what we know and have observed, then you know for sure that he is a liar. If God poured out his spirit on Moses and on Joshua and on many devote men years ago, why would he just stop today? Regardless of where you think the spirit is poured out in - whether it is under, over, on top, in the fact, outside, in the night or whatever - I honestly do not understand why you think it is perfectly reasonable to hold the belief that God used to pour out his spirit in the past but has stopped totally today? You cannot get more illogical than this. If you don't agree, could you kindly explain why Muslims do not have God's spirit and do not even claim to.

On your screenshot: the scriptures doesn't even have to make that clear at all - that the spirit is in him. Spirits inhabit people internally by definition and by experience as I have explained. You are trying to play hide and seek with words, meanings, with atheistic apprehension of everyday experience in spiritual matters.

The screenshot you shared neither translates the entire Hebrew passage of that verse from the Hebrew nor does it even attempt to. All you did is type specific words for their meaning on your concordance from a different English translation. This is bad faith argument. You shouldn't have done that. When I read your words, "trinitarian extrapolation," I knew that a concordance of different bible translations would not help here. I, however, have the Jewish Tanakh (translated into English) sitting in my device. It is the Hebrew bible, divided into Law, Prophets, and Writings, with no new testament therein. It is what English-speaking Jews use. The Jewish translators neither have "trinitarian" ideology as the Christians might have, nor do they even believe in Jesus Christ.

This is how it reads:

Baldwretch:
Numbers 27:18. And the LORD said unto Moses: 'take thee Joshua the son of Nun, a man in whom is spirit, and lay thy hands on him.'

This is as clear as light. In whom is spirit. Whom is the objective case of "who." You are quite literate.

Antichristian2:
1. Judges 14:6 (NIV): The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him (i.e. Samson) so that he tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told neither his father nor his mother what he had done."

2. Judges 14:19 (NIV): [b]Then the Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him. He went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men, stripped them of everything and gave their clothes to those who had explained the riddle. Burning with anger, he returned to his father’s home.

3. Judges 15:14-16: As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men.[/b]

Ask your question directly instead of all these merry go round typing thrash!

My Special question is why didn't the Spirit help Samson not be deceived by Delilah but helped him kill many times?[/size]

You are asking silly questions. Does God have to help, save, or deliver anyone whether they have his spirit or they do not have it? No, of course, not.

The act of pouring out his spirit on his creature is an act of mercy, but God doesn't even have to do that and much less deliver anyone or inform those he has poured out his spirit of certain disaster befalling them simply because he has poured out his spirit on them. He would inform them if he so pleases. Did God create Samson to live eternally? Is God under obligations to inform Samson of certain danger because Samson is filled with his spirit? You are asking trash question. Doesn't God reserve the rights to hide information from whomsoever he chooses even if they have his spirit? Don't we see this in the life of the prophets?

The prophet Elisha, who, in my opinion, performed more miracles than other Jewish prophet - He would tell the king of Israel what other kings were conspiring in their bedroom chamber; he knew when a murderer was sent to kill him; Elisha has this to say to his servant Gehazi

Baldwretch:
2 Kings 4: 27. Gehazi began to push her away, but the man of God said, “Leave her alone. She is deeply troubled, but the LORD has not told me what it is

If we would be asking silly questions of this sorts, we should be asking why God didn't tell Elisha what the problem is since Elisha has the spirit. When people start asking Why God didn't do certain things then we know that they just want to argue.

Apologies, I am carrying over your comments in the other thread here.

So you said:

Antichristian2:
Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel that brings Allah's message, etc to any of His messengers as He so wishes!

No, there's nothing called Holy spirit in Christianity! That's all packaged falsehood! Only Jinns could possess a human in such way typical of your own version of Holy Spirit!

Now, this is some next-level, eloquent, grandiose, logically-incoherent nonsense.

In its practical ramification: Are you with Abdul on the subject or are you saying something different?

I mean, If only Jinns can possess humans as the you said in your third sentence which I have put in bold-face, are you saying that the Jinns that possess Christians are good Jinns? I am asking again because these "Jinns" apparently do not dwindle the quality of their life in anyway. They live perfectly normal lives like any other person does.

Again, I am not going to use Christianity to prove that Christianity is true. That is bad-faith argument and would not make much sense. I would prefer to use Ol' fashion Judaism.

See what God said of Joshua:

Baldwretch:
In Numbers 27:18-21: God said to Moses: "take Joshua son of Nun, who has the Spirit in him, and lay your hands on him"

Question: Is this a Jinn?

Answer: Clearly, NO!

Another question: Where is this so-called spirit?

Answer: It is in him. Dwelling in him.

This essentially rebuffs your claims that only Jinns could inhabit humans since Joshua has a spirit and the spirit is not a Jinn. I don't have to use other passages of scripture to prove this. However, here's another one:

When the complaints against Moses became too much, God told Moses to forward the names of seventy elders who would be sharing leadership responsibilities with him. Hear what God said to Moses in Numbers 11:17

Baldwretch:
I will take some of the Spirit that is upon you, and I will put the Spirit upon them also. They will bear the burden of the people along with you

The spirit is in Moses. It is in him! In fact, it so happened that seventy men were filled up with a measure of the Holy Spirit that was upon Moses that they prophesied.

I would not bother to quote the Book of Judges that chronicles the life of the Judges before Kings ruled in Israel with copious amounts of "the Holy Spirit came upon so-and-so and he did so-and-so."

It is enough to just say that all of them had what the bible calls the Holy Spirit since the passages in question says so.

All the prophets had God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit. All of them. That should be given. They are prophets, after all.

All devote men before Jesus Christ with whom God is particularly pleased with had his spirit, the Holy Spirit. All of them.

During the reign of the Kings, when they reigned in Israel, the anointed kings had God's spirit, the Holy Spirit, in them, all of them.

In fact, at one time when David slept with another man's wife and killed the man to cover up his sins, he begged God not to take the Holy Spirit away from him. If he didn't have it, he wouldn't be begging God not to take it away when he sinned. I am talking of what is now known as the most penitent Psalm in the entire bible. Psalm 51.

He says:

Baldwretch:
Psalm 51:11 Do not banish me from your presence, and don't take your Holy Spirit from me.

Read this particular Psalm like 1, 000 times. If it pleases God to make you a Christian, he would send the Holy Spirit into you. I am not kidding you.

That said, the difference between the Holy Spirit and a Jinn has never been more apparent and clear when we consider the life of Saul who was anointed.

Baldwretch:
But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.

Unfortunately, the adherent of the Islamic religion do not have the first spirit that was upon Saul because the religion itself doesn't have God's authority, only the second. God sends his spirit with whom he has a pact with, or with whom he is particularly interested in. He withdraws his spirit on whom he is particularly displeased with. That is common sense. You can see that if the first spirit does what the second one does, the first spirit wouldn't have departed from him.

Their roles are as farther apart as the east is from the west.

The promise of God pouring out his spirit upon more humans by Jewish prophets of old is a recurring theme in their mouth. Jesus Christ simply reiterated and actualized that promise when he died. Please see Joel 2:28-32; Ezekiel 36:26-27; Isaiah 32:15; Isaiah 44:2-3 and isolated passages of Jeremiah. I haven't even used any New Testament passages to buttress my claims.

That said, you have to realize that God's will must never suffer at the expense of his choice or his choice at he expense of his will. Like you and I, God has a choice. Who he wants to approach him. He also has a will. What he wants to get done. God must first choose who would worship or approach him and the chosen must worship him as he has prescribed. It's just like a man who is unmarried and when asked why, says, the women who have good character are not his specs and his specs have bad character. God would not suffer for man's unbelief, sins, and rebellion so that he has to settle for anything less.

Please answer the question I asked you earlier.

Antichristian2:
I have answered you!

No, you have not answered me.

Granted, Muhammad thinks the Holy Spirit is angel Gabriel - the angel with six hundred wings - but what that even means or how Gabriel's mode of operation plays out is not clear. Is it that Gabriel dwells in the believer from within, comes and goes, or strengthens the believers from outside, or what? Please explain.

I am asking who you think the Holy Spirit is and how he acts. It's a personal question directed at you.

I am also asking why Muslims do not have this Holy Spirit and do not even claim they do.

Also, I asked your opinion, what you think of the varied claims made by some Christians that they have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Do you think this claim by so-called Christians is false? If you think these claims are true, I mean that they have the Holy Spirit, do you think the Holy Spirit, Gabriel, dwells in their bodies as a spirit, or as what?

If you think Christians who say they have the Holy Spirit are lying and that these do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them, what do you think dwells in them? If it is not a Jinn, then what is it?

Do you think Christians can receive God's spirit and not be at peace with God? Do you think a religion that receive Gabriel or Gabriel's Spirit do not and have not received divine authority? How can God send Gabriel to dwell in a Christian and that doesn't scream divine authority on the religion itself?