₦airaland Forum

Jaytee3333:
I swear this atiku guy no sabi politics rara, na loser him be from beginning the man no sabi calculate at all, decamp to APC support tinubu second term with everything then build connection in APC contest for president , no northern politician that is more popular than him right now in APC ,

The guy na mumu
The arrogance is too much.

Like that,Northern and SW votes are assured in 2031

Keziehenry:
All combo will defeat Tinubu under free and fair election

Politicians optimism and delusions are crazy.

God bless the APC governor of ENUGU STATE.

The guy is by far performing better than Alex otti the overhyped average governor.

But because praising MBAH will not contribuymte anything to their agenda id removing APC/TINUBU they intentionally down play his doings

Even Alex otti doesnt regard peter OBI as one dependable leader.

Peter OBI lacks all hall marks of a good leader of men!


He might be good in petty trading,but not in human leadership.He is very undecisive,cowardly and non-charismatic

Most southsouth states and other Nigerian states are richer than lagos when you divide the state budget by the state population.Bayelsa per capita income alone x3 that of Lagos

The only thing their government need to tell them is that Lagos is like that because it was former capital of Nigeria,as if lagos receives formal capital allowance or derivatives,and indigen of the state will start blaming Lagos,fulanis,Tinubu for their backwardness.
Mind you,just 1/5 of today lagos was the capital of thr country

Kukutente23:
You're beginning to get it but you can't wrap your head round it. Let me give you an example
The FG was owing the CBN N32trn through ways and means. What was the solution? NASS simply collaterized it and it was sold off as bond.
Can you treat foreign debt that way? Local debt especially the one denominated in your local currency is good for you because it is within your sovereign economic rights. But debt denominated in foreign currency generally is the one you should be careful with. You have to pay it to the last kobo with little room for maneuvring except where the lender graciously agrees.
So no one is criticising out of emotions or bitterness. It is you who is defending what you know precious next to nothing about just because you want to defend thieving politicians for crumbs
If not, it will be obvious that comparing US to Nigeria in terms of debt is simply silly

Some level of intelligence is needed to understand the basis of comparison,which you are obviously lacking.
Hating on your country or failure to speak the truth so as not to sound pro-government doesnt equate to intelligence

Na the same set of people that believe "BUHARI WAS WAS CLONE OF JUBRIL OF SUDAN" that is at work here.

They have changed cloak in several forms since 2021 but you people dont know.

They are the one packaging the same man they lambasted severally in 2012 in the thread below as governor as the messiah of the country

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

They are the same set of people that will package fake drugs,fake electronic fake etc for you in several markets in the country.

If they package a failed former governor as messiah for you,you will buy it

DLifeless1:
Because you were caught trying to twist the narrative and economic mess to look minor to your fellow gullible APC supporters.

Even your so called most performing governor ALEX OTTI,...Most celebrated economist SOLUDO and NOI will disagree on you on this your layman and political umderstanding of loans in public finance.

Everything is about APC,ADC,PDP to the Ignoramus

Kukutente23:
It's not about political agenda
You folks need to get properly educated
The US currency is the world's reserve. It replaced gold. What this means is that wealth of nations is determined by how much dollars equivalent they hold in their reserves and sovereign funds
You can see that in the writeup, there's a breakdown of the debt portfolio which shows that more than half of Nigeria's debt is local. Ordinarily this doesn't present a problem for govt except where the local debts are also dollar denominated
The big issue is the foreign component because it will be measured against your reserves. When you devalue your currency, your foreign debt balloons in response while your local debt does not move an inch except again if it's dollar denominated. The US does not have this problem since its debts is 100% in its local currency. I hope you can get the gist now with this simple explanation.

So,debt is not a problem once it is in one currency!.

So if Dangote loan Nigeria government money,its not a DEBT?


You sha want to criticize your country out of emotions and sentiment.

DEBT IS DEBT!...WETHER DOMESTIC OR NOT.

michlins:
America has built a very strong economy and country that other countries are even buying their debt knowing certainly that the economy is strong enough to service the debt.

Meanwhile we lack basic infrastructure that will require us to borrow much more than the current debt to build them.

You people should kindly stop this selective comparison

You lack basic logic

If the creditors didnt see the ability to borrow in you,they will not borrow you.Our debt to gdp ratio has not exceeded normal value.Talk to a public finance expert and get schooled

You dont critize base on emotion,you do with k knowledge

bionixs:
Oga, those countries are enjoying good roads, water, electricity, security, good salary, subsidy


Which do Nigerians enjoy
Answer me as people like you have pleasure in defending rubbish

Was it immediately they borrowed they started enjoying good roads.
America a nation of 249years to a countey of 60yrs

As people like you like to compare rubbish and criticize blindly

Svoboda:
Tell him to allow the so called weaklings contest against him. What is he shitscared of?

Is he holding thier hands?

Peter OBI should be begging fellow weaklings in the structure of criminality to make him candidate before he can start measuring shoulder with THE GREAT PBAT!

Their youth and Igbo youth whose son was DSP for 12years,daughter NOI was MOF for 10yrs,daughter stella oduah was minister of aviation for good 6 years will rather blame TINUBU and fulanis for not having a functioning refinery,functioning international airport and so on and so forth

babajero:
can you please post American minimum wage and the purchasing power let's check something.

Can you post Nigerian and American built military equipments let's check something.

Can you post Nigerian power output and that of America let's check something.

Can you post Nigerian veterans and American veterans let's check something.

Supporting someone doesn't mean you have to sound stupid.

That is the point!
You didnt work enough on this your reply not to sound stupid.

If we could compare all those you listed,why cant we compare debts?
If they are better than us in those aspected you listed,they will definitely have a higher debt!..You can only have a point if Nigeria also has a debt of 31trillion dollars but doing badly compared to US in those aspect you highlighted.

You can hate your country or goverment of your country,but dont submit your brain to do that.

Svoboda:
Just speak for yourself. There's nothing like the turn of the south. If that's the case, Tinubu should surrender his 2nd term bid to the east. If not, it's an all comers affair. Tinubu knows his biggest obstacle to getting a 2027 victory is an Atiku/Obi ticket, and that's why he's using elements like you to dissuade other southerners from supporting such a possibility. APC zoned it's ticket to the south, and not Nigerians.

TINUBU WILL NOT SURRENDER ANYTHING
Contest against him and win,simple

WEAKLINGS!

SuperEagles:
I tot you like democrazy.

Or you want imposition like Tinubu does in Lagos ? You wan make dem impose pando Obi on all ADC members of if it is Obi that is imposed that is not imposition because he is Igbo. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

Those people double standard no be here.
They will be shouting imposition as if peter OBI has ever contested primary election in his life.He has always been imposed!

seunmsg:
lol. That’s not stepping aside. That’s accepting defeat. If you want to step aside, withdraw from the primary and back him. If you contest against him and lose, you’ve not stepped aside. You simply lost. Period!

As in...It is very shameful that I read so many useless posts before getting to see your post.

So,nobody could point out the fault in that Atiku statement before I got to your post?
Are Nigerians that dull?...especially,the obidients celebrating this statement.

Daguccizgreat:
You have no option than to do so Alhaji Atiku. The only way Tinubu will be booted out is if you give way for Peter Obi to be the flag bearer of ADC. It's the turn of the south and that's it. If you choose to bulldoze your way and have the Flag, I assure you that many of us southerners won't vote at all and Tinubu will rig you out

Why are you guys so delusional?

If peter OBI wins,its no longer step aside.

You step aside before the election noy after.

Its like Atiku and OBI saying they step aside for Tinubu after 2023 election.

Kukutente23:
Using USA as a model is a sign of ignorance
USA debt is majorly in US currency and the largest creditors are its own citizens and corporates
Comparing that with Nigeria's situation just shows ignorance

Creditor na creditor
Debt na debt
You are only twisting to align the thread with your own political agenda.
Borrowing from creditor irrespective of who yhe creditor is ,is one of the major source of public finance.
No Nigerian president will not borrow

All these sensationalism to manipulate those peopw that know nothing about public finance.

Name one country that doesnt have a debt

An average American own About $110,000 – $114,000 per person

Trend
2023: ~ $86,000 per person
Helgi Library
2025: ~ $112,000 per person
YCharts
2026: ~ $113,000+ and rising

USA public debt is even higher than the country GDP

The more vibrant your economy the more the creditors are willing to borrow you.Borrowing and loan are not misgovernance.Do you even know how much your celebrated Alex Otti has borrowed from Islamic banks

macpetrus:
Wow!!!... It no longer a news that Tinubu is sleeping and eating on lagos wealth.... I just hope PDP win lagos, Tinubu go sleep for jail till him die!!!.

He is now the president.I am very sure you have another prediction for 2027

ogascomax:
You guys are political ignorant to have believed that Atiku was setting up coalition for Obi.
You guys are really funny sha

You overrate the intelligence of a group of people who en masse believe "BUHARI WAS A CLONE OF JUBRIL OF SUDAN".

No single person,including their elite,came out to condemn the claim.

If you are looking for the most delusional set of people,they are the one.People that believe they are special breed of creature.

jogojogo:
Who defines a transactional primary election? I guess his definition of transactional is when he loses.
Why wont that lazy politician go and form his own party since he is that popular?

You call Atiku divisive and you vomited this rubbish?
If not for Peter Obi, who went to dig boreholes in the north, northerners were drinking water from the gutters,” said Peter Obi’s social media influencer[b][/b]

Atiku is a Unifier-SCAM
Petee OBI is a man of integrity-SCAM

chopnaira:
I watched one were an obidient claimed that it was Obi that gave the Northerners water to drink, and the northerners only drank from water from gutter before obi gave them borehole

I laughed so hard I almost fell off the bed.

It was shorter than this video and was trending on X.

Can you post it?

runningriot:
This is absolutely gibberish and shows Atiku political dynasty and influence is not only dwindling but in comatose if not if truly is a juggernaut as he claimed to be no need for this kind of political kangaroo statement. However, it is glaring the alliance, bromance and rapprochement between Obi and Kwankwaso is sending some political chills to some opponents spine.

Atiku has always been like that.
Good students of Nigeria political history know.
When he was asked if he could get PDP presidential ticket in 2023,he replied by saying "HAVE I EVER FAILED TO GET THE TICKET?".

Atiku always see other politicians apart from himself as small fries since 1999.Infact,he never rated Tinubu untill that one became the president he had been struggling for for years in one shot!

MrJeremy:
How much did he pay to be on the front page. ? NL now very petty

As in News....news like "2 men in crutches rushed to meet peter OBI at ADC convention:

And it hit frontpage,what dow we benefit in news like that,very obviously sponsored

To meet their potential puppet

Galactics:
The judiciary has been a tool to suppress dissenting voices in Nigeria under this current dispensation.

Was it under the current fispensat

CaptainGo:
What should the man in power have done differently for you not to call him "Stupid"?

I'm actually curious.

Tinubu is ripe fruit that receives hits from throws.A CHILD OF MERCY AND GLORY.A SHINNING STAR!

LegendHero:
Omo Atiku no too respect Kwakwanso at all.

He said Kwakwanso is not a heavyweight in the North and he is only an heavyweight in Kano.

He said even that Kano is now split.

ATIKU is just arrogant and full of himself.
He doesnt have the temperament of a politician

He is just lucky to have been the Vice president immediately he entered politics.

Ezechimerenwata:
National Leader of ADC not PETER OBI cos u and I know PO will never make such decision, making DINO MALAYE NATIONAL LEADER.

He is his national leader.
Peter OBI is candidate
Dino is one of his national leaders that will decide his fate.
KISS THE TRUTH